sizing down after NSBMX with implants possible???

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gnoz8
gnoz8 Member Posts: 28
edited March 2020 in Breast Reconstruction

I am about 5 weeks out from nspbmx DTI with alloderm and I feel like my implants are too wide/large. I also hate how rubbery they feel. I'm 5'2", 130 lbs, was 32DD pre surgery. I have Mentor high profile 550ccs. What are my options if they don't feel better in a few months? Sizing down gets complicated with the nipples. My main PS said going down of any significance would place my breasts too far apart, but the other PS in the office said that sizing down would be an option for me and that he doesn't think I make a very good candidate for flap surgery (too little excess tissue/fat- he has done a lot of tissue transfers in the past but not now). I wonder if redoing it all with a flap would be an option since there wouldn't have to be as much tissue volume as implant volume (after implants I have a much fuller breast with upper pole volume now). I worry about my nipples not being able to be placed well with a redo or sizing down. I have been in initial contact with PRMA. Thinking about flying down for a consult. Would like to know what all of my options are in case this doesn't get better. I'm not sure if I'm okay with the DIEP scar or multiple scarring areas if they have to use multiple areas to harvest what I would need to keep my nipples in a good placement. I'm feeling trapped by it all and feeling like I will never be happy with my body again. I'm wondering if I have made a huge mistake. I'm getting depressed. My PS says to just wait for a few months until it all settles, but I am worried the amount of side boob (which is my main issue right now I think) isn't a lot of swelling and will remain. Anyone know about or have experience with sizing down after a nipple-sparing mastectomy?

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  • gnoz8
    gnoz8 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2018

    Also heard about some docs that will downsize the implants and fill in the lost volume area with large amount of fat (like a big grafting job). That may help make me feel better if it was at least squishy. Anyone heard of or had that done?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2018

    I have downsized after a NSBMX and used Inspira implants, which can be smaller volume, more narrow, but maintain forward projection due to their unique design. I did have fat grafting, but not in an all over augmenting fashion - more for smoothness and shaping. I did lose the side boob and have a more natural shape, but if you have too much upper pole fullness you might want to discuss a shaped implant as well to decrease that. Adding grafted fat to a smaller implant is dealing with an unknown as grafted fat can reabsorb and you may be left with rippling, but I can say that it is surprising, or was in my case, how little change there was to my skin with a smaller implant. It still feels unnatural, but you may find that you get used to the look and feel with time. I wouldn't do anything for at least 6 months to allow the final look of your current implants to occur - you still have swelling and the implants should drop a bit.

  • gnoz8
    gnoz8 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2018

    thanks! That’s comforting to know someone has done it before. I do have teardrop gummy implants. I have more upper pole fullness than I did previously, but it’s not too much though. It’s the side boob that I hate so much

  • gnoz8
    gnoz8 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2018

    Special K- what were your first implants? How long did you wait to exchange

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2018

    I have a complicated surgical history, so this is not a straightforward story. I also did not downsize because of aesthetics - it was a rather involuntary situation, but I am glad I have the implants I have now. From beginning to end this was over 6 years. I originally had NSBMX with sub-pec expanders. My sentinel node biopsy was clear in the OR during that surgery, but in the lab during the more thorough pathology cancer cells were found and I required ALND - mainly due to being Her2+. That surgery was scheduled for five weeks after the BMX. Within two weeks of the ALND I had extensive necrosis and my non-cancer side expander ruptured through my skin - not on the IMF incision, but on the front of the breast just under the nipple. That repair didn't hold, another was attempted, then my left expander was removed so I could start chemo. Six weeks post chemo, my left expander was replaced, I was filled slowly, and exchanged using smooth, round, high profile Mentors. I had fairly extensive fat-grafting a year later because I have a bony chest, had pretty big implants (650ccs), and a pretty severe step off, so the fat was to soften it and make things look more natural. I only had upper pole grafting as I did not need any additional size added to the implants themselves. That fat graft was very successful and things looked good aesthetically but those implants were quite large, and I did have side boob. Two years later I required repair to the cancer side dermal matrix - mine perforated, more in the right than left - and the perforation is unusual to have. During that bi-lateral repair surgery the previously necrotic area on the left tore open in three places, but was repaired at that time. The repair didn't hold, was attempted again swapping out the left implant with a 500cc so as to stress the skin less, but that didn't work either and the implant was later removed. I will say that dropping 150ccs in implant size did not displace the nipple like I assumed it would, nor did that side look appreciably different from the other side with a 650cc implant. The 500cc was a smooth, round, high profile Mentor also. Over the next 18 months I had two fat grafts to flat side to help with skin integrity and thickness, and another expander was then placed, filled, and I had exchange surgery to round Inspira implants 450ccs, bi-laterally. I can wear the same bras I wore with the larger implants, but I am a different shape - more natural looking. In order to downsize during that surgery on the cancer side I had a horizontal traditional mastectomy incision, and the right nipple was removed. This was not necessarily mandatory, but after this many surgeries I lacked nipple symmetry anyway. About 6 months later I had a fat graft to the left side, and the left nipple was removed as well.

    If you have teardrop implants I am surprised you have as much upper pole fullness, but I am wondering if some of that is swelling. They generally don’t drop as much as rounds due to their internal firmness but they will still change over the next several months enough that you shouldn’t make any decisions without knowing their final look. Most plastic surgeons would advise you to wait for this reason. Something else I would say as well is that every surgery you have can have an affect on nipple symmetry and location so you want to be sure you want to make a change if that is good now, and that if you do make a change your doc isproviding reasonable assurance that symmetry can be maintained.

  • gnoz8
    gnoz8 Member Posts: 28
    edited October 2018

    oh my!! What a looong road you’ve had!!! I’m sorry you’ve had so many complications. Hopefully it will be smooth sailing from here for you. Sounds like you are due for some smoothness.

    It’s so hard waiting to see what will happen. It makes me feel comfortable to always have a plan B....c...d....e. I am very happy about my nipple symmetry now. You make an excellent point about making sure before I start changing things. Could make the situation worse. I’ve started investigating other options should I decide I just hate these implants. I have started the consult process with NOLA and PRMA about possibly doing a hybrid flap/implant instead. If I’m going to touch them again, it will be for a warmer, softer breast. Hopefully I will come to adjust to these and not have any more surgeries.

  • hapa
    hapa Member Posts: 920
    edited October 2018

    wow SpecialK, your story is insane. You must be glad you're done with all that.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2018

    gnoz - yes, it is a bit of a surgical saga - I am a Murphy's Law patient - I am also allergic to adhesives and bandaging, and most antibiotics, so I am a challenge! All is well now though, so no worries!

    hapa - insane is the right word - I don't tell that story often because it will scare the pants off people, lol! It was a long run of bad luck, hopefully over now!

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited February 2020

    Ugh. I too, am allegic to the tape adhesives. I really understood the extrnt when they tried to remove the rubber-foam type adhesive wrapping that enveloped my new foobs. Layers of skin peeled right off with it.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited March 2020

    gnoz - Special's comment in her first answer is right on. You need to wait at least 6 months before considering revision - whatever it might be. Things inside your body are still healing & changing, and it's just too soon. Try not to be depressed, since you know you can have it fixed when your body is ready.

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