Vitamins for osteoporosis

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zohra
zohra Member Posts: 197
edited November 2018 in Bone Health and Bone Loss

Hi ,

What are good vitamins for osteoporosis?

My mom is taking Armedix and for arthritis she is taking prednisone, Leflunomide.

I just got for her Calcium 1000 mg , magnesium 500 mg K2 100 mcg and Vitamin D 3 5000 mg.

Is there any other vitamins that she has to take?

I am trying she can get calcium from foods but still I want she take calcium supplements as well.

Any recommendation for any other vitamin which is good for osteoporosis?

How much K2 is important ?

Thanks for always being helpful.




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  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited May 2018

    I have OP also. My bone density report showed recommendations on how much calcium and Vit D to take. I would suggest she get her Vit D level checked, if she has not already. I am not aware of any other OTC supplements, but will follow the thread, bc I am curious, too! FYI, Arimidex may cause more bone loss...I took Tamoxifen instead of an AI for that reason. Best wishes to you and your Mom.

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  • Icietla
    Icietla Member Posts: 1,265
    edited May 2018

    Hi Zohra. I am so sorry for what is going on with your Mom. I hope you can get her to feeling much better.

    I am also on an aromatase inhibitor, Letrozole. There have been long times when it has caused aching and stiffness along my thigh and hip area on one side. I also have arthritis in my lumbar spine, found from imaging after a bad fall several years ago. It has not given me trouble yet.

    Because I am on an aromatase inhibitor, my Oncologist requires a daily minimum of 1200 mg. Calcium and also a daily minimum of 800 i.u. Vitamin D. I had already been taking that much for some fifteen years before my cancer diagnosis. Since my Letrozole treatment started, I have been taking daily either three tablets of 500 mg. Calcium combined with 400 i.u. Vitamin D or three tablets of 600 mg. Calcium combined with 800 i.u. Vitamin D, besides what is in my daily Multivitamin with Iron.

    If I recall correctly, somewhere on BCO I have read that Calcium supplements should not be taken with tea.

    Osteopenia was diagnosed from my recent Dexa Scan, and I was then started on Prolia, an injection to be administered every six months. [The same medicine that is known as Prolia can be administered as a monthly injection regimen known as Xgeva. It is a painless subcutaneous injection.] I have since been taking three times daily the 600 mg. Calcium combined with 800 i.u. Vitamin D, besides what is in my daily Multivitamin with Iron. I also let sunshine fall on my feet for a little time every sunny day, in hopes of getting more Vitamin D that way.

    I have also been eating Brussels sprouts and spinach more often since. I get fresh spinach, pull off the stems and central leaf veins, and add the leafy parts to vegetable soups. I know we need Vitamin K for our bone health, but I do not know how much is adequate for our bone health purposes, and I am dreadful of having too much of it because cancer patients have increased risk for abnormal blood clotting.

    Is your Mom using any mobility aids/appliances for her safety -- to help prevent falls? Even for more active persons who can get to hurting too much from activity, there is another possible benefit -- some of those appliances can make a lot of difference as to one's dis/comfort.


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  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited May 2018

    You want to remember that magnesium "instructs" where calcium is to go......to the bones and NOT to the arteries or elsewhere. It is easily depleted by TOO much calcium, stress, medications, poor diet. 1000 of calcium would be enough and vitamin D is good. I would up the magnesium to 600mg and be sure it is the highly absorbable kind or else it is waste. Walking would also help her build up more bone tissue.

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  • gkbuser
    gkbuser Member Posts: 348
    edited May 2018

    iceitla, it is vitamine K2 that we need for our bone health (not vitamin K) it is vitamin K that effects blood clotting. Vitamin K2 does not effect blood clotting at all. Hope this helps.

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  • Icietla
    Icietla Member Posts: 1,265
    edited May 2018

    Thank you very much for that, gkbuser. I have no background in Chemistry, and the only blood-and-guts class I have had was First Aid.

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  • NicolaSue
    NicolaSue Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2018

    I'm newly bothered about my bones as I've only recently started having DEXA bone density scans and I'm firmly in the osteopenia range so I'm about to start self medication.

    I've head that one form of magnesium is much better than another. Anyone know which is the right one?


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  • Icietla
    Icietla Member Posts: 1,265
    edited September 2018

    I am very sorry for my confusion. What threw me off was "The Coumadin Lecture" we got when my Most Loved One was shortly to leave the Hospital. A Nurse at the Cancer Center has explained to me that the green leafy stuff is good for our bones and should not affect our (cancer patients') clotting, but it does counteract Coumadin. That is what had me confused about it.

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  • Mommyathome
    Mommyathome Member Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2018

    so... I had a bmx 2014 and had total hysterectomy throwing me into menopause at the age of 42. I am now diagnosed with osteoporosis. My doctor put me on 70mg of fosamax today. Are any of you familiar with that drug? Thoughts about?! She gave the option of taking fosamax or avista. Thoughts?! My osteoporosis level was -2.7 I believ

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited September 2018

    I have osteoporosis too. Can’t take fosamax because it can cause jaw issues and I have dental problems already. Idk about avista. I take Boniva 1x a month and calcium tablets and Vit D1 daily.

    Diane

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  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited October 2018

    Lactoferrin has some research behind it, showing it increases bone density. It is also an immune booster, and reasonably inexpensive.

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  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited October 2018

    I had been diagnosed with osteopenia four years ago, but that was after years of having high blood calcium levels. Turns out it was caused by a parathyroid problem and after having the one bad one taken out (everyone has 4), my blood calcium returned to the normal range and my osteopenia should improve over the next year. Turns out the parathyroid was stealing calcium from my bones and putting it into the blood stream where it can cause problems with bones, kidneys, and heart. Time will tell if bone density will improve since I am older, but it could. Have your doctor check your blood calcium and parathyroid hormone (PTH) and if they are not normal, it could be a cause of thinning bones. Search the BCO site for the parathyroid thread to learn more about this possible cause of osteoporosis.

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited October 2018

    Thank you ceanna I’m going to do that.

    Diane

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  • macb04
    macb04 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited November 2018

    I am on Vitamin K2 daily for my bone and Cardiovascular Health. Vitamin K2 works synergistically with Magnesium and Vitamin D3 to escort Calicium to our bones. A good balance of these is Essential.

    In fact, in Japan, a much larger dosage of Vitamin K2 is prescribed there for treatment of Osteoporosis. I take Osteo -K's Mini, which uses the higher Japanese dosing of Vitamin K2. K2 is approved for treatment of osteoporosis by Ministry of Health in Japan since 1995.

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    https://europepmc.org/articles/PMC3321262

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4042573/

    Vitamin K2 Therapy for Postmenopausal Osteoporosis

    Jun Iwamoto

    Additional article information

    Abstract

    Vitamin K may play an important role in the prevention of fractures in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis. Menatetrenone is the brand name of a synthetic vitamin K2 that is chemically identical to menaquinone-4. The present review study aimed to clarify the effect of menatetrenone on the skeleton in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis, by reviewing the results of randomized controlled trials (RCTs) in the literature. RCTs that investigated the effect of menatetrenone on bone mineral density (BMD), measured by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry and fracture incidence in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis, were identified by a PubMed search for literature published in English. Eight studies met the criteria for RCTs. Small RCTs showed that menatetrenone monotherapy decreased serum undercarboxylated osteocalcin (ucOC) concentrations, modestly increased lumbar spine BMD, and reduced the incidence of fractures (mainly vertebral fracture), and that combined alendronate and menatetrenone therapy enhanced the decrease in serum ucOC concentrations and further increased femoral neck BMD. This review of the literature revealed positive evidence for the effects of menatetrenone monotherapy on fracture incidence in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis. Further studies are required to clarify the efficacy of menatetrenone in combination with bisphosphonates against fractures in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis.

    Keywords: vitamin K2, postmenopausal women, undercarboxylated osteocalcin, femoral neck, bone mineral density (BMD)


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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2018

    Interesting. Thanks for the tips. I have osteoporosis and take Vit D2, calcium supplements and Bonita(monthly). I’m going to ask my internist about taking Vit K.

    Diane

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2018

    be aware of Vit K if you are on Coumadin/warfarin. I am, wouldn't touch K with a 100 foot pole. Check with your MO or whoever does your INR.

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2018

    Thanks for the tip Spookiesmom. I don’t take those drugs but I am going to consult my internist about taking it. Btw your pooch is adorable!

    Diane

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2018

    woof

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2018

    image

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2018

    Pic of my fur baby. He’s 10 years old and the sweetest and most lovable dog ever! Love him so much.

    Diane

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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2018

    come over to the dog dog dog thread!😍😍

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2018

    Good idea.

    Diane

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