2018 Running Thread

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  • out_and_about
    out_and_about Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2018

    TwinkleCat- That's terrible, I'm so sorry! No idea about whether running would be ok. I would guess that if it doesn't feel worse you could keep going, at least that is what I'd probably do. Thinking about you, hoping for the best.

  • Onegoodfriend
    Onegoodfriend Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2018

    may I just say this thread makes me smile! I did run 2 weeks post sx- my bc said I could run for 10 minutes-Everyone is different for sure- im 63 - did 30 smart minutes ( in my opinion lol ).

    Fast forward 2 months on arimidex now- I am able to do a bit more now but between the insomnia & hot flashes- after doing the following, I’m exhausted by sundown & im not much working anymore #grateful:

    Making the bed- dishwasher- cleaning bathrooms & shower- me showering - 3 or 4 trips a week to local health food store for fruit and veggies- cut up and roast veggies- prepare food for my husband and I- cut up mangos with avocado & red peppers-

    Do laundry- watch law and order- run 3-4 times a week early morning 2-4 miles 15 minute miles.

    Am I being too hard on myself?

    Is it because I do not feel sick ( never did )?

    I’m harried 🙄

    Thank you-

    Ogf xo

  • Runrcrb
    Runrcrb Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2018

    Twinklecat - I'm sorry to read of your mets. As to running, I say do whatever you can. My doctors have always supported my desire to get back to something as soon as I could. My RO said no swimming during radiation; I learned to ease back into running after each surgery. But all encouraged movement of some sort during every phase. So, if you are feeling up to a run, go for a run. And if it's too hard, then slow down and walk.

    Onegoodfriend, you are being hard on yourself. Take it from one who is also hard on herself. It's taken me 18+ months to get comfortable with sometimes, this is all I've got and that's OK. This cancer thing takes a toll physically; I think many of us ignore (or can't fathom) the emotional effects - of the shock of cancer, it's treatment, and the ongoing drugs such as AI. Keep doing what you can and join me on my journey to accept that it'll take a while to get back to where I was 2.5 years ago and that I might not!



  • ReadyAbout
    ReadyAbout Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2018

    TwinkleCat: I am so sorry to hear about the mets. Ugh. You will do so much better than the vast majority of women because you are a runner. Being in shape helps us bounce back from procedures that sideline others for much longer. I don’t know about running with mets but I assume your drs will give you the ok. Please keep us posted on your treatments and your running! I am in your corner, cheering loudly, and am praying for you. {big hug}

  • TwinkleCat
    TwinkleCat Member Posts: 85
    edited August 2018

    Great news! My MO gave me the all clear to continue running!

  • out_and_about
    out_and_about Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2018

    Great news that you can keep running TwinkleCat! I really think it helps so much both physically and emotionally.

    I had my last round of chemo on Wednesday and met with the radiation oncologist yesterday. Looks like I am a candidate for a shorter radiation protocol, only 3.5 weeks! Hooray! My RO said if I was running through chemo, he doesn't think this is going to stop me, just to be smart about it (haha what they all say). I go on the 29th for a preparation appointment, I think he said a CT scan. I can't swim during radiation, which I had been hoping to get back into now that I moved closer to a good lap swimming pool, but I can wait. Somehow 3.5 weeks sounds so much easier to handle than 6.

  • Onegoodfriend
    Onegoodfriend Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2018

    wow! Thank you so much!!

    Your words are very soothing to me & helpful. Much appreciated- :)

  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited August 2018

    I am just 2.5 weeks out from umx and dying to go for a run. I know it's too early for me, so I'm posting here instead. So nice to find a like-minded group. My post-op pathology was much worse than expected so I am worried about when or if I will be able to get back to the thing I love so much. Not that I was ever fast or anywhere near as accomplished as so many of you!

    Runcrb, I really appreciate your words. I'm terrible at giving myself a break -- and have also been totally bowled over by the emotional component to this.

    twinklecat - so sorry to hear about your mets, but glad your doctors have said you can keep running. Long may you feel up to it!

    outandabout - congrats on your shorter rads course! I have been thinking about swimming if I can't run -- good to know it's not an option during rads!

    onegoodfriend - it sounds like you are doing lots but I so empathise with feeling like you could/should be doing more. That is me all over!


  • ChasSuz
    ChasSuz Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2018

    Hi Ladies! I am just getting back into running after 6+ weeks off after single mastectomy/immediate direct to implant, 27 lymph nodes, lumpectomy & SNB on right. 6 days after my plastic surgeon cleared me to run, finally, I had my port placed and was told not to run for another 1-2 weeks. I cried real tears for the first time in a medical appointment. Luckily I ran 3 of the 5 available days! I shaved off a couple of days from a week since my chemo was starting at day 8.

    So, now I see what my body can do during dose dense AC and then 12 weekly Taxol. I have run 8 half marathons, a few 12ks, and a few 10ks. I just started running at age 37 and have dealt with femoral neck stress fracture and femoral neck stress reaction in those few short years!

    I really hope I can run my beloved Charleston Half, which is on January 12. If I stay on schedule I'll finish chemo the last week of the year--I REALLY hope the holidays don't postpone that. I've thought about some short local races during treatment. I just want to do as much as I can without tearing my body down. Really psyched to have found this group!

    Suzanne

  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited August 2018

    Question for those of you who started running somewhat recently after surgery -- what did you wear?? I am 3 weeks out now and was thinking I might try a slow jog this weekend, but I can't imagine wrestling myself into a sports bra (or bra of any sort). I also had a single mx and axillary node removal and can't stand any pressure on that side.... any suggestions?

    chaz/suzanne - this line of yours sums it up perfectly for me: "I just want to do as much as I can without tearing my body down." I hope the timing all works out such that you can run your half! I'm a bit behind you in terms of starting chemo but was thinking of signing up for something in Feb or March to have something to look forward to. And thanks for the heads up about no running after port placement -- that wouldn't ever have occurred to me!

  • Runrcrb
    Runrcrb Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2018

    Beeline, I had two zip front bras that I used when I started walking (faster than a stroll). I didn't run until I could get the sports bra that actually supported me over my head and on. I had my port placed during the mastectomy so didn't have a separate guideline for that. I will suggest starting slow versus jumping back in to running. I had a sentinel node dissection prior to my mastectomy and started running within a few days - I attribute doing to much to the cording that showed up a week later.


  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited August 2018

    Thanks runcrb, that's great advice. I will downgrade my plans to something just faster than a stroll for now. I think I am probably just overly anxious to get back to something that feels "normal."

  • ReadyAbout
    ReadyAbout Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2018

    beeline: I bought some front zip bras from Athleta and wore those as soon as they were comfortable. I still wear them all the time; I bought a few from Target but I don't like those nearly as much because they aren't soft and after surgery I was all about soft and cuddly. I began hiking shortly after bmx, but couldn't even conceive of running until 5 weeks after. Spin class and elliptical are good options for cardio. I did spin 3 weeks after surgery and just stayed in the saddle until a week or two later when I felt that my arms could handle the stress of supporting my upper body. I notice that if I do too much, it nudges the tissue expanders a little out of place and then it feels uncomfortable. I coach tennis and I can tell that the TEs are not happy after just a few days of practice, lol. I am having exchange surgery soon and won't be able to do much for awhile after. Cancer recover requires a lot of waiting.

  • Skier-girl
    Skier-girl Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2018

    Hey fellow runners!!

    Quick questions regarding compression sleeve.

    I do not have any signs of lymphedema. Probably due to being active and lean!!! I did have a mastectomy and nodes removed.

    Are any of you wearing a compression sleeve although you have no signs or symptoms? My PT told me it isn't necessary, but... I feel you girls know a ton more than most.

    Thanks

  • ReadyAbout
    ReadyAbout Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2018

    I had same surgery and I currently wear a sleeve on the side that had snb removal because A) I had cording on that side, B) I had cellulitis on that side and C) with my luck, I will totally get LE. I read somewhere that cellulitis increases the chance of LE. I have a good friend who is a PT and does a ton of work with lymphedema patients and she urged me to wear a sleeve for the first year or so after surgery. She also said that active people tend not to get bad LE because we are quick to get it treated. Hope this helps. I think I asked a question similar to yours on one of the LE boards and they all said they wished they had worn a sleeve after surgery.

  • Runrcrb
    Runrcrb Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2018

    skiergirl, i wore a sleeve and glove last year but have not been using one this year. Some lymphadema spring/summer of 2017. I had diep reconstruction in Dec 2017 so stopped activity for a bit. Restarted walking, then swimming and running and didn't restart the sleeve. so good so far. I never would have worn a sleeve if I hadn't had some issues. And honestly, more of my swelling was trunk and i thing related to the axillary scar blocking flow. had that revised in july (and some extra boob fat removed) and feel tons better.

  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited September 2018

    I'm hope everyone is out enjoying the long weekend. I am happy to report I went for my first post-surgery run, about 4.5 weeks out. Thanks to the good advice here I waited until I could tolerate a proper sports bra (though think I will invest in something softer and less constricting for the future). I felt a bit sore in my armpit and down the inside of my arm afterwards, but nothing too bad and felt SO GOOD getting out there again!

  • Runrcrb
    Runrcrb Member Posts: 577
    edited September 2018

    yay Beeline- glad you had a good experience. I’m sitting here thinking about the fact that my trunk doesn’t hurt after my run this morning. Final reconstruction surgery was 5 weeks ago. Maybe I’m finally on the other side of this breast cancer thing!

    Enjoy the day

  • ComeOn2019
    ComeOn2019 Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2018

    Hi everyone! I’m new to the site and super excited to find a running group! I will admit, when I started my chemo journey in June I did have big plans to keep “running”.. which I was able to do the first two rounds to an extent, but mindset and physical exhaustion has dampened that more as time has gone on.. but as the original post says, sometimes walking is running! I have definitely been more active than many and have been able to go for at least one, sometimes two challenging hikes each round.

    I am SO anxious to get my last chemo over with (early Oct) and ease back into at least a light running schedule before surgeries begin. I have waffled between prepectoral and pectoral implants for recon, but the more reassuring things I’ve read here on prepectoral I’m feeling better about it.. which makes me feel great! I just want to get back to my usual activities ASAP

  • beeline
    beeline Member Posts: 308
    edited September 2018

    Hi ComeOn! I am behind you in this journey and already finding it much harder to keep up any running than I had hoped. Just went for all of my second run since umx 6.5 weeks ago -- and I start AC chemo this afternoon so who knows when I will feel like it again! It's always great to hear from other runners and how you're making it work (or not so much) through all of this. I went for no recon in part to be able to get back to running more quickly but still really wasn't up to it until 4 weeks out. Hope you fair better than I did. Keep us posted!

  • ReadyAbout
    ReadyAbout Member Posts: 211
    edited September 2018

    I had bmx and recon on 5/16 and am still not running - an infection returned in my left side 4 days before my exchange surgery on 9/4 so I had surgery to take out the infected TE and am flat and waiting for next two months. Have two more surgeries ahead. In the meantime, I've had high hamstring tendinopathy for 18 months so I got a 2nd PRP injection last week to try and fix it. The funny thing is that I've had two infections in the last 3 months that made me very sick, but both times I could tell when I was back to feeling like myself because I started feeling more anxious/depressed about not running than the reconstructive surgeries. All of you who are back to running, I'm so happy for you! Please log some miles, fast or slow, for me!

  • Piksie
    Piksie Member Posts: 161
    edited September 2018

    I'm on day 5 of my 2nd AC infusion and feeling great. I'm considering running/walking a Spartan Sprint (3-5 mile obstacle course race) on Day 11 of my 3rd infusion. I'd be with several friends for emotional support and a strong man to carry me off the trail if needed (which will NOT happen). I won't be running for time, so I can skip any obstacle if needed.

    I had a second UMX and ALND on 8/17 and have been given the green light to exercise as able from BS. I'm hoping that with a compression sleeve and a good WBC, MO will concur.

    Am I crazy? I'm afraid I'm just setting myself up to be disappointed, but this would do so much for my psyche!!! Have any of you done an organized race during chemo?

  • duffyzmom
    duffyzmom Member Posts: 261
    edited September 2018

    Piksie - not this time around but 8 years ago when I was undergoing RCHOP for lymphoma I did two organized races during trip. A ten miler after 1st round and a half marathon after 3 round. Neither were PRs but definitely did a lot for my spirits. Especially finishing the half with no head covering bald and proud.

  • Piksie
    Piksie Member Posts: 161
    edited September 2018

    Thank you, duffyzmom. Gives me hope that I can drag my shiny bald head over the Spartan fire jump!

  • Veganrunner66
    Veganrunner66 Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2018

    Hi. I am new here. I had a double mastectomy on October 15 for IDC on left. I had tissue expanders put in during the surgery and have had one fill so far. I am 52 and have been a runner my whole life. I had plans to do a marathon at the end of October but had to scrap that plan. I am so eager to get back out there but I don’t want to mess up the results of the reconstruction. I meet with my PS tomorrow and will ask but I’m dreading they will say no vigorous activity. Does anyone have experience with running that has negatively affected outcome of recon? Would gentle, slow jogging be a problem? I’ve been walking but it’s just not the same. Running is my mental health tool. It’s difficult to deal with the stress of all this without my go-to coping tool. Thanks for any advice.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2018

    Hi Veganrunner!

    My surgeons (breast for mastectomy and plastic for recon) gave me two weeks of no running restriction after any procedure. If drains involved I was not allowed to run until drains out or two weeks - whichever was soonest. Same for upper extremity weight lifting, cycling, and snowboarding. I was allowed to walk during the 2 weeks of restricted running periods - which to me meant hiking and snowshoeing was allowed too. I was hiking above 10k elevation for 8 miles within 5 days of bilateral mastectomy... with drains in!

    Of course recon size may be a factor. My recon implants are only 250cc each and are pre-pec (on top of, not under pectorals). I imagine there could be longer periods of restrictions for larger tissue expansion and implants due to strain on tissues, but that could also depend on how great your sports bras are - you must wear one. I have read on these boards though that some surgeons don't want any vigorous activity and to keep HR below a certain level for month - ugh! I hope your surgeon is not in that mindset. My plastic surgeon treated me like an athlete from the first appointment and every step of the way involved a discussion about specifically what I can and cannot do during each season (I'm 49 - runner, mountain biker, hiker, snowboarder, and a few other sports).

    Hope you get to go running this week! Agree it is the best for mental health :)

  • Veganrunner66
    Veganrunner66 Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2018

    Hi Andraxo, thanks for responding. Sounds like you had a good medical team. :) Had my post op with the breast surgeon and second saline fill with plastic surgeon. The PS said no running and no upper body workouts for 3 more weeks (6 weeks total post surgery). I begged for slow jogging but was told walking, biking, and lower body workouts were all they would approve. Apparently they worry that the pocket holding the expanders will be stretched out incorrectly. She really stressed that the long term results could be compromised. Very disappointed but since she put it that way, it's hard to argue. I have expanders under the muscle, not sure if that makes a difference and I also have a smaller chest. Although it will be bigger now. Lol. I'm thinking a turkey trot will be at 5.5 weeks so I might plan for that... something low key and fun. Take care.

  • stephincanada
    stephincanada Member Posts: 228
    edited November 2018

    ReadyAbout,

    Did the PRP injections work for you? Every step I have taken since February hurts and I am at my wits’ end. I will try anything.

    Thanks.

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited January 2019

    2019 Running Thread


    ok ladies.. 2019 thread as started



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