November 2018 Starting Radiation

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  • journeyforward
    journeyforward Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2018

    Hi everyone,

    Urdrago71 - I continue to use my R arm.

    If I was to develop swelling near the radiation site or R arm I will avoid fast, repetitive motions like the upper body Elliptical just for now - until I complete Rads.

    I walk fast on the treadmill and swing my arms when I walk and that is fine. It is so important to keep moving and work on range of motion of my shoulder joint. When you are resting on your back on the table, the set up for the treatments have your arms over your head holding to bars during the quick treatments.

    I think the Calendula Cream has been working well for me, so far. I know this is cumulative radiation so near the end of the planned treatments may cause some issues - hopefully none or minimal.

    It's really great to hear from so many going through this. From what I gather, everybody reacts differently, It's hard to predict.

  • sillyoldrabbit
    sillyoldrabbit Member Posts: 124
    edited November 2018

    Hi everyone. I had the dry run today and got some of my questions answered. The tumor was on the left side, so I asked about gated breathing and beam angles. My RO brought up the set of CT images they'd done and showed me that the location of the radiated area is far enough away from my heart that there's no need for gated breathing. However, one of the beams is going to skim the anterior surface of my left lung. She has previously told me that would happen and that there may be a little scarring but no loss of function. Sure hope that turns out to be true!! None of the beams will be coming from the back. They will come from either side at an extremely oblique angle. I'm scheduled for 25 tx (not sure about boosts yet), and like several of you, I'm hoping to complete this before the end of the year for insurance purposes. First zap is tomorrow afternoon.

  • Lavenderlee
    Lavenderlee Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2018

    Alice - I hope your rads place has a bell, if not I support bringing your own. :) Hoping those blisters heal quickly.

    Appyfan - good luck on zap number one! It was emotional and scary for me, but #2 today was much easier.

    Spoonie- thank you for the updates and glad to hear you're healing so well! Sorry for all that you went through, but love that humor!!

    Ghostie - I hope that heals soon so you can get back on schedule, glad you got a little break.

    Sillyoldrabbit- good luck tomorrow. I have a shot through my back too, but I am doing the breath hold andmy RO assures anything that touches my heart or lungs is “well within tolerance” - I can only pray that’s true!

    Urdrago - Congrats on starting, hoping the next 29 go even easier! I'm so stealing your sign off - drink water, slather creams, and be kind to yourself!

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited November 2018

    Lavenderlee, I really don't care about ringing a bell. I guess I've had enough surgeries over the years to think it's odd to act like the end of treatment for BC is more special than ending the PT when I had a hip replacement, or any other post-surgery regimens.

  • Linda2119
    Linda2119 Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2018

    Hello,

    Yesterday was my 60% done mark - finished 15 out of 25. My last treatment will be 11/30 with the Thanksgiving holiday. I am also doing the wet towel bolus - and I was also very frustrated with the lack of communication about this from the RO. (Out of all my doctors, the RO is my least favorite.) It does seem like this wet towel intensifies the skin's response to treatment.

    I'm experiencing some redness, but worse is a rash right where my bra touches my breast toward my cleavage. (I tried going without a bra but then the shirt is constantly rubbing on the area, so that didn't help.) At my Tuesday appointment with the RO, she recommended hydrocortisone. That seems to be making it worse - irritating it more. I plan to meet with the nurse today for hopefully another option. I think what is most discouraging is knowing this all peaks the week after, and knowing I have 3+ weeks before things will start improving, and that in the meantime this will get worse.... It's a lot to deal with. The RO did say she would consider abandoning the wet towel bolus after my appointment with her next Tuesday.

    I appreciate reading everyone's experiences. Everyone I know personally who have been through radiation has seemed to breeze through it. Not looking like that will happen for me.

    Linda

  • egregious
    egregious Member Posts: 240
    edited November 2018

    About to go for my simulation. Seems like many women find this step hard. I have worked a lot in hospitals and generally feel comfortable around the equipment, so hoping this will go ok.

    I share with my friends on caringbridge, but they only get about a quarter of the difficult feelings. Don't want to overwhelm them. Sisters get the real thing. Life is hard sometimes.

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Egregious, good luck w your simulation. I am nervous about mine for the reasons you mentioned.

    Linda2119, I feel fortunate that my RO listens and I feel he's invested in my care. I'm so sorry you're having a rough time w yours. This journey is difficult enough without having someone seeming to make it more traumatic. Every step of this process has me mentally screaming, "reduce the trauma!" When I'm done with active tx, I am going to give a list of things that I think could be better to my trusted MO. (Almost all involved my BS who I thought just did not give a s**t)


  • egregious
    egregious Member Posts: 240
    edited November 2018

    Hi DWiseley, thanks for the good wishes. I am back from my simulation. I didn't mind getting moved around, arms over my head for 20 minutes was ok, most of it wasn't too bad.

    It was weird going into the CT scan machine because I had never had one before. They told me exactly what to expect and most important, how long. It was just a few minutes, during which I had to remind myself to hold still and just breathe and remember that people were praying for/thinking about me. Nobody is in the room but they can hear you on the microphone, so speak up if you need something.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited November 2018

    I was supposed to have just Thursday off for Thanksgiving, and resume rads Friday, but now I'll get a four-day weekend, yay! Unfortunately I have to go in bright and early this Sunday, ick. But I'd rather do that than add a day at the end. I even went there during an early snowstorm this morning just to avoid an add-on day.

  • Lucyred
    Lucyred Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2018

    12 of 16 treatments done! Yay!! My skin is starting to turn pink, not bad but noticeable. Like I just got out of how shower pink.

    Once this is done I start back on the Xeloda for 6 more cycles then exchange surgery sometime around the end of May. So ready for this to be done with

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Lucyred, I will be having 16 tx as well so thanks for sharing your experience. I was on Xeloda for colon cancer 3 years ago! That's how I knew before my OncoDX score came back that this cancer probably wouldn't respond to chemo. It already didn't respond to chemo, lol.

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Egregious, they did a CT scan when I went for my measuring/tattooing visit. My dry run is supposed to be on Sunday, but I still have not received a call regarding whether or not the cast is done. I had cat scans before when I had colon cancer, but I've never had radiation. I'm nervous about that. You would think with all I've had in the past 3 years that I would get over the nervousness, but no, I think I am getting worse! Keep sharing your experience! Thank you!

  • Lucyred
    Lucyred Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2018

    DWiseley - your welcome. It’s not bad really. The radiation techs are really nice and that helps with any anxiety from it.

    I am not looking forward to the xeloda again but yes I didn’t respond well to the chemo the first time

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Lucyred, how long did you take Xeloda before? I had horrible hand foot syndrome, plus some nausea and vomiting...

  • Lucyred
    Lucyred Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2018

    DWiseley - I’ve only taken 2 cycles (for 2 weeks straight per cycle). I didn’t get HFM disease but I did have some nausea and lack of appetite. I had to take zolfran with it. I have 6 more cycles to go after radiation.

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Lucyred, I took zofran and Ativan, but not consistently, so I occasionally got sick. I was able to work through it, but it was hard bc I'm a teacher and on my feet a lot. The school nurse was a life saver by hooking me up with some ice packs. My MO prescribed vitamin B6 and it helped. I'm glad you didn't get h/f syndrome! Fingers crossed that you won't when you are finishing up.

  • wlo002
    wlo002 Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2018

    I'm 3 days in and my anxiety is getting better, thankfully. The tech (is that what they are called??) that does my treatment has been really great. He took the time to answer all of my questions and even gave me some skin care suggestions based on what he sees.

    Linda2119 - I'm sorry you're having a hard time. I'm using the towel daily, but I'm only getting started. Can I ask how far in did you start to have skin issues? Everything I've read has me scared of how bad it can get. I haven't seen my RO since my consult 6 weeks ago. I kind-of feel like I was thrown in blind

    AliceBastable - I get to go Sunday morning (7:00!) instead of Friday, too. I'm ready for a few days with family, not thinking about work or cancer treatment and where I need to be when!

  • urdrago71
    urdrago71 Member Posts: 559
    edited November 2018

    Lavenderlee, Im 3/33 and today I had more anxiety than the first few times I've been placed in the machine. Ugh. Haven't noticed any color changes in skin. I've got cording so I've noticed it tightening slightly. I go tomorrow and then Monday thru Wednesday since the office is closed for the Holidays.

    WLO002 & AliceBastable, I wish I cld get this over quicker. I wld so wake up early on Sunday.

    Wlo002,Congrats on getting thru today..

    Journeyforward, i got some Calendula Cream today. So going to slather some on tonight..How are you feeling?


    Sending good vibes.. drink water, slather creams and be kind to urself.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    Hi ladies! I'm almost halfway through treatment and just wanted to provide some encouragement for those of you who are nervous about it. I'M OK SO FAR. Really. Still no side effects yet, I think what's helping is I'm applying Miaderm immediately after the radiation treatment. I also apply aloe vera in the morning and night.

    The only difficulty I'm having is that it takes a chunk out of your day (I'm 40 min. to an hour away, so all in all it's 2-3 hours with the drive) and I'm still working through all this. I get to work from home which helps, but then I've been working ridiculously late into the night. I told my boss last week that I need to start taking one day off a week just to focus on health and healing, and that day was today. I may take more time off depending on how things go, it would be nice to have the paycheck but also we need to prioritize ourselves and our health, right? But it's a balance...

    For those of us who were questioning what gets scanned, I also met with my doctor earlier in the week and he was able to show me the actual X-rays of what gets radiated etc. Nothing from the back or underside. Most of it is from an angle and it does very slightly touch the lungs but not in a major way. There is an overhead angle but on that one, they actually block it so it doesn't get to the lungs, but is much more localized.

    Anyways, I'm through 14 of 30 sessions and still fine! I would address everyone individually but I don't want to leave anyone out, but please know I've read your posts and am supporting you, and I hope that those of you who are nervous about it can feel a bit more reassured that it's possible to skate through this, and those of you who are having some side effects, you have my absolute respect for soldiering through. And I hope something of what your reading on this board can help you through it! For me, I would recommend Miaderm and staying hydrated.

    Oh - another thing that's probably helping me stay super positive is that I'm allowed to bring my little emotional support dog Domino! The radiologists and staff all welcome her and look forward to seeing her, and they bring her into the room while I get set up, and then walk her out while I'm getting the treatment, and then bring her back in. She's so well behaved and I'm posting a pic here just for the good vibe!

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  • Appyfan
    Appyfan Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2018

    PebblesV, Domino is absolutely adorable! Thank you for sharing her

  • urdrago71
    urdrago71 Member Posts: 559
    edited November 2018

    Domino, shes beautiful..Our pets do comfort us and make this journey a bit easier..

  • sillyoldrabbit
    sillyoldrabbit Member Posts: 124
    edited November 2018

    Awww, PebblesV, I feel completely cured just looking at the photo of Domino. Thanks for sharing.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    You're welcome all! I'm glad she helps brightened things and will share another pic on my next update.

    Stay strong ladies!

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Pebbles, where does one get such an adorable emotional support creature? 💓

  • Lavenderlee
    Lavenderlee Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2018

    Pebbles - Love domino, thank you for sharing that sweet face! So cool that they let you bring her along!

    Today is 5/33 with the bolus and I’ve already noticed a slight tan on my breast. I apply miaderm directly after treatment when getting dressed and switch between that and aloe multiple times a day. My RO says 4 and my MO mentioned the sweet number is around 5 daily slathers - I’ll do whatever I can to keep moving along.

    The first week seems to go by quick. I have the same Sun-Wed schedule as many of you with a 4 day weekend, nice little break in the first couple of weeks.

    I appreciate the updates and love hearing the positives, and sorry to hear the negatives. I hope for quick healing. Gladthat sims are moving along and treatments are getting started.

    Linda - I hope that rash clears up quickly. That is one big thing about the bolus that worries me.

    I enjoy going braless (trying to see the bright side in my foobs) so hoping to prevent any rubbing. I practice hot yoga so I worry how that will react as the reactions intensify.

    As Urdrago says - drink water, slather creams, and be kind to yourself! 💕

  • mLghtn
    mLghtn Member Posts: 101
    edited November 2018

    Hi All,

    I just wanted to give a positive update. I have done 13/15 whole breast (i'm doing the higher dose, shorter course), and my skin has stayed almost the same as after the first few tx (slightly pink at the end of the day)! 2 days ago I started getting a small itchy rash on upper chest area and the RO said normal sweat gland reaction but to use hydrocortisone if it bothers me. I did that and it didn't seem to help much, then I also slathered a lot of the emu oil on before bed and this morning rash was gone! I'm also still using my girls about 3x/day, combo seems to be working. I chose these 2 products based on users experience with them on this site. i also take advil and claritin every night as anti-inflammatories since I'm still dealing with myalgia from chemo, and this seems to control the tenderness/pain in breast that i'm getting from radiation as well. I notice a big difference when I don't take them. In addition I am very diet conscious, making sure I get enough hydration, protein, and certain vitamins from foods since I am not allowed to take supplements (other than the b vitamins). My RO and RN never recommended specific products proactively, rather they seem to wait until you have a problem. Also, I didn't see them until 10 days after starting rads (other than initial consult). This seems to be normal in larger high volume centers like where I am at. It is an NCI center using the newest technology which is mainly why I chose to go there. Their machine also is able to deliver extremely accurate dosing without any tattoos or marks on skin (red light system, they said cost the facility like 1/2 mil $, and will not work if breast has significant increase in size due to swelling). My point is, even though they don't seem to advise me much, due to their use of newest rads technology machine, IMRT, and hypo fractionated dosing, they assured me this would not be like the horror stories I read and they generally have good outcomes, so I feel good going there. That said, I know it is still likely to get worse since the effects are cumulative even after tx is over. Also, I was told there are always some individuals who react badly, but its usually due to other chronic illnesses or inflammatory processes in the body. I was very anxious of rads and therefore maybe going a little overboard. ugh, just writing about all this makes me feel like I've been overly proactive and paranoid, but I figure it can't hurt and if it worked for others then I want to try and do the same. Hope this helps some of you starting out, hang in there everyone, and enjoy the weekend (I also go in on sun) :)

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Mlghtn and all others who are posting their experiences and products, thank you! Your posts make me feel less alone in this whirlwind of tx.

  • egregious
    egregious Member Posts: 240
    edited November 2018

    Hey DWiseley,

    I see you're from Findlay. I'm from Middletown. Bet there are lot of Ohio women on this forum.

    It sure does help to share these experiences with others who really know how hard it is.

    Take care.

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Egregious, I lived in Akron til I was 10 then moved to Lima. I was exposed to a lot of carcinogens... Isn't Middletown near Dayton? I imagine there are lots of Ohio women on this board! O-H

  • ghostie13
    ghostie13 Member Posts: 59
    edited November 2018

    Appointment today......Blister is smaller and radiation rescheduled to start the 26th. So I will end up going into December.....but will be finished by the end of the year so that's a huge relief ..... Then a six month wait to see if I want to consult a plastic surgeon. Still very much on the fence about that.....

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