Mastectomy one or both?

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Smithamber70
Smithamber70 Member Posts: 3
edited September 2018 in Triple-Negative Breast Cancer

I am 29 years old Diagnosed with stage 2.B IDC breast cancer. I am triple negative, and don't have the BRCA gene. I had a tumor in my left breast that I could removed in June 2017. I also had multiple positive lymph nodes. I am having a mastectomy in January 2018 and I need some options. My surgeon just wants to remove my left breast and we made a pro and cons list and I said ok just the one. But now I am getting a few other options from other medical professionals to get both removed. Please help and give me your option I am really leaving towards getting both removed Just to be safe!

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  • Maureen1
    Maureen1 Member Posts: 614
    edited November 2017

    I'm not TN so my situation is different...I had a prophylactic BMX. I hope those who are TN will come along and weigh in on your question...Good luck with your decision.

  • maryna8
    maryna8 Member Posts: 1,810
    edited November 2017

    HI

    I had only the involved breast removed, had one tumor in it and 2 of 3 nodes had mets. The radiology doc told me that with a TNBC diagnosis the chance of a recurrence locally is small. He said with TNBC, if there was recurrence it would more likely be elsewhere, so in his opinion I could keep other breast. My surgeon agreed, but said I could have both removed, and do nothing else, or have both removed and have reconstruction. I could also keep one and reconstruct the other but they wouldn't match. Since my husband was very ill at the time, and I had small breasts and I was in my 60's, I just had the one removed and left it at that. The surgeon did say I could do recon down the road if I wanted to, but the older I get the less I feel like doing that.

    Good luck, you do have lots of options!

    Mary

  • mermaidmom
    mermaidmom Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2017

    Honestly it's what you feel best with. I chose a double even though it was only in my right side just for my own peace of mind. My surgeons and I talked about the option of just doing the one side but I was sure I wanted both and they supported me.

  • alund
    alund Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2017

    I was diagnosed with TNBC in March 2017, and I am 54 years old. I had a unilateral mastectomy followed by chemo for four months because of the tumor size. No lymph node involvement. I chose to only have the right breast removed because it's my understanding that my risk of developing cancer in the left breast is no more than that of the average woman. I did have an MRI to be certain there was no cancer in the left breast. My reconstruction was on November 2, and I am very happy with my decision! I feel like at least I have one breast with feeling, and it looks AMAZING since I chose to have a little augmentation done to match the reconstructed breast. My reconstructed breast still has a bit of healing to do, but I feel confident that it, too, will look fantastic in a few months. With my clothes on, it's impossible to tell mine are not both real.

    It's a tough decision, for sure, and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this at such a young age. I remember thinking when I had my mastectomy that I couldn't imagine having a double and not being able to use both arms. It is nice to have at least one side of your body not in pain. As far as the worry of recurrence, I understand your concern. I know that I'll always think about the possibility, but between the unilateral mastectomy and the chemo, I just have to believe that I've done all I can to be cancer free. Best of luck to you!

  • Rrobin0200
    Rrobin0200 Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2017

    I chose s BMX as well for peace of mind. You have to do what's right for you....

  • NinjaMeow
    NinjaMeow Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2017

    I have stalked this board for a few years and created an acct to respond to this thread! I was diagnosed at 40. Found a lump after second child was born and turned out tnbc. No family history or genetic propensity. Initially I decided on a single mastectomy with recon. I did surgery first then chemo. As I went through chemo it gave me time to think. I initially went for single bc I was stressed to make a decision and went on the facts that getting it in the second breast is not common. Also why just take away body parts!? During treatment I thought about it an asked my oncologist. She put it to me this way...post treatment I would need a mammo every 3 mo on the unaffected breast. If they found anything I would be back for a biopsy and mentally take me back to day 1. This was enough to confirm the direction I was thinking. I went back and had the other side done and never looked back. The surgery was not as bad as I expected. Everyone has their own path but I wanted to share my experience

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited November 2017

    Thank you for sharing your story, NinjaMeow! These firsthand experiences are so helpful to other members just starting down this road.

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  • Saundra559
    Saundra559 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2017

    I am having a difficult time deciding what to do. I was diagnosed in 1998 with Stage 1 DCIS ER+ and had lumpectomy, chemo and radiation. Fast forward to September 2017, Stage II Triple Negative, same breast. Did 4x over 8 weeks of AC which was a bitch and now finished 2 treatments of Taxol and have 10 more to go. Trying to talk my surgeon into BMX which she is warming up to. Now that she will do the bilateral I'm terrified of the reconstruction numbness, tightness, potential arm pain and any other complication that might happen. I don't want to go through this again but don't wan to regret reconstruction. Anyone happy with their decision after BMX to do reconstruction with implants?n

  • Sam0623
    Sam0623 Member Posts: 110
    edited November 2017

    Hello,

    I was diagnosed earlier this year with stage 2 tnbc (which turned out to be stage 3) at 31. I decided to have a bilateral mastetomy with immediate reconstruction even though I also tested negative for any genetic component which would increase my risk of getting another cancer. The decision was pretty easy for me for 2 reasons. 1, I did not want to deal with the anxiety of feeling any lumps and bumps in my breasts. 2, although I tested negative for any genetic predisposition, my surgeon told me I am higher risk just due to my age. The way she explained it to me was the risk of getting breast cancer for someone who has already had breast cancer is higher than the normal population- that coupled with the fact that my life expectancy is another 60 years makes it more likely I will get another one in those 60 years. She (and all my doctors really) were completely on board with my decision and never tried to talk me out of it (I could have have a lumpectomy).

    I haven't had my exchange surgery yet, but I am very pleased with how things look so far. I did not have a hard time with the surgery at all- I had some nerve pain in the first couple days, but I've been back to exercising almost daily since I got the ok 3 weeks post op. I can honestly say this hasn't prevented me from doing anything now (although exercises where you use your chest muscles feel very weird because the expander is under the peck muscle). In my case, I think what really helped me is I started using my arms again as soon as I was told I could (after the drains are removed).

  • esny
    esny Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2017

    Hi. I am 41 and am in the same boat. I am not sure which way to go either. My surgery is coming up December 7 and need to decide if I am taking just the affected breast or both off. My cancer is TN and was missed on mamo. And then another smaller cancer was missed in the same breast and recently showed up on my MRI. I am BRCA neg with dense breasts. So I am afraid another cancer will be missed on the "healthy" side.

    It is a really hard choice to remove a healthy breast but at the same time we have all been through so much that it makes it hard to imagine not removing the other breast- for peace of mind.

    My BS said I should be 100% sure of my decision- but that she supports me either way. My PS said that while he normally tries to talk women out of a BMX, he can see why I would want to do it in my situation and thinks its a good idea.

    I am really struggling with this decision and wish I knew which way to go but am leaning toward taking both off. I don't want to decide later to do it and got through the surgery again. Would rather get them done at the same time and be done with it.

    Not sure if this helps butt at least you know you are not alone in feeling unsure about what to do.

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited November 2017

    I guess to some extent I never looked at my breasts as being singular when it came to MX...they’re a set. If 1 goes they both do. If 1 stays they both stay. Feeling or not should be the same in both (or relatively), they should move the same, physically feel the same to the touch, fit in a bra the same. Just me I guess

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited November 2017

    I have 2 tumors in my right breast. The left is clear--just a benign cyst. My initial impulse was to do a BMX, even though I'm not at risk with the BRCA gene, either..but after taking some time to do some research I decided against it. My main concern was a) losing all feeling in my breasts, and b) the recovery time of a double. I'm a model. I'm self-employed. I can't be down that long. When I researched the risks, it turns out that a unilateral MX doesn't put you at any more risk than a bilateral. I think some people think a bilateral is a cure-all and will ensure you don't get recurrence, but that's simply not the case. Many doctors are becoming alarmed at the number of women who are choosing to get rid of healthy breasts because 1 is cancerous.

    Some women also do it for symmetry, but my surgeon thinks that won't be a problem.

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited November 2017

    I should add--another reason I decided to keep the left breast is that the tumors in the right are slow growing, according to the pathology report, and my surgeons expect my oncotype to be low. Of course, I will be monitoring the left breast very carefully.

  • JJ62
    JJ62 Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2017

    Saundra559 and Smithamber70: When I started down this road I did not know my genetic status, had no bc history in family and was told I could not have recon at time of mastectomy. Nor was a bilateral mastectomy an option. My medical team wanted the known tumour removed asap, via lumpectomy or mx. I chose mastectomy. Fortunately I read about a woman my age who 10 years later pursued reconstruction. It made me think. And helped at a time when it was there was a lot of information to digest and a new reality to come to grips with. When my genetic results came in I pursued a second mastectomy. I am nearly 8 years out and amazed at how happy I am with my body. No reconstruction. When I was a uni-boober I tended to wear my prosthesis. Now I don't wear prosthesis, but have them for when I do want them. I am athletic, healthy and happy. I was 48 at the time of my diagnosis and have been married for 33 years.

    It is such a personal decision. Sometimes there is more than one right answer. Best wishes!

    Jody

  • lifeisgood46
    lifeisgood46 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2017

    Hello! I just completed a bilateral mastectomy on 11/17. I had DCIS on the left side only. After lumpectomy, oncologist and radiologist decided mastectomy was recommended versus radiation as could not get sufficient clear margins. I opted for both sides due to my family history (mother and 2 aunts) and did not want to have to worry going forward. I'm 46 with 2 active teenagers and felt like this was the best way to provide peace of mind and better quality of life (no radiation or chemo) for me and my daughters. I had silicone implant reconstruction at the same time. i already had implants, so i didn't need expanders. i felt like having one surgery and not having to worry about having to possibly do the same procedure down the road, made the decision for me. also, i thought it would be easier to complete the reconstruction and have the symmetry i wanted. i did have some complications with hematomas on both sides, but once those were cleared, i started healing as expected. i'm 100% happy with my decision. my advice would be to ask lots of questions, look for stories like these, as much as you can and go with your gut. you are the one making this decision for YOU. be content with what you decide an you will be at peace. good luck to you!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2017

    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences, Lifeisgood46! We hope you continue to heal and feel well!

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  • lightseeker
    lightseeker Member Posts: 58
    edited December 2017

    I thought that I would share my letters (to and from) my doctors...

    Dear Drs. Maurer and D'Abreo,

    I want to first thank you both for taking good care of me. Cancer has profoundly affected me; I don't feel as capable as I once was. My decision making ability has decreased and I do not feel very sure of myself. I do want to live and if I begin to make decisions based on emotional responses (I am a victim of childhood sexual abuse), I am going to need you both to knock some sense into me. Treat me as if I was your daughter, mother, sister…please.

    I know that I have been babbling about Luminal AR, Triple Negative, Lobular but, I've been thinking that perhaps it has a better prognosis because it is treated more drastically (bilateral Mx?) I don't want to make the wrong choice. I'm so sad to lose my breasts because they were not mine for so many years (sexual abuse) and now I feel too young to give up my sexuality. However, this may be my fate and I am going to have to accept it.

    I am going to continue with the treatment appointments (mammogram, radiology, plastic surgeon). I just felt that I needed to write you both and give you a window into my emotional attachment to my breasts. Still, my first priority is to live…and I'm going to need you both to help me with that.

    Thanks. Love,

    Eve

    Thank you for sharing your sentiments . I can only imagine how difficult your situation is . While I can see and treat the physical changes, the emotional ones are much harder and I don't want to offer you meaningless clichés.

    Suffice it to say that your innate strength and ability to rationalize and process information will carry you through ( with a little help from us!)

    Many women chose bilateral mastectomies because of the commonly held misconception that aggressive surgery MUST mean better prognosis , but the prognosis is unrelated to the surgical technique.

    If it can be done with clear margins, a lumpectomy and radiation is still the appropriate recommendation. The goal of the surgery is to get clear margins however , so if that is not possible with a lumpectomy, then mastectomy( on one side ) is appropriate.

    It is immaterial what kind of triple negative cancer it is, bilateral mastectomies will not change the prognosis from this cancer .

    Prognosis is ultimately related to the chance of cancer recurring outside the breast ( metastasis) . The factors that impact prognosis are

    1.all the cancer is removed locally ( clear margins, radiation ) and 2. how aggressive the systemic therapy (chemo) is .. you have already done the most aggressive out there, with the option to do more for residual disease.

    Having both breasts removed only minimizes the chance of having another breast cancer in either breast in your future, but that is something that may never happen. It does not have any impact on the systemic therapy . A genetic marker. i.e BRCA / strong family history would be another reason to take both breasts off as there is a higher chance of a second cancer in these patients .

    In addition, if unfortunately there is a recurrence, it does not follow that it cannot be treated at that time with a mastectomy.

    Bottom line, Bilateral mastectomies are not what I would recommend to a family member in your situation , but if the margins on the lumpectomy are not clear , I would recommend mastectomy on that side at least .

    I hope this helps a little , hope 2018 is a peaceful year for you.

    Regards and see you soon

    Dr D'Abreo

  • Itssounfair
    Itssounfair Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2018

    does anybody know anything about multicentric breast cancer??

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited January 2018

    Yes I had multicentric breast cancer. What would you like to know?

  • Nili
    Nili Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2018

    dear all,


    I have been reading all the responses. I will cut my story short.

    I was diagnosed with bc straight after birth of my second child when she was 8/12 old. I was TN. I was given options of lumpectomy or mastectomy. My surgeon convinced me that lumpectomy with radiation is as good as mastectomy as per new reasearch. I went with her decision and went for lumpectomy and then radiation . I am 2 yrs post diagnosis however still worry about recurrence. I can not enough settle about my decision.

    And now I feel like doing mastectomy. Is there anybody like me who has changed their mind. Does Breast tissue heal we’llin post irradiated surgical area. I am very confused. But thought of recurrence is quite scary.

    Any suggestions most welcomed

    Nilima

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited September 2018

    Hi Nili - I also had a lumpectomy. I was told that yes, I could go back and have a mastectomy. The only thing that could be problematic, per my doctor, is getting reconstruction after receiving radiation.

    Unfortunately, when TN comes back it is rarely a local recurrence. However, if you believe getting a mastectomy would make getting on with your life easier, I’d make an appointment with your BS.

    Best of luck and congrats on being 2 years out

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited September 2018

    Natural tissue reconstruction (DIEP or SGAP) tend to do better reconstruction-wise than implants post-rads. Here’s a helpful link:

    https://www.breastcenter.com/2018/05/01/i-wish-id-known-dr-dellacroce-speaks-to-ypo-about-modern-breast-reconstruction/

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