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hauser
hauser Member Posts: 3
edited December 2018 in Not Diagnosed But Worried

My wife went in for the first mamagram and showed a small Mass but she has been seeing an eyedologist that can cure anything. So long story short she won't go for a biopsy because she thinks erbs and oils and acupuncture will make it go away. I was an EMT so I have a different outlook on things, she thinks a biopsy will make it pop like a water balloon and spread. Looking for help on how to get her in to diagnose.

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  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited December 2018

    Eh, that small mass could be anything. How small is small? Did her radiologist believe that it was highly suspicious for cancer (Birads 5)? About 80% of mammogram findings turn out to be benign when biopsied. Your wife went for one mammogram. Could you convince her to get another one in 4 - 6 months? That way, the doctors could keep an eye on the mass. If it gets bigger, that may convince her that her alternative medicine isn't working.

  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2018

    hauser,

    First, breast biopsies are highly unlikely to cause a tumor spread--I asked multiple surgeons plus looked it up in the medical literature.

    Second, if the two of you are not convinced the mammogram shows a need for biopsy, I suggest having the films shown to a breast radiology specialist, the sooner the better.

    Third, oils and positive thinking etc. can be helpful to her in dealing with the anxiety of the situation. To understand and properly deal with that mass, she needs MD specialists.

    Also, I hope she appreciates what you are doing for her.

    Any more questions, just ask, and let us know how things go. Best wishes.


  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited December 2018

    If she doesn’t have a biopsy, how will any practitioner, conventional or alternative, know what they are treating. The majority of biopsies turn out to be negative for cancer, so you certainly wouldn’t want her to be treated for a disease she doesn’t have even if the treatment is herbal.

  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited December 2018

    This is so hard. The mental/emotional element of health is huge. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, I imagine it's extremely frustrating and scary.

    First, yes, there's a good chance it's not anything dangerous. So everything could be fine. Hold on to that if you really can't get her to follow up further.

    But, yeah, there's also a chance it's cancer or something else alarming and would really benefit from informed medical intervention.

    I wonder, are you in a place where that kind of intervention is feasible? Ie, does she have good health insurance and job security if she needs to take medical leave? If not, see if you can work on getting those things in place.

    I think one option might be to see if you can find a naturopathic doctor (that she would feel inclined to have confidence in) who has a positive relationship with allopathic medicine and could be in a better position than you are to encourage her to also seek conventional diagnosis and reassure her about the processes.

    Do you have children? I think that might be a fair point to raise with her too - that her health choices stand to impact not only her and you but also the kids. Maybe that could help push her to at least seek a medical second opinion. Maybe there are options other than, or at least before, a biopsy that she might consider. Like if you could get her under a sonogram or MRI that showed something risky, maybe she'd be more inclined to accept the biopsy. (And of course, maybe it will alleviate concerns).

    Finally, and whether you have children or not, I think it's worth thinking about counseling for your and possibly for both of you. Even if this is (and hopefully it is) benign, medical problems and health scares are kind of inevitable in a long life. The denial approach can seriously impact marital relationship and quality of life. Without pressuring her into any particular medical procedures (and a biopsy is an invasive medical procedure, even if they're very safe and routine) I think it's very fair to say that as long as you are together, her health and your health are connected, and to see whether you can get to a place where youf feel like a confident team.

  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2018

    Getting the mammogram interpreted by a breast radiology specialist is the one best way to reduce chance of unnecessary or premature biopsy and/ or rx additional appropriate imaging tests. if such specialist confirms need for biopsy now, s/he will help convince your wife by pointing at the film and showing the specific features of concern based on experience, and explaining the risks of dilly-dallying.

    Of couse it's her body and only she gets to decide, and anyhow I sure hope it's a false alarm!

    I think you are on target by offering gentle fact based support and not reinforcing her magical thinking. She needs to be supported in her strengths rather than in her weaknesses--like all of us.

  • djmammo
    djmammo Member Posts: 2,939
    edited December 2018

    hauser

    "...an eyedologist that can cure anything"

    Does this person have a web site? Can you post the link?

  • hauser
    hauser Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2018

    Thanks to you all for the advice ,very helpful. And I do agree on the biopsy to find out whether it is or isn't. And to treat or not. And she might be hiding the fear of it all.She is more of an optimist I am more of a realist.having this happen during the holidays is pretty hard but we'll keep it happy and fun thanks again and Merry Christmas.

  • hauser
    hauser Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2018

    I'm I'm sorry if that came out wrong but I was being sarcastic sorry.

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