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  • Micahmom
    Micahmom Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2018

    I’m nervous about starting radiation treatments I know I’ll be fine but I’m so low on energy now how much energy will radiation take from m

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited July 2018

    Hi Micahmom,

    I had very little enegry problems with my rads. I ate high protein snacks several times a day- peanut butter, nuts, cheese, ( my chlotesteral is probably too high nowLOL)

    and walked daily. I walked at least 1-11/2 miles . I also ate lots of chicken and fish and lean beef for my meals which I do anyway. I also followed the skin care suggestions ,using pure aloe gel ( fruit of the earth) 8$ on Amazon . Good luck .

  • kaywrite
    kaywrite Member Posts: 219
    edited July 2018

    Hi everyone - I'm still getting email notifications for this topic, and happy to see people still posting. I suppose we are here less now that we are mostly, hopefully, post-BC.

    Micahmom - I'm with flowergal - no energy side effects from radiation, or many post-rads side effects. I am 2 months out from completing radiation therapy, and the only thing I wish I'd known more about is post-rads Physical Therapy and/or massage to help with scar tissue build-up or seromas. Put that on your list!

    People react differently to rads - I'd recommend just giving yourself a head start with diet and exercise. Keep limber and stretch - especially the affected breast/arm area (with doctors consent, of course).

    Good luck - it will fly by!

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited July 2018

    Hi .

    I agree with Kaywrite to be alert for swelling and sclerotic (hard) tissue that can hinder lymph flow. I ended up with breast lymphedema and the PT specialist has done a lot with massage and teaching me manual massage (sweep technique ) to do at home .I have read that it is hard to diagnose this since surgery and radiation can cause swelling, but mine never diminished and the breast stayed warm to touch. Luckily, my MO's NP dx and we caught it early. It is already much better .

    PS Greeek yogurt is also high protein which I ate with fresh blueberries or strawberries in it and still do!

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited July 2018

    Micahmom, Ditto flowergal and kaywrite. I literally had no skin problems with rads--followed the R0's directions re showering with an unscented, mild soap (I used Dove), warm not hot water, pat dry, and use moisturizer (I used Aloe gel from Wal-Mart after a treatment because it was less messy on my hands for driving home and Aquaphor 3 to 4 times a day. Had a good piece of advice from a staff member to wash any of that off before a treatment so it doesn't act like the baby oil some used to use to get a suntan).

    Also, since BC surgery I pay more attention to my diet with emphasis on protein (no beef, pork, or processed meats), vegetables and fruits. In addition I am doing better at exercising--for now just walking. I found during radiation that when I felt most "draggy" was when I really needed to get up and walk around--thought I was going to wear a groove in the floors but they have survived intact!😊

    You asked about a bone density test. That may be to help with decisions re hormone blockers. For example, I am well past menopause and based on that would likely take an AI. However, I was diagnosed with osteopenia over ten years ago and, since AIs have a reputation of leeching bone, I am on Tamoxifen even though the general rule of thumb is that Tamoxifen is used with premenopausal women.

    Good luck with your upcoming treatments. Feel free to ask questions here--lots of information and opinions available! This entire site has been very helpful for me.

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited July 2018

    Micahmom, and stay well hydrated, at least two liters of liquids a day. Sorry, forgot that point in my previous post. It likely seems overwhelming at the moment, try to take it one day at a time at least until you feel like you have a handle on things.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited November 2018

    Hi All,

    I had my 6 month check up with the RO today. Examined me and was pleased with how my skin looked. He said that there was no scarring in the lungs according to the results of the PET CT scan I had today. PET CT (was a follow up from melanoma surgery) Also, that the breast MRI didn't show inflammation in the breast. I asked about why my radiated breast seems larger than it was before biopsy, surgery, and radiation. RO said it could just be some swelling way at the bottom and will probably disappear and some could be from the bruises I had from the bike accident when my shoulders were fractured. He doesn't think I have arm or breast lymphedema which is good news. I do have the compression garments if I need them.The RO is one of the best providers I've had, very attentive and personable. However, I said good-bye as I don't need him anymore. I can call if there's any problems but he doesn't anticipate any.

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2018

    Hi Veeder,

    What great news! When will you have a mammogram? I know you had to postpone it because of the accident. So glad you are on the mend!

  • kaywrite
    kaywrite Member Posts: 219
    edited November 2018

    Hi Veeder - that's great news! I'm so glad to hear you are on the mend after being interrupted by the bike accident. Things are well here. Happy holidays to all. Keep us updated, I'm still reading you. xoxoxox

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited November 2018

    Veeder, so glad the news was good! My RO and I parted ways after the three month checkup. He was good but in the best of all worlds may none of us need to see an RO again!

    Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to all. Many of us are approaching our first anniversary of BC diagnosis-- congratulations to all for making it this far. May our news continue to be good.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited November 2018

    Happy Holidays and one year anniversary to everyone, so glad we're keeping in touch. flowergal,

    I'm scheduled for a mammogram on Tuesday and have surgery Thursday. After waking up this morning with very sore shoulders and neck from being in the PET CT scanner yesterday I'm still thinking about putting it off until after surgery. I had the breast MRI a few weeks ago and both sides were checked and no malignancies.

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2018

    Veeder,

    Good luck with your surgery and hope you have a good family to pamper you post op!!

    Beaverrn and Kaywrite,

    Good to see your posts and hope you are doing well. I have a6 month F?u with MO and lab in 2 weeks so hope all will continue to be good.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2018

    Thanks flowergal, yes, bright and early (arrive at hospital 5:15 am, leave house 3am, get up at 2 am) on Thursday. On second thought I think I'll just stay up all night! Just wishing I could somehow get around having surgery so soon. Not wanting to do this, ugh.

    Finally had my post op mammogram today. I really wanted to put it off until after surgery when I could take pain medication and get to PT. But until 12/31 insurance pays 100%. I didn't realize that I would be getting more than 2 pictures per side. A mammogram clinic doctor looked at those pictures and also did an ultrasound, then wanted 3 more pictures on the affected side. Ouch, pictures taken with a different kind of clear plastic thing that squishes you. Did anyone else have "extra" pictures taken for their first post op mammogram? The doctor said that she needed all of those images to see what my "different" breast looked like after surgery and radiation for reference for next year. She also said that she could see the scar tissue but wondered if all of the area was just that and suggested an MRI to be sure. Guess what? I had my breast MRI last month and it was clear, so I'm good to go.

    Also, had that darn seroma in my arm pit drained again today. It's so small but it hurts when filled with fluid. We'll see if it fills up again or not. Hope not.

    Went to Orthopedics today for xrays. Good news, my left shoulder is completely healed. The right one is stable but the bones won't be joining.


  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2018

    Hi Veeder, "Good luck tomorrow. My first PO mammo was also lots of pictures with the plastic thing. I think it isa 3D image. I also had an ultrasound and got panicky when they called me back for it after the mammo, thinking something was wrong. But the tech said this was the normal procedure from now on and all was OK! My Breast did swell some ( Lymphedema related ) afterwards, but got back to baseline in a week or so.

    Give us an update when you are feeling up to it. ! Take care and glad the shoulders are stable.

  • JosieO
    JosieO Member Posts: 314
    edited December 2018

    Veeder and Flowergal,

    Veeder, I am sorry that I somehow missed your recent posts, but was very glad that our buddy Flowergal stayed with you and gave you support.

    Excellent news on your mammogram! Just so happy that you were clear, and that the MRI just before that was also clear. It seems like a dream, to think of all you have been through. But happy to know you are moving forward healthy,

    And that pesky seroma-comments on that in a minute. But keep working on it.

    Flowergal, you are a faithful friend. So glad you hung in there to give support to Veeder when these important dates were coming up. And of course I am very happy for your own good news. As you are our lymphadema touchstone, I was glad for you that no ill effects came back on a permanent basis. Because of you, I am very aware and watch myself.

    As for me, I also had my own first post surgery and treatment mammogram. Mine was also a 3D, and just like Veeder, my seroma was very visible. Got flagged for an ultrasound, and that was their conclusion as well, so going to take it up with my surgeon, see if he will aspirate it. (I think he was holding off, hoping it would dissolve, but I am a bit fearful that it will harden to scar tissue in my axcilla and become painful. But no malignant tissue otherwise

    As we approach the end of Hanukkah, the Christmas holiday, and the New Year, I will be back to wish all of you, including other buddies Beaverntx, Star17, and this wonderful supportive group. Until then, giving all of you a big, but gentle virtual hug.

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2018

    Josie, good to hear from you. Also glad your news was good as well! Sounds like seromas are the norm! My surgeon said it would just come back if he aspirated and it is not painful and not too big so I gently massage it now and then and stopped worrying about it.

    Veeder,

    Hope you are recuperating and doing Ok

    Hugs to all who all look at this thread and hope you all have a great holiday and a HAPPY HEALTHY!!!!! New Year!

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2018

    Thanks Josie0 and flowergal and everyone~Today is day 4 post surgery. I'm up walking around and the weather is cooperating so taking short walks outside in the sun. Stomach cramps woke me up this morning however it was good news as my bowels are working normal again. The surgeon didn't find any suspicious areas to biopsy while I was on the table but of course everything was sent to Pathology. My biggest problem though is pain as my throat and stomach were diagnosed with irritation about a week ago from a PET/CT scan. So I was given pain medications via IV while in the hospital which mostly avoided my stomach but I don't dare swallow any pills. I'm on PPI medication but after 4 months of swallowing Tamoxifen my throat/stomach are really messed up. The throat is also real irritated from the breathing tube and I keep coughing. So, I really need some pain relief especially for my back, neck, and shoulders but am using heat/ice, and topical pain cream instead.

    Happy Holidays to everyone!

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2018

    So glad to hear from you Veeder,

    Hope you continue to improve and have less pain and soreness. Get Well Soon!!!

  • JosieO
    JosieO Member Posts: 314
    edited December 2018

    Veeder,

    You are a trouper to hang in there despite this most recent round of challenges.

    Just a thought-is there any type of pain management specialist who might have some other ideas on how you might receive pain medication and still bypass the throat and digestive system? I think you are being patient with the tools that you have, but I wish there was more.

    Keeping prayers rising for you that things continue to improve.

    Flowergal,

    Somehow I had forgotten that you also have a seroma. I suppose we three could call ourself the Seroma Sisters, but it might be another “one hit wonder” (just like The Knack). Guess we’ll just carry on. Grateful there areno “bad cells” hiding in there-that was my subconscious fear.

    Someone please remind me how to get “automatic” posts to this thread-then I can get better at keeping track of all of you dear friends here.

    Good health to all.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2018

    Hi,

    JosieO, yeah thanks. Since I started this topic thread I automatically get all the responses. I'm not sure how everyone joining would get automatic notifications. I got IV Toradol in pre-op and it supposedly doesn't go through the stomach even though there's a warning listed. I can usually handle it as long as I don't get it too often, take PPI meds, and stay sitting up. The surgeon ordered it every 6 hours for 24 hours however I declined until I was leaving the hospital because I knew my stomach would really be irritated. I can get a referral to pain management although I've been there before and had to figure out what to do on my own, they were no help. I wish I could take something that worked and didn't bother me. Once my throat and stomach heal it will be better but then there's the Tamoxifen that started this most recent problem.

    The day before I got the seroma in my arm pit drained again. It doesn't feel quite as big but it's hard to tell. I think I'll take a break from the draining and see how much it bothers me.

    Has anyone started on the ALs that already had osteoporosis? The MO writes me an email that since I can't tolerate the Tamoxifen she wants to start me on one of the ALs. Seems like nonsense to me, I already have severe osteoporosis.

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2018

    Hi Veeder and Josie,

    Josie- I added this thread to "my favorites" and I get an email notification when someone posts.

    Veeder,

    I take anastrazole but only have osteopenia. When first discussing this med. and asking about osteoporosis, he said if it progressed to that he would just put me on meds. for osteoporosis and didn't seen too concerned. Of course, it's not his bones ! Are you taking one of the meds to combat osteoporosis already? I hope you feel better soon.

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2018

    ok,favorites, good to know. Took osteoporosis meds for 5 or so years, more than 10 years ago.Very slow improvement even without being on a med that depletes the bones at the same time. So no ALS for me, it’s Tamoxifen and only if the stomach issue can be solved

  • kaywrite
    kaywrite Member Posts: 219
    edited December 2018

    HI everyone - silently following this all. Good to hear from all of you. Veeder, glad to hear you are back on track after the set backs.

    I know this is rads thread, but I doubt anyone else is reading this, and it relates to what we are talking about nine months after meeting! Here goes: I was diagnosed with osteopenia at the same time I had the suspicious mammogram last year. Fast forward 12 months and my MO took me off anastrozole for a month, then onTamoxifen - why? Because I had a pretty bad dryness reaction vaginally.

    I understood the SEs of both (i.e. potential for osteoporosis on one, cervical or uterine cancer on the other). Well, I had a baseline uterine ultrasound last month, which my GYN wanted to do considering I had started Tamoxifen. The ultrasound was not normal. I had fluid in my uterus, which is not good. She did a cervical biopsy immediately and my cervix was SEALED SHUT about an inch in. She tried dilating it, but eventually had to just force the instrument in - big pop and she was inside. She got what she needed, I was terrified for a few days, and the results were benign fluid.

    I spoke with my MO just after this. She still felt that there was really no difference between estrogen blockers for me. She felt the cervical atrophy was due to the blockers, period, and the only reason any fluid filled the uterine cavity was because it could not get out. Even so, I switched back to anastrozole. I rationalized that I'd rather worry about osteoporosis than cervical cancer. She didn't argue.

    FWIW. Happy new year to everyone - wishing us all a MUCH less terrifying year than the one we've just had. On the upside - it was a good lesson in gratitude.

    PS - on the subject of gratitude, I published my first novel! You can go to my name dot com - i.e. Kay Spencer to read the first literary review, along with some other articles about the process and breast cancer. If you are on a phone, you can use the radio button to go to the HOME page and look around. I'm on Amazon, Apple, and B&N, too. If it's your genre, I hope you read it. It's full of love and loss and grief and how wherever the road takes us, we are always traveling with everything we need.



  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited December 2018

    Hi, all.

    Because we have moved beyond rads I've started a thread titled Diagnosed/treated 2018 -- Sharing our "what's next" in the forum Share Your Experiences of Life After a Breast Cancer Diagnosis.

    FYI, when you have selected a thread as a favorite, log on to the community and click on the menu tab, you can choose from the list of menus, including the one for favorites. This will show your list and indicate which ones have new posts. On that list you can mark a thread to have email notification. I have only requested email notification for private messages since for me it easier to just check the menu, but to each his own!😊and

    Happy holidays to all.

  • flowergal
    flowergal Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2018

    Kaywrite,

    Congrats on the book ! I will definitely look it up .

    Veeder - good luck with the tamox. Hope the stomach settles down.

    Beaverrn what is name of your thread?

    I like keeping in touch with you guys.

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited December 2018

    The name is Diagnosed/treated 2018 -- Sharing our "what's next".

  • JosieO
    JosieO Member Posts: 314
    edited December 2018

    Comments back:

    Thanks to all for the suggestion on adding to Favorites. I’d very much like to stay in touch with all of you-you were such a help over this last year.

    Kaywrite - yes, congrats on the book. I’m also going to check it out, and best wishes for it’s success.

    Beaverntx - that was thoughtful to start a new thread. Going to follow it and hopefully get my favorites set up to follow it as well.

    AIs and osteopenia/osteoporosis- my medical oncologist did not change me from Arimidex even after my bone density test showed osteopenia. I know he initially did not want to prescribe tamoxifen, and I think he is going to give me one of the bone builders in the spring. Meanwhile, I continue with calcium and Vitamin D3, weights and weight bearing exercise. No side effects from the Arimidex otherwise, so I guess I’ll keep going.

    Hang in there, everyone

  • Veeder14
    Veeder14 Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2018

    Beaverntx,

    Thanks for starting a new thread. What major category is the new post under- Radiation or hormonal Therapy or another one?

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited December 2018

    FYI

    The forum is Share Your Experiences Of Life After A Breast Cancer Diagnosis.

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