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sweetolyve
sweetolyve Member Posts: 15

Hello ladies,

I've been reading several of the posts on this forum and have seen several similar to my own. In August I was diagnosed with BC, the tests came back at triple negative. The lump in my right breast was at 1 cm and considered the aggressive type of cancer. Although the ten lymph nodes removed had no evidence of cancer in them (thank God!). And the multiple lumps in my left breast showed no evidence of cancer, either. I did try Googling, but it was so scary I avoided looking at anything online.

My surgeon recommended a modified radical double mastectomy and so I went with that. I chose not to do the reconstruction due to the fact that I'm post-menopausal and I just don't feel the need to keep them. At my first meeting with the oncologist I was shocked to hear him recommend four months of strong chemotherapy - A, C, followed by T. My problem is this: my sweet husband and I are raising our two granddaughters who are teens and I get to watch my one year old grandson every day. He is the sweetest, most lovable little guy, too. Needless to say this cancer has been a real surprise and I don't really want to give up watching him.

The other thing is my husband believes that my immune system will be so suppressed that I will have to stay secluded in our bedroom except for doc visits. Next week I will be having a consultation for the chest port, then the next day a PET scan. Two days after that I will be having a MUGA scan. And after that, another meeting with the oncologist. I feel like I have been put into a catapult and am waiting to be flung out into midair.

I would love to hear from others about what you experienced and how much chemo has affected your day-to-day life. Any advice is greatly appreciated, too.

Thanks so much!

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  • Wink22
    Wink22 Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2018

    Sorry that you have to have chemo, sweetolyve. It is a challenging time, and feels very scary at the beginning. I had TAC chemo every three weeks for 6 rounds. For 3 days of each cycle I found that I needed help with the kids...had a lot of fatigue and achiness and just felt like I had no energy. After those days I felt reasonably good again. Taking care of a one year old takes a lot of energy, but there will hopefully be lots of days that you feel quite well. There’s a lot of medications now that help reduce side effects. As far as germs go, it’s hard to know how your system will react to chemo. I stayed quite well even with young children, but did make a point of avoiding sick people and my family’s hand hygeine became exceptional! Good luck to you x

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited November 2018

    I taught full time during chemo, and would have gone crazy if I had stayed home doing nothing! I had Neulasta shots so didn't really worry about germs, although I washed my hands a lot. I did bow out from commitments that I wasn't really passionate about, hired a cleaning lady, had friends who volunteered to bring meals a couple times a week, and we ordered out a lot (cooking, handling food etc. made me feel queasy). I had a teenage son at home and wanted to keep things normal for him too. I went to his school activities (sometimes skipping out after his events at track meets, or after his band performed at a concert, something I'd never do otherwise), and we did more movie watching or me watching him play video games and other quiet activities then we would have done otherwise. If your little guy isn't a demanding baby, it will probably be fine. Usually a person feels pretty crappy for a couple days after chemo and then starts to feel better and better. Maybe have a backup plan for those days in case you aren't up to babysitting those days. Something to know is that light exercise will actually make you feel better during chemo, so kid watching is a great way to get some of that movement in. So, my advice is to plan to live your life as normally as possible, and then cut back when/if you need to. Hang in there!

  • beach5
    beach5 Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2018

    Sorry about the plan for chemo, I've learned everyone is different, but it does go by quickly.  I worked full time through AC+T, traveled for work to Thailand, China, and Europe throughout.  Neulasta was a must for me, I tried one round without and counts dropped, and I carried hand sanitizer with me everywhere.  Definitely had some bad days, and had to pace myself more than usual.  But even got a trip in to Mexico for my mothers 80th birthday party with family and kids, and went cave diving!  I did chemo on Fridays and planned downtime on the weekends.  For me, staying busy and some sort of normal was important, but exercising got lost in the mix.  Good luck, and hang in there!

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited November 2018

    I remember that feeling of being thrown from one doc to another and the very steep learning curve. It always feels like you're behind!

    Chemo is scary but doable. Your providers should be able to give you a sense of which days would likely be the hardest. I had chemo on Wednesdays and felt the worst over the weekends - when my kids were off from school and my husband was around to help.

    As far as your immune system goes - good hand washing and avoiding sick people goes a long way. The biggest concern with really low counts is your body's ability to deal with bacteria within the body - your intestinal load. Your MO will be watching your blood counts closely.

  • Icietla
    Icietla Member Posts: 1,265
    edited November 2018

    Icietla's Husband types this for Icietla:

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    Welcome, sweetolyve. I am very sorry about your diagnosis and your anxiety about your upcoming Chemotherapy treatments.

    I have just this week had my fourth Chemo treatment for a very aggressive metastasized cancer. By the time of my third treatment, I was anemic, and I still am anemic.

    As some background, since long before my cancer treatment began, I have had peripheral neuropathy and numerous other permanent neurological complications from a lifelong mystery illness that went undiagnosed and untreated until I had full-blown anemia of one of the more unusual types, and I could hardly walk and had great difficulties in communicating in language. While I have had much (gradual) improvement (from the worst of it) -- except for more weakening over time -- over these I think ten years of intensive treatment for what was finally diagnosed as an autoimmunity, all my abilities are variable but still only quite limited.

    My peripheral neuropathy has been steadily advancing with my Chemo treatments. Now I am in need of even more assistance. As for after-effects, each of my successive Chemo treatments has been a bit harder on me, and following each successive Chemo treatment, it has taken me a bit longer (two to three days longer) to get to starting to feeling better after the (longer) time of feeling more unwell from the Chemo after-effects.

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    If you are taking any anti-oxidant type supplements, even ordinary multi-vitamin supplements, I suggest you run them by your Oncologist for his express approval or disapproval. If you are using any, you do not need to wait for your next Oncologist appointment to have your questions answered about your use of them. You can leave for your Oncologist's attention a specific list of any supplement products you are using, as well as your request for prompt advice relating thereto by phone, at the Reception Desk of the Oncology Clinic. Also ask for advice as to any particular foods to be avoided. Also ask about berry consumption, in particular.

    BCO member ChiSandy seems to be very knowledgeable about this stuff, as well as dietary advice for hormonally-driven breast cancers. You might like to use the Search Feature over on the left side margin to look for ChiSandy's posts relating to anti-oxidants or antioxidants in connection with Chemotherapy and/or Radiation Treatment.

    In our Triple Negative Breast Cancer discussion topics section, you may find some leads on dietary practices thought (or speculated) to be more favorable for TNBC patients. I have posted on one dietary theory lead in there, in the TNBC section. I expect you could find it with the Search Feature over there on the left.

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    ***** For what it is worth, my safety/wellness advice for members in anticipation of Chemotherapy has been rather unpopular on this Board. *****

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    If you become ill with any communicable/contagious illness, including but not limited to any respiratory illness at all suspicious for being contagious, your Chemo treatments may not proceed according to the ideal (or optimal) schedule. If you become afflicted with any such illness, you (and/or any other sick person who accompanies you to the Oncology Clinic) can fairly expect to be persona non grata there until you (and/or your sick companion) have full recovery therefrom.

    You can fairly expect to be immunocompromised throughout the entire course of your Chemotherapy, and even for months -- perhaps six or even more months -- beyond the conclusion of your Chemotherapy.

    I recommend that you post a DO NOT DISTURB sign at your front door.

    I recommend that you get a good supply of clinical type protective masks ASAP, as well as clinical type protective gloves, for you and your household members to keep handy and to wear at any (all) times any of you are out and about wherever you may be in contact with (or even in nearish proximity to) any others, as well as for use by you and your household members during any (necessary) visits of guests to your home, who should also take these simple measures for your protection.

    Another benefit of your and your household members' always wearing such protective gear in public places -- besides pretty good protection for you and them from contagious disease -- is that many other (thinking) persons out there will keep themselves a bit more distant than they otherwise might, giving you all more "personal space," thus even better safety.

    Individually foil- or plastic-wrapped disinfectant towelettes, such as Wet Ones or Kleenex Wet Wipes, are also good to keep handy in your automobiles; pockets of household members; for use of any guests on arrival; and around your household. Keep plenty of facial tissues around and handy, too. As your nostrils lose their hair, your nose may tend to run. Depending on your particular Chemo recipe/s, you may have more nose-running, perhaps with some blood-tinged issue, perhaps even nosebleeds.

    I recommend that you strongly discourage or refuse to receive any unnecessary visitors to your home.

    Invited persons (of whose health status and their household members' and other contacts' health status you have made yourselves fairly confident -- you should also do your best to find out whether they or any of their household members or other contacts have fairly recently had any live-virus component vaccinations -- those could seriously endanger your health) will know that they are welcome to visit (on the particular occasion/s of their invitation) despite your DO NOT DISTURB sign. On arrival, they should readily mask their faces and clean or glove their hands.

    I recommend that you get some diapers before you may need them -- for your present size and also some for the next smaller size available, in case you should get to needing them. Best to have them before your first Chemo treatment. You will learn from your own after-effects cycling/patterns when you are more likely to need them. I strongly recommend that you purchase them only with cash, unless you would not mind a very shortly following steady stream of spam from from diaper suppliers. You will most likely be doing some juggling of sorts among various stool softeners, laxatives, and anti-diarrheal products in efforts to prevent bowel obstruction and otherwise regulate your gut functions.

    Would your teenage granddaughters be amenable to finishing out at least the remaining present school year by home schooling and visiting with their friends (and most other contacts) by telephone?

    I will not remark or advise on your wishes to continue with your daily babysitting activities. I urge you to seek your Oncologist's advice as to continuing with your babysitting routine.

    For the most knowledgeable and expert Medical Advice and practical advice on getting through your planned Chemotherapy course, please consult with your Oncologist and Care Team at your Oncology Clinic.

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    We are conscientious and consistent in our practices with all these protective devices/accessories I have recommended for you, your household members, and any (necessary) visitors to your home. Headcoverings can also help to protect you all from spread of contagious disease. These practices have apparently got us some special considerations and accommodations from some Health Care Facilities, Providers, and their other Personnel.

    I live with my Husband and our Baby, an indoor-only special needs cat. Since our Baby was a neonate, he has had Veterinary attention around twice a month, on average. Since my more recent cancer diagnosis, unless our Baby clearly requires hospitalization, as for Hospital-only procedures, his Doctors make house calls to see about him and his well-being. They arrive in clean clothing, and on arrival, they readily deposit their cell-phones into a metal enclosure so as not to be disturbed/distracted into handling them -- and those (possibly-to-likely present) pathogens from their cell-phones having been everywhere else with them -- during their house calls here. They also readily mask their faces and disinfect their hands on arrival.

    On the day I was having my port installed at a larger Hospital in our region -- the day just prior to my initial Chemo session nearer our home -- a woman doing uncovered coughing passed through the patient waiting room where we were. The Desk Personnel there immediately made an interoffice call to report that there were two obviously immunocompromised persons in that particular waiting room, and requested that the coughing woman be immediately isolated to an (otherwise unoccupied) observation room and directed to mask herself and stay in there until she was to be seen by a Health Care Provider.

    We (human) household members make our non-urgent Primary Care appointments for the times likeliest to be slowest in terms of patient traffic. When there are present other patients known or apparently sick (with anything suspicious of being contagious type illness) in the waiting area, or when any such patients arrive there, we are immediately called by the Desk Personnel for removal to an Exam Room to get us out of the presence of any others known or suspected to present risk of contagious illness.

    We live in a little country town where there are presently known to be at least three serious epidemic illnesses in circulation, so often spread, as usual, by the usual inconsiderate persons in and around our community.

    On the other hand, some people are very kind and thoughtful of others. You will find here on BCO very many kind, caring, thoughtful members. We are truly a Community of Brothers and Sisters who want to support you and your Caregiver/s through your breast cancer experience.

    Since my autoimmune illness went so far acute some ten and a half years ago, I was under Medical Advice to generally keep my feet elevated and to keep off them as much as practicable, so as to help limit fluid pressure on nerve bundles in my feet, as well as for personal safety reasons.

    Since my more recent cancer diagnosis, though, I have been getting myself up and moving about a good bit more frequently, and always with my mobility appliances well-suited for use with my other disabling conditions. Among other factors, my prospects for any continuing treatment/s (of hoped-for possibly therapeutic type/s rather than supportive care type) depend on my maintaining my mobility (ambulation) and not having any seriously injurious mishaps.

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    Keep mindful that having cancer puts one at increased risk for abnormal blood clotting tendency. For some more information on this, use the Search Feature over on the left side. For the best information on how best to manage the increased risk for abnormal blood clotting, consult with your Oncologist.

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    If you have not already done so, I also suggest that you take some time to look at some length through our Lymphedema discussion topics section, where you can learn much about reducing your (lifelong) risks for Lymphedema, as well as much about management of Lymphedema.

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    (((Hugs)))





  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    I think what your husband is picturing is the isolation that cancer patients undergo due to certain types of radiation, which are not usually the type associated with breast cancer.

    It is possible that your white blood cell counts will take a hit with the AC in particular. But they'll likely offer you neulasta or something else to boost them. They'll monitor you closely and you'll let them know if you're feeling unwell or feverish or something. You’ll take extra precautions avoiding sick people and bad germs It's possible you'll be hospitalized (I was once bc of a fever). I had very little nausea, but a lot of fatigue. I did look after my baby, but I had help and he was a newborn when I had chemo. a 1yo is a lot of physical work and there will be some days (or many days) that it's just going to be too much. I think there need to be back up plans for your grandson. I don't think you can expect yourself to be in charge of him on the same routine. Wait and see how you respond to the meds.


    Best wishes to you.

  • sweetolyve
    sweetolyve Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2018

    Hello Ladies,

    Thank you all for reading and answering my initial quesions. You have really put my mind at ease tremendously. Yesterday I had my first ever PET scan and the hardest part of that was sitting still for an hour. I am ADHD...lol and that was sheer torture. This Friday coming up I will meet with the oncologist again for my list of proposed meds, schedule, and whatever else he may suggest. I will be having a port put in on December 4 as well as some re-secting to remove excess fatty tissue that would otherwise be used for reconstructive surgery. I told my surgeon that due to those lumps under my arms I've been walking around like an old Western gunslinger...lol.

    Please keep my family in your prayers since we just lost soneone near and dear to brain cancer earlier this year. They're not saying it, but I know they're afraid the same thing is going to happen to me. Although I know that this is a type of cancer that is survivable. Has anyone ever made their old cold cap? The Navigator who was assigned to my case told me yesterday that the hospital where one of her patients received treatment didn't offer the use or rental of one of those. So, she made her own and that was almost a year ago. She still has all her hair.

    Again, thank you to all who read my questions and took the time to respond. You are all phenomenal women and I truly appreciate you.

    Sincerely,

    Debbie...(O:

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