Controlling chemo side effects
hi all-
Can someone send what they do and take to relieve all sideeffects of chemo including but not limited to nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, body aches, mouth sores, gum bleeding/tenderness, weakness, insomnia, lack of appetite, no taste, etc. what do you take or do days before chemo, during chemo and after chemo? Thank you!
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You might poke around the monthly chemo threads—lots of good information/advice in all of them. Depending on your regimen, you’ll also get premeds that are a big help with SEs.
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I had 6 infusions of Taxotere/Carboplatin/Herceptin, then Herceptin for the balance of the year. For nausea I was given oral steroids ((Dexamethosone) to start the day before, then take the day after for two days. I was given Aloxi in my IV premeds along with Tylenol and Benadryl, then oral Zofran (Odansetron), Compazine (Proclorperazine), and Ativan (Lorazepam) to take starting the evening of infusion, and for as many days as I experienced any nausea. Zofran did not work for me at all and gave me a wicked headache, so I moved on to Compazine and it worked fine. I usually took Compazine starting the evening of chemo and continued around the clock for 3 or 4 days, and after the second infusion - when I figured out what worked - I had no further nausea or vomiting. I never needed the Ativan, but my instructions were to take these drugs in order - start with Zofran, if it didn't work, take the Compazine - even if it had only been a short time since I had taken the Zofran, and if the Compazine didn't work, take the Ativan. I was told that these drugs work by differing mechanisms so overlapping them was not an issue. There are other anti-nausea drugs that can be given both by IV and orally - Emend, other versions of the above mentioned drugs, a Sancuso patch - which is a time-release patch that some with intractable nausea have used with success, and also cannabinoids. Also, don't discount reflux causing nausea - some who have nausea can control it better if they are also taking meds for reflux - such as Pepcid, Zantac, Omeprazole, or prescription strength meds given by your oncologist. Receiving an infusion of fluids with Dexamethosone added for several days following infusion is also very helpful. Nausea can be caused by dehydration, so even though it seems counter-intuitive, you have to drink if you can. For diarrhea - Immodium over-the-counter, or Lomotil (loperamide) by prescription. If you have both nausea and diarrhea, and your food and hydration intake is limited, you are most certainly dehydrated. Claritin helps with body aches, but might be more helpful combined with Tylenol, Advil, or Aleve. Check with your oncologist before taking anything over-the-counter just to be safe though. For mouth sores many gargle with a baking soda/salt combo - here are the proportions - 1 quart water, 1 teaspoon salt, 1 teaspoon baking soda. If you keep a bottle of it already mixed by the sink and a stack of little paper cups - use it as often as you think about it. If that does not do the trick, I used Caphosol, a prescription, and it cleared my mouth sores in 48 hours. Some swear by Mugard, also by prescription. Some have mouth sores that are fungal and have used Nystatin with success. Or your oncologist can prescribe "Magic Mouthwash" and here are the ingredients:
Magic mouthwash usually contains at least three of these basic ingredients:
- An antibiotic to kill bacteria around the sore
- An antihistamine or local anesthetic to reduce pain and discomfort
- An antifungal to reduce fungal growth
- A corticosteroid to treat inflammation
- An antacid that helps ensure the other ingredients adequately coat the inside of your mouth
I tried to stay away from acidic foods like citrus and tomato, and spicy foods - even though I could taste all of those flavors better they were not good for my mouth or digestive system. I found that the BRAT diet was helpful (bananas, rice, apples, toast) worked well, and gradually added melon, yogurt, fortified hot cereal, mashed potatoes, macaroni and cheese. When my digestive system had calmed a bit I added more protein rich foods - chicken, steak, cheeseburgers - in an effort to provide energy and keep my hemoglobin high enough to avoid a transfusion. I often couldn't taste food, or the texture was weird, but I ate anyway knowing my body needed the protein.Even though I was exhausted I had trouble sleeping - some have had success with Xanax or Ativan, but the cannabinoids may be helpful with this too. I just rode it out - did not have young kids, and was off work during chemo, so if I didn't sleep at night, I just slept when I could. Wishing you the best and I hope this was helpful.
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Clariitin 1 x day starting two days before chemo day for seven days = prevents or reduces bone pain/body aches from Neulasta.
I do the fasting-mimicking diet for 5 days before chemo (chemo being 5th day) = protects healthy cells, boosts immune system function, and stresses cancer cells. Ketogenic diet can also have these effects but it may depend on the specific kind of cancer. I eat 90% veggies and nuts with small amounts of fish, fruit, and healthy carbs. Zero sugar, wheat, white rice, white potato. Look up Valter Longo at USC, he developed it... I do not buy the premade stuff, I just count the carbs, calories, fat and protein and do his ratios.
Magnesium citrate capsules (3 or 4 at bedtime) for constipation the week of the chemo. Colace w Senna is stronger if needed. Heating pad on belly when constipated for pain relief & digestion help (brings blood to area).
IV muti-vitamin, IV glutathione, & IV vitamin C (high dose) in between my chemos. Dilutes that "pollution" feeling.
Insomnia: work up slowly to 20mg melatonin at night. Can start w 3-5 mg. This helps you get sleepy AND it has anticancer properties. Take at the same time and expect to be very sleepy about 20-30 mins after you take it.
I have been lucky re nausea. I begin my Zofran the day after chemo when I wake up, and take it every 8 hours for 3 days. That has worked for me to keep my nausea away so far. I found that over-exercising also made me nauseous (panting/breathlessness brought it on) so I am more careful about that.
People who do a 30 minute walk daily (one one hour every 2nd day) have better response & fewer side effects, according to stats.
Bad appetite... SUCKS to be starving w no appetite.... the only help I can give is have some tolerable foods in stock. My best ones: homemade vegetable soup w fresh ginger sliced into it, Tom Kah thai soup, Udon soup, Bone broth, Gazpacho. Sushi was soft & easy to eat, and wasabi helped me override the metallic taste in my mouth. I do a smoothie every am w a small amt of berries, nutmilk Kefir, cocoyo cocnut "yoghurt," whey protein isolate, green juice powder, and reishi mushroom powder. This is tasty and easy w tons of probiotics to assist the digestive tract...
If on taxotere: ice your hands and feet while getting infusion ( also can do ice chips in mouth) to avoid nerve pain.
Good luck getting on top of those SEs!!
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thank you, all!!! This is great information!!
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