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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2018

    A lovely dinner of cold artichoke and vegan pesto. I needed a few non-meat meals today.

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  • cowgal
    cowgal Member Posts: 833
    edited September 2018

    Thanks JKL for the information on magnesium. I was on all three AIs and eventually had to be taken off of them. I ended up having to have both knees replaced from the damage. It is unbelievable how hard the treatment for breast cancer is on our bodies.

    Something that puzzles me when I look at AI Paleo recipes is how many of them contain things that I thought were off limits such as squash. I guess I would not have thought their would be so much difference in what is considered autoimmune recipes.


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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Introducing the 'late Egads007' :))))))))

    Hiya peeps! Finally got back home this past Monday and have been drowning in catch-up work ever since...ugggggggg. As my mother would say "if you play, you must pay" and oooooh boy am I paying!! I didn't dare log in and join you glorious gals, the work would still be sitting there if I had (that's how awesome y'all are!). So my plan is to get caught up with our lil' community over the weekend and get this sucker rolling staring Monday......Vegas day....the day of reckoning!! :))))) I've got so much to post you'll be sick of me! Yeah, I know, you don't even need to say ;)))

    Who's with me on a squeaky clean week staring on Monday? The summer party is officially over for this girl!

    HUGE hugs to y'all!!! Be back with tons o' fun very soon!!

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  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Welcome Back Egads! This thread is quite quiet when you are away. I am ready to start being squeaky clean right now, now if my will power will join me it could be doable. haha Looking forward to hearing all about your trip home!


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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2018

    Welcome back!

    I've now done 10 weeks on keto. Weight going up a little, but I'll bet it will drop again. I still have some estrogen so it's probably a post-menopausal period-related surge. Labs in 3 weeks; PCP in 4.

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  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Got a tasty chicken recipe to share with you today:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SzQgOaPU59SU_l...


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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Good day you gorgeous cave gals!!!

    It's Monday, you know what that means...…….

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    Don't say I don't think about y'all…..I delayed a trip into Sephora to take the pic above ;)))))))

    I've been away since what seems like 'the 12th of never' (for all you Donny Osmond fans, or Johnny Mathis if your memory stretches back that far), so I figure it's only fair to jump into the Vegas Confessional box and report of the bad 'doings' I was up to back in my hometown (where I left my heart….for all you Tony Bennett or Sinatra fans, 'cept it was Toronto, not San Fransisco).

    Ok, so during my two week 'vakay' I consumed a bar of Lindt sesame seed 60% chocolate and one bag of avocado oil chilli lime potato chips (I can hear the gasps ;)) While none of it was extraordinarily anti-paleo, it was processed, ultra carby, too much sugar(NOT paleo), and to be honest, made me feel a little like death warmed over, the day after the night before.

    This gal needs to be sticking to bacon wrapped dates for indulgences during the next round of vacation fun! I walked a million miles so my weight didn't suffer, but who-eee did I get a bad case of 'tamoxifen feet' ….no matter, all good now. My ultimate cheat will be posted later…..and I'm sure will get y'all smiling :)))))))))

    Ok, so roundup time……

    Inna (godda davida) – Dobroye utro and thank you for the amazing potato salad recipe!! It will certainly be going on my table soon, and I'll post pics. I LOL'd at your story regarding your daughter's boyfriend. I'm sure my son would fight peeps to the death over my meat sauce, as I would over my mum's roast pork! Also thanks for the info on Olivie! The salad I was asking about is much simpler….slices of potato, cucumber and onion floating in a vinegar/oil /water mix….and I think it may be German lol! I'll make it soon and post as well. Sounds like you're regaining yourself after all the nasty treatment…..how are you feeling now?

    Ksuze – Mashed caulli….oh yum….it's crazy how much can be done with it eh? Whenever I screw up and get my mash too gloopy, I find adding a tablespoon of coconut flour and blizting the heck out of it makes a stiffer mash. I'd never thought of adding prosciutto! Thank you, I think you've inspired an idea for a christmas mash that won't disappoint my white-potato-addicted MIL :))))) As for keto, well, I've made my thoughts known on this before. For certain people (diabetics, obese, epileptics and certain mental illnesses) it could be a healthy life long regime, but IMHO if you're fit, eating healthy and active, I have reservations not only about the restrictive bend/maintainability, but the possible long term effects on the body of continual ketosis (kidneys etc). I've done keto in the beginning or to lose weight, and it is very effective. I just couldn't take all the fat…..and I love fat….adore it. My intake now stands at 45-50%, which is good by me. Keep us posted on your progress (did you see a post hormone sure dip in weight?)….and your thoughts thus far.

    TwoH – Funny you should mention a slightly elevated LDL but higher HDL. The same happened to me at the last blood panel I had. The doc thinks tamoxifen may be a part of the problem and the fact that I decreased my cardio by 10-15 minutes per workout. We'll see at the next check…..I've increased back to 40 mins per workout again. Should be even more interesting to see what happens in the new year when I'm off tamox for a few months. I'll post. Awesome to read your weight inching down….*high 5*!!!!

    JunieBee – Crossing my fingers the blood thinners help with the clots and that you can move forward with the procedure. Whew, girl your positive attitude through all you've been through sure is inspirational! Hugs!!! Thanks so much for your recipe posts, I can't wait to try the brussels sprouts recipes…I heart sprouts! The link to grass fed beef is a great resource and will be added to the original post as soon as I get my act together….the last few months have been NUTS for me. I need a Kirbster in my life to hug on don't I? :))))))

    Cowgal – 48% of north american's are estimated to have a magnesium deficiency…..crazy eh? I'll be posting a magnesium tutorial this coming Thursday. I'll just say now that it made a HUGE impact on my sleep quality, but did little for leg cramps (only exercise obliterated that). For the time being avoid magnesium citrate, sulfate and chloride like the plague….its a major component in colonoscopy preps….yeah, so you don't want that on your tummy, unless you like diarrhea. Magnesium glycinate is the easiest and most beneficial on the tummy, so get reading your labels. More on this Thursday so stay tuned!

    JKL – Read up on my comment to Cowgal re: magnesium….some forms can cause awful problems like you experienced (as I did when I bought my first bottle of mag citrate…ugggg, I feel ya on that one!) So have you managed to keep your paleo convert on the straight and narrow? I'm still struggling with mine and it was a no-go for my new BIL's wife (more on that later, oy vey!) Collagen (our PMs)....I've been reading up and will tutorial it soon. Interesting stuff.....very interesting! Have you started taking yet?

    Sassy – Oh no you don't…..don't leave us. Sas, you're an IMPORTANT and integral part of this website. The info, support and love you spread around here is what BCO is all about. I'll be PM'ing you on this….and calling. Please reconsider – YOU ARE THE CAT'S MEOW!!! Oh, and let us get one thing straight….this thread was your brainchild and I wouldn't be typing this right now if not for you!!! So the stats are to YOUR CREDIT sweetie …….along with all the glorious women that make this lil' paleo community the awesome place it is.Hugs n' love darlin', a ton of it!! Try to stay with us!

    Vamp – The recipe looks delish enough to try tonight as I have chicken clucking in the fridge for me as I type (not literally lol). Started your clean week right? I did….two boiled eggs and salad for brekkie….lunch is whatever at this point but probably something thrown together. My car broke down and I'm almost out the door to get my poor baby over to the shop (god I love my car!) Keep the faith, we got this week by the tail babycakes!!!!


    HOLY COW THIS IS LONG :)))))))) For those who missed it……THE SUMMER PARTY IS OVER!!

    Time to put away the white shoes (labour day) and march onward to squeaky clean in a pair of Doc Martins :))))) …..christmas is coming and we need room to spare for the to-die-for-food coming our way. Join Vamp and I please in clean eating this week…..ready, set…..go!!!! Put down that ice cream....yes you!!! :)))))))))

    Light a candle for my beloved car.....that it is fixable and relatively inexpensive(ha ha)....we just paid for the plumbing!! ;)))))

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    VEGAS MONDAY PART II - My big fat overindulgent cheat - AKA The walk of shame.


    As promised I'm posting about my ultimate cheat while away on vakay. I thought it best to present in pictorial form…..it adds to the ambience of the occasion and should make you feel like you were right there with me….experiencing every dumb minute of it! ;)

    My gal pals back home met up for a very needed blow-off-some-steam- just-like-the-old-days dinner/dancing evening . You know, the kind of night that makes up for all those endless loads of laundry, floor washing, work stress, financial and child care woes, and let them take a back seat….at least for a few hours. The kind of night you gussy up......pay attention to the status of your eyebrows, spray perfume on.

    Being the staunch Paleo Cave Chick that I am, I insisted that we show some restraint in what we consumed, for the good of our health by hollering…..

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    Did they listen to me? No, they simply did this...……...

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    Such an amazing feeling when your BFFs take you seriously….not! :)))))

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    Responsible bunch that we are, we decided to take a cab........this is where the party immediately started….the laughing was non stop! We ended up at a gorgeous & trendy rooftop club. The evening was sultry……every star present in the sky....and the sky was the only thing that shut us up all evening, at least for a few minutes.

    We ordered finger foods, most of which I couldn't partake, but enjoyed looking at. My ultra supportive friends made sure to groan with delight while eating, being sure to point out how much I was missing…..gotta love dem' gals….buggers! :)))))) I was sure to tell them what was going to happen to their colon....just for revenge ;)

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    Once the music got rolling we hit the dance floor with a vengeance…..feeling that we looked like this…….

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    ……but the unfortunate reality was this………….

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    Now, I'M NOT MUCH OF A DRINKER, never have been and never will be. I can count how many drinks I've had this year on one hand. That said, the mood, the laughs and the dancing all made the frothy/creamy drinks go down well….oh so bad……

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    ......pretty soon I was feeling about as coordinated as this………

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    …...and this is the point that I switched over to sparkling water and continued to try to dance off the alcohol.

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    Suddenly, and out of nowhere, HE appeared. THAT GUY. You know THAT GUY…..he's in every club…..he leaves his house showered, after-shaved and already erect before paying the entrance fee to the club. His usual approach is………….

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    I would have had to have drank a barrel full to even consider talking to the dude, so I started dancing like…………….

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    ….. he thankfully disappeared into the crowd, on to a new victim.

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    After a few hours we were pooped & sweaty, but still laughing. Someone (*looking around innocently*) suggested we walk to the subway…such a beautiful night and I hadn't rode the subway in years (oops, gave myself away ;)) The gal pals agreed so off we marched down the street.....

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    The unfortunate reality...…….

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    Along the way one of the gal pals burst out with "Hey Egads…..sing that song you used to sing in high school!!" Liquor had loosened my resolve so I burst into a very loud and throaty "ROXXXXAAANNNNNE you don't have to turn on the red light, ROOOOOOXXXXAANNNNE"......I guess that I might have gotten into the spirit of Sting a tad on the loud side because……

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    So we...…….

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    …….and started to look for a cab to hail. Laughing to the point of tears during our wait we encountered two of Metro's finest driving their patch…..they took note…..

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    When they pulled over one of the gal pals was like……….

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    The nice policemen issued a 'how you girls doing tonight?' from their car. We all nodded and said 'fine, how are you officers?', all demure, ladylike.........and snickering. They asked if we'd been partaking in a few refreshments that evening. We all truthfully replied 'yes sir, a wee bit, but nothing over the top'.

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    Insanity took over the steering wheel of my mind and I proceeded to…….

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    The nice officers laughed and left satisfied that we were waiting on a cab, and that none of us was driving…….

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    Talk about relief..... Whew! I can't imagine getting arrested for drunk and disorderly and then having to explain myself to my son who I've lectured for years about the unhealthy evils of drinking....I wouldn't have lived it down! Not that any of us were disorderly...kinda. ;)

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    ….. finally seeing and hailing a cab I was astounded and how beautifully my makeup held up during the evening….

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    ..... and being that I was the most sober of the lot, it was up to me to make sure my dear friends got home safely….

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    ….and I saw to it that they arrived home in one piece………….

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    …..so after the last one was delivered safely to her bed, I returned to my hotel and slept like the dead.

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    Waking up wasn't pleasant...……

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    I'm happy to report I spent the next evening………..

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    So that was my ULTIMATE BIG FAT NON-PALEO CHEAT..... and I plan on NOT repeating for a very VERY looooooooong time, if ever again.

    Gotta' say…..I did have fun, so much fun……..and what the spirit of friendship can do for the soul is amazing, especially when that spirit has lasted over a quarter of a century. I miss my girls terribly and thank my lucky stars they call me friend!!!

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    Here's the kicker, the sad & pitiful kicker.......I only had 3 drinks over the course of the evening......what a lightweight eh???

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    ;))))))))))

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  • JKL2017
    JKL2017 Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2018

    Thanks, Egads, loved the story & the videos! What an awesome night out with your posse; girls nights out are the best! Did you have to sleep with one foot on the floor to keep the room from spinning? Glad we didn't need to start collecting bail money (anything we contribute can go towards your car repair instead). If you're gonna cheat, that's the way to do it!

    I'll join you & Vamp in clean eating this week. I'm trying lots of new recipes (including a double chocolate paleo cookie!) so I'm happily on the paleo train. See you at the gym!

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  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited September 2018

    Egads, you are sooooo funny! Love your posts!

    I am feeling ok, actually. Had my simulation session today. Rads will start on October 8. Started PT for the cord that suddenly appeared under my arm out of nowhere. And I was doing arm exercises 3 times a day! Because of this darn cord simulation was very uncomfortable. But at least it’s done. Onward to the next treatment I go

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  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Oh Egads how I have missed those witty posts, so glad to have you back! 3 drinks, were they shots? Lol. I am cheap like that too, not much of a drinker either. I would rather eat my calories and not feel crappy the next day or that night.

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  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited September 2018

    Egads I would say those drinks were worth it. Nothing like a good tome with your girls. Enjoyed your post. I am the same lightweight. DH loves to tell the story of how I was lying on the floor spinning after two ddrinks.

    As fall comes, I am in dangerous territory with caramel apples, pumpkin pecan ice cream, pumpkin pie, apple cider donuts, apple pie, pumpkin spice lattes. Give me strength.

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Morning Cave Chicks!!!

    JKL - LOL@ foot on the floor.....I wasn't at that point thankfully, but have been in the past. I'm so glad that none of the girls were rooming with me. I just know those smartasses would have done something like this:

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    JKL, your passion for paleo is awesome and always brings a huge smile to my face!! Be sure to share that cookie recipe, and the others please! Omg girlfriend, I wish you were a member at my gym....we'd wear out the equipment LOL!! See ya there fo' sho'!!

    Inna (godda davida) - I'm so sorry to read about your cording! The PT resolved it? I don't know much about it (I lucked out), is it a continuing condition? Onwards to rads! How many sessions? keep us posted.....almost there hun! I have to say your writing has so much energy now that you've finished chemo.....*high 5*. Glad you got a chuckle out of the drunk post :)))))

    Vamp - LOL@ pic...now THAT is a drink! I had 3 frothy coconut daiquiris.....not that big really....

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    TwoH - Thank god I'm not alone in the 2-3 drink limit LOL....oh it was such a good time, better than in the teens.....got up to no good and wasn't suffering acne :)))))) Ahhhhhh yes....it's pumpkin, spice n' everything nice season. Hang in, there is paleo for that....tons of it, so no need to suffer.

    We'll start you off with this starbucks duplicate latte:

    https://againstallgrain.com/2017/10/18/paleo-pumpkin-spice-latte-recipe/

    Just don't drink it in the sizes Vamp & I have been drinking :)))))))

    So YAY.....clean week has 3 of us now....JKL, Vamp and myself....I'm betting TwoH is onboard.....join us kids!

    and now...………………………………...

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    TWO CENT TUESDAY – The follow up

    **LENGTH OF POST WARNING**May cause drowsiness, don't operate heavy machinery!

    A while back I posted all about my caveman's DNA test kit turning up an unexpected big brother.I'd like to thank everyone who posted back with their thoughts, stories and the great advice on whether to pass the info along to my man's aging mother. We didn't…..which seemed to be the consensus here as well as on my end.

    I'm happy to report that we met my new BIL during the first week of vacation.Of average height, dark hair and eyes….he is a quiet and rather shy man. The only physical resemblance I saw between BIL and my cavedude was in the nose, hands and arms. My cavedude saw body language that spoke of their father. My cavedude is very much like the BIL with his quiet demeanour, and not surprisingy, his wife is very much like myself….louder, more gregarious….we got along like a house on fire. My new nephew-in-law and girlfriend were there as well….again, wonderful, WONDERFUL people. What a family…..wow….they were amazingly fun, kind and generous (made us a HUGE paleo BBQ) after having invited us into their home, sight unseen. We found new family….real family….what a blessing.

    As it would turn out my BIL's mum had not 5 but 8 children….most by different fathers.She raised these children dirt poor (during the 50s, no social programs) and he relayed his very sad story of growing up in a garage with only a small wood stove for heat and to cook on. Some evidence points to the fact that she may have been 'in the game' and had to sell 'favours' to keep the kids fed. In his young teen years there were a series of bad marriages, alcoholism and neglect. After having told us this sad information you could have heard a pin drop. He retreated from the table in an almost violent jump from the kitchen table to tend the BBQ…..the look in his eyes shattered my heart. The emotional pain, the far off look all told me he was re-living it, re-living the anguish and embarrassment. He was also probably struggling with the fact that my cavedude had earlier relayed what a good father they had, and that if he'd known there was a child, he would have taken steps to see him raised properly.The man was mentally fighting himself. He knew it wasn't anyone's fault, but struggled with the unfairness of his situation in childhood. I wanted to hug him but was afraid he'd break. After returning to us he said "she did the best she knew how….I guess that counts".That statement had me making a mad dash for the bathroom to wipe the tears away that I could no longer hold back.

    Dinner saved the day. We chatted, laughed and got to know each other...the BIL & cavedude intently looking for similarities with the father they shared. The talk turned to how their parents may have hooked up way back in 1950. That was when my man dropped the bombshell.He said, and I quote, "after returning from the war and moving to Toronto, Dad worked as a milkman". Every pair of eyes at the table bulged in shock…..and then we laughed….hard. The BIL laughed so hard his face turned purple. He said "oh god, after all this time I come to find out my father was the milkman, I'm a f*&king cliche!!" Instead of letting the news hurt his heart further this wonderful man decided to turn to humour…..another similarity with my cavedude.I had NO CLUE my deceased father-in-law was a milkman. My man is notorious for leaving out details….this time it bit him on the behind :)))))The evening was glorious. We parted with hugs, plans to meet again soon and warm hearts. Life is good.

    So the sticking point…….my cavedude's siblings (5 of them) were sent text and email pics of their new half brother. Nada. Zilch. Zero reaction….no reply. A few days later, and after my man and his new Bro talked on the phone for hours (like two old ladies), we sent out the BILs contact info and told them he would love to hear from them soon. He is now constantly asking how the family is reacting to him. This quiet and reserved man has gotten used to the idea of real family and is getting excited at the prospect of getting to know them all. Still no reaction from the family…..my Hubs then texted 'did anyone get my texts and emails?" Then the excuses rolled in……

    • I'm so busyI can't contact him for at least a month (but had time to call us 4 times)
    • I'm so tired from work I'll contact him in a few weeks (then went on to tell about her plans to use her breadmaker)
    • I'm up to my neck with laundry (yeah.)
    • I have to go sign the lease on my daughter's apartment(and doesn't know when she'll have time)
    • Still no reply from last sister.

    Now, I understand that everyone has the right to feel the way they do in this situation. Some may not want anything to do with their new brother, I honestly and completely get that ….but where is the honesty? Why have us relay to the new Bro that they are busy…..too busy to put PRIORITIES first…..put family first? What message does this send to this man that suffered family neglect (from the mum and his siblings on his side too) and didn't have the benefits of good parenting, that by the grace of god, they all had? Will giving the BIL these excuses lead to him holding out false hope that he may hear from them….or that he may assume they actually are interested (trust me, they aren't).Geeze, a simple 'hello, I'm your half-sister' would suffice wouldn't it? Or even "I'm sorry but I'm not interested because I simply cannot deal with the news"…..at least that is honest, in a cruel to be kind, rip the band-aid off quick way. Instead they are choosing to run and hide under rocks. Geeze.

    My heart goes out to my BIL. In the last 15 years these people have dealt with me in much the same manner. Arms length…..sometimes outright rude (oh the stories I could tell!). I've bent over backwards trying to fuse family together, and as of last year, gave up. They don't want it, and that's really OK…really. I just wish they hadn't led me down the 'usual' garden path, acting like they were interested. What has my feathers ruffled is that they're pulling the 'usual' on a man that doesn't need a repeat of neglect. I realize I can't save the world, that we're all adults and that this is on them…..it's just so wrong IMHO.It's their loss…..very much their loss.

    So what say y'all? If BIL asks why they aren't contacting him would you diplomatically tell the truth?

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  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited September 2018

    Oh, Egads! I almost cried myself when I read your post. True, tears are not far away these days, but still... Don’t tell your BIL the truth. He’s been neglected during the formative years, so I think the truth will make him very sad. Maybe you can tell him the other brothers and a sister are just waiting for a good time to get in touch. Feeble excuse, I know, but at least it’s something.
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  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited September 2018

    This morning the fridge broke in our cave, so right now I am organizing Operation Save the Food and relocating everything to the secondary fridge in the basement. That basement fridge is a marvel. The unnamed cheap GE model was bought in 1998 (in the XX century!), survived the move from Brooklyn, NY to NJ in 2000, and has not been defrosted or plugged off for the past 18 years. NOTHING happens to this baby! On the other end of the spectrum is the top grade GE Profile piece of shit we bought in 2003 because it was touted as the best of the best. It already broke 3 times and was repaired because we had an extended warranty. 7 years ago we stopped renewing it, because, you know, what's the point? Nothing is made well anymore. I was thinking about buying a pomsky puppy, but now I'll be buying a fridge instead.

    I mean, consider the trade off. I get to have this:

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    Instead of this:

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    Maybe refrigerators are overrated? I need to get on the diet anyway... The puppy, on the other hand, is adorable. Unfortunately itcosts more than a fridge 🤣


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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Inna (godda davida) - My cavedude basically told the BIL exactly what you said, that they are busy......thing is, as time goes by how much more will he be hurt when they never contact him? it's like a slow death. They did this to me and not only did I feel the burn of disappointment, but was left with frustrated resentment over having been 'fooled' for so long. *sigh* Maybe if they simply wrote him "I need time to process and wrap my head around having a new unexpected brother" would be helpful....that is, as long as they eventually come clean. Whew....the situation sucks doesn't it?

    LOL@ puppy vs fridge!! I'd take the puppy and move the basement fridge upstairs! It's SO TRUE, appliances are built to break these days. There was an interesting W5 (Canadian news doc series) on this very subject. Seems the fancier the appliance the more (and more expensive) the fixes are.....and it's life is half of what they used to make. My mother's dryer finally conked out after 27 years (27!!) of service. Her new dryer broke in 3. Get the puppy! LOL!!!!

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  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Egads - I also almost cried at your post and what dear BIL has endured. IMO I don't think you should lie to him about how the others are taking the news, then you are no better than they are. With your words I know that you can find an easy way to tell him that this is new to them and they are unsure of how this news makes them feel.

    Inna - Although that puppy is absolutely adorable, if you keep checking the local shelters I bet you will find one that will win over your heart. I'd like to rid my house of certain foods, but the family would be very angry with me. lol

    I did not and have not got on track with eating right. I am in pain, I am depressed, I am frustrated and I can't seem to close my mouth after dinner! There's always today....

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  • JKL2017
    JKL2017 Member Posts: 437
    edited January 2020

    Such a sad story, Egads. Brought tears to my eyes, too. It's wonderful that your new BIL became the nice person he is, considering his childhood. I think he'll make a great addition to your family. Your question is a difficult one. I would be tempted to let him know that he's better off NOT hearing from your DH's sibs. Tell him that he's already bonded with the best of the bunch & that further forays into his family will likely disappoint him as much as they've disappointed you. (Although I might not add that last phrase.) Just say & do whatever feels most comfortable to the two of you. I'm sure that you will be kind & that's what's important. On a personal note, I've always believed that we create the families we want/need & that they don't have to share our blood.

    Inna, I understand your frustration with your fancy fridge! We also replaced a GE Profile (after previous repairs & less than 10 years service) & I will never buy another GE appliance! My daughter has a 1948 fridge (it's older than I am!) in her Colorado cabin & it NEVER has problems. Current refrigerators seem capable of doing everything but working! I'd be tempted to pick the puppy over the fridge, too! (So cute - with the most gorgeous eyes!) BTW, I too, had cording after surgery. My LEPT broke up one cord & I took care of a second one with exercise. I still have a third, stubborn, one that stretches from my armpit to my lumpectomy cavity. It doesn't hurt or limit my range of motion so I just ignore it.

    Frothy, coconut daiquiris sound good, although I'm more of a margerita girl. I love tequila (although it's a distant memory since my BC diagnosis). Probably a good thing that I don't often drink it since, as the song goes, tequila makes her clothes fall off (& NO ONE wants to see my almost-69 year old body in that state!).

    Junie, hope all is well with you! Vamp, sorry you're hurting. What can we do to help? And a big Hi to all the other cave chicks (Pi-Xi, where are you?)!

    Edited to fix embarrassing misspellings

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  • JKL2017
    JKL2017 Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2018

    BTW, Egads, I LOLed at the saran wrap cocoon! It looked like something my crazier friends would have done during our misspent youth!

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  • Jadedjo
    Jadedjo Member Posts: 469
    edited September 2018

    Egads007 

    Your GIF filled  Vegas post made me laugh. Something I'm not doing much of these days. the parrots are so me at a bar/club without even a drop of booze in me which made me laugh again.

    Just wanted to thank you for it.

    Blessed be.

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  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited September 2018

    Ok ladies I did it! Got through day one and now here we are onto day two. Yesterday, although may have been a tad bit carby, I am hoping the exercise will balance that out, I ate nothing but approved Primal/Paleo foods! No Doritos for this girl. I am determined to get back on track and loose this pain! Thankfully I did not gain any inches in my month long Vegas trip!

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Howdy peeps!!

    Good golly Miss Molly...what a day!! Our regularly scheduled Workout Wednesday post has been 86'd due to unforeseen circumstances that are DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!!! I'll do my best to slide it in by the end of the day. Ever have tears of frustration spring to your eyes? ARRRGGGGG!! pardon my outburst. Deep breaths, control, yoga pose, ooooooommmmmmmmm :))))

    JKL - re: misspent youth...do you remember the peanut butter and cheerio on the nose trick? Placing the hand of the passed out person in cold water? LOL....those were the days....and probably why I have a Peter Pan mantra going on ;))))) btw darlin...how's the recovery going? Update please!

    Jade - hiya hun!! Glad you got a laugh! How goes the struggle? Any relief from services yet??

    Vamp - don't be so shy...tell em'!!! You've made HUGE progress and deserve the Paleo of the Month Award!! Big congrats hugs!! You are SO rocking this here schtuff!!

    I'll echo JKL.......Ksuze, Pixidust, MAP, Shazzzzza, where for art thou???

    Hopeful that the workout gets posted......

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  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited September 2018

    I found a Zumba dance party on Amazon Prime and happily danced with Beto Perez for an hour! Love Zumba

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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2018

    Okay, I can't figure out what this means: "(did you see a post hormone sure dip in weight?)"

    It's start of term so I've been finishing summer projects, writing syllabi, and getting the classes going. Not a lot of down time.

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  • Jadedjo
    Jadedjo Member Posts: 469
    edited September 2018

    Egads007 

    Thanks.

    Nope still in limbo while everybody gets their crap together and figures things out , I just hope they have it together by the surgery date.


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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Inna (godda davida) - Nothing like Zumba to get the blood boiling...love it too. I'll be checking out your vid on Prime tomorrow morning.....maybe even waking the household up :)))))))

    KSuze - My apologies for not proofing my question to you....it should have read "did you see a dip in your weight after your post-menopausal period-related surge? (per your last post). Seems you're a teacher.....Coolio! What do you teach? I'm assuming Language. Let us know if you're ok with divulging.

    Jade - What happened to your long post? I didn't get a chance to read it! I'm sorry things are still rough! Surgery date in place?

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    My apologies to all for a very late entry on.....

    WORKOUT WEDNESDAY - Oh my achin' shoulder!

    Dedicated to our amazing Cave Chick Vamp….and her lovely, yet aching shoulders.

    Shoulder impingement, frozen shoulder, sore shoulders……many of us suffer from shoulder woes, especially after surgery. I personally had shoulder and tendon probs long before cancer, and suffered even worse mobility issues after treatment. Exercise cured my woes.The trick is to heal before even attempting to strengthen our upper body. Jumping right into weight training might have you on the fast track to PT, or worse yet, lymphedema , and in a lot of pain. Not good.

    Baby steps. Limber up, do stretches and get your shoulder pain under control before moving on into strength training/lifting (either body weight or heavier).

    The series of stretches in the following vid are a great way to build strength and increase mobility, post mastectomy (7 weeks post-op with BS&MO approval) or ANY time you may be suffering shoulder issues (injury, over use, repetitive strain injury).

    Last year I completely messed up my wrist/shoulder by opening a jar of pickles….yeah. Not bench pressing at the gym….pickles. Geeze. Anyhoodle, this vid had me out of pain, shoulder mobility back, and put me in the gym within1-2 weeks. I was able to start light weights and soon up to my usual levels in 3-4 weeks total. I use this vid often, highly recommend.

    They work!!…..check it out & give em' a try:


    Back on track? Try these with bodyweight, light or heavy weights to strengthen shoulders and prevent future injuries:

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  • Jadedjo
    Jadedjo Member Posts: 469
    edited September 2018

    Egads007 

    Thanks. Sorry about that.

    I've been told that i'm too negative and am wearing people down with my attitude and I should be grateful for the help and suggestions I've been given (I am, so if I haven't stressed that I'm very appreciative and grateful to anybody wondering) and have decided for sure to no longer share anything other then diagnosis updates. i deleted some stuff I had included in the response post to you. It wasn't important just a really nice thing that happened in this nightmare.

    I've decided to keep my fingers off my phone keyboard, my mouth mostly shut  and my issues mostly to myself, sadly I shared too much again in my response to replies so will probably have to go do another delete but not today.im too tired and too sad today.

    Surgery is coming up quickly (faster then I thought it would after getting final set  date last week) in October,won't give exact date due to how public this forum is but it's somewhere in the first two weeks so that should tell you how fast being its almost end of month.  I'm a big planner I want things done so I can relax the final days before. I'm feeling overwhelmed due to bureaucracy delays that are costing me precious time to cover all the uh oh's that will pop up unexpectedly as it gets closer.and there will be uh oh's, there are always uh oh's.

    Creating my in case of my death Will tonight so nurse can witness it Friday and have that done and over with and sent off to the chosen administrator of my pathetic probably in the red estate.should have done it awhile ago but I didn't know I needed a witness I was just going to write a letter. Just sharing that in case someone was planning to do the same.you apparently need a witness to make it legal.

    Yep overshared again *sigh*

    I really got to stop that.

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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2018

    Ah. No, the weight went up but not back down. Functionally no weight loss this month.

    For the most part I train future counselors, and I also have some undergraduate social sciences classes. The program where I taught classes in HIV and viral hepatitis closed, so I'm still looking for somewhere to do that.

    Jadedjo, I have no problem with whatever you want to say about your life in this thread!

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  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited September 2018

    Jade - the very best aspect of this lil’ ol’ paleo community is the love and support that the gals liberally sprinkle around the cave. Don’t hold back here....we don’t view venting as negative...we view it as therapy. Peace of mind is a building block to any healthy regime, as well as the importance of throwing out an emotional life preserver to any in need. The ladies here are amazingly supportive, non judgmental and chock full o’ loving concern. You’re approaching surgery, and it’s no wonder your world is inside out right now, so feel free to speak your mind. We’re here to ‘listen’, offer helpful advice or just a shoulder to cry on (especially if we did the exercises I posted:)))))) seriously though, we’re here for you...no such thing as oversharing in the Cave....so post till your heart’s content! I’ve replied to your PM. Big hugs!!

    Ps - I revised my will before surgery too, and all I had to leave was a 14 year old Honda Civic with a cracked windshield:)))))
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