Mourning or grieving the life we give up to fight cancer

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As you go through treatments, especially chemo, how does one mourn or grieve the life theygave up to fight cancer? And the giving up could've been so recent that you still miss it dearly but can't go back. I am grieving my hair, being able to wash it and do whatever I want with it. I am grieving my physical attributes such as my eyelashes and eyebrows, my clear skin. I am grieving the closeness with my husband. He is being wonderful , but I am not myself and am ashamed of what my body has turned into and it's hard for me to remain that close to him. I especially miss dressing up and going on dates with my husband. I am grieving my simple, care free life. I am grieving working. I am grieving grocery shopping. My new identity seems to be full time cancer patient.

I want to see if other people mourn losses during treatment.

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  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited October 2018

    Nisha, that will end. You will find that soon you will be putting cancer on the back burner. There is no reason to believe you won't recover and get back the things you miss.

    For me the emotional pain was the worst but I had reconstruction and it helped alot. I am not back to my old self but really pretty close.

    Hope you put treatment behind you soon, good luck.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited October 2018

    It is hard - to enter a new world, full of unexpected and difficult things. I remember being very sad about my lack of hair, my lack of energy, my new chest. It does get better.

    Try to think of this as for a season. You won't always be this way. And try to get out into life. I really think it helps.

  • JoE777
    JoE777 Member Posts: 628
    edited October 2018

    Nisha , I think you nailed the grief process that we all go through whether it is a full onslaught that you describe or in bits and pieces. I never grieved my DX in 2012 because I lost my son two weeks after I finished treatment, but had no time to grieve him because we broke up housekeeping and moved to be with our only son in Texas. As I was beginning to sort through our belongings of a lifetime and give away things no longer needed, I was DX with metastatic cancer. Just this month I'm experiencing what you describe. The things that meant so much to me have slipped away or faded into the background of cancer treatment. It takes time to face and resolve both old and new fears and feelings. Wish I had the answers but I'm muddling through myself. Jo
  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited October 2018

    JoE, so sorry to hear you lost your son. I have 2 grown sons and I can't even bear the thought of anything happing to them. I am coping with the loss of my father. I had no idea I would fall into a depression. He lived a long happy life but I feel such a deep sense of loss. I am an only child and my father was an only too. My parents were divorced many years ago but my mom feels the loss too. My cancer impact has been minimal compared to so many on BCO but it is significant to me.

  • Snickersmom
    Snickersmom Member Posts: 926
    edited October 2018

    Meow13 - I have learned that No cancer impact is minimal. You count no matter what the stage, diagnosis, prognosis, etc. We all do. We have all had to go to combat to fight this horrible disease. I had a BMX with no recon in May of last year. I bounced back into my life (or so I thought) that I never grieved the loss of the girls. Then last December, I did a crash and burn and am still trying to come to terms wth my loss. I am on Zoloft and seeing a therapist, who says I am suffering from PTS. I have finally been able to sit and write a little bit but I know I have a long way to go before I am healed.

    Misha - take the time to grieve. You have to find your new normal, and you will. And don't forget that your husband was and is still a scared to death as you are. But he knows he has to be strong for you. Don't be ashamed of your body. I went out and got a tattoo (my badge of courage) and it actually made me feel stronger. I am learning to wear my scars proudly and 95% of the time, I am flat. I hate the mastectomy bras; it isn't who I am anymore and I don't need them to feel normal. My breast cancer was what I got for my 70th birthday. I'm finally accepting that I got my life, and that was my gift.

    It does get easier. Give it time and give yourself time. It's not easy but youare strong and you can do this.

    Ann


  • KCMC
    KCMC Member Posts: 208
    edited October 2018

    I feel I lost over a year of my children lives. Both sons ages 11 and 13 at the time have special needs and depend on me when it comes to school etc. I had to put myself first, never really cared about my hair etc. they both felt the impact of that and having to deal with a mother who has cancer.

    It really hit home when my oldest now 14 at the beginning of this summer said to me that he hoped it wasn't going to be like last summer when I wasn't able to do much. Thank god I am better, energy level is low but I save most of my energy for them and hubby.

  • Beatmon
    Beatmon Member Posts: 1,562
    edited October 2018

    I really miss the old me. The retirement dreams I had have been squashed. I’m trying hard to stay alive but sometimes I wonder if it worth what I’m giving up and the pain I have dail

  • Manc
    Manc Member Posts: 66
    edited October 2018

    Hi i was diagnosed nearly two years ago now but have had the hardest time emotionally. I grieve still for my old life as I was so blessed carefree and happy. Id give anything to have a day back im so lucky to have wonderful hubby and children but I fear recurrence so much and last year fell into massive depression i grieve for that wasted time but onwards and upwards and I'm doing better every day and grateful for it .

  • LiveWellToday
    LiveWellToday Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2018

    I grieve my old life. I am just one month out from radiation (all nodes PMRT). I never stopped to process when I was making treatment decisions. Didn't realize what it would be like to not have breasts and do suffer consequences form radiation--like can't eat anything without my stomach burning. I live in regret of my decision. I have fallen into a depression. I used to love spending time with my kids 12 and 10 and now sometimes its challenging. I miss my relationship with my husband. I miss scuba diving on family vacations, playing softball with my kids, I am scared to do hot yoga now because of lymadema risk. I sit on my computer all day and iPhone instead of being with my family. My arm hurts. all my therapists and guides tell me to get a hold o fmy brain. Will myself out of depression. Exercise. But can't exercise if I can't eat.

  • Nisha517
    Nisha517 Member Posts: 88
    edited October 2018

    thank you everyone for your responses. And I am truly sorry for those who have lost loved ones.

    I am hoping that someday this will be all behind me, and life will resume as normal. Except with me taking the lessons from this experience- being a better person, helping people, not wasting any time on fighting or holding grudges, and overall enjoying life. As much as I am depressed now, I have to start thinking about the future and positive changes it’ll bring.

    It seems like a loooooong time to the end though!!

  • DATNY
    DATNY Member Posts: 358
    edited October 2018

    Nisha why don't you have Perjeta in your treatment? For your diagnosis this is standard of care. Should go with Herceptin for one full year.

  • Nisha517
    Nisha517 Member Posts: 88
    edited October 2018

    they do give me perjet

  • JoE777
    JoE777 Member Posts: 628
    edited October 2018

    Meow, The loss of a parent during such a dark period of your life is like having A huge bastion of stability and security for a child demolished. We are all still children when we reflect on parents who are still with us and those who have passed from this present life. Hoping good things for you today. Hugs and peace. J

  • DancingElizabeth
    DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
    edited October 2018

    Nisha - the beginning of this is the toughest. But, with every week of your treatment - you will be closer to the end. It seems to go by slow, but then before you know it - it is done. (I know that sounds like an overused cliche, but it’s true!!)

    Hugs!!!

  • Nisha517
    Nisha517 Member Posts: 88
    edited October 2018

    Elizabeth- yes it’s going by so slow. I’ve only completed 3 chemos and still have 3 left. I can’t help but look at the glass as half empty.

  • WC3
    WC3 Member Posts: 1,540
    edited October 2018

    Nisha517:

    My fertility/the prospects of having a family. The at least 15% drop in the chance that I will be alive in 10 years. My old diet...particularly my breakfast. I think I am going to miss sensation in my chest on account of the fact that numb body parts bother me.

  • buttonsmachine
    buttonsmachine Member Posts: 930
    edited February 2019

    Nisha, I'm right there with you. I feel the same way. I miss my old life and my real body every day. Cancer changed my perspective a lot: when other people complain about work, I think to myself "I wish I were well enough to work." When other people complain about their kids, I think to myself "I'll probably never be able to have kids now." The list goes on... Many people don't realize how much this disease impacts our lives.

    Every day I feel totally broken by what has happened, but somehow I carry on. What else can we do really? Cancer has wrecked many areas of my life, and I feel like I'm just standing in the rubble. But I want to live and have a meaningful life. I try to make the best of it. I started focusing on other areas of life I can still find meaning in. There are a few things the cancer hasn't taken from me yet, so I try to focus on those. It's a process.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited October 2018

    I have a friend in treatment right now who is always saying, "I cannot wait to get back to my old life." I've never had the heart to tell her that she will never go back. She will find out soon enough and begin the grieving process of losing her old life.

    I am now 7 years out. It takes a long time. When I was in year 3 post cancer, I had a really rough time. A friend recommended I call a former pastor of mine who was a cancer survivor who wasn't expected to live, but he did. The minute I started talking, he knew where I was in the grieving process of my old life.

    He told me that he figured out that he had to "Adapt and Adjust" and once he began that process, life got better. I have found that to be true!

    It takes time, energy and determination to Adapt and Adjust to your new life. But it does get better!

  • Manc
    Manc Member Posts: 66
    edited October 2018

    Thankyou for this Denise-G I'm just two years from diagnosis of an aggressive Grade three and some days i still grieve so much and I also get envious of others lives. I have a massive fear of recurrence and feel angry i was only 48 at diagnosis. I also still feel in shock some days and so sad that the last two years I've been through so much while others carried on their happy life A lot is centred on my youngest children though now 15 and 19 very close to and reliant on me i hate this threat over us Do you have any advice on how to Adapt and Adjust. I realise it is all individual but would appreciate any help greatly Thanks.

  • LiveWellToday
    LiveWellToday Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2018

    I read this thread several days ago and it stuck in my mind. I think it pushed something forward emotionally in me that has been helpful. The idea that we mourn our old lives suggests two things. First, that we are not the same post-treatment as after. Of course, some women continue their lives normally or at least as close to normal as it was. For the rest, its the "new normal". Second, "mourn" also allows me to feel sad. But one can't grieve forever (or should not). We have to move on. The lesson I am learning from this is to accept my new body (Tissue expanders on both breasts). I moved to qickly through diagnosis and treatment that I never got to mourn.

    So let's make a pack to grieve, accept and re-connect with our old selves as much as possible. I am 46--had a great job (which I hope to return to in Jan), managed two busy kids, a house, and a husband and groomed myself (hair, make up, dress). Now I spend my days in yoga pants and go from energy healer to acupuncture to therapist to doctor (for all my various symptoms). Yesterday, I had a great day when I went to work for a meeting.


    Tomorrow I am going to the OBGYN because they think I may have uterine cancer. I really hope not because I am just trying to get used to this "new normal"-- less active body, hard time breathing, pain, acid reflux, depression. Just 5 months ago I was a together over-achiever who was part of a power couple. Not so much anymore.

  • Pipandor
    Pipandor Member Posts: 157
    edited October 2018

    Thankfully, I have some savings and a small pension, because I NEVER want to go back to my old life. It was an endless string of obligations, responsibilities and stress. I lost half a breast, a year in treatment, and peace of mind forever, but I reclaimed the rest of my life.

    Cancer makes one thing pretty clear. None of us are here forever. A day when nothing hurts. Waking from a good night's sleep. A delicious meal in good company. Making something. A good book or movie. Going outside. I need nothing else. I have no other ambition than to enjoy every day.

  • Jadedjo
    Jadedjo Member Posts: 469
    edited October 2018

    I get it.

    For me I have lost everything to this cancer. Any small spark of hope and dreams that had been keeping me going the past five year of misery crumbled into dust the second I got the cancer diagnosis. I got frankenboobs I can't bear to look at, I have no family no kids to work through the misery of treatment and recovery I am utterly and completely alone.

    Ironically it didn't hit me until I was and still am recovering for the bmx with prepec implants. My inability to do normal everyday things,because it leave s me aching and activates the node area to feel like I am being stabbed with a knife twisting. Being unable to fend for myself even though I miraculously h e amazing arm mobility even at three weeks is   what made me decide no chemo no matter what the pathology says.  It's one thing when you have a support system that can be there when you need them. It's another when you got no one and have to deal with all of it by yourself and the health system just pats you on the head and pretty much says without actually verbally saying  it 

    "There there now dont bother us until death is knocking at your door otherwise your just a pain and a drain on the system"

    So ya other then surgery I'm done. I didn't have much of a life before this started due to quality of life draining chronic illnesses and now my quality of life is dead and buried. 

    As much as its existence sucked  I would give anything to go back to when I thought I was healthy and all those small sparks of hope for the future still existed.

    All I got now is ashes of what they used to be in a place full of darkness.


  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited October 2018

    I think it's important not to assume that others will respond to a breast cancer diagnosis and treatment in the same way, as everyone's experience is different. My life isn't exactly the same as it was because I now have large fake breasts where I used to have small real ones, but other than that I'm pretty much living the same life I had before. I'm single, so that does make a difference, and I didn't need chemo or radiation, so that helped as well. I'm still a single mom, still have a great career, still have the same level of overall health.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited October 2018

    Breast cancer is an insidious disease. I didn't allow myself to grieve much during the process. I kept my game face on for my kids especially my youngest son who was terrified. Several of his friends lost their mothers to cancer. I didn't even cry until I got my Oncotype score and dodged chemo because my score was low.

    It is a worn out cliche but time does help. I'm 7 years out and don't focus on it so much anymore. I do still get nervous before my annual mammo however and sometimes I worry that every ache and pain is a recurrence.

    Still I've come to terms with the unlucky card I was dealt. It's not like any of us have a choice. We certainly didn't ask for this.

    I know women including my sister who haven't been as fortunate because she had a local recurrence after 4 years two years ago. She has to have monthly shots. I've also lost a friend to BC and another just DX with Stage IV BC. It's very discouraging.

    Still determined to keep the faith.

    Diane

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited October 2018

    JJo, your comment that all you have left is ashes reminded me of a song by Crystal Lewis entitled Beauty for Ashes. Here's a link to the video and the lyrics follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDhlTzbyFRo

    He gives beauty for ashes
    Strength for fear
    Gladness for mourning
    Peace for despair
    He gives beauty for ashes
    Strength for fear
    Gladness for mourning
    Peace for despair

    When sorrow seems to surround you
    When suffering hangs heavy o'er your head
    Know that tomorrow brings
    Wholeness and healing
    God knows your need
    Just believe what He said

    He gives beauty for ashes
    Strength for fear
    Gladness for mourning
    Peace for despair

    When what you've done keeps you from moving on
    When fear wants to make itself at home in your heart
    Know that forgiveness brings
    Wholeness and healing
    God knows your need
    Just believe what He said

    He gives beauty for ashes
    Strength for fear
    Gladness for mourning
    Peace for despair

    https://genius.com/Crystal-lewis-beauty-for-ashes-lyrics

    Blessings!

  • Pipandor
    Pipandor Member Posts: 157
    edited November 2018

    Jaded, I hope that in time, your pain will get better and pleasures big and small will come back. Breaking out of solitude is tough and risky, but it beats the alternative. I hope you will find some good people, a group maybe, where you can contribute and make ties. Take care.

  • AngelsGal57
    AngelsGal57 Member Posts: 145
    edited January 2019

    Dear Pipandor,

    thank you for your words of encouragement and affirmation. Being thankful for each day and what it brings is a huge step forward for me. On the 7th of Feb, 2019 I find out if the last 8 rounds of treatment on Kadcyla have done their work and there is no cancer left. I am trusting God and not doubting the outcome of the PET scan tomorrow.

    Thank you for helping me see with the right perspective.

    AngelsGal57

  • AngelsGal57
    AngelsGal57 Member Posts: 145
    edited February 2019

    jjo;

    I am so sorry that you feel so lost and alone. Are there are people in your medical group that you can get into a group with to just talk and let out your feelings and frustrations? This site has been helpful for me to talk about all that is going on with others in the same situation.

    I hope that you can find some level of comfort and encouragement with us.

    Angelsgal57

  • kber
    kber Member Posts: 394
    edited February 2019

    I'm still in treatment and only a few months past my initial diagnosis.  I feel like I'm in full battle mode with no time to think, let alone grieve, but I know it's coming.  As it is, I hate the concessions I have to make to this disease.  I had to step back from my career and a promotion I'd been working towards for years.  Had to take a break from grad school.  I couldn't attend my grandfather's funeral, and now it looks like my treatment plan will interfere with being able to attend my son's college graduation.  I say I'd rather dance at his wedding than go to his graduation (not that he's engaged or even seriously dating anyone, so a wedding is a distant theoretical, but you get the point).  But knowing that, best case scenario, the post treatment, new normal shock is coming is, in itself, helpful.  Thank you for sharing your paths, painful as they are.  It provides a look into the future for those who are following you and your selflessness is very much appreciated.  Be blessed.

  • LoveFromPhilly
    LoveFromPhilly Member Posts: 1,308
    edited February 2019

    I cried and cried and cried my first year after diagnosis. Now I don’t cry as much and somehow, there has been some sort of settling in or acceptance of that this is the path that my life is on and it will be up and down and go sideways and backwards at times.

    I grieve the energy that I used to have - I was always going somewhere and out and about. Now I am much calmer and more of a hermit (which probably means I socialize on a much more “normal” level that most people are on).

    I try to remember that this diagnosis is simply a part of my story and doesn’t exist as the entire me. But I also can’t help but remember every time I look in the mirror at my breasts or side effects are heavier on one day more than another.

    I try to think about how amazing it is that with today’s medicine, we can live longer and with a much better QOL for the most part. My lifestyle is, if anything, healthier and I thankfully am currently able to work part time and take the other days to rest and relax. It’s like an early retirement!

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