BC spread to the skin - same area - anyone?
Hi again - this is my 5th recurrence in basically the same area - my left 'breast' . I underwent many therapies - chemo, radiation 2x, AI - recently Ibrance with letrozole - but it still came back! So now I'm going into a trial on Monday. It's considered stage IV even though I'm told it's not like lung or liver type stage IV, but still scary. I've always dealt very well with this crap but this time - I am scared and trying to stay strong. Just wondering if anyone else has had it spread to the skin and may be in a trial of some sort. Thanks for your support!!
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Mine did not, but just wanted to send you gentle hugs.
I do have a local friend who has had hers return 5 times. They treat her as if she is stage 4, but so far, it has always been local recurrences and not metastatic.
Hoping the new drug works for you. Sorry you are dealing with this
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I am wondering why would they call it stage 4? According to staging if it spread to breast skin its called stage 3. and. if reccurance is on breast skin again its called local reccurance. and local recurrence is very different to skin metastasis. You can read all recent studies. Are you considering skin graft?
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I had spread to the skin one month after finishing treatment (one year of Herceptin) - a red inflammatory rash that spread very quickly. In my country it is considered stage IV because it is inoperable and therefore according to the guidelines must be treated like MBC, i.e. systemic treatment. Presently, I have no further mets - next scan end of August. I´ve decided to try to convince one of the changing MOs that I see to add electrochemo therapy.to my treatment :-) This may perhaps also be an option for you.
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Thanks for responding
- It's considered stage IV here too - i'm not sure why prob because inoperable but doc says not like stage IV of other types of cancers...says it's slow growing...I'm a candidate for this trial which is good and am starting Monday...Passed all the pre testing with flying colors= Yay! And trying to keep a positive attitude. It's definitely starting to get to me, but I'm a fighter and I will do my best to stay strong. The rest of my life is literally perfect = so I guess this is my toll in life to deal with this shit. I will keep you posted - no pun - as to how the trial is going....some side effects supposedly ...hoping I can tolerate them ok. And just living one day at a time - or one moment at a time. No one knows their future so we are all trying to do our best and live our best lives as possible. Counting my blessings....
thanks again. xxoo
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I’m glad to hear you qualified for the ttial
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My doctor told me its stage 3 and its my first reccurance. Small mild rash and it got operated successfully with skin graft from my back. Now i am on Chemo therapy. How big is your rash ? Skin graft is not an option for you
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KBee like you my first tumour was ER/PR + and HER 2 -....and now its ER+ PR+ and HER 2 -.... do you kbow what difference it makes
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I'm sorry you are going through this, especially five times! My breast cancer spread to my skin also.
Staging skin metastasis is very technical, which might be why there are such varying understandings of it here. My understanding - in general terms - is that skin metastasis of breast cancer can be either stage III or stage IV, depending on the circumstances, and whether the cancer is still surgically resectable. If the skin metastasis is limited to the breast area only it is a local/regional recurrence, but still considered to be "locally advanced" disease. Unfortunately, skin metastasis can also spread out over the body (i.e. down the arms or across the back) and that is stage IV, and not surgically resectable.
Mine was resectable, but I had to transfer to a specialized cancer hospital to find doctors who were capable of doing a chest wall resection and rather large skin graft. It's a lot to go through, but the recent data supports doing this, at least in cases like mine. It improves the disease free interval, and can even be curative for some people. I have no evidence of distant metastasis as of yet, but skin metastasis does make us high risk for distant metastasis.
I've heard of electrochemotherapy for unresectable skin metastasis. I think it's more commonly done in Europe now, but maybe it's something you could look into. That's great news that you're in a clinical trial. I hope it goes well for you. Feel free to PM me if you'd like. Big hugs, and please keep us updated on how everything is going.
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I agreed with buttonsmachine, if skin involvement is only on breast skin then its stage 3 not 4... even IBC is considered stage 3 with clear skin involvement but unfortunately if it spread other thn breast thn its stage 4. Like anyother type of BC. yes it may bring more risk of metastatic disease...but who knows...my cancer came back even i cought it so early first time stage 1 and with very aggressive treatment...so you never know...just think that now whatever you have right now is curable and there are treatment options . what will happen next is not guaranteed any any case. Enjoy today and hope for the best :
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Sunshine, PR- seems to be a little more aggressive than PR+, but the mechanism of why does not seem to be known
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Thank you for encouraging words. I will look into surgery options - I'm at Memorial Sloan so feel I am in good hands but definitely will ask. Keep all up to date as today starts the trial! xxxooo
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Glad you're at MSK - sending you best wishes for the start of the trial too!
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Would you mind sharing articles on recurrence to skin please. I've recently been diagnosed with a regional recurrence following a BMX 12 months ago. Tried four times to resection but unfortunately not possible. I start rads Monday. I've been finding it difficult to find information on this type of recurrence so if you can suggest anything I would be very grateful. BC is IDC E+P+HER-....... :-)
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Hi Nancy, sending hugs your way. I can't begin to imagine how you must be feeling after five recurrences. I've just been diagnosed with my first within 12 months of BMX. It sounds similar to you diagnosis ie spread to skin and not resectable. I'm really interested to know what's involved in your trial?Wishing the very best and I hope the trial goes well. Will be following your journey, xxx
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Hi Newy - i don't have any articles - just the name of the trial if youre interested - it's called "Bylieve" and the first part is called Solar. You can go on Sloane's website or you can google it.
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I have skin mets as well and my MO gave the electro-radiation as a potential treatment if it gets too bad. Her definition and my definition of bad seem to be varying though! Since I was already stage 4 I didn’t ask about staging. MO hasn’t brought up anything about skin grafting so I don’t think I’m a candidate for that. It’s covered my entire right breast (the bad one). I’m not sure how that compares though. Has anyone else had it to this extent? It is hard to find information on this. What have you done that has helped? So far my treatments aren’t working on the skin mets and the breast is so swollen I have developed painful stretch marks. Cancer sure is lovely isn’t it...bleh. MO said to massage the breast to help with swelling so we will see how that goes. At least righty will be getting some attention other than from my MO so there’s that.
Cheers
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Sierra, I'm sorry you're going through this! Breast cancer is such a pest.
Have you been on Xeloda yet? If I remember correctly, I read somewhere on these forums that Xeloda knocked out someone's skin metastasis for quite a long time. She was also dealing with stage iv disease.
I hope you find something that works for you - hopefully more people will chime in too. Hugs.
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I am in a trial through Memorial Sloan Kettering called "Bylieve" - you can google it. am also stage 4 because it is inoperable. The doc says not the same stage 4 which means far gone...
I am lucky the trial is working so far, but I live ct scan to ct scan like most of us. Anything else let me know. Looking forward to hearing back from you.
You can ask your doctor about getting in the trial. Hope this helps.
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Hi buttonsmachine, I recently confirmed the skin metastasis as well. It is a nightmare for me. I'm wondering which Dr. are you heading to do the chest wall resection and rather large skin graft? I'm 37. I have a 18 month baby. I really want to see her grow up.
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Hi casax, I'm sorry to hear about your skin metastasis. I'll send you a pm.
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