35 Yrs. Old & Diagnosed with IDC

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  • Britspeech
    Britspeech Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2018

    I was dx 8/3 with an 8mm idc. Hormone positive and her2 negative . MRI confirmed the single nodule. I had surgery 9/27 ( Lx) to remove node and sentinel nodes (2) I’m waiting on path results at this time. Oncotype will be ordered at that time base on results . Prior to surgery chemo was not on the table but oath results and oncotyoe results will determine . I have appt with radiation onco Friday to discuss starting 3x week’s of radiation tx. Good luck

    Sharon

  • Beaverntx
    Beaverntx Member Posts: 3,183
    edited September 2018

    Bookworm, I asked my BS about the possibility of stray cells and she assured me that there is no evidence of that occurring. If radiation is in your future you will need to heal from the surgery first so there is always more waiting! This whole process will either test our patience or teach us something about patience. Best wishes as you continue on our shared journey.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited October 2018

    Hi - I’m also new to all this and fairly young (43) to be going through all this (so I can understand how you feel). I’m still making some decisions of my own and like you researching a lot. I CAN share that I chose (and did) the lumpectomy over the mastectomy. Here were my reasons why:

    - I really cared about conserving my natural self (and breast!) if at all possible.

    - Lumpectomy was an option for me. Tumor was localized to one area.

    - Masectomy removes the whole breast and in most cases the nipple too. I prefer to conserve the nipple if possible (and did!).

    - Lumpectomy is a simpler post-op recovery. Masectomy requires overnight stays, a drain attached to your breast(s) after that you have to regularly remove fluid from, longer time to recover, greater potential side effects impacting your arm and chest muscles etc. Some women breeze through it, but if I didn’t HAVE to do that I didn’t want to.

    - Just personally I was all about preserving my natural self as much as possible. If I needed reconstruction I would do it, but lumpectomy provides hope that I may not need it (surgeon’s office showed me some very encouraging pictures of other women who did a lumpectomy and before / after looked the same, no reconstruction!). The thing with reconstruction is it needs to be maintained so count on a surgery every 10 years or so to maintain it, and I chose to avoid that if I could.

    - Survival rates are the same on both options, so it’s just a matter of personal preference.

    - I’m OK with radiation treatments needed after a lumpectomy. Will give me an excuse to work from home during the time it’s needed!

    That said, before I found out I could do a lumpectomy and was mentally preparing myself for a masectomy and reconstruction, I did walk up to my husband and teased, “So what do you want? This is your one time to choose!” (re: my breasts)

    I had a smooth lumpectomy surgery just over a week ago now. I checked in at 7am and by 2pm my husband was driving me home, it’s outpatient (much nicer for me, I prefer my cozy bedroom at home to a hospital bed). Only took a little ibuprofen the day of and day after my surgery - they prescribe a whole lot more painkillers and narco for you just in case and I didn’t need any of it. The first thing I did was look at my breast when I groggily woke up from surgery and was relieved to see it still there and still full! Have a scar that’s healing - other than that, happy to say that I will not need reconstruction, the breast is fine.

    I’ve spoken with women who have done both and ultimately people make their decisions for their own reasons (some who do the mastectomy like to have the peace of mind that the cancer is out and don’t want radiation, others like the chance for reconstruction) - everyone I’ve connected with has been satisfied with their decision, whether a lumpectomy or masectomy, including me. I wish you the best in making the right choice for you

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    I apologize on the delay in responding ladies, but I was WAY out in the country without cellphone coverage for a week and a half!

    Britspeech,

    Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, but this site is great. Very many of the ladies that post all over his site are very insightful. Hopefully, the results will provide some good news for you. Best wishes!

    Beaverntx,

    Thanks for posting. I think the wait is causing me more emotions than the actual diagnosis. I don’t know about you, but I feel I can handle this better when I have a game plan! Not to mention I can be impatient sometimes. Hope this can teach me some patience. I hope you are doing well in your journey.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    PebblesV,

    I did have a hard time trying to decide which route to go. I was not really attached to my girls, but my husband is! However, I did have my BRCA test come back positive so I made the decision to reduce my risk for myself and my family. Added benefit that I can decide how big or small I would like to be! Glad that you had such a positive experience and outcome with your surgery, and I hope that you continue to have great outcomes

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited October 2018

    @bookworm14 - sounds like you absolutely made the right decision for you, and it's true, you get the added benefit of choosing what you want! Have you completed your reconstruction yet? If not, best wishes for that!

    For me, the big complication is that they took out 2 lymph nodes and found cancer in 2 of the 2 lymph nodes. Suddenly I was put into a flurry of bone scans and CT scans and meeting with the oncologist who is pretty sure mine is a case where chemo is needed... I'm waiting for results of tests and Oncotype DX and also the genetics test, and this wait and still not knowing and a wariness of side effects if I have to go through chemo is driving me crazy...

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Well ladies, I had my bilateral mastectomy yesterday and went home today. Feeling pretty good considering all the cutting and removing that happened. I did end up getting tissue expanders placed that way I can have time to decide about how I would like to move forward with reconstruction. Unfortunately, they found a positive node and ended up removing 15 of them. Hopefully, I will just have that one! This definitely changes the way my next few months are going to go. I hope you all are doing well.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited October 2018

    glad you’re doing well, bookworm. Wishing you the best

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited October 2018

    @bookworm14 - glad you are doing well and the surgery went smoothly and you are on the road to recovery.

    One piece of advice that really helped me determine the right treatment path (and feel good about it) was to do the oncotype DX test and get your oncotype score. I knew to ask for it when I found other forums here with women who had similar cancers and also in a few lymph nodes and half of them had chemo and the other half didn’t. Whether they did or not was all based on their oncotype score - it’s a test they do on the tumor itself so you don’t need to do anything but ask for it.

    If you have a higher oncotype score (above 26) they usually recommend chemo as it’s been shown to reduce the risk of recurrence. If you’re oncotype is lower (18 or below) it actually has been shown that the hormone therapy is MORE effective than the chemo so they would not recommend chemo. If you’re intermediate (between 19-25) it’s up to you based on your own risk/benefit analysis. There are other women who have had oncotype scores of 24 or 26 that refused chemo.

    For me, my bone and CT scans came back clear (whew!) and my oncotype score is 21 which showed that I would have the exact same risk of recurrence whether I do chemo or not. So I am going to do the hormone therapy, no chemo, since in my case the chemo wouldn’t help and the oncologist said he would not introduce that extra toxicity of chemo if the results would be the same as hormone therapy alone. So I start radiation Monday.

    Good luck with your next steps and decisions! Hope this is helpful information to pass on.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited October 2018

    PebblesV, I didn't take the oncodx score by itself my score was 34 and I did not do the recommended chemo. I looked at the statistics and all parts of my pathology and said no.

    I am very glad I made the decision I did, little is known about er+ pr- cancer but so glad I chose anastrozole to reduce my recurrence risk. So far studies show it much more effective than tamoxifen for my cancer. Oncodx doesn't take that into consideration. Actually, you get very little information from oncodx on how the score was reached.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Thanks star2017! Hope you are doing well!

    PebblesV,

    That is great information, and thanks for taking the time to share. My MO seemed like due to my age if a node came back positive he wanted chemo. My surgeon said the Stage IIB would change some stuff so they have to review the case, but I will definitely speak to them about that additional test! Hope you are doing well.

    Meow13,

    We do all need to make our decisions based on how we feel. Sometimes that works out and sometimes it does not. I guess my thought is to be aggressive and if it does not help then I know I gave it my all. I did read where the PR- could be a bit harder to read for treatment. Hope everything is going well for you.

  • buttonsmachine
    buttonsmachine Member Posts: 930
    edited October 2018

    Bookworm14, that is exactly how I've made many of my treatment decisions. For me there is peace in knowing I did all I reasonably could. When I did have my local recurrence it was emotionally rough, but I was glad that I had done all the treatment I was supposed to do to prevent that. Otherwise I know I would have beaten myself up about it.

    It's true that there are no guarantees with this disease, no matter what we do. If my stats were different (if I were older, lower grade, etc.) I may have felt comfortable making a different decision.

    I hope you are recovering well from surgery, and best wishes to you.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    buttonsmachine,

    Thanks for posting. I'm doing much better...thanks for asking. I guess we can only do as much as we can, fight as hard as we can, and leave the rest in the Lord's hands. Hope you are well.

    Saw this quote this weekend that really hit home, and something I would like to remember in the coming months.

    “Strength grows in the moments when you think you cannot go on, but you keep going anyway.”

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Just really looked at my report. Shows macro metastatic in lymph node. Does this just mean it was found in the lymph nodes or something completely different. The BS never said anything with that wording, just 1 of 16 nodes were positive. Also, why are the mammary nodes not checked especially when the cancer is closest to those nodes and not the ones under the arm? Just some questions I have and I cannot get in to see my MO until Nov 12th so I am getting antsy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2018

    hi bookworm

    Just wanted to pop in and give you some encouragement. It was June of my 42 year when I was 1st dx'd. My daughter was born when I was your age. :)

    I had exactly the same dx as you except had loads of dcis with some spill in other breast so no choice but double mx and double axilla clearance.

    My surgeon said you really only get one good shot at it so hit it with everything you've got.

    You have done that.

    I had chemo and no rads due to double mast. Which might happen to you...

    I had one node involved with extra capsular spill which I think you also might have.

    I wish you a smooth journey through your next stage...It is not easy but it can also teach us a lot about ourselves (I have come to believe this) faith is an awesome and helpful friend to help you through.


  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    Astrid,

    Thanks for responding! Those reports are a bit hard to read and understand. I wish they could put it in terms that are easier for us to understand, and not freak out over. I ended up having the double mx due to the BRCA 2 gene, and to get rid of what could get cancer! I don’t really know about the overspill since my BS told me that my MO would have to go over it with me and I am starting to worry myself! I am trying to stay positive and have faith but it is hard sometimes.

    I have a 7 year old son..any words of advice on helping to him through this? He only knows that mommy may not feel too great the next few weeks. He knows husband PawPaw passed from cancer in 2017 so we don’t mention that word around him.

    Also, I saw that you had a few recurrences...did they find those through check ups or did you? Sorry for the questions, but I have so many going through my mind lately. Hope you are doing well with the LE. I have been reading up on that since my doctor did tell me that it is a complication I could have and that to watch for

  • buttonsmachine
    buttonsmachine Member Posts: 930
    edited October 2018

    Macrometastasis just means the cancer in the lymph node was bigger than 2mm, if I remember correctly. It's just a more technical way of saying there was a positive lymph node. There is also micrometastasis, which is smaller than the macrometastasis cutoff size. I had two positive nodes, one macro and one micro, but the micro one was close to being macro anyway, so... I figure I had two positive nodes.

    As for the internal mammary nodes, my understanding is that although cancer can spread there, that is not generally the first place it goes. Often those nodes are positive when there is much more significant regional spread.

    Hold on to your faith - this can be a hard road to walk sometimes, but you are never alone. Hugs.

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited October 2018

    buttonsmachine,

    Thanks for taking the time to provide a great explanation. I am trying to be positive as much as I can, but sometimes this stuff can hit you like a freight train and get you worried. I really wish the doctors would see you to go over this in person instead of just a phone call! Now we get all this information and have to wait 2-3 weeks to receive clarification from the Oncologist. Seems they would just have the Onco sit down and tell you the results and what it means instead of trying to figure out the terminology yourself.

    I do feel much better after your explanation, sincethat word “metastasis” is just such a rough word to see on the path reports, and makes it seem worse than it may be. Really would have just been happy with them wording it as just positive node! I was just worried for the mammary nodes as those were the closest one to the tumor and just were not mentioned. I guess the are located under the sternum so how to flow through the arm to get to it 🤔.

    Once again thanks for your insight and positivity... and I hope you continue to do well in your journey 😁

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    hi bookworm,


    I also had the macro note and I do believe it refers to your positive node and the size they found there ( I think whether it was more or less than one cm).


    Re kids: I told my then 7.5yo and 4yo that I had something growing inside me that wasn’t supposed to be there and the doctors were going to take it out. Then they were going to give me special medicine to make sure it never comes back, but that is a funny medicine that might make me tired, nauseous, and it will make my hair fall out. I honestly can’t remember if I used the c-word.

    My oldest is very sensitive and perceptive. She’s struggled a bit this past year worrying about me. My middle one has also been worried but is more easily distracted. It has helped to have a big support network of friends and family who will listen to their concerns but also play and talk, whatever they need.


    Wishing you all the best. Please let me know if I can help as you take your next steps.



  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2018

    star2017,

    Thanks for that information. I hope I explain this all to my son as well as it seems you did with your children!

  • Anx789
    Anx789 Member Posts: 168
    edited November 2018

    bookworm, I am 48 and have a 17 year old daughter who is away in college, she doesn’t have a clue what I’ve been going through. I don’t know how tell her because I don’t want her to worry specially when she’s far away and by herself.

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited November 2018

    bookworm, I’m sure I made mistakes, but we’re human and struggling and it’s okay for our kids to see us struggle and overcome hardship. The main thing I had to tell people around us is to let them be sad or worried if that’s how they felt, not to say “be brave for mama” or “don’t worry.”


    Anxiouslady, I’m sorry, that’s a tough one. When I read about how to handle this for younger kids, I read it was important not to lie or keep things from them because they’d be able to tell and it would increase their anxiety and stress. To tell them in simple, age-appropriate ways what we’re going through. Do you know anyone who could help you tell your daughter? I mean like a pediatrician, counselor, or therapist that can help you talk it through in a way that is appropriate for her age and circumstances?

  • Margot62
    Margot62 Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2019

    Hi Bookworm,


    I’m new to all of this, so your notes at the end of your post have me confused. We’re you dx with BC twice, and one time after mastectomy? I’m trying to learn and understand. It’s all confusing right now

  • Bookworm14
    Bookworm14 Member Posts: 176
    edited April 2019

    Margot62,

    First off, sorry to hear that you that you are having to learn about all of this mess. This site, and the members, have some great info. I know when I was first diagnosed I was on the site constantly reading up on what my life was about to look like! If you are asking about the personal history for each member below posts then this is how it goes for some of us. I was officially diagnosed as stage I in August based on mammograms, ultrasounds, PET/CT scans and biopsies. However, after the mastectomy was completed the diagnosis changed to stage II B..,, much larger tumor than the scans showed and lymph node involvement. Since I began the post prior to surgery I had the original diagnosis listed when I first became a member. You will see this quite a bit on others members listing at the bottom of comments. I hope this helps, and best wishes moving through this. Let us know if we can help with any questions you may have.

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