I am still eating unhealthy food and feeling bad!

stephilosphy00
stephilosphy00 Member Posts: 386
edited August 2018 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Hi ladies!

I am at a healthy weight, my BMI now is 22. I actually have lost more than 10 pounds since April by doing 13 hours fasting. I do eat healthy food - I make myself organic fruit and vegetable smoothie everyday. But I am just not able to totally get rid of unhealthy food. For example, I eat ice cream and red meat 2-3 times per week (today I had an oreo milkshake from Burger King!! ), even most of the time they are in small portion, I know they are just not he right food to eat. How can I encourage myself to stop eating unhealthy food? Thanks!

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  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2018

    stephilosophy,

    Congrats on losing 10 lbs, this is fabulous. Perfection is not expected, you may be a little too hard on yourself, that's my view.I'd just make sure to keep that ten lb weight off.

    Best wishes.

  • WC3
    WC3 Member Posts: 1,540
    edited August 2018

    stephilosphy00:

    I'm not without my small indulgences but the first time I stepped on a treadmill and saw what went in to burning off a single Oreo cookie made me think about how much I really wanted that cookie to begin with. The answer was, not much. I would rather have 80 calories of something better. So if I get an impulse craving, I usually give it a few days to see if it sticks around. It usually doesn't.

    And also congradulations on the weight loss!

  • DATNY
    DATNY Member Posts: 358
    edited August 2018

    As long as you eat mostly good stuff, indulging yourself here and there is fine. Is not that the "unhealthy" food Is truly unhealthy. It's rather the fact that by filling ourselves with that food, we don't get enough of the nutrients available only in healthy food.

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited August 2018

    What DATNY said!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited August 2018

    My question is why? Why are you punishing yourself. It doesn't sound like an unreasonable diet. It is not why you got cancer so try your best and be happy and enjoy.

  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited August 2018

    you might really enjoy this book. It's not what you think when you first read the title. This man wrote a book that has helped millions give up smoking. Here he applies those principals to healthy eating and weight loss. It's king od a mind over impulse kind of philosophy. I am in a similar situation trying to apply a whole food vegan diet in hopes of improving my neuropathy. I too have that frusteration with food and balance. I got this book on kindle . It's an easy read but had some very simple but profound wisdom in how we can rethink our relationship with food and dieting.

    Allen Carr's Easy Way for Women to Lose Weight:


    https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Women-Weig...



  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2018

    stephilosphy,

    If you really want a method for finding meat repulsive, here is a secret weapon: just go online and find pictorial evidence of the unspeakably appalling ways those mammals and birds are treated.

    Even the so called "grass fed beef" (and since when can beef, which is dead body parts, eat anything), we don't know what they go thru, and if anything, there may be even less quality/ethics control on how they are treated, compared to large factory farms.

    Bon appetit for wholesome foods :)


  • Nas
    Nas Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2018

    I was eating very healthy for years prior my diagnosis, no sugar, warm water and lemon first thing in the morning, a bittt of carb, exercise, but booooom got breast cancer at age 38 with no family history at all, I believe stress is the most important fact and if by eating unhealthy feeling more stressed it's not helping, try to enjoy whatever you eating, your healthy smoothyv And your yummy milkshake... just don't feel guilty, enjoy it!!!!!!!!!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited August 2018

    Nas, ditto for me but I was 53. Stressful relationship with my husband was bad for years. Much better now.

  • Nas
    Nas Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2018

    Meow13, I strongly believe stress is the most important reason for all this diseases these days, I was under lots of stress as well and what pissesme off is that I can not relax yet, and still stressing over little things🙈

  • DATNY
    DATNY Member Posts: 358
    edited August 2018

    It can also be the other way around. Cancer is there, stretching all physical resources, which in turn makes someone being easily stressed out. At least this is how it was for me.

  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited August 2018

    when I was in the middle of my worst year it wasn't the chemo year but the survivorship year.

    I would day rather than eating the milkshake or whatever and feeling bad.

    Invite someone. Go our doe the milk shake. Sit under some trees and really enjoy a positive experience.

    Let food be a small little gift in a difficult time not something to punish yourself with.


  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2018

    Oxygen, sorry, but I must disagree here. Yes to that part where you say, cattle and birds are often kept in appaling conditions. And I would add - by buying such meat, people express their consent to those conditions.

    BUT everybody can choose what they buy and eat. I am a meat eater, meaning I like to eat meat. When I don't have meat, I crave eggs. Maybe I just need the protein, I don't know. We eat veal, lamb, rabbits and chicken - all of which has spent a nice life nearby. The cows with their young I see every day when I look out of my window. They know nothing but mother's milk and grass from a very, very large mountain pasture. The sheep are kept similarly by a family we know. They give us the lamb, we give them our honey. Rabbits are from our neighbour. chicken from an organic farm nearby. (Eggs I get from my brother) I believe everybody can choose to renounce the meet that has been kept in atrocious conditions. Unfortunately we are an inland country, so I don't have any good sources for sea creatures. But there are three different kinds of freshwater fish in our freezer - my aunt lives by a lake and brings fish - again in exchange for our mountain honey.

    Well, this is just to express - not all animals have to be kept in bad conditions. And there's no point in stopping eating meat just because this happens somewhere. Because it's the same with fruit and vegetables - they are spreyed every week against various deseases and pests, the vegetable beds are sprayed with pesticides hundred times.... and again - people can choose not to buy such produce. (I'm lucky enough to have family orchards situated in a nature reserve area, so not only are they never sprayed with anything, but there are like 4 cars a DAY that go near our orchards. That's the reason we habe bees.)

    My eating was quite healthy before dx, I would say. We eat meat, broth from bones+veggies, we eat fruit and veggies every day a lot. I do love chocolate or ice-cream and various sweets like home made pies etc. But maybe with all the running and caring for garden and orchards - I have never been over BMI 20 my entire life (not counting 2 pregnancies of course). And bam - at 38 I found my lump. But there was a huge family stress (parents) AND two maternal aunts got BC some 5 years ago. So I think these 2 factors are my reasons I got bc.

    now in chemo, I eat just about anything I have an appetite for. I don't want to do any big changes. I still eat a lot of fruit and veggies and meat but I especially crave eggs. I just eat what I am able to. I plan to make some changes after I finish treatment. But I want to take on some more exercise.

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2018

    Stephilosophy, don't punish yourself... Occasional treat won't bring cancer back. I believe it's more about the overal habits. It's easier for me, as there are no fast foods here in the country, it must be difficult for people who constantly pass such temptations. I don't think I would be able to pass an ice-cream stall every day without buying some....

    DATNY - I cannot agree more! Great point.

  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2018

    jaboo, as I said, I think stephilosophy is being hard on herself, but she asked for suggestions on how to not want meat. You don't have to justify your eating decisions to anyone.


  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2018

    Oxygen, I was just giving my way of avoiding unfairly/cruelly grown food (meat, fruit, vegetables)... I didn't mean it as justyfiyng myself, sorry if that sounds this way. But maybe I was, I don't know. I hope my post is not too offensive in any way? I got the feeling Stephilosophy was asking more about generally avoiding unhealthy food, which I addressed in my next post...

  • stephilosphy00
    stephilosphy00 Member Posts: 386
    edited August 2018

    Hi Jaboo, I am just curious that you said you don't eat fast food but unfortunately you still got cancer at young age. So obviously your cancer was caused by something else instead of eating habits?

  • JaBoo
    JaBoo Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2018

    Stephilosophy, as I've already learned in this forum - it's a crap shoot and nobody knows the answer for "why me?“ I've put some guesses as to why I got cancer above, in the long post... To summarize - there was a year-long huge family stress right before my diagnosis PLUS two maternal aunts had breast cancer some years back. So maybe the stress nudged my already defective genes. who knows.

    Well, I really don't eat any fast food, not on a regular basis. Maybe 3-5 times a year I guess 😀There's simply no opportunity to buy some here. But I wish it would be so simple, if somebody could say - hey, I eat healthy, I won't get any cancer! Unfortunatelly, nobody knows.



  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited August 2018

    I will never dispute that a healthy diet is good for the body however, guilt and anxiety over what goes in ones mouth simply sucks s bit more joy out of your life unecessarily. Food is a source of pleasure as well as socialization. Not suggesting that you eat burgers and cookies all day, everyday but never feel guilty about treating yourself. I find that being compulsive about diet or exercise sucks too much joy out of life, and what’s the point of living without joy

  • hapa
    hapa Member Posts: 920
    edited August 2018

    stephilosophy - I was a freaking vegan when I was diagnosed, eating no processed or deep fried foods, or alcohol. And a trail runner, putting in about 20 miles/week. And I still got cancer. I kind of sailed through chemo though, and so far am sailing through BMX with immediate recon as well, physically at least (the mental part is the hardest). I credit my healthy habits for that.

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