Deciding the treatment
im 33 years old, 3 little kids, no family history of cancer.. I was diagnosed w/ dcis 8 days ago and inext day had and excisional biopsy. Everything removed plus clear margins, but it was comedo type with necrosis present which makes it grade 3. Im so scared and reading all the recurrency posibilities worries me a lot. Should i have a genetic test?? Does the mastectomy ceroes the chance of a cancer coming back? Im also scared that tamox change my life since im young!
My doctor recomended 16 sessions of radiation plus 5 years of tamo
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I feel like all DCIS is Grade 3–okay maybe not but I wouldn't let that alone worry you. Lumpectomy plus rads is a very standard treatment for that dx. You will be followed closely for five years (probably mammos every six months)—that should give you some comfort. There are lots of Tamoxifen threads here.
It’s hard not to let your mind go to dark places but you have an excellent prognosis. Try to focus on that.
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in answer to your mastectomy question: mastectomy has lower recurrence rate than lumpectomy + rads, but they both have the same overall survival rate. Having mastectomy may mean you don’t have to do rads. You’ll need to check with your dr. It’s a very personal decision. Some women are good with hypervigilance with mammograms/ultrasound/mri every 6 months while others are not. Some just want to deal with it once vs doing lumpectomy now and doing mastectomy later if it comes back. My advice is to to do your own research and come with pro/con lists for each, research reconstruction options including before & after photos and opt for the path that leaves you with a feeling of peace. If you choose mastectomy, know thatReconstruction options are advanced today and include traditional implants as well as natural tissue reconstruction where they take excess tummy tissue or hip tissue and build new breasts out of it.
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Please have the mastectomy I had DCIS non invasive but I went to 1 doctor and was told after doing testing that they didn't get it all. So I asked the doctor to remove the breast and she convinced my husband and mother to talk me into letting her try again, so I did what everyone asked me to do. Well a few days later another phone call from doctor telling me once again she didn't get it all. I refuse to go back to that doctor went to another doctor who also said she thought she could get it, nope once again told they didn't get it all. So I told them to remove it. The only problem is check out your plastic surgeon when doing the replacement sometimes you find out they don't care about you and don't treat you with respect.
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There is a lower recurrence rate if you have a mastectomy, but it can still happen. There will always be some breast tissue left behind. Overall survival rates are the same whatever you choose.
I chose a lumpectomy because I hated the idea of having no feeling in a reconstructed breast, and I would never have been happy going flat. I had to use a partial prosthetic for a while until I got reduction surgery to my good side, and I really hated removing the fake boob from my bra at night. But now I don't have to use one, I feel like my body is my own again.
Everyone is different, both in the way we feel about things, but also in the size and position of the DCIS relative to the size of your breast. Mine was in a fairly good location to give a good cosmetic outcome, but if it hadn't been, I would have had a mastectomy.
There are some really good threads about the pros and cons of mastectomy vs lumpectomy, different reconstruction options etc. In the end, you have to go with what feels right for you once you have all the information.
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thank you all, and wish you well on your own journey.
Ill will go with the genetic test to see if i have the Gen, if not i will go with rads+tamox. Exercise, juicing ans lots of greens.
If I do comenpositive, I will have to double think in mastectomy
Hopefully this never comes back and i can continue raising my little ones.
Thank you for your opinions.
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Hi. I also had DCIS grade 3. It was very small (3mm.) If was removed in January with clear margins. They want me to do 20 sessions of radiation and 5 years of Femera (I’m post menopause.) Has anyone out there not done the radiation and medication for a small DCIS and just checked (MRI and mammograms) every 6 months? I will be alternating between MRI’s and 3D mammograms. I’m suffering from a case of chronic fatigue syndrome and I know the treatments will be a set back for me. My bond density is not great either. Thanks girls.
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as far as I understand radiation+tamox refuces de chance of recurrence about 15%-20% , so you drop drom 30% probability to a 10 or 15%
But still, if you get it back you will know very quick for the check ups.
They also say the it reduces the chance of getting it back but does not affectbokbthe survival rates because in any case if you get it back the most probable is you will survive
Im on day 3 in tamox, so far so good. No changes yet..
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Hi EatPlants,
I have been struggling with whether or not to have radiation. My DCIS was 4mm (2mm taken during biopsy and 2mm found in pathology following a lumpectomy, with clean margins). I am post menopausal, and will be meeting with a medical oncologist next week. I am pretty sure I will start on hormonal meds.
But I can’t decide about getting full breast radiation. I talked to the radiology oncologist about my doubts, so she is ordering an oncotype dcis test to analyze the tumor genetics. I’m wondering what kind of score would make me go one way or the other.
I’m leaning toward not having radiation because it seems to me that the long-term side affects of radiation may outweigh the reduced probability of recurrence, and I have been told that a mastectomy is the only option for local recurrence if you have had radiation in that breast.
I can keep you informed about my decision and wish you the best in whatever you decide
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i just got mammo results and ended up with micro calcifications shown in the aame breast
The doctor told me if could be part of the same or it could be another dcis or even inavisve cancer.
I have to wait for the genetic testing results and also will have to get a new biopsy
Im reading a lot and thinking it could have been dcism.. i dont jnow and this is driving me crazy
Have someone gone trough something like this? Anything you can share would help me
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Hi Lew, and EatPlants, I am also seriously considering not doing radiation for small low grade DCIS after lumpectomy - age 65. It's left side so heart is a factor. Love to hear from anyone also not doing radiation or meds. thanks
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I just discovered this group.... I had DCIS in 2013, lumpectomy and dr said clear margins, no need for any radiation or meds so I have done nothing. However, some new spots of concern have shown up on recent mammos and could be nothing, but no way to know without a biopsy so I am faced with a decision- I have major panic disorder and can't tolerate sitting still in a clamped mammo machine for that long- but the alternative is either full surgery to see what it is or keep watching via mammo and hope it's OK.
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I had similar- DCIs in past, and new calcification spots on last 4 mammos (so in past 2 years) but I haven't had a biopsy yet and am deciding what to do since my great surgeon moved...now have to find new dr who I am trust and is patient and kind- a must for me. I saw a female dr, fairly young, last week and she was rude and pushy- so I won't go back. it's amazing how a dr in this field wouldn't be compassionate!
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I would rather have a breast surgeon who is a technical whiz than one who is compassionate. Leave compassion to the plastic surgeon and nurses and other members of the team.
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