October 2018 Surgery Support Group

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  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    thanks, Dani. I’m lucky to have lots of help. Pain from the ooph is no joke, but mostly only when moving.





  • Wised
    Wised Member Posts: 351
    edited October 2018

    🌟 Good for you, Star! 🌟

  • Dani444
    Dani444 Member Posts: 522
    edited October 2018

    Kat22 Best of luck with your surgery today!

  • sillyoldrabbit
    sillyoldrabbit Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2018

    Dani444 and Kat22, you're up to bat. It's been so encouraging seeing how well everyone has done. The odds are you will do just fine. Hoping for the best!

    star2017 - That's great that you're home and having minimal pain.

    DWiseley - Guess I'll be seeing you on the November rads board. Oh goodie, something new to look forward to, eh? I started using our rowing machine because my DH would nag and lecture if I didn't do some kind of aerobic exercise. I retaliate by nagging and lecturing about his overdosing on junk food.

    Anxiouslady - Congratulations on clear nodes. I also had a large, hard swollen lump in my armpit from the SNB. It's apparently a common phenomenon - a seroma. My surgeon warned about it before the procedure. It's supposed to take about a month to go away.

    Proud_Patriot - "downstage" is such a happy word! Glad you are doing well.

  • Dovely
    Dovely Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2018

    Hi everyone, still in hospital, surgery was yesterday morning. Went very well, except... they expected to do direct to implant but my skin was pretty unhappy from the tissue removal (And I'm very lean, so not much subcutaneous layer) that the PS has me in vac packs for two weeks so the skin can heal a bit, and then the implants will be placed. Nipples seem fine, she says. While I'm really disappointed I have to wait and do this again (ugh), I trust that she is making the right decision in order to have the best cosmetic outcome. BS said she got everything out, still waiting on pathology.

  • Kat22
    Kat22 Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2018

    Super Happy to report that the 3 nodes she removed today were CLEAR!!!! She removed more tissue than expected on the LX, but I don't even care. I take that as a sign that she was very thorough and I'm so optimistic that the pathology will come back with good news as well. How can it not? For those who have asked about "why chemo first?", well here's your answer! I am home, feeling great, pain is minimal/nonexistent. No words to describe this feeling.....

    Continued good thoughts to all :)

  • Kanona7795
    Kanona7795 Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2018

    Good morning all I hope everyone is recovering nicely.

    Anxiouslady - My surgery was the day after yours and I have the same pain and discomfort. There is some uncomfortable pressure on my chest but my pain is coming from my underarms.

    Well it looks like the Hyperbaric chamber they had me in for 10 days hasn't helped the blood supply to my right nipple. Had my follow up with PS yesterday hoping to get drains out and fill expanders. PS looked at me and said we need to go back into surgery and remove the right nipple and all the skin around it which is a large area. It is all dying and we don't want it to get worse. So they took one drain out and then it was off to pre admit for surgery on Monday. I'm so happy my doctors are very cautious and good but they are 3hrs away so having to continually make arrangements for my kids is getting difficult. My little one gets so upset every time I have to leave and my middle child just seems lost. I was just away from them for 5 days and now another 1-2 days and I still have 2 more surgeries after this one. Sorry for my rant I'm just emotionally drained


  • BluGene
    BluGene Member Posts: 44
    edited October 2018

    Hi everyone!

    I’m new, newly diagnosed. I have a partial mastectomy scheduled for Monday (29th). Has anyone done that so far this month? How was your recovery?

    Here’s to smooth surgeries and quick healing

  • MastectomySister
    MastectomySister Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2018

    kanona, I just wanted to say how sorry I am that you have to go back for more surgery, especially after spending so much time in the chamber and with your long drive etc. It is ok to feel overwhelmed or frustrated. God knows I do almost every day. But you will get through this and some day this will just be a distant memory. And remember you have all of us here. Vent away whenever you need! I’m a firm believer in letting it all out and then moving on to positive thoughts. Sometimes the only thing we can control in this crazy battle is our mental strength. Sending you hugs

  • apatient
    apatient Member Posts: 22
    edited October 2018

    apatient here with a couple updates. I have a large amount of tissue (excess fat, skin?) along the sides after my BMX. It feels like having a rolled up sock under each arm and is very uncomfortable. Saw PA yesterday and she seemed unable/unwilling to admit there was an issue. I see the plastic surgeon today. I don't think I can live with this extra tissue. One way or another it has to go.

    EDIT: The doctor says some of it is sweling that will go down, and she can also remove some during the replacement.

    I did find out my nodes are clear.

    Hang in there ladies. Thank you to everyone sharing their stories.

  • GAWarrior
    GAWarrior Member Posts: 398
    edited October 2018

    Hi all, I'm playing catch up a week after my BMX. I'm doing well, the stitches and drains are itchy and pulling, but I'm fine other than that. Pathology came back with no residual cancer remaining and none in the node they took! Yay! I hope everyone else is healing well. Good luck to DeeDee, Trshyla, and Nesha as you get ready for surgery.

    Bookworm14, my breasts are also lumpy and very creased. It's discouraging, but the PS says they will smooth out as he fills the TEs. I'm consoling myself with the fact that I still basically look like a wrinkled version of "me" and this could be back in the day when they didn't have the NS/SS options and everything would be flat and gone. So glad I didn't wake up to that. My breasts are totally numb, though - I'm wondering how much sensation I'll get back. I can understand your frustration at having to wait, especially since the surgeon's front desk scheduled you incorrectly and it ended up being in your lymph nodes, too. If it's any consolation, I was also told that even thought they don't see anything in the nodes on MRI/other imagining, it can be there. My PS refused to say I had no residual cancer left when I did my post-chemo MRI, for that reason, despite it not showing anything left. They don't truly know until the take the node/tumor bed and run pathology on them. It's definitely frustrating.

    Sillyoldrabbit, the SNB dye makes sense. I had the radioactive dye injected about 2.5 hours before surgery, I felt like there were about 5 injections, which is partly why it was so painful, although maybe the radiologist was simply pushing the plunger on the syringe several times.

    PurpleCat, I hope your muscle pain is better. I was given muscle relaxers which actually helped more than the pain meds did. If you're still having problems, maybe that would help?

    Anxiouslady, yes, I'm a week out from surgery and still sore and swollen in the SNB area, not to mention my breasts. Give it more time. Do you have a drain? I do and they're still getting quite a lot of fluid in them.

    Proud_Patriot, I was told that breast size may not be able to be the same because they also take out all the fat in the breast and the remaining skin is very thin. It can only hold a certain size/weight (my PS will reinforce with alloderm). They said to think of chicken skin and how thin it is on a breast and how it might be pushing things to put in a heavier, larger implant. I guess this isn't the same as breast augmentation where you can get pornstar boobs. It took me awhile to understand why not, so I hope this helps..


    Kanona, I am so sorry that you're facing more surgery, especially with how much it is upsetting your kids. Feel free to vent - sending big hugs to you!


    Wishing you all a good, pain free weekend.

  • PurpleCat
    PurpleCat Member Posts: 358
    edited October 2018

    Thanks GAWarrior. I called the surgeon's office today about the possible seroma and advised to try warm moist compresses to help move the fluid from the possible seroma. It feels somewhat better today, maybe because I'm just not doing much. Thanks for the muscle relaxant suggestion. I hadn't thought of that.

  • Dani444
    Dani444 Member Posts: 522
    edited October 2018

    Hey everyone! Hopefully everyone is doing well. I am home now after my UMX. I gotta say the pain was a lot worse than I expected that first night. And I was pretty nauseous from anesthesia. I was in there just over 4hrs. But they were able to do direct to implant so I was glad for that. I finally relented and took the pain meds so I could sleep. The pain I am having is really from under my arm and down my side. But it is definitely better than the first night 😳. I am currently propped up in my bed and hoping for some good sleep

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    Hi Dani,

    Sorry the pain has been bad. It definitely helped me to take the pain killers on schedule those first few days. Delaying and toughing it out made it really difficult.

    Wishing you the best.



  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    apatient,

    I have the same problem with the extra tissue under the arms. Mine is only on the left and the right is concave a bit. I do agree the PS does not really care...they told me that when the final implants are done then they will worry about symmetry. Kind of sucks to have that extra padding there as you end up holding your arms out funny!

    Dani444,

    Glad that you are through with surgery and were able to direct implant! Yeah the pain is rough the first couple of days, but it gets much better....the drains are what suck! Did they give you some stretches to do when you got home? Hope the recovery goes well!

    GAWarrior,

    Glad that the test came back so great! Yeah it is a big shock to see your breasts for the first time after surgery. While I have not really cried through the whole process, the first look in the mirror did...kinda brought home the fact that this is all real. I am really hoping that our doctors are telling us the truth about the final outcome...and my OCD is really kicking in on the uneven thing. But I do have to say they look a bit better with the other swelling going down! Just like you, I have quite a bit of numbness. Hopefully, that will get better for us both.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Dovely,

    Congrats on finishing your surgery even if they were not able to put in direct implants. My doctor had mentioned that when I first met with him. How are you handling the vacuum packs? Best wishes on your path results.

    Kanona,

    I am sorry that you are having to go back into surgery especially after just getting back home. I know it is tough to leave your children and that they miss you. I wish you all the best on these next surgeries. Also, vent away! I did it earlier and it helped a bunch!

    Kat22,

    Congratulations on the clear nodes! Bet that was a big relief.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Anxiouslady,

    Awesome that you negative nodes! Completely understand about the underarm soreness. The hospital sent in a therapist before I left and ga e me exercises to do...did they provide you with any of that info? I am two weeks out from my BMX and had 16 nodes removed and I still do not have full range burn it gets better daily. Underarm is still a bit swollen.Hope you're recovery goes smoothly.

    Star2017,

    Great that your surgery is completed, and that your pain level is manageable. I did not know that they could do both surgeries at one time. Would you recommend that over separating the surgeries? Just wondering because those are my next two surgeries I am scheduled for after treatment.

    Proud Patriot,

    Sorry that they still found cells, but it is great news that no other cells were found in the other nodes, and being downstaged! Sorry that you are not happy with the size of the expanders. My doctor did not tell me what they put in mine, but my natural size was a 40DDD so the smaller size is great on my back! My doctor recommended to not go larger than a C. I would think there would be some way to allow for larger implants during final implant or possibly doing fat grafting. Later to increase the size? I know some people have said it works well. Wer you happy with the TE besides the size issue such as smoothness or evenness?

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    Hey Bookworm,

    The gyn surgeon initially didn't want to do two together, but felt that since it was just that final implant step left for the PS to do, it was fine. I had my ovaries removed first, I think, and then they did the exchange to implant. Like I said, the exchange hasn't resulted in much pain or discomfort, but my core/abdomen has been really painful. Today is a little better though.

    I was glad to minimize the number of times I had to go under. I didn't do the mastectomies at the same time since I was pregnant when diagnosed. So I did the mx1, then another surgery for mx2 and the exchange on the first side, and then this surgery with the exchange on the second side and the oopherectomy.

    Let me know if you have any questions.



  • DeeDeeT
    DeeDeeT Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2018

    Hi everyone! Thank you for your prayers and kind thoughts during my lump/sln surgery yesterday! Everything went smoothly. I didn't think my dye injection was too bad. The wire procedure wasn't aweful, either, but they had a hard time with the mammogram afterwards. They started off telling me that they wouldn't need to compress very much, but then they couldn't get the picture they needed, so it got more and more rough. I ended up bleeding quite a bit and it was a little scary for me. It was better when I just didn't look.

    But, it didn't last too long, and then I was done. When they started my anesthesia, it was kind of funny. I was in pre-op, and the anesthesiologist had been asking me about my allergies and I am allergic to several antibiotics. So, she asked if one was okay and I told her it was and she said she was adding it to my line and it would probably sting a little. In my mind, I was just getting the antibiotic. Apparently, she gave me everything in that little injection. The next thing I remember, I was drinking a coke in recovery. Ha! I have no memory of going to surgery. None. My husband was smiling beside me and it was over. It was awesome!

    One other odd thing is that my throat is very sore. Not just a little sore. Very. They told me before surgery that they would intubate me and that it was standard, but WOW. My throat bothers me almost as much as the surgical site. But, I am really already not needing much pain meds. Ice is working better. I have loved ice packs on my surgical site and soup and juice for my throat. I woke up this morning wanting popsicles.

    I should receive my pathology results on Wednesday, if not sooner. I'm just so happy to have this behind me. I do know I'm moving on to radiation next month, so looking forward to keeping in touch with those of you continuing on to the Nov. rad board!


  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    deedeet, I was also surprised by how sore my throat was. Initially didn’t realize it was the breathing tube. It really hurts!


    I hope you recover soon. I’m sorry you had to do a mami on top of surgery!



  • Dovely
    Dovely Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2018

    I'm having a rough time right now, need to vent. I expected DTI but in surgary the docs decided to put me in this vaccum therapyfor two weeks because my skin wasn't happy an the right side and she wanted it and my nipple to get adequate blood flow. I totally trust their decision. It's uncomfortable as heck, combined with muscle tightness extreme in the upper chest. Also, I tried taking the Norco she gave me but that stuff is so strong and ended up giving me nausea and a bad headache. Switched to OTC Ibuprofen which is ok during the day but I wake up feeling so stiff with headache. I can't get comfortable at night. My sweet DH has been waiting on me hand and foot and we've got a thousand pillows and stuff, but it still sucks.

    Also, right now I'm completely flat. I look under the compression bra thing and I see them there, just deflated, under vaccum. It's weird. I just try to remember it's temperary but I have these moments of sadness at their loss. They used to be really nice ones when I was younger. I was a 32D. I always felt they were big for my more waif-like frame, but they had many admirers 😉, though I did enjoy when they shrunk after breastfeeding and gravity because I'm active and it was hard to find bras that fit me. I'm not devastated at the loss, but sad. Also I didn't expect to have a flat period.

    Nervous about pathology, haven't gotten it back yet. Doc says the nodes looked normal but no way to tell until biopsy. I am so scared of chemo. I'm so sensitive to drugs, I just don't know how I'll manage.

    I'm so pissed at this disease right now. Ugh. Sorry to be negative. It's a pendulum of emotions, as you all know.

    I hope you all are healing well and getting through this, and are on the upside of the emotional parts. Much love to you all,

    Dove

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    Hi Dove,


    I had hoped for direct to implant too on one side, but the PS was being cautious and decided against it in the OR.

    I also missed my boobs and was sad at their loss. I had finally become confident in my body, and realize now how much I used to take for granted about my beauty. The implants look nice, but they're not the same, and that takes some getting used to. I think people who have had DIEP seem to be able to get something closer to a natural look, but that surgery seemed like too much for me.

    Chemo was not as bad as I thought it would be, and I hope, if you do need it, it won't be too bad for you. I'm glad you have an awesome husband to support you. This will pass. I'm sorry to day has been rough.



  • Munmunmary
    Munmunmary Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2018

    I had bilateral mastectomy on Oct 8 with tissue expanders placed. I got 3/4 of my drains removed but ended up getting a fever last Saturday. The fever is now resolved and I am on 2 Antibiotics. Saw the PS on Thursday. He was hesitant to remove the last drain since the output was approximately 40mls. The drain color has improved and is looking back to “apple juice” looking color. PS said he would not remove the drain until we have 2 days of output of less than 30ml. Sadly I woke up today with already 30ml of output. Just feeling a little defeated right now. Monday would make it 3 weeks with the drain.

  • DeeDeeT
    DeeDeeT Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2018

    While were talking about sadness about our bodies right now, I'll just share that I've always been on the smaller size of things. I'm small everywhere. I need small needles for IVs. I wear small frame glasses. I'm 5'2, 113 lbs. I'm made peace with being a small person years ago. I opted to not get implants and be my natural self. (Let me just say, I would definitely consider them if I had a mastectomy and this was just my personal choice and honestly thought everyone just considered this a personal decision) My husband still adores me. So, its never been a problem for me. But, I have recently been blindsided by some unsolicited rude comments from hospital staff about my appearance.

    I actually was crying in preop about this yesterday. A professional doing one of the prep procedures on me told me she couldn't believe they were giving me a lumpectomy, because she didn't know what would be left. If she were me, she said she would have had both removed and sign up for "a new set of perky boobs."

    Seriously, she said this to me the morning of my surgery. I just laughed it off. When I was with her.

    But, it hurt me to the core. I mean, did she think I should remove a healthy breast because mine didn't fit her standard of what she thought was beautiful? Was she trying to make me question the decisions that my team of doctors had thoughtfully made to get me to that day? I'm still really upset today and also wondering if hospital staff has a habit of commenting about patients' appearances behind our backs. Have they been making fun of me? Cancer is brutal and this has been one of THE most humiliating experiences of my life. I don't want this person fired. I know she worked hard to get to where she is and I honestly think she was just chatting with me thoughtlessly But this person had two young interns working with her. I worry about their training. It shouldn't mean the end of her career. But, I think they should train their staff to be more sensitive. Sigh. So, I'm home now hurting a little, but honestly embarrassed more. I can't get this out of my head and can't seem to stop crying about this. I was peace with my body, but now I'm just so very sad. The only reason I'm sharing here is because this is an anonymous site. Maybe someone else has gone through this too and she won't feel so alone.

  • DeeDeeT
    DeeDeeT Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2018

    Munmunmary- Welcome!! I'm so sorry that you are still dealing with that drain! That has to be so hard. But, that's great news that your fever is under control. Hang in there, and thank you for keeping us posted!

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Dovely,

    I think this surgery, although we prepare, could end up being a bit of shock for us. Especially when TEs are involved! My doctor put me on Percot 5 and that worked much better for me than the Norco, maybe you could ask. Ah the good ole days when our breasts were admired! We will get that back once we have the final implants! I hope you are able to get your pain under control and best wishes for the report.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    DeeDeeT,

    Glad your surgery went well! Ah the anesthesia...I remember...nope I don’t! It is crazy how fast that stuff works and then you wake up feeling like you just closed your eyes! My throat was a bit sore that first night, but I brought Ricola throat drops to help. Use this time to eat what you crave, and good luck with the reports!

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Munmunmary,

    So sorry you have having to deal with those drains so long and then a fever on top of it. Did the doctor say why you are having so much output?

  • Munmunmary
    Munmunmary Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2018

    Bookworm14


    The drains were almost all clear. Almost 20mls per day, but then the fever came and the drain became cloudy with stuff in it. (Yuck) But now the drain is clear but more output! Funny thing is the swelling has come down significantly. My elbow can actually touch my side. So I have no clue. I think my PS was just waiting for the thevolume to decrease.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Munmunmary,

    Well I hope it gets better as quickly as possible for you. Sorry that it has been rough for you and I hope it gets better soon

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