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  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited November 2018

    Hi Wigging,

    See if your hospital has a social worker. They might be able to connect you to financial resources.

    Also the most important thing for your daughters isn't your money. It's you. Yes it will be sad and scary but then they will be together with you in it, instead of far from you in it, which is scarier

  • Wigging2000
    Wigging2000 Member Posts: 295
    edited November 2018

    hugs, Salamandra. Thank you...very wise words. I am fortunate to have two retirement accounts which I can use if needed. Retirement is definitely not the first thing on my mind at the moment

  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited November 2018

    Hi Wigging,

    Most retirement accounts are shielded from collections for debt and even from bankruptcy. It's a common mistake and very sad. Here's one source about it but there are lots of others. People shouldn't feel bad about saving their retirement accounts instead of spending them for medical debt/reasons, that's why they are exempt - to help people maintain their independence later on. So if you do need to declare a medical bankruptcy (and it's the most common cause of bankruptcy in the USA) you can at least still keep your retirement savings. Speak to the hospital social worker and any other resources you can, but I would use credit before withdrawing retirement savings.

  • Wigging2000
    Wigging2000 Member Posts: 295
    edited November 2018

    wow! Thank you, Salamandra! I hadn't ever thought of that

  • MomOfTeenGirl01
    MomOfTeenGirl01 Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2018

    I am 46, do not have any of the breast cancer genes. I eat pretty healthy, nonsmoker, and am normal weight for my height/not overweight.

    I noticed that my right breast looked strange. At first I thought it was just my age, but then I felt my breast and noticed a bunch of little bebees which I had not felt before.

    Was diagnosed mid September 2018, still waiting to get my surgery date. They are saying it is 7cm cribiform, and I am pretty anxious to get this thing out of me. The whole right breast has to go, including nipple.

  • Salamandra
    Salamandra Member Posts: 1,444
    edited November 2018

    MomOfTeen, I'm surprised you haven't got a surgery date yet! 7cm seems big, though maybe if cribriform means it's DCIS they're less concerned. I would push them though, and maybe explore other options that your insurance gives you access too.

    I have family history but no genetic mutations, also pretty healthy. I think it's bad luck and that's that.

    Good for you for catching it!

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    Hi Wigging2000 - welcome to our thread! We're with you as you wait for test results, I know that can be the most anxious time. Sending good vibes your way.

    Please look up FMLA (Family and Medical Leave Act) - it allows for you to take leave and pays up to a certain amount of your salary. Also, a lot of us are continuing to work through this, your employer might allow for that flexibility where you can still work but take time as needed for appointments and treatments. And I agree with Salamandra, the most important thing for your daughters is that you persevere and get through this. Here's a link to FMLA... https://www.dol.gov/whd/fmla/

    @MomofTeen... welcome to our thread as well! I also do not have a history of breast cancer in my family, genes are all clear, I don't smoke, don't drink etc. In the meantime my sister who smoked, drinks, is more overweight than me did not get breast cancer. It seems to be just luck of the draw to a certain extent, although along with proper treatment, I'm also trying to do what I can from a nutrition standpoint to fight this. I found this really useful site listing foods that are good or bad to help beat breast cancer and why, backed by medical articles and studies etc... https://foodforbreastcancer.com/

    I was diagnosed Sept. 7th and had my surgery Sept. 19th, in the midst of radiation treatment now, and I'm working from home while going through it. I'm also surprised you haven't gotten a surgery date yet - have you met with the surgeon for the initial consultation? In favor of squeaky wheel gets the grease, could you start calling them and following up and asking when you're surgery date will be?

    Wishing you, and all of us, the best of luck through this process! Sorry for the empty initial post, it had accidentally deleted and I have no way to edit it, so you can see my original post in the comments instead.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    I was 37 and pregnant. My mother had bc but after menopause and I didn’t realize I was high risk. I didn’t find out about being brca2+ until after diagnosis.

    It’s been a whirlwind and I’m constantly worried about how it’s affecting my kids and strong, quiet husband. I worry about the future and being a burden now.

    I’m sorry you’re here too, but if I can help, please let me know.



  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    star2017 - thank you so much so posting. I'm so glad you have your family to support you. My husband has also been amazing. We don't have kids though, but I'm pulling some eggs and we are creating little embryos before I go on any hormone therapy because I have heard it messes with your fertility.

    I heard of one other lady who went through chemo while pregnant and delivered a healthy baby! Were you pregnant going through all the treatment? How has your journey with tamoxifen been since? I need to take it but am wary about potential side effects.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    I had my mastectomy when pregnant, then a csection, then chemo, etc. briefly they considered switching the order but I was at the beginning of the third tri and eventually the doctors agreed on this krder


    In the beginning with tamoxifen I felt more joint pain/stiffness, but either I’ve gotten used to it or it’s gone away. No other obvious side effects. Overall I’ve done well on it. I just had my ovaries removed last month so it’s possible they’ll switch me to an AI, but let’s see.

  • DeeBB
    DeeBB Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2018

    I am 47 and diagnosed in September, I've already had lumpectomy and sentinel lymph node biopsy. Lymph nodes were negative. Mine is stage 1A grade 2 and ER+/PR+ HER2- My DX test came back at 17. I am scheduled for genetic testing middle of December.

    I am also pretty health, no history of breast cancer in my family, eat healthy, yearly check ups. I start radiation the first week of December. It has definitely been a roller coaster of emotions. My husband, friends and family have all been great and very supportive. Now that I have more results back I feel a little more at ease but still have moments of anxiety.

    I do plan on working while going through radiation, my work will try to accommodate as best as they can, I have filed FMLA intermittent just in case it's needed.

    I wish you all well on the unwanted journey. As always, stay strong and try and stay as positive as possible.


  • China357
    China357 Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2018

    Hey pebbles my name is Jennifer I'm 41 I was diagnosed with the same as u I refused chemo and every thing they offered me for treatment except surgery that was five years ago I'm still living but I'm in stage 4 the cancer has spread to my bones I think I'm better off without the chemo at least I think I'll live longer!

  • Spoonie77
    Spoonie77 Member Posts: 925
    edited November 2018

    Hi Pebbles...<waves> I'm just popping in, even though we've "met" each other on plenty of other threads. LOL. Hope Domino is bringing you lots of smiles this week and you are set to enjoy your holiday "break" from RADs.

    For everyone else, a bit about me. Am 41, was dxd this past summer. Wrangled with the decision between DMX and Lumpectomy in August. Settled on Lump when was negative for genetic BRCA/etc. Healed and then faced the Chemo decision. Onco was 17, asked for Mammoprint to confirm before I could have peace with no Chemo, Mammo confirmed low, as well as 10% KI-67. Just finished RADs on Halloween, it wasn't pleasant and am undergoing heavy duty Cancer Rehab/Physical Therapy to deal with Radiation Fibrosis, as well as ongoing Breast Lymphedema. Also am in the process of trying to decide if Tamoxifen is something I can add into my "spoonie" life. Le Sigh. So many decisions, and I'm just tired of making them. I know you all can relate. Such is the life we lead, right? Onward we go.

    Wigging --> I just want to second what others have suggested, pls do ask your Oncologist about a Social Worker to see. They should have connections to provide you with to help offset some of the costs and so forth. I was set up with one at my first visit. She helped connect me with Pink Ribbon Riders, Hope Chest, Road To Recovery, and my cancer centers' financial assistance dept, all of which helped me receive grants for gas cards, grocery cards, and help pay various bills during my active cancer treatment stages. I don't know how I would have survived financially without their generosity, as I was already living month-to-month on Disability prior to my IDC dx this summer. Here is the link to the American Cancer Society page to find local resources in your area. I hope this helps.

    Sending hugs and healing to all.....

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    Happy Thanksgiving ladies and fellow woman warriors! Sending much love and healing to all and thankful for this group where I’m a bit comforted knowing I’m not alone in this, that we’re all going through this with similar stories.

    DeeBB - Our stories are almost exactly the same! Except you actually have a slightly better prognosis than me. I was also diagnosed in September, did the lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy, but came back with positive nodes. They were thinking chemo until my oncotype came back at 21 saying there was no benefit to chemo, so now it’s radiation and hormone therapy. I can understand the roller coaster of emotions - I feel like a cloud lifted once I got the no chemo confirmation. Now I have a plan of action so I feel so much more ready to face this and beat it, but I have to say all the anticipation and waiting for test results is the worst. It’s a relief when results come back clear - I had clean bone scans and CT scans and genetic testing. So at least there’s that. I’ve learned to count the silver linings and small wins. Husband and family have also been amazing, this has highlighted for me who the true friends are too.

    Star2017 - What an inspiration you are! Really helpful to hear you’ve been taking tamoxifen with little to no side effects as well, as that’s something I will need to start soon and I’m wary about the potential side effects.

    China357 - Thx for sharing your story! Very brave if you to forgo the traditional route and glad to see you are a survivor. Have you done anything from a natural standpoint? I have a low oncotype score so don’t need chemo although I’m doing the radiation and hormone therapy, but I’ve also been researching things like ChrisBeatCancer.com and FoodForBreastCancer.com to improve my odds as much as possible with what I learn and can do from a nutritional standpoint as well.

    Spoonie77 - Good to see you here too! We are enjoying the “break” (it’s nice to have a couple days where I don’t need to drive to an appt.) and I hope this weekend can be extra extra healing for you too. Sounds like you and I are both doing tons of research right now and learning more and more as we go. I never thought I would know so much about bc. Keep me posted on what you decide on re: tamoxifen and I’ll do the same - and I hope things can recover more for you this weekend

    Spoonie knows these pups well now, introducing Domino (also my little support dog) and Tucker to this thread! Hope they bring smiles. #pawfamily

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  • GardenGirl11
    GardenGirl11 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2018

    Hi! I am 43 and was diagnosed September of last year with stage 1 IDC. I'm one year cancer free. I can't comment on the radiation or chemo but taking Tamoxifen isn't as bad as I thought. Wishing everyone all the best.

  • Love83
    Love83 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2018

    I'm about to start Chemo on the 4rh of December and scared of the side effects but scared of the alternative. But my question is why is everyone seem to be hesitant about Tamoxifen? Just trying to learn.

  • Spoonie77
    Spoonie77 Member Posts: 925
    edited November 2018

    Love83 --> Welcome and wishing you the best with Chemo.

    I totally get wanting to learn. I've been doing ALOT lately. Here is my thread about my concerns regarding Tamoxifen for my situation. Any Early 40's Declining Tamoxifen? I think everyone has different reasoning in general, but for me, it's because of risk factors, side effects, and preserving my quality of life (QOL) since I already deal with about 10 other chronic illnesses/diagnosis besides the newest three to the mix; IDC, radiation fibrosis, and breast lymphadema.

    Another good thread, IMO, to read about the SEs and risk factors and efficacy in preventing recurrence/etc is Tamoxifen absolute vs relative benefit--is it worth it? .

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    GardenGirl - thanks for joining our thread and congrats for being 1 year cancer free! Do you have any advice for those of us that haven't started tamoxifen yet? I posted this thread seeking advice on how to AVOID side effects of tamoxifen but haven't gotten a huge response yet, which makes me wonder if it's luck of the draw or are there things we can do to try and have a smoother ride with this.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/78/topics...

    Love83 - when I thought I needed chemo, I found this useful helpful thread from a girl who pretty much got through chemo with no side effects, and so she posted her tips to help everyone else out. She didn't even lose her hair! She used Penguin Caps or something like that. Anyways, if you are anxious about chemo, hopefully this is reassuring and helpful: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topics...

    Also, we are nervous about Tamoxifen because there are side effects there too. My sister's friend ended up having to have a hysterectomy because she got blood clots from tamoxifen. I have horrible eyesight and am worried about what I hear re: tamoxifen worsening your eyesight. It's something we have to take for 5 years, so side effects are much longer lasting. It seems the major side effects are rare but they are still out there, so it's always the risk/benefit scenario - for me, I will definitely try taking tamoxifen but am super wary about the side effects. There was a study showing that a certain % of women stopped taking tamoxifen after 2 years due to the side effects.

    Spoonie - did you also see this thread? It paints Tamoxifen in a much more positive light and I'm reading this one too (like you, I'm a sponge right now, learning as we go!):

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/78/topics/802604?page=8#idx_217

  • Spoonie77
    Spoonie77 Member Posts: 925
    edited November 2018

    Thanks Pebbles for the link to the other thread "Has Anyone Felt Better on Tamoxifen?".

    I've added to to my topics so I can follow it! :)

  • China357
    China357 Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2018

    Just make your body alkaline 80 percent alkaline and 20 percent acidity do not consume anything in your body unless it's natural ....like came from a seed


  • Oya80
    Oya80 Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2018

    Hi everyone, I'd like to join this thread too. Thanks Pebbles for getting it started because it seems there are a lot of us in this age bracket.

    Im 38, married mom of 4, diagnosed with grade 2 ER+(98%) PR+(95%) HER2-, IDC in October. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow that I had BMX along with reconstruction. Pathology results were 3.2cm tumor, putting me at stage 2a.

    I'm recovering well enough & hope to return to work next week. I see BS, PS, & oncologist all this week so I'll know for sure. As far as treatment, 10yrs of hormonal therapy has been recommended. No word on chemo, which honestly scares me because of the potential effects on livelihood.

    There's so much to take in.

  • Jinx27
    Jinx27 Member Posts: 238
    edited November 2018

    Just turned 30! Was diagnosed at 27 y/o.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    Happy birthday, Jinx!

    Hi, Oya. Sorry we're meeting under these circumstances. Do you know if any of your nodes were affected?

    Love83, Best wishes with chemo. We're here for you.


  • Oya80
    Oya80 Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2018

    Hi Star, yes definitely unfortunate circumstances. This forum has been a godsend during such an uncertain time. I appreciate everyone here for sharing their stories.

    Luckily no nodes were affected. Seems we caught it early enough. ...that's what I cling to when I get down & fear sets it.

    Love&light to all.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    Hi Oya80 - welcome to our thread! It's been encouraging for me as well to connect with others of similar age / lifestyle going through this. I remember this whirlwind of appointments. My advice is to come to it prepared with your questions, I've noticed the docs don't always volunteer information but will answer thoroughly when you ask. For me, I asked about the oncotype DX test which is what ended up determining that I don't need chemo as apparently this type of cancer would respond just as well to hormone therapy (tamoxifen). The type of breast cancer they tend to do the test for is ER+ / PR+ / HER2- like yours, but usually also when the tumor is less than 2cm and in less than 4 nodes. Still might be worth asking. I also hears there's something called mammaprint although I know less about that.

    Jinx - congrats on being 3 years out and welcome to your 30's! Any tips for those of us going through treatment since you now officially qualify as a survivor? Also did you need to do hormone therapy or not?

    (PS - the 30's are a great age, more confidence and stability in your 30's, still so many possibilities ahead)

    Spoonie - you're welcome! I hope that thread is at least a bit more encouraging.

    Sending healing thoughts and positive vibes to all! Oh, and a ridiculously cute pic of Domino who comes with me to radiation treatments.

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  • Palesa2018
    Palesa2018 Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2018

    Hi, I'm 39, married with two kids, 6 and 3 years old. With bmx surgery and radiation behind me (Oncotype 12) and having started Zoladex and Tamoxifen I can honestly say I'm starting to feel normal again. I only took 3 weeks off work after surgery, thereafter I went back to work. I did radiation daily at 7am and went to work straight after. It wasn't a complete breeze, just doable. I kept up with daily 5km walks at 5am and that helped me immensely, both emotionally and keeping my body strong. Not great to be here but not impossible. Hugs to all.

  • amyrn129
    amyrn129 Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2018

    I'm 42 yrs old and was diagnosed with IDC, E+|P+|HER2-

    I wasdiagnosed by screening mammogram on Oct 31,2018. My solid mass was 7mm on ultrasound. I was diagnosed with ultrasound guided core biopsy.

    I've had a bone scan followed by a MRI of my left femur for an abnormality that they still aren't sure about, a breast MRI, chest X-ray, genetic testing (which was all negative), and I saw a reconstructive surgeon.

    I'm meeting with my breast surgeon tomorrow morning to make my final decision. I was offered a lumpectomy followed by 6 weeks of radiation or mastectomy without radiation (and I assume I'll have to take Tamoxifen). These are my pre-surgery options. I guess the follow up may change after surgery.

    I think I'm going to have a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction on Dec 7th.

    I have a lot of scar tissue from a breast reduction I had when I was 18. There's quite a bit of breast cancer on my biological fathers side as well.

    I'm a nurse and an Ob/Gyn Doctor friend of mine told me that skin is NEVER the same after radiation and if I get a second diagnosis it could make reconstruction difficult. Then there are risks of radiation to your skin, bones and lungs...

    I think what really made me lean towards mastectomy was after talking to the reconstructive surgeon about genetics. I said I wouldn't have a mastectomy if they were negative. He pointed out that even though it's a good way to look at it that there are still many genes no one knows about yet. He asked if I was willing to risk that. And I don't want to.


  • Raysal
    Raysal Member Posts: 45
    edited November 2018

    pebbles V and Oya80, oncotype can still be done on a 3cm tumor provided that its hormone positive, her2 negative and less than 4 positive nodes.

    My tumor is 3cm and I'm waiting on oncotype results. So would be worthwhile to still get the oncotype test. According to my doctor because of age and tumor size I'm in the grey for chemo, so oncotype should clear that, unless I get a number in the middle then I guess it's my call? Hoping for a number that's on either end of the spectrum not in the middle.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited November 2018

    Hi Raysal - Thanks for the info! In that case, OYA80 - I definitely recommend you ask about the Oncotype DX test. The results will either help determine you don't need chemo, or if you do, help you feel more certain about that path being beneficial.

    Raysal - I was hoping for either end of the spectrum too and ended up in the middle... it's not so bad. My Oncotype was low intermediate at 21. Definitely make sure you get to see the actual chart and test results, as mine said Tamoxifen only 13% (risk of recurrence) and Tamoxifen + Chemo 13% (risk of recurrence). So for me, even though I was in the middle (well, middle low), my actual chart and results indicated that chemo would provide zero benefit. So the oncologist then said that he would not recommend chemo since tamoxifen alone was shown to be just as effective. FYI my tumor was 1.7cm BUT two sentinel lymph nodes had cancer, so the onc. was thinking chemo all along until we got the oncotype DX results, then he changed his tune.

    amyrn129 - I'm all about silver linings, so congrats on the genetic testing being negative and also the fact that the tumor is small! Just wanted to let you know I opted for the lumpectomy followed by radiation instead of the masectomy, because for me I wanted to preserve my natural breasts (and nipple!) as much as possible, and did not want to deal with reconstruction which some on the forums have had to deal with complications from. Just wanted to let you know that radiation is not so bad... I'm 20 of 30 sessions through and seem to be skating through it with no side effects so far. Not that that's the case for everybody, but it's possible.

    PS - we have somewhat similar stories, I'm 43, also diagnosed with IDC, E+|P+|HER2-, discovered the lump in and did the surgery in September this year. What a ride it's been.

    Palesa2018 - I'm impressed that you went to work during radiation treatment! I'm also working through radiation, although I get to work from home as it's about an hour drive for me to get to the radiation clinic, so if I had to drive into work too I'd just be driving all day. Can I ask - when did you start Tamoxifen and how has it been for you? Did you start it immediately after radiation or did you wait a little bit for your body to recover before taking it?

    Hugs and healing to all!

  • Raysal
    Raysal Member Posts: 45
    edited November 2018

    PebblesV good to know I didnt realize that the oncotype gives you risk of recurrence for tamoxifen alone or with chemo. Will definitely make sure I get that.

    Anyone know if Thanksgiving is caused delays on oncotype results? My sample got sent twelve days ago from Europe. The doctor told me it takes 12 days for results but she hasn't received them yet. I'm getting more anxious each day!

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