Rash that comes and goes..IBC?
Hello everyone! I have been obsessively reading all the discussions on this fabulous site for the past 13 days. I am concerned I have IBC. Although I feel as though I can relate to some things, I also feel like I'm the only one with these symptoms.
On Nov 1. I started itching the side of my right breast. I itched like crazy for about 5 minutes. I itched so hard that I broke some blood vessels and made it really red. Right after I itched it, it was slightly raised. As the day went on, the rash started to fade and the itching stopped. A few days later, it started again. Same situation. This has been going on and off for the past 2 weeks. I have started to notice that I wake up with what looks like hives and that they are completely gone by mid day.
I went a substitue GYN a week ago and was told that it was nothing to worry about and that if it isn't better in 2 weeks to come back. He also told me that I am too young to have anything wrong (I am 30). I was clearly upset during the appointment so I appreciate him saying that to try and make me feel better but what is said just isn't true. Because I am such a Nervous Nelly, I made an appointment with my regular GYN. I also noticed that I started t have some pain. It isn't sharp or shooting. More of an ache that comes and goes. Sometimes it goes into my arm. My nipple has also been burning a little. There is not discharge, no nipple changes, no thick skin, etc. Anyway, my regular GYN was fabulous and listened to all my concerns and let me cry and suggested that we do a mammogram and and ultrasound to rule some things out. From all of the wonderful information I have gathered here, I know that I need a biopsy in order to have conclusive results. Should I insist on a biopsy? Can a dermatologist to the biopsy?
My questions are, if my rash shows up in the mornings and is completely gone by mid day...does that sound like IBC? I have read where a rash can come and go but I haven't read anything about it coming and going that rapidly. Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. I've been in hysterics for days. I am driving my husband completely bananas. I just don't know what to do.
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Hi Meago! I am sorry you are feeling all this anxiety. I am no expert on IBC, but I do know that it is one of the very rarest kinds and makes up only about, 1-5%of all diagnosed breast cancers. So the odds are very much in your favor for this not to be IBC. From what I have read, IBC isn't something, that comes and goes. It is a very fast moving cancer.There are some here who have been Dx with IBC and I am sure there will be someone along who may be able to calm your fears.
You've done everything right so far and your Doctor has been pro active by getting the tests done. I think if it were me, I wold be going to see a dermatologist, it does sound like it could be a skin issue. I think if a Dermatologist was concerned that it was not a skin issue, they would put you on the right track, for further investigation.
We all understand the fears you are feeling, let us know how you get on.
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No one here can tell you what , is going,on with your skin - we are not medical,staff that are actually seeing you.
IBC is rare - only between 1% ' 5% of all DXd types of BC. It is VERY aggressive and progresses rapidly, literally overnight often.
There are MANY possibilities as to what is going on with IBC being among the least likely. If everyone who comes here after deciding they were IBC because of having a 'rash', it would be the most common type of BC instead of rare. An appointment with a Dermatologist is probably in order for the skin issues. (
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Meago29, welcome to Breastcancer.org. We're sorry that you're dealing with this worry, but we're glad you found such a wonderful community for information and support.
Changes like this is your breast should always be checked, and we are glad your GYN is being responsive and suggested the mammo and ultrasound. Until you get your test done we hope that reading the articles Getting Your Test Results and Test Results and Medical Records will help you manage the anxiety. We know you're nervous, but just take a deep breath and take one step at a time.
Please let us know how it goes!
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Thank you everyone for responding.
My mammo was normal but the rash persisted. I went to breast specialist who was awful to me. She was short, interrupted me, spoke to me while she was standing in the doorway as I was laying topless and in my underwear on the table. She said she noticed some skin thickening but said it was from the rash. She said couldn't say for sure whether it was or was not IBC. I begged her to biopsy it as I cried and cried. She said 'what do you want me to biopsy...go to a dermatologist.' She then told me to come back in six weeks. I so badly wanted to say you need to treat me like you would want your daughter treated in a situation like this. It was awful. I immediately went to a dermatologist who did a punch biopsy. Thank goodness.
I am still waiting for the results and it is killing me. Since the biopsy, I had a reaction to the band aid which has caused a rash (in the perfect shape of a band aid lol) for the past week. My original rash has been coming and going. The past two days I have had hive looking red/pink welts where my rash has been. They come and then they go. I just don't know what to do. I've been in a panic for six weeks. My husband is the only one I can talk to but he has limited knowledge on the subject and he is just sick of me haha.
Can anyone help me? I'm not asking you to be a doctor or to diagnose me. I am just asking for an ear and a shoulder and maybe some wise words.
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Hi Mego.
This reply is sent to encourage your pursuit to understand your symptoms. It is my first post in the BC forum. I went with the tide of dismissal and I think I waited entirely too long to get pushy. I suspect the widely accepted view of IBC's rapid onset is a consequence of long term symptoms having gone unrecognized. I'm 55 and had similar symptoms, for how long I don't know other than years.
Infrequent itching and tingling on one nipple, sometime both, odd little rashes *around* my breasts and lymph node tenderness would come and go. The yellowish discharge was very slight, but the residue has always been visible. Through the years I mentioned the symptoms during my breast exams and all symptoms were mutually dismissed as minor skin irritations.
Thanksgiving morning while in the shower I felt my right nipple sting and it started bleeding. Blood was flowing from 4 ducts, a small rashy discoloration presented *on* the areola and on closer inspection I saw dimpling that really does look just like an orange peel.
If I were you, I'd start a journal to document the date and time you notice *anything* different. Keep telling your providers, but don't be surprised if it's dismissed. It might take longer than you expect to get your insurance to authorize more tests.
Take pictures on a regular schedule to create a baseline.
And take good pictures of each nipple *when* you notice a rash, tenderness, discoloration or a discharge.
My symptoms would appear and disappear as quickly as they presented and verbal descriptions were not enough to raise a concern for either me or my provider.
On hindsight, I realize now that the changes to my nipple and areola were subtle, steady and consistent.
Get the picture while the symptom is presenting and label it so you know it was taken with another symptom.
Save the pictures by date and store them on a secured micro SAN disk that can be used on your phone if you need to show them to your provider.
Try not to panic. This is still relatively new territory for researchers because it's so rare, and the online material clearly notes there is still much to learn.
Let's help. Just forge ahead and don't stop listening to your inner voice.
I'm tired. I think I waited too long and I guess I'll be finding that out soon.
Meanwhile, I'm documenting too.
Hope it helps someone else.
Hope this helps you.
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My questions are, if my rash shows up in the mornings and is completely gone by mid day...does that sound like IBC?
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The short answer is no, it doesn't sound like IBC. That's not to say it definitely isn't, but it doesn't fit the IBC pattern. I had IBC and once it started it only got worse. Yes, pursue a diagnosis, but don't put yourself in the IBC camp yet. If you do have IBC, there will be plenty of time to worry about it then.
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No rashes/redness that comes and goes does not sound like IBC. Once it presents, it's aggressive and rapid. Of course, anything is possible and needs to be followed up on. There is no 'One Size Fits All' when it comes to any of us. Rash/redness does not always present with all of us. I never had any rash/redness.
How did the Dermatology appt go and the path. report go?
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Thank ya'll for responding. The results came back as no cancer. She said it's dermatitis caused by an insect bite (how on Earth?) or a reaction to something.
Part of me is very relieved but I'm still worried. I know that probably sounds crazy. The punch biopsy she did was very small. What if it wasn't done in the right place? Or if it was too small of an area?
Today I have huge hives in the same spot. I'm going nuts.
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Hi Meago29, I am experiencing the exact same symptoms as you had in 2014. Now 4 years later, can you please tell me how is it going? Is it still there? What was the diagnosis. Please respond, as this undiagnosed rash is killing me with stress.
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Hi Jazz, and welcome to BC.org!
Latest activity of Meago in the forums was Dec 14, 2014, and her results came back as "no cancer", so she probably left the Community...
Keep in mind that most breast changes are not related to cancer. Anyway, is always good to get them checked out by a physician, so we would recommend you to meet with your doctor and see whats going on. Please, come back to let us know what you learn!
Best wishes,
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