October 2018 Surgery Support Group

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  • LillianGish
    LillianGish Member Posts: 108
    edited November 2018

    Bookworm, I too asked the oncologist to get the Oncotype score going and was told the same thing you were ~ that we needed to wait for the path report. So, you confirmed for me that’s protocol. Thank you! You and i think alike.

    Good luck tomorrow!

  • apatient
    apatient Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2018

    jennie—after a couple weeks I ended up renting a recliner at a medical supply store. Best decision I ever made. It made a world of difference. I could finally get some restful sleep.

    I too am feeling a little behind the curve in recovering, but it’s OK. I’m at 4 weeks now. I didn’t drive until 3 weeks. I still get tired easily and am doing minimal housework. But I see signs of improvement. I finally got my drains out two days ago and today I had a real shower! Your body WILL heal at its own pace so don’t worry about it too much. Soon you will turn a corner

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Rant! I had my surgery on October 10th, I have a very rare bleeding disorder that my surgeon was well aware of and in fact could have looked in my file at previous surgeries to see what to do to prevent a bleed. He did not do that and I ended up with an enormous hematoma my entire breast was three times its normal size in purple. My incision opened up at the bottom and all the black blood drained out all over my house and was very painful. I am calling around now trying to get a different surgeon because I don't want to go back to this guy cuz because I do not trust him. No one will take me because somebody else did the surgery. So I'm between a rock and a hard place. Either I don't get any follow-up or I have to go back to someone that I totally do not like or trust.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    LillianGish,

    Good luck with your appt today! Glad we were both able to confirm protocol!!

  • Aussie-Cat
    Aussie-Cat Member Posts: 5,168
    edited November 2018

    DWisely, I'm so sorry that happened to you and I hope you can find a better surgeon soon.

  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Thanks Aussiecat. I'm mostly healed except for some swelling above the incision. It would be nice to have it checked by someone competent. I am glad I have a place to rant bc I already feel better!

  • Aussie-Cat
    Aussie-Cat Member Posts: 5,168
    edited November 2018

    DWisely, I'm glad to hear that you're mostly healed and you already feel better!! Having a place to rant is very important.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    Just got back from the MO.

    Looks like four cycles of AC and then 12 weekly sessions of Taxol. Also, being referred to Radiation doctor to see about treatments along with Lymphedema therapists. Doctor is also recommending 10 years of Tamoxifen due to age.

    Kind of expected this, and just glad to get a plan together! Chemo is set to start on november 27th so at least I get to enjoy Thanksgiving!! Boy does the schedule fill up quickly once they get moving!

    He did move me from a stage 2B to 2A...don’t really know if this makes a difference. But he is still recommending an oopherectomy or hysterectomy after treatment.


  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    you can do it, bookworm! Main issue with AC is fatigue. I’m sure the mo will prescribe something to help with the nausea (I took steroid pills and zofran and some infusion anti nausea meds). I imagine you’ll likely get neulasta shots or something similarly to keep your white blood cell counts up. Taxol causes less fatigue but more body aches which can be managed with meds too.

    Wishing you all the best in this next step! Please stay in touch and don’t hesitate to reach out if you need to vent or ask questions.



  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited November 2018

    Bookworm, we are all here to support you. My only experience w chemo was for colon cancer, and it's rough, but totally doable. My only advice is to let people help you. 💓

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    Thanks star2017! Trying to go in with as upbeat of an attitude as possible. the write two nausea scripts and I will have to do the nulesta shots for sure. A bit worried about fatigue since I HAVE to work through this since we own our own business...hoping that I can push through on most of the days. Have “chemo school” on Friday so that should give me a bit more info.

    DWiseley,

    I am lucky to have a good set of family around that are always offering to help so just have to make sure I ask for help! 😉.

    Ladies,

    I appreciate all the help and encouragement from each of you on this board! You all have been awesome!

  • LillianGish
    LillianGish Member Posts: 108
    edited November 2018

    Dwiesely, hope you’re ok. Rant is justified!

    You have a plan Bookworm! Sounds solid.

    My first MO visit was a little less productive....because...you guessed it.....the results of the tumor genetic testing haven’t come in yet. Not due for 7-10 days. So tempting to go over the timeline of why the test could have been ordered 7-10 days ago, but I let the water go under that bridge.

    He uses mammaprint and not Oncotype. He told me to prepare for the question of what if Mammaprint says expected recurrence is low, when we know my tumor was grade 3. “It’s grade 3 but it’s not behaving like a grade 3 since lymph nodes were clear.” I think the risk is high and I’ll vote chemo but said I would ponder the choice. Going to go read up on how accurate mammaprint results are. Also questioning how grade 3s usually “behave.” I suspect they behave badly in different ways and I don’t trust them. ;>

    Healing thoughts to all.

  • Kat22
    Kat22 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2018

    Just checking in.....I've been battling a seroma in my armpit for the past couple weeks. First time, she drained 140 ml of fluid. I've been back 2 times since then, it's been way less than that but still significant. Got it drained today and although the fluid was clear, I've had pain and a slight fever since Sunday so she put me on antibiotics and told me to take a week off work. I admitted to her that I went back to work too early (1 week post-op), but I felt great then. Oh well, live and learn I guess. On the bright side, during that week of work I got promoted and am now salaried so I'll get paid for this week. And I plan to make the most of it :)

    Hugs, all!

  • llupp
    llupp Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2018

    I called my surgeon she prescribed more pain meds she said I let my pain get ahead of me. I had my surgery Oct 24th still have a lot of pain in the chest and underarm. My surgeon said for me to just rest no activity and we will talk after our next appt. on Thurs. My pathology came back no cancer. I hope I start feeling better soon.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    I have a question...mark Oncologist says that there will not be any yearly scans for check ups, on tumor markers. I would honk an MRI or other scans would be ordered yearly...are tumor markers more reliable and quicker to find issues

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    Kat22,

    Hope the pain and fever improve. At least something good came out of going in early...maybe helps to offset the bad some. Congratulations on the promotion

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    my doctor said no scans unless I start feeling different, weak, short of breath, pain, etc. I have unexplained back pain along my spine and last month tho it was unlikely, they did do a bone scan. Thankfully everything came out clear.



  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    stat2017,

    Good news on the clean scan! I just expected for them to tell me about all the tests I would have after...blood tests are much better! Just wondering which one is more precise and can catch things earlier.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    according to my mo research suggested no greater results when they used to scan more frequently, and it resulted in greater anxiety and exposure to radiation. So now I think the protocol is to wait and see and scan only when there's cause.



  • llupp
    llupp Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2018

    My question for all bilateral masectomy is how long for the pain and fatigue so I can get back to my old life. I feel like a truck rolled over me. Surgeon said to just relax read a book play a game just sit. Its onlily been 2 1/2 weeks 2 drians have been removed 2 to go. I can go on short walks she saids.

  • MastectomySister
    MastectomySister Member Posts: 19
    edited November 2018

    llupp: The fatigue was rough with my mastectomy and I think weeks 2-3 it hit big time and surprised me at how incredibly fatigued I felt. But then after week three it improved drastically. Hang in there. It’ll get better!!!


  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    llupp,

    The tired feeling may persist for a bit only because your body went through a shock. Did you have any type of reconstruction? I had heard that when we do reconstruction it is a little longer and tougher recovery than if we had decided to opt out of reconstruction. As far as feeling better overall, it seems it is different from lady to lady on here. I was back to work prior to the fourth week, but am exhausted by the end of the day. We all process these surgeries different so I would continue to take it easy until your body says Let’s Go! However, I will say that having the drains out makes a HUGE difference in the way you feel. I felt a bunch of strain with those drains, and slept much better when they were out. Wishing you the best on your journey

  • DeeDeeT
    DeeDeeT Member Posts: 76
    edited November 2018

    llupp- I have been surprised at the fact that I don't feel "normal" yet after my lumpectomy on the 26th. I'm sure the type of surgery you had would need even longer. I guess in my mind, since it was outpatient, and "just" a lump I thought I should be completely fine in a day or two.Haha! Oh my, no! I still have some stubborn surgical glue and I am quite sore. Surprisingly so. I have been able to get back to most things that I usually do, but it hurts! I also tire easily and I stop and rest when I can. I am pretty sure I have some nerve damage and I know it aggravated my frozen shoulder, that had almost healed. So, it hasn't been as easy as I had hoped. I usually tolerate pain fairly well (I tried for natural births for my five children and was successful for four).That being said, I am sure you need this time to heal. I wanted to reach out to you and say I truly hope you are listening to your body and are able to go easy on yourself. I also hope you can get plenty of rest. You have been through so much!! I really like this forum, because we can share our real experiences with our surgeries. The good and the bad.

    I had some good news yesterday!! I got a call from my oncologist's office, moving my appointment from December to . . . .Today!!!! Woo-hoo!!! No more more waiting!!!! I was getting sad that everyone else knew what their plan was and I had to wait forever to know if I needed chemo or not. So, I'm pretty sure today is the day!!! Woo-hoo!!! Seriously, I just want to know.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    llupp, it’s too early to expect to feel normal. Especially with drains in. I had outpatient surgery three weeks ago (exchange and ooph). I start to feel normal and WHAM the fatigue hits and I have to take a break. Our bodies are working hard to heal physically while also managing the side effects of this mentally and emotionally challenging time. Give yourself time to heal. You’ll be able to do a lot, but it’s also necessary to pay attention to your body and take it easy when you can.


  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    I had three incisions for my laparoscopic ooph, one small one at the belly button, another small one at the left, and a largely deeper one on the right through which the doctor removed the tubes and ovaries. I thought I was healing fine but for the past couple of days the belly button was has been very tender and the location is such that it’s hard to ignore and every movement causes a twinge of pain. I’m thinking it got irritated by waistbands and such bc of the location. I hope it’s nothing serious.

  • DeeDeeT
    DeeDeeT Member Posts: 76
    edited November 2018

    Oh no, Star!! I do hope you start feeling better soon! It has to be hard to have an incision right by your waist band. Ouch!!

  • LilyCh
    LilyCh Member Posts: 193
    edited November 2018

    kat22, nice to hear back from you. I thought lumpectomy would be a much easier option, but sorry to know you still had some kind of complications (that makes me wonder...). Hope you feel better very soon.

    When will you start to have radiations? How long the radiations suppose to last?

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    star2017,

    I hope that the pain/discomfort gets better soon. Could it be related more towards using your stomach muscles more due to the surgery for the implants and born using your arms as much? You would think the doctors would take where clothing sits into the equation when deciding where to cut. I would call the dr just to be safe though.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    Anyone else having these problems?

    I still cannot straighten my left arm out when I raise it to shoulder level. It continues to get worse and now you can see tendons raising up from the skin. This goes all the way from under my arm to the palm of my hand. I have tried stretching, but it is not improving and the pain used to be in the upper arm and elbow and now affects the whole arm. Yesterday started pain and tenderness on the back shoulder blade area of that same arm. It hurts to the touch, similar to the feel after you have a deep tissue massage. No swelling or bruising that I can see. Just odd because I can move my arm just about fine except when I try above my head. So weird

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    Bookworm, I recall after the mx having a pain that gradually moved down my arm during the first month or two. I mentioned it to my doctors and they hadn't heard of such a thing before. Visually you could not see anything wrong. I had no swelling or inflammation and eventually (I wish I could give you a timeline, but I honestly can't recall) it went away. Have your doctors recommended physiotherapy at all? I know also there's "cording" that occurs with lymphadema sometimes, but I really don't know what it is, and I wonder if it may be related to what you're experiencing.



    Regarding my belly button incision pain: I did call my gyn surgeon's office and spoke to a nurse. They recommended I try Aquaphor to see if it relieves the topical discomfort/pain, but it really didn't do anything. Last night it bothered me enough that I put on Neosporin ointment and took an Advil and went to sleep. The pain is still there but way more localized than it was before. I can bend down without it hurting, etc. So it seems better, though not resolved. I may need to go in and have it checked, but for now I'm going to see what a couple days of Neosporin ointment will do. I already have an appointment on Monday with a different doctor (same hospital) and if it doesn't seem better, maybe I can pop by my gyn surgeon's office.



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