What to eat is stressing me out

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pelapi
pelapi Member Posts: 8

All,

My wife was diagnosed with stage 2B, no lymph node involvement, triple negative breast cancer around a month ago. Since then, she has started her regimen of checmo (4 rounds of A/C, 12 of taxol). I have read many survivor stories such as Patricia Prijatel's story and book, and Jennifer Griffin's story here: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/09/08/jennifer-... . Both of them enforce that a healthier diet of lots of veggies, whole grains, and lean and veggie protein (fish, beans, etc) were a big factor during their chemo and in their recovery.

I have completely adjusted our diet to meet those requirements. But here is what stresses me out: I also read that, for chemo to be most effective, you WANT the cancer cells to be very expressive so the chemo can kill it. From what I read, this very healthy diet does the opposite. It starts to shut down cancer cell replication. Which normally would be outstanding, but not during chemo. Is that correct? I'm scared that my efforts to get my wife super healthy, is adversely effecting the power of the chemo itself.

Any input would be appreciated.

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  • lg10
    lg10 Member Posts: 71
    edited September 2018

    Hi Pelapi. I'm sorry you and your wife have to go through this and I admire your willingness to take care of her! It really helps to have a supportive spouse. I know first hand. :)

    When I was going through chemo (same regimen as your wife), I had to eat whatever felt right at the moment. It was hard for me to go grocery shopping because I never wanted what I returned with. I think it's great to eat as many fresh fruits and veggies as possible, but I found that they really upset my stomach. I gave myself a little grace during treatment. It is HARD and you just have to do the best you can. I ate whatever I craved and I had the same logic as you mentioned. I wanted those bad cells to replicate if they were still in my body. That way the chemo could get them. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it made me feel better when I wasn't eating very healthy. My plan is to start a whole food, plant based diet once I am done with active treatment. Best of luck to you two.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited September 2018

    Honestly, I think chemo is so toxic that if it's going to work, it will work regardless of diet in the moment. The changes you're making will help stabilize blood sugar and reduce inflammation in the body and that will help with her recovery and reduce risk of recurrence so I say keep it up :)

    you may also want to check out two threads on this board: Diet & Lifestyle (the first page is kind of weird as we're actually re-creating a thread that got deleted so just bear with it until you get to the good details about what we're all doing to improve our odds). https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topics...

    & plant-based & vegan resources thread https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/58/topics...

    Also, the website Foods for Breast Cancer has interesting lists of what foods to eat & avoid during various parts of treatment. https://foodforbreastcancer.com/

    best wishes!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited September 2018

    I second moth's suggestion to look at foodforbreastcancer.com. There are articles on breast cancer diet during Adriamycin and during Taxol, with lists of healthy foods that enhance the effects of the chemo. The author has collected an impressive number of scientific studies on food and breast cancer, and synthesizes the information.

    For what it’s worth — and I realize this is just one person's experience — I follow ffbc’s guidelines along with other healthy lifestyle practices, and have had impressive responses to chemo.

  • couragement
    couragement Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2018

    Dear Pelapi,

    I hope this message finds you as well and strong as can be as you take care of your lovely wife. I certainly second what the previous posters have noted and wanted to add some food for thought :). I was on a bit of a different chemo regimen but I had a difficult time and here are a few gems I learned.

    1. I went to see the main breast cancer researcher at a well known institution to discuss foods. He told me that the women who did the best on chemo in terms of reducing feeling poorly were those that ate a rather standard American diet. And he meant the SAD diet, which I have avoided much of my life. This meant breads, potatoes, cereals, etc. So I went toward that diet but with a healthier twist, like organic whole grain breads, organic oatmeal, sweet potatoes, etc. Toward the end of my infusions (about 10 months -out of 12 into it) I ate nothing but mashed bananas and oatmeal sweetened with maple syrup. It was all my stomach could handle. My weight stayed steady and I felt fine with this. I am a huge lover of all things green and salads but my stomach could not manage them. Almost all the oncologists I spoke with (and there were over 8) said to eat what I could keep down, and that liquid was the most important. If I couldn't drink water then I was to drink whatever I could. We also discussed the emotional value of eating what felt right to someone. If cake sounded good and was what worked at the time, "then eat cake". Supportive treats are important for emotional well-being.

    2. My husband is a medical researcher and he found very interesting information from Dr. Valter Longo at USC. Dr. Longo's research supports the idea that fasting right before, during, and a few days before chemo infusions that the chemo is more effective at killing cancer, and that the healthy cells are protected and are not damaged as much. There is a good amount of research to support this online. I did not follow his protocol at the time because I was so overwhelmed that I didn't feel the energy or capacity to do so, but should it return and I have to do chemo again I would follow this. Dr. Ruth Patterson at UCSD has researched and written about fasting as a method to reduce recurrence in women with breast cancer. I am following her program and that of the Salk Institute by fasting daily for 14 hours (beginning early evening). You can find her articles on Pub Med as well as Longo's and both have interviews up on You Tube. Dr. Panda at Salk is the premier researcher in the world on fasting and there is much info on him as well.

    I wish you and your wife the very best throughout treatment and beyond. Sending warmth and love to you both.

  • pelapi
    pelapi Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2018

    Thank you everyone for your responses.

    I love the idea of fasting, but I highly doubt my lovely wife would go for it :) She is a VERY strong-willed woman, and right now she believes that eating three healthy meals a day is keeping her strong. Hard to argue as the only side effect she has had (albeit we are only two AC treatments in), is hair loss. Otherwise she feels fantastic.That said, I don't feel any palpable reduction in the tumor yet. I'm not sure if that's normal though.

    Thank you for the links to the foods for breast cancer site. I had been there before, but I didn't see the links to what to eat for the specific chemo treatments she is on. Those are fantastic resources.

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