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  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    I recently returned home from 3 trips and had gastric-intestinal issues that hung on for about 10days. It resolved finally, and then I had another short bout. Weird that this comes up, but I’m glad it did. I do the FIT test and it’s just swabbing onto a card that you mail off, easy peasy.

    In the early spring of 2013, I broke out in a rash that turned out to be an auto-immune disorder. I took steroids and a chemo called methotrexate. Finally got it under control and off the drugs in August of ‘15 and found my tumor about the same time. Could my low white counts have allowed my cancer to grow? Maybe so. I’ll be really curious to see my counts this week at my check up. They were up slightly last time, to about half of what they should be.

    Great news, Meadow!!

    Great to see you Cathy and Val!

  • Insideout2
    Insideout2 Member Posts: 128
    edited August 2018

    Meadow and others hitting milestones. Thank you for your posts. It is comforting for me to see posts from those diagnosed years ago moving forward.


  • Meadow
    Meadow Member Posts: 2,007
    edited August 2018

    Thanks everyone for the warm wishes .You all know how to make a girl feel loved. Gentle hugs to all in treatment, to those with new diagnosis. Sending prayers of healing your way.

  • Cathytoo
    Cathytoo Member Posts: 667
    edited August 2018
    1. LoveMyVizsla...Good to see you here. You and I are on our way to the three year mark. You were diagnosed 10/5/15.....I was diagnosed 10/13. I hear different opinions about counting forward. But, if we’re counting from diagnosis...we’re only two months away‼️ Holding my breath. (Just realized that I have my Dx date as 11/13 but that was my date of surgery
  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    My MO counts from my first surgery date, which was 12/10.

    I have my annual MRI with contrast, and mammogram tomorrow. I also volunteered to participate in a research study, so I’ll be having a mammogram with contrast too. Seeing a PA instead of my MO. Can’t wait to see where my white counts are.

  • Meow0369
    Meow0369 Member Posts: 156
    edited August 2018

    Hi all, I don't get to post very often but try to read time to time. I just had my check up with my dr. and I swear I leave there so depressed. I think I should change dr.s but will it matter, will it be more of the same because its TN? Do you ladies leave the your dr apt feeling good and positive? He just goes over my labs which is good but says it's not reliable. He asks if I have pain, I say no. I ask if there's any new info for TN he says no but can do a scan for me if I want which Ive never done. Did he offer it becasue theres a need, he said it isnt recommended. But if it TN then does it need to be caught at earliest stage even tho it could turn mets? Should I get a scan? I don't know how to feel but sad. Ive been trying so hard to move on I even went back to school. I don't necessarily need a Peter Pan type either. Any advice thanks!

    I also asked about getting on HRT with bio identical he said it really wouldn't benefit but says to talk to OBGYN. I have mixed views from two different drs. One says do them for better quality of life and the other that is Onco Obgyn says not to rock the boat the verdict is still out there. Are any of you ladies use HRT? Since we are TN. I had hysterectomy last year.

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2018

    Meow - you are not alone. I too felt sad after getting “good” news at my follow up. We feel how we feel, as my wise father always says.

    If you feel your doctor is negative, maybe do switch - my first was so serious and sad faced, it drove me insane.

    As for scans, I’ve had none. My center does not do any scans unless symptoms appear. I’m really fine with this because I know the anxiety of scans would be too much.

    I know it is so cliche, but I really concentrate on living day by day and getting the most out of every moment. It’s the only way I don’t get enraged to be honest. There are no guarantees and no do overs.

    I hope you feel better soon. Peaks and valleys, right?

    Hugs.


  • Meow0369
    Meow0369 Member Posts: 156
    edited August 2018

    VL22, Thank you for your reply, I had tears as I read it. Your right it is peaks and valley's. I know there are a lot of ladies that do go on for many years without re-occurrence, or none at all. my mother is one that did't have one for 29 years and if she had a bilateral mx she may have never had the other breast affected. So I need to change drs one that can make me feel confident. He didn't tell me I could have spread out my treatments when I couldn't get out of bed. He said it months afterward. Thats just wrong. I only stayed because of insurance at the time.

    May I ask how many treatments you did since we are close on our stages? I did 4 out of the recommended 4-6 dd.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited August 2018

    Hi, I am brand new to these boards. DXd in July with IDC, grade 3, 3.8cm tumor, TNBC. The tested me for Androgen positivity and mine was 90%+ pos.

    I just completed the first round of my chemo (6 rounds of Taxotere/Carboplatin). Luckily I seem to have had a great response to the chemo because my lump (easily felt by me) is substantially smaller.

    Are any of you TNBCs also DES daughters?


  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2018

    Meow - I had dd AC 4 times and then Taxol weekly for 12 weeks. 20 weeks total.

    There’s another women who is TN ( her screen name will come to me) who had to quit chemo after her first treatment because of her reaction to it and she’s been cancer free for a few years

  • Cathytoo
    Cathytoo Member Posts: 667
    edited August 2018

    Counting YearsNED - from diagnosis, surgery, last day of treatment?

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    My MRI and mammogram came back good today. White counts back down, but because the other numbers are normal they aren’t going to do anything.

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2018

    LoveMyViszla - congrats!

  • Hats2
    Hats2 Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2018

    It's great to see members reporting good news. Meadow what a great attitude and picture! LoveMyVizsla good news is always welcome have your white counts been mostly low since finishing treatment? I'm trying to figure out what my MO is going to watch as meaningful changes. It all seems random to me.

  • urdrago71
    urdrago71 Member Posts: 559
    edited August 2018

    Hello all, Its been so nice to see the older members drop in and saying hello.thank you, it means a lot to me..

    I've finished chemo next step surgery. However my MO talks about chemo again if the tumor is larger than 1cm. Last Ultasound showed 1.6 to 1.9 cm. How many have been on another round chemo after surgery? I get to stop blood work, and no date yet about port removal. My MO beleive my GS will use the port. Any other information will be useful .. Sending good vibes.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2018

    urdrago71,

    I think it is almost standard practice now for TN's to get more chemo post tx if the tumor is more than 1 cm. I am doing Xeloda, but I have also heard of people doing an IV chemo. I figure it's worth throwing everything we have at it.

    Rebekah

  • urdrago71
    urdrago71 Member Posts: 559
    edited August 2018

    rdeesides, thanks for responding I rather not do more infusions if I dont have to.. at this point my MO said, im a candidate for trial without details of drug since I'm waiting on surgery date of Oct. and than pathology report.

    Xeloda is oral pill right? What kind of SE's have u had with it, if any??

  • JudiJo
    JudiJo Member Posts: 17
    edited August 2018

    I am currently taking Xeloda. I start my fifth cycle on Friday. The biggest side effects are hand & foot and "loose stools". The symptoms are pretty manageable and your doctor can adjust the dosing and the schedule if the symptoms are too severe. Check out the Xeloda and TNBC page if you haven't already. Lots of handy hints.


  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2018

    what is the protocol for xeloda? I haven’t been offered anything other than the 4 DD AC and 4 DD taxol. I have one treatment left then that’s it. If there is more I can do I’d like to do it all now.

    Thank you for any info

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    My surgeon removed my port when I had my re-excision, about a month post chemo.

    My white counts are chronically low, and were pre-cancer, due to my version of lupus.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2018

    Thanks for all the congrats. I am having a blast with this tiny new one. Md Anderson and my cancer center count from date of DX. I was told Xeloda is now standard if there is residual tumor 1 cm or more. More in the kitchen sink the better.

    I have MO anxiety. Once I talk with her I feel better, but getting there I need meds.

    So glad to hear from you ladies. I try to live in the here and now. It’s easier the further I get but any small thing can trigger those recurrence thoughts.

    Val

  • Jennifer522
    Jennifer522 Member Posts: 254
    edited August 2018

    cccmc2, My understanding is Xeloda is being used if you had chemo first and then surgery and there is residual (live cancer) found at surgery. You can always ask your MO about it since it seems you had surgery first.

    I had 7 mm residual and I am on Xeloda. Starting round 6 tomorrow. It made me stage ypT1b.

    I am nearing the end of treatment and I too am wondering what's next? I did ask my MO about aspirin or vitamin D. Sounds like aspirin will be recommended. I know there is a clinical trial going on for aspirin for HER- . It's a pretty high dose 325mg, so not a baby aspirin but a regular full strength one.

    Val, I take a ativan before going to appts. I hate that I need to but when I didn't I would be sitting in the waiting room with my heart beating out of my chest.

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2018

    Thank you Ladies.

    Yes, I did have my surgery first. I was misdiagnosed as E+. Very frustrating as I’ll never know if the Chemotherapy is working. However there isn’t anything I can do but move forward and be as positive as I can. I just notice from time to time others with similar doagnosis as me getting other treatments besides AC & Taxol. I have asked about radiation and I guess because I had clean margins, lymph nodes , and Had a mastectomy, I don’t “need” radiation. That’s what my MO told me. I am going to ask about the other chemotherapies. I also asked about getting a prophylactic mastectomy on the other side, as I have very dense breast tissue. My surgeon thinks it’s unnecessary and we should just closely monitor with 3D imaging. She did say that if I’m obsessing over it we can revisit the prophylactic mastectomy. Any thoughts on that? Maybe I just don’t have a very aggressive onc team? I just want to do everything I possibly can now while im in fighting mode. I pray that none of have have to come back to this stage.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited August 2018

    cccmc2 - I'm in the same boat. I had surgery first because both my biopsy and pathology put me as er+. It was weak but it was there - weak staining of about 10% of cells. The Oncotype put me as under their threshold for er+ and then my MO started treating me as tnbc-like.

    I had a lumpectomy so I'm having radiation. I understand that they only do rads post mastectomy if there are lymph nodes or margins are super close to chest wall etc.

    I don't think Xeloda is even approved for early stage patients in my province so I doubt anyone will be recommending it to me. I will ask my MO about the aspirin. I think that might be worthwhile trying.

    I'll be finished rads in a couple weeks & then I guess we just exercise, eat well, monitor ourselves, go for our checkups and otherwise we go on living our lives.

    My mood about this vacillates a lot - sometimes I'm stuck in the "gack, what if it comes back? The odds of it coming back are not insignificant...." and other days I'm more "I'll just assume I'm in the cured camp & will live to a ripe old cranky age" Being busy doing other things helps.

    And as much as I appreciate this board, I think I will lock myself out for periods of time (I run productivity apps like RescueTime and Cold Turkey on my devices) because I think I need to stop thinking about it, kwim?

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2018

    I also have to take breaks from the Board and all things cancer related . I think that’s probaly normal for most. I hope everyone is having a fabulous day!!

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    cccmc2, I had surgery first too and was Stage IIA. I wanted a lumpectomy, so had rads. If I had a mastectomy, I wouldn’t have needed rads. If my MO mentioned Xeloda I don’t remember. I do remember her bringing up Zometa, but I’m not a candidate because I have good bones.

    Since you guys are my people 😁, do any of you have lymphedema in your arm? I have it in my breast so I know what that Is like, but now I’m wondering if it is kicking off in my arm after I had two mammograms in one day last week. I’m wondering what it feels like. I don’t think I have any visible swelling, but I might have my husband measure my arms to ease my mind.

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2018

    i have not had any lymphedema. I’m hoping I don’t with only 2 nodes removed, but I know it’s still possible. Good idea to measure! Hopefully it’s not to uncomfortable..

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2018

    I only had four removed, but this is just par for the course for me. Both arms are about the same size.

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2018

    Love - I had a mammogram recently and immediately following the side of my Breast was tight and sore feeling. Sometimes my fingers feel stiff. I had a cording issue after surgery in June 2017 and that also returned for a week.

    I’ve heard that if you’ve had any nodes removed, you are always at risk to develope lymphedema

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2018

    I have lymphedema on my side with lymph nodes removed. It spread to my chest area. I have laser therapy twice weekly. I also have the Flexi touch machine that does at home massage to the affected areas. It's made a difference. We did not notice any lymphedema till my 2 year from dx mark. It was exactly a year after rads.

    Val

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