Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    ohhhh Mizsissy...feel better!

    Rebecca
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy, hope you are feeling better and back to your upbeat self soon. Let us know what happens in the ER.
    Amera
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy........You hang in there and be sure to let us know what you find out in the ER.

    Robbin.......WOW! Excellent! You've got the white blood count problem solved now. I bet this is just a "once in a journey" problem for you and things will now be much better!

    Melia, How did your onc appointment go yesterday?

    Ilene, Melia, and any other "Wednesday Chemo Gal" this week.........GOOD LUCK. As you sit there during the treatment, just envision pac man charaters attacking any sneaky cancer cell that might have escaped into your body. Wham! Got 'em! We January gals are going to win this nasty battle that we didn't sign up to fight in the first place! :-) We will win and next year at this time we will be back on these boards encouraging others who are making the journey.

    Is there anybody in the January group that is doing CMF chemo or am I the only one?

    Where have you been sirgen? Everything O.K. with you?
    Take care of yourselves, ladies.

    Rita
  • Rodie
    Rodie Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2007
    Hi Girls: I like reading all the updates. Have had such nausea and stomach problems from AC#2. Any one else having insomnia? Tomorrow I meet with onc. head nurse, last week for 2nd treatment found I was anemic so had shot and will have another one tomorrow. Was buzzed this week. Can't remember who had pics with buzz but you girls look so cute that way. It doesn't bother me going out like that--hatless. Looks cute.

    Ireland: I read your comment about being a 19 on onco--me too and I've had the same doubts--after each session. That gray area--is it worth it. Of course, loved ones say absolutely but like you I wonder. The nausea and fatigue just get me down so.

    T4T: what a great guy you are, thanks for posting here.
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    GilRodie

    Yes indeed my sleep is very disturbed. What a strange paradox, exhausted to the point that you can not think, yet awake all through the night. I found that I would fall asleep around 8 or so, and then be up by about 1, and then stay up until 3 or 4. Thankfully it passed after about day 10 I think, and then I started to sleep through the night.

    Rebecca
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    OK,ladies I'm back safe and sound. What a Comedy of Errors!

    1:30 PM I call Oncology. Nurse puts me on hold, talks to the doctor, says the reason I'm feeling bad is that I didn't get the neupogen shots doctor ordered, that I was given wrong information about my blood counts being high enough. Told me to go to the emergency room. I said, why can't I just come in now and get my shot? She says because the emergency room needs to evaluate me. But what if they don't have neupogen, I ask. Nurse says they'll give it to me if they need it.
    1:35 Am feeling worse so ask nurse if I can get off phone call husband to come get me (35 minutes from work and back again) before I get shakier. She reluctantly hangs up.
    1:40 Call husband; he's in a car pool and has to make arrangements for other guys to get home another way so he'll call me back.
    1:42 Nurse calls again...something about appointments..by this time I'm getting stressed and ask her to call back
    1:45 Husband calls to say he's coming.
    2:30 Husband arrives, we go to emergency.
    3:15 We arrive at emergency. They put me in a consult waiting room and we're there until 4:30, when someone comes in to get my blood.
    5:10 They come and tell me to get undressed and put me in a bedroom. Husband is getting hungry, bored and cranky.
    Nurse comes in and tells me my blood count has dropped from 13 to 4.2 which she doesn't think is good. ER doesn't have Nuepogen. Can I give her the number of my onc so she can call them and try to get some?
    5:15 ER Doctor comes in and starts to evaluate me.
    5:18 Nurse comes in to tell doctor she can't get the neupogen because the onc's office is closed.
    5:20 ER Doctor says that we're still waiting for blood test results and I may not need neupogen anyway (what did the nurse just tell me?!!)
    7:15 We've been waiting. Doctor comes in and tells me my blood is normal. But I should DEFINITELY go for shot of Neupogen tomorrow morning. So I go home after no treatment whatsoever.

    What is going on here?

    Well, I feel pretty tired but OK. I guess one trip to the ER is par for the course, but please...NEVER AGAIN!!!!

    Mizsissy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Hi all, I joined the low WBC with a fever club last night. So I'm now on horse-pill sized anti-biotics and went in today for a neulasta shot. From reading everyone's previous posts I feel like a time bomb, just waiting for my bones to start hurting. How long after the shot did you start feeling side effects? I'd hoped to be finally back to work this week, but no luck so far. Spent 3 hours in the onc office today with blood work and IV fluids. I just can't seem to catch a break with this chemo stuff. But listening to all of you with such positive attitudes really helps.

    Amera - those scarves are gorgeous. My hair is just starting to fall out, but I hate the thought of wearing my wig. I think I'm going to try to just go with scarves.

    GilRodie - I've had insomnia problems too. Not sure if it's related to chemo or not, but very frustrating especially since we all need our rest. I hope you are able to start sleeping soon.

    Mizsissy - I am anxiously awaiting your next post. I hope everything at the emergency room went OK and that you are feeling much better very soon.

    T4T - I can't stop thinking about your wife (especially when the fever hit last night). I hope she is doing well, she's lucky to have you!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Mizsissy - so glad to hear you are back home! What a nightmare. All those hours in the hospital for nothing! I hope tomorrow is much better for you.

  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi Girls,

    Wow, gone for 2 days and had tons of reading to catch up on everyone. Long trip up to Maine and back and really glad to be home.

    Mizsissy, hope you're feeling better and sorry about the frustrating trip to the ER.

    Jan, hope you don't have as hard of a time with the Naulasta shots, hang in there!

    Here's another site for head gear. I have 1, already ordered 2 more. When I wear a scarf, I feel like I'm fixing it all the time and don't feel too secure. These bouve's really stay on your head well and are really easy, just slip on and wrap and fashionable. They are a bit pricy, but worth it.

    http://www.bouve.com/

    Good luck to anyone going for chemo tomorrow!

    hugs,
    Lynn
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Welcome back Mizsissy! What a circus! I hope you're keeping a journal because this will be an award-winning chapter! So glad that your counts were O.K. We were worried about you!

    Rita
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Welcome back Lynn! We missed you!
    Rita
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007

    RitaJean: And that was the minor drama that was going on today...I'm not even going to get into the OTHER one!.....actually the other two, threee...what a day!!!

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    For some not-so-pricy, but rather funky (and comfortable) headgear try http://www.janasbandanas.com/ I have three of these, and they take a bit of practice to tie (there is a video on the site) but once you get it, they stay on, and look great!

    I am glad you are feeling better Mizsissy!

    Rebecca
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited February 2007
    Hello all, time to check in. Today, it's been exactly one week since my chemo. I feel great - a little tired, I do suddenly have problems with my blood pressure, but I'm being watched like a hawk. I went to the oncologist office, which is in the hospital, for my blood test. My favorite nurse did that, and it sure takes a lot longer than going to the outpatient lab. But it's like visiting friends. "Have you had lunch." "Do you want something to drink?" Great people. I mentioned the side effects that I have experienced (lack of appetite, fatigue and slight nausea) and the nurse said that only having such minor side effects is very rare. I also mentioned that I had no pain whatsoever after the Neulasta shot. That too was possible, but rare. So, I am an oddity.
    And then I read about poor Tae, who is experiencing it all. I hope you feel better soon. And Mizsissy, send your emergency room bills to the oncology office. You don't deserve to pay for those... They should pay you for pain and suffering.
    One of advantage of going to the doctor during the middle of the day - you get to enjoy the sun. After an arctic freeze of a number of weeks, we suddenly had 57 degrees today. Tomorrow it's back to freezing.
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2007
    Hi All,
    Mizsissy, you had such a terrible time in the ER. I am really sorry, and hope you are feeling better.
    Today was my onc visit, went fine. He gave me a perscription for a mouthwash for the sores; it's benadryl, maalox, and novacain ... I am swabbing it on the sores with a qtip, otherwise find my whole mouth is numb, including my tongue. But it works and allows me to eat, so that's good. After this I am using biotene everyday; I stopped about a week after chemo.

    All my blood work looks good for round 2 of a/c tomorrow. Then I will be halfway thru, and will have 12 weekly taxols. I am stage 2, grade 3, triple negative, which is why the taxol. Nodes were clear, but the grade and size of the tumor (4cm) makes him feel the taxol is a good idea. It is interesting (and reassuring) that he doesn't feel that triple neg is that big a deal.

    Also, he said my tumor marker was 13.5, which he says is normal. Does anyone know anything about that? He did say he likes to have it as a benchmark but that some drs don't put much stock in it.

    I also asked him about tea as I had read not to drink it .. he said to go ahead and enjoy it. He also said an occasional drink is fine midway thru chemo treatments. I haven't had anything at all and thought I wasn't supposed to. What do you drs say about that?

    Hope tomorrow is a good day for everyone. Stay strong!

    So off to bed early tonight ... not looking forward to tomorrow.

    Melia
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hello again,

    I am so wound up from today I can't sleep and I'm afraid to take anything because it doesn't feel like a good idea..to make yourself feel weaker when your counts are low..

    Thank you all for your empathy on my trip to ER...I had enough melodrama today to last through the rest of chemo. Yeah, I wish I could send the bill to the onc's office; they wouldn't even give me a decent receipt when I left so I will have to wrestle with the billing office before we can get a reimbursement from our tax-free medical expense account. We overstuffed it this year. It's embarrassing to be such a huge financial liability.

    Sounds like we're all losing our hair now. It's kind of like a religious thing; you have to go through this. Maybe we should think of it as some kind of ritual purification.

    Melia, what is this about "tumor markers." No one told me what mine was. How can a tumor be *normal*?!

    You know, I wish we had some kind of bar chart where we could see where everyone was on their chemo, whose getting which on what days.

    Aladora, how are you doing? We are still waiting for an update!!!

    Mizsissy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy, I logged on early to find out what had happened. What a trip. Glad they weren't too concerned (or should they have been?). This whole thing is such a rollercoaster. I swear, we know more about cancer and chemo than many other medical professionals. Scary, isn't it?

    Getting ready for tomorrow--drinking lots of water, getting in one last run, stocking the kitchen with comfort foods. I keep hoping my counts are okay as I didn't get the boosting shots. I think I'm getting a cold though. Wonder if that will delay things. Hope everyone has a good (better) day.
    Amera
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    I dunno really what a tumor marker is, other than it's a blood test that theoretically tracks tumor activity throughout your body, so if it's normal, it's just a sign that there are no mets. The onc said that lots of drs don't put much faith in it, but he likes to have it just as a benchmark. I was glad it was normal, whatever that is, since I have had enough abnormal to last me a while!

    Good luck to all of us doing chemo today. It's one more item to cross off our lists of things to do ....

    Melia
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Anyone else *not* getting Neulesta or other boosting shots?
    I'm wondering if I'm the only one.
    Amera
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi Amera,

    I didn't get any shots either. However I'm thinking it might be because I'm on a three week schedule. I might have heard somthing like 3 week schedules give your body a chance to rebuild the wbc on it's own. Something like that. I'll be asking my Onc when I see him on Friday. I do know that I'll have blood work before my chemo on Friday though.

    Lynn
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    WTF Amera?!!! You are NOT getting Neulasta or Neupogen?!! I knew you were an awful time and now I'm worried!!!

    Maybe you should get a second opinion on this from another oncologist?!!!

    Lynn, you seem to be doing OK. I really don't want to scare anybody unnecessarily. Maybe you're getting lower doses, more widely spaced...!
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    I will certainly ask tomorrow, but the onc didn't seem to think it was necessary as she said as Lynn did, the 3 weeks apart gives your body a chance to rebuild counts. I think I have done relatively well with stuff. Just the day 5 funk like most of us and the stomach bug that lasted a day or two. The onc said they would only give me the shots if/when I needed them rather than have me suffer with the bone pain. She keeps saying this is because I'm so young. I guess 41 is young in breast cancer land. We shall see.
    Amera
  • thomcat
    thomcat Member Posts: 356
    edited February 2007
    Hi Jan gals:

    I'm from the Dec 2006 group and read your postings every now and then. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who gets the run around with the oncologist.

    You girls hang in there with the AC - it stinks but will be over soon.

    Hugs to all,

    Cathy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007
    Amera - my onc had not planned to give me neulasta unless I needed it. So if I hadn't been hit by the fever I would have avoided it. Otherwise, they would have let my counts recover on their own. However, now that I've had such a problem it looks like I'll get the shots from now on. It amazes me how much our treatments all vary - I guess it's good that these things are customized to our individual circumstances. Good luck tomorrow.

    Mizsissy & all - I'd be happy to make an attempt at a chart of who is going for chemo and when. If you all want to PM me with your schedules I'll try to put something together.

    Robertin - I'm a little jealous of you I seem to have a talent for having every side effect possible. I'm glad you are getting through it so well!

    Lynn & RSheehy - thanks for the scarf sites. I'm still feeling that 'I hate my wig' thing so I ordered some more scarves. Now I just have to wait for the hair to go.

    Speaking of hair, for those who have already lost it - - I am hoping my anticipation of this loss is worse than the reality of it. I can't stop thinking about it, but I am hopeful that once it is gone I can deal with and move on?
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Hi everyone,
    Glad you are better, Mizsissy. Sorry you had to deal with the ER.
    Amera, I am not getting any shots either. I think it is the 3 week regiment. my Onc told me if I had chemo every 2 weeks, I would have to get the shots.She also said I would be getting the same dose if I were going either 2 or 3 weeks. The only difference is the time space in between.
    Anyone experiencing any finger pain? One of my finger tops is swollen and kinda throbbing. Last night I had a fever of 100.2. I think my finger is infected. I will call the onc office in a few minutes when they open.
    Jan, are you feeling better today?
    Viddie
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Viddie - I'm still feeling OK after the neulasta shot. My back hurt last night and this morning, but nothing terrible. I am keeping my fingers crossed that it won't get any worse! Here's hoping this will be a "normal" day and I can get some work done.

  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi Mizsissy,

    I don't think I'm getting anything out of the ordinary. There are many women getting tx for breastcancer that get it on 3 week intervals. I think that 'dose dense' means closer together, not more chemo. I believe I am actually getting higher doses than the women doing 2 week intervals because the tx is further apart, the dose is higher. Also, in the Taxotere literature I have, it indicates 3 week intervals for dosing.

    We are all different women with different Dr.'s and just because everyone isn't doing the same thing doesn't necessarily mean that someone is getting the wrong treatment.

    Lynn
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Amera, I'm not getting the shots either but I've just had one treatment. I am also having the CMF and not the AC chemo and it is on a "every three week" schedule. I hope I don't have to have them as they don't sound like they are much fun.

    Amera, Carolin, and Mer 1957..........good luck tomorrow with your treatments. I hope you experience no (or very few) side affects. Good luck to anyone else who is having a treatment tomorrow.

    Terry...I will be thinking about you tomorrow when you have your first treatment. I know it's scary, but the actual treatment is very do-able. We'll keep our fingers crossed that you experience no side affects. Drink lots of water..both today, before, and during your treatment. Then drink a lot more on the days immediately following the treatment. The water helps to wash the chemicals out of your body. You will do fine!

    Glad you're feeling better Mizsissy!

    Melia and Ilene how are you doing today? Pamper yourself if you need to..... you deserve it!

    Take care everyone.
    Rita
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hi Lynn,

    Thanx for your post...I really didn't want to start a panic here. I'm probably still in a panic mode from yesterday.

    Both the oncology nurse and the ER doctor told me I'd HAD to have my neupogen shot this AM and the appointment was set up. We called this AM to make sure we knew which clinic to go to, and were told that there is no appointment, that they will not give me Neupogen...so this comedy of errors continues.

    But I don't feel as shaky as yesterday so maybe I'll be OK.

    Mizsissy
  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2007
    I am on a three week cycle (TAC) and I am getting the Neulasta shot. My onc didn't even present it as optional. In my case I am sure it was a good idea since I have three small children at home...one of whom is in daycare (you do the math).

    Jan-as far as the hair goes, I think the anticipation was the worst part. Mine is just about gone now, and I agonized and agonized while waiting for the bad hair day, and then when it came it was not as horrible as I thought it would be. It was distressing, messy and a bit uncomfortable, but I was much better after a session with my buzzer. Hang in there....you can do it!

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