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  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    Yeah, I had something to pass the time..being forced to listen to an old man and his wife snoring behind me almost the entire time during his infusion and also hearing a nascar race (I am not a fan) from the other old guy's tv behind me...grrr Next time ear buds and charger will be in my bag!! I'd forgotten to fully charge my iPhone also, smh lol

    Rose

  • Dawn117
    Dawn117 Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2018

    I'm so grateful for y'all.  Reading your posts keeps this journey from seeming so isolating.  

     I don't think it's fair that we are having to shave.   I'm really missing my hair.  

    I have never experienced exhaustion like this before and I'm only halfway through with my TCHP.   

    I'm starting to get scared about surgery even though it's still a few months out.  I'm trying to remind myself to live one day at time.

      


  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    RoseRed - such a long day, that sucks. I had to google what nascar is and that sucks even more! Hope next time it will be shorter for you

    Misha - I hope no shoe has dropped 🙂

    So I'm not the only one with leg hair! I started to hope for some hair on my head, but nope, nothing there. I miss it. We actually have a heat wave now, which is very unusuall for September. I am fed up with the wig already. It's nice, but too warm. With the occasional hot flash... I'm looking for cooler weather.

    Dawn, I'm sorry you feel so exhausted... Maybe the next cycles will be better, I noticed someone with your regimen saying that it has gotten better towards the end for her.. Sorry I'm not able to find the actuall post now

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    My stomach had been feeling so good after Monday’s infusion, that I guess I got too confident. For some reason pork chops with BBQ sauce seemed like a good idea yesterday...well it most certainly was not! Had terrible heartburn last night. Was so mad at myself..but today is a new day and I will definitely be more careful now. Before chemo I had never had heartburn a day in my life. I guess that’s another reason why all this can be so frustrating. I was able to do 3 miles on the treadmill yesterday 😊 Hope to do that more now because it’s always been such a good stress reliever for me. Missing my hair too. Still have most of my eyelashes and about half of my eyebrows. Read in the Taxol group those may go too though while on Taxol 😐 I hope not. Grandson of the people I worked for yesterday told me how good I look..(he’s in his 20’s) I kept thinking tell me some more lies, but it did make me feel good. Lol Stay strong 💪 ladies!

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    Heartburn is terrible, I had it in pregnancies and now too. I bought some OTC "candies" for heartburn and they work wonders! Instant relief.

    Oh and guess what, I didn't get Taxol this week. My WBC was too low. Instead I got yet another filgrastim injection to boost white blood cells. But I've gotten the first dose of Herceptin, at least. I hope my counts recover for next week

    My eylashes look good so far, but I started to draw over a hole in my eyebrows with dark pencil. My hair is very dark and I have a very light skin, so even a few hair missing from my eyebrow are very noticeable.

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited September 2018

    ugh I just posted and it lost my post! Let me see...

    Heartburn and tummy troubles are the worst! Just like when I was pregnant too! I have started taking a probiotic called GoodBelly that seems to help a bit.

    Went to the infusion center yesterday for hydration. That was a good idea if you get offered it! I did feel better afterwards.

    Feeling impatient today and wishing all this was over. I know it’s one day at a time! Wish I could fast forward a bit!

  • Gndvll
    Gndvll Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2018

    Hey, ladies.

    I got released from the hospital on Mon evening and I'm working on sleep for now. No chemo until next Tuesday, and yes, that was a sigh of relief!


    One more dose of AC. Just one.


    I hope all of your treatments are going well, and SEs can be forgotten quickly!


    Love y'all.


    Gina

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited September 2018

    Yay Gina! Glad you’re out of the hospital! And that you get a break until that last ac! Hang in there!

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    Hi everyone. Home already from Taxol #2 Wow, what a difference from last Monday! This time I had my infusion in a private room with my own bathroom and it was awesome! I felt like I'd been upgraded to the penthouse suite 😂 I was done by noon too 😊 Nurse slowed the Taxol for 15min, and then put it on regular speed. I was feeling good, drinking my banana/peach milkshake I made at home last night and then froze in my huge insulated Sheetz coffee mug. I'm gonna do that for every infusion from now on! So good 😊 Good luck to everyone this week! I'm really going to try to drink even more water this round. Figured something out about myself, I drink more plain water if it's in a glass 🥃 instead of from a bottle. It just tastes better, so using a glass from now on. Take care y'all

    Rose

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    RoseRed, now you are way ahead of me, you are doing great! I'm just now waiting for my apppintment with MO. I'm supposed to get T+H today. Last week no Taxol, so I hope my WBC have recovered enough to get it this time.

    I had a really bad weekend emotionally... I was home alone and I'm not good at being alone...

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    I'm sorry you had a bad weekend, JaBoo. Sometimes I enjoy being alone, but it can also get me down. I hope you were able to get your treatment and everything will be ok with your WBC from now on too!

    I've started talking to the psychologist intern at my cancer center when I go for my treatments. Never been one to talk to anyone about stuff before, but it is helpful. She also told me about a support group they have, but I'm not sure I can make it with my work schedule. Intern comes right to my room during my infusion for our talk, so it's very convenient. Next session scheduled for my next infusion. I'm wondering if that's why I got the private room yesterday. If so, I've got plenty to vent about until the end of all my treatments! Haha 😉🤣😊

    Rose

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    RiseRed, thank you. It was the kids missing - I am so used to have them around with zero time for myself that when they are away in this chemo-crappy situation, I simply can't cope. Too much time to think. I cried and cried... which in itself was not bad, I may have needed that.

    Thans for sharing your experience with psychlogical session. I actually told my MO today about my rough few days and she suggested a psychologist they have at the centre. In fact, my MO is like a psychologist, she has wonderfull insights. I think I will make an appointment with the psychologist, when else if not now. The insurance even covers that

    And yes, I got TH all right today. The MO said I have enough white and red blood cells to donate 🙂 So far I am feeling pretty normal. I did cooling of my hans and feet during Taxol. We'll see if it helps some


  • Gndvll
    Gndvll Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2018

    Wow, Rose. You're flying through this and it's so good to see! JaBoo, I'm glad your counts are back up and you got your Taxol. I see a psychiatrist, and it does help. Every now and then he'll say something that makes more sense, the more I mull it, and when I implement it, it helps!

    And we drove two hours today for my last AC, only to be told it was supposed to be tomorrow! My daughter and I were both ready to cry, but Moffitt worked it out for us. What a great group of people!

    So now, I'm sitting in my chair, getting my premeds. I hope we miss rush hour traffic. We should, and be home by dinner. And bed! Lol.

    I pray everyone has a great week, with minimal side effects! Hugs and love to you all!


    Gina

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    Thanks! I don’t feel like I’m flying through all this, but very thankful to not have any delays so far. Still feeling pretty good today. Worked all day. I started taking Prilosec again this morning to get ahead of the heartburn this round and I’m also being very careful with what I eat. Did my 3 miles on the treadmill Sunday and I feel like doing it tonight too. If it’s anything like last week, the muscle aches will be back by Friday, so I want to exercise while I still feel like it. Hoping everyone has a good week! I will be happy if I can work the next 3 days. Fingers crossed the heartburn will be less than last week.

    Rose

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited September 2018

    Hi all! After reading your posts, I think I should talk to a psychologist as well. It’s too easy to think horrible things and since I’m not working, I have lots of time to feel sorry for myself and worry about all of life’s “what if’s?”

    Second Taxol went well-I have been literally chugging cold water and feel a little bit better this time. Tummy’s still messed up, but don’t know what else to do about that. Taking Pepcid every day and eating really bland foods.

    Question: JaBoo mentioned you are cooling your hands and feet. How are you doing it? Is anyone else icing their hands and feet and how are you doing it?

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    Misha, yes, I'm trying it with the cooling. I want my nails preserved and also hope to prevent neuropathy. For that, I also take some supplements. Both the cooling and supplements I discussed with my MO and she approved. But no one has tried cooling at the cancer center before, so the MO even called to the nurses at infusion room to let them know. I think I am a weirdo for them now.

    I bought gel packs for cooling. They are not expensive and easy to handle. (Some people use ice or bowls wit iced water, but that's not possible for me, since I go always alone) I also have a soft insulated picknick bag. I take two gel packs for my hands and put them with my hands inside an insulated blanket (something I had at home). I put my feet inside the picknick bag with the remaining gel packs. I wear thin socks and gloves, otherwise it would be too cold to the skin.

    I do it only for the time Taxol is dripping and for some 10min. afterwards.

    There's a usefull thread with tips about cooling here. It's not very long. I am following the advice given there by Calliegirl, she even posted a photo.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topics/864046?page=1#idx_21


  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    RoseRed, that's great with your running. Having a threadmill is nice, with shorter days coming. I'm not into running, but I try to walk each day.. But infusion days have a lot of sitting. I got 12000 steps on Monday, than infusion day on Tuesday was only 5000 steps, but yesterday I managed 18000 steps. And it even was kind of psychotherapy, because I went for a walk with a cancer survivor who is exactly my age, and has also 2 kids. She had her diagnosis last spring.

    Misha, I am also not working. But I really don't know if I would have the time, with all the appointments. I was working just part-time. With the house, garden and family orchards to tend to, and of course the two small kids, I mostly have no time to think.... But previous weekend was rough, when they were away.

    I am competing with squirrels every day now

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  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    Well blah, I started running a fever 2 days ago. Called doctor yesterday when it hit 100.5. They drew blood from my port to see what’s going on and I also got to pee in a cup. Started antibiotic yesterday...probably more than likely my chemo on Monday will be delayed because I’m sick. 🙁 So frustrating when I’ve been trying so hard to avoid that, but my stubborn self can only do so much. Hopefully the antibiotic will start helping soon. Other than the fever, I’m feeling pretty good. No heartburn from hell like last week because I’ve been taking Prilosec after Monday’s Taxol, so yay for that positive at least! Hope everyone is doing well.

    Rose

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited September 2018

    Rose-hope you are feeling better and that you can get your infusion tomorrow!

    JaBoo-thanks for the link about the hand and feet cooling!

    Hope everyone’s doing well!

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2018

    RoseRed, how are you doing? I hope you were ok to get your infusion today?

    Misha, your 3rd Taxol today? How are you feeling?

    I should be getting my 2nd Taxol tomorrow. This first cycle was uneventfull in comparison to AC... But I felt some tingling in my hands and feet. Maybe I think about it too much, but it deffinitelly was there...

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited September 2018

    JaBoo yes third Taxol was on Monday. It went fine. So much better than the a/c!! I am back in the chair getting hydration today. I am starting to feel some tingling and maybe burning in my fingers and feet. Like you said, maybe it’s all in your mind, but I don’t think so. I also have pains in my fingernails!

    Post ladies and give us updates! Hugs to all!!


  • Jkittle
    Jkittle Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2018

    hi gals!


    Well I'm 13 weeks in, 4 AC chemo done and had my 5th Taxol today. No neuropathy at all yet!! I'm still taking 2 Tbsp glutamine and 100mg B6 daily and it's working to keep neuropathy away. My only side effects seem to be a battle between diarrhea and condtipation. I'm fiddling with my meds to try to balance out, ugh! So I've got 7 more weekly treatments and then I'm on to surgery, still thinking double mastectomy. My right breast is the one I found a lump in but the tumor has shrunk considerably. I can feel odd thick tissue in my left breast that I thought was normal, but it's no longer present in the right side so I think it's tumors or whatever. That side was “suspicious “ on the MRI. Neither side showed on my mammograms! Makes me wonder why we don't have MRI breast screenings instead. Anyways my wonderful dental patients are helping to keep my head up at work with their kindness. My coworkers and boss think they are supportive but I don't get that feeling, it's hard to explain. I think my positive attitude fools them into thinking this is no big deal for me.

    Hope you are all doing alright and have minimal SE's. ❤️

    Jenny

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited October 2018

    Hi all, I had 2nd Taxol last week and the burning in the soles of my feet got worse. Now it has resolved, after much caring with various creams. I'm also trying to walk less, but that's somehow not working. 10000 steps yesterday and I was really trying to get off my feet! This SE is really bad luck for me, since I don't feel anything else otherwise. If it wasn't for the burning, I would be completelly normal. The burning was really bad, like walking on hot nails. I think it is the hand-foot-syndrome. I'm gonna ice even more dilligently and I think longer after the infusion stops. I wanna at least keep my nails on. I'm taking the recommended supplements, which were OK'd by my MO.

    What about others and their Taxols?

    JKittle, it seems your surgery is pretty decided, isn't it... with the suspicious area even in the other breast... Sorry to hear that. But I'm glad you have such kind people as your patients. What a support.


  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited October 2018

    Hello all, sorry I've been gone so long. I started running a fever 2 days after my 2nd Taxol and am just now getting better. Numerous blood tests, urinalysis and chest x-ray revealed nothing. Antibiotics were no help. Antiviral drugs no help either. All I can think is that this was my body having an allergic reaction to the Taxol. I spoke with another lady who had such a bad reaction to Taxol, she ended up in the hospital for over a month. I had the exact symptoms as her. Fever, racing pulse, extreme hypersensitivity to light and sound, eyes blurry. At times it just felt like my brain was on fire. I am seeing my chemo doc tomorrow and I'm telling her there will be no more Tacol going into my body, not 1 more drop and nothing else like it either. I truly was scared for my life at times during the last 2 weeks. My temp went as high as 103.7. Depending on what my doctor says, it might be time to switch doctors. I am fed up with her ignoring what I say. I want to continue treatments but no no no to Taxol. Caught myself saying last week I'd rather be on the Red Devil, so that shows you just how bad I have felt. I know that's not an option, but there has got to be something else they can put me on.

    Rose

  • Misha13
    Misha13 Member Posts: 240
    edited October 2018

    Rose-wow!! What an ordeal you’ve been through! I am so sorry you had a terrible reaction and I hope your doc can give you something comparable! Hugs!!

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited October 2018

    Just had a long talk with my doctor. After my telling her how I felt that all my problems from the last 2 weeks were from an allergic reaction to the Taxol, she tells me “I have another patient on Taxol with a bad skin rash, maybe we have a bad batch of drugs here" Well maybe someone needs to check into that!!! Yikes..not gonna use me as a guinea pig to figure it out either. I will only be getting Herceptin and Perjeta for next Monday's treatment. I said no to Taxotere as well. It's my body, my choice. I've talked to other women who are still suffering the effects of Taxol or Taxotere many yrs later, and it's not happening to me. I did say I was open to the idea of Abraxane. I do understand the risks if I don't continue with a taxane chemo, with the type of cancer I have the odds are greater for it coming back but hell no to Taxol, especially if there's a bad batch of it going round my cancer center...geez! It might be a good idea to consult with a lawyer just in case I do have issues later..you never know. I went with my gut on this..SO glad I did now!

    Rose

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited October 2018

    RoseRed, oh my, I'm so sorry to hear about such a reaction! The fever really was high, it must have been terrible. Good that you've been able to discuss with your MO. Are you now feeling better? I hope so!

    My legs have crawlies as I write this... So I wonder how long will I last on Taxol and what toll does it take on me... Only 3 done

  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited October 2018

    Thanks JaBoo! I’m finally starting to feel like me again. It’s so good to be able to do things again. Yesterday was the first day for my temp to stay normal all day. 2 weeks of fever was just horrendous to go through! The chills and then night sweats were unreal. I was having to strip my bed at least 3 times a night and then had to do all that laundry every day, while feeling like total crap. So when the doctor tried one last time to change my mind on the Taxol..”remember these side effects are only temporary” I just kept shaking my head no no no no, and risk getting that fever back? Not getting me again. I hope you and everyone will be ok on Taxol. I had had such high hopes it’d be easier than the AC but I must be allergic to something in the Taxol.


    Rose

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited October 2018

    I'm so sorry RoseRed. But glad you are feeling better now! What's the plan next? Are you continuing with H+P weekly? Or different plan?

    Yes, here everybody says Taxol is easy too. Two MOs at my centre were telling me, how easy it is, no problems, check-ups only sometimes, you will sail through!! Well, it is definitelly easier in terms of eating and digestion, I am eating normally right after chemo. With AC, I had nausea for more than a week each time. But I am really scared of the neuropathy and I am already feeling it. At least my nails are great, no problem at all.



  • RoseRed4
    RoseRed4 Member Posts: 72
    edited October 2018

    I'm not really sure what my treatment plan is going to be right now. For now I'll be continuing with H+P and I did tell my MO I'd be open to the idea of trying Abraxane. She told me if insurance approves that drug, it would be every 3 weeks for that, but for how long I don't know. Taxol made my nails terrible. I also had terrible heartburn and mouth was sore like from the AC. Diarrhea like I'd never had before. I didn't really notice any neuropathy. I'm sorry, didn't mean to scare you about the Taxol. I must be one of the rare cases of being allergic to it, or allergic to whatever it's mixed with.

    Rose

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