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  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited June 2018

    TT---ooh, yes 3-5 hours is quite a hike. I bet you will find her in Richmond! Dr Nadia Blanchet looks promising!!



  • MinuteAtATime
    MinuteAtATime Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2018

    I've been off the boards for a while, kind of wanting to forget about this whole thing. However, I really need revision surgery. I have tons of rippling, animation, and my right boob is dropping down and towards the right. So, I went to a new PS here at Kaiser who my friend used and loved, and who gets great reviews. He pretty much wants to start from scratch and is a strong advocate of pre-pectoral implants and in fact only does that. He says that it will require the use of alloderm which will get attached to my ribs or muscle (I can't remember which now) and that b/c of that, I will feel achey for a while (I think up to a month or more) after surgery. Also, he said recovery is 6 weeks, drains 1-2 weeks. Dang! With all that time and pain, I feel like I might as well get autologous surgery and forget the implants altogether. I asked him if fat grafting alone would solve my problems but he doesn't think they will, especially for the long term even if it's ok in the short run.

    So, I'm a bit confused and frustrated. Has anyone here found that Fat Grafting fixed your rippling and animation? what about the dropping? (My right breast has dropped to below where my left breast is, and they are both lower than they used to be.) Am I crazy to think of getting autologous breast reconstruction at this point?

  • Lanne2389
    Lanne2389 Member Posts: 229
    edited July 2018

    Hi Minute - you're not crazy to consider autologous surgery. I'm switching from tissue expanders to DIEP surgery - I can't stand the feeling of the expanders and have had too much nerve pain to think implants will solve it. If your insurance will cover it, it is a viable option. Check out the 2018 DIEP board - lots of ladies have just finished surgery and are sharing their experiences

    Lanne

  • MinuteAtATime
    MinuteAtATime Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2018

    Thank you Lanne! I will check it out.

  • TrmTab
    TrmTab Member Posts: 832
    edited July 2018

    Minute - I am 8 months post exchange and starting to look for a new PS for revision...what concerns me with your new Dr is he is simply offering you what he does which wasn't really what you were looking for. As I am in the looking process, if someone simply offers me what they do vs what I am looking for, that is my signal to make another appointment with someone else and keep looking. In my first round of this, I accepted a lot by the BS and PS as to what was best for me...but I have learned a lot in the nearly 3 years since this all started for me and I hope to be much more discerning the second time around.

  • blessedinthismess
    blessedinthismess Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2018

    Hello ladies! I haven't had my exchange yet, and I don't even have a date, but I am thinking it might be in October. I have questions, and although I've tried to browse topics and posts, there are so many that I get overwhelmed trying to find the answers. They might be stupid questions, and this might not be the correct place to ask, but here goes...

    I am getting to the end of my fills, and I know this is my ONE chance to get to the size that I'll be comfortable with. When you had your exchange, how do the implants compare in size with your expanders? I know the implants won't be hard, or sticking straight out like these lovely expanders do, but will the size be pretty close to what I am seeing now? Also, I held implants in my hands at my consultation before surgery, and I remember them feeling heavy. I assume they use the same amount/size implant as the saline that I am carrying now? I am getting the gummy implants. I'm afraid that I'll regret the size or have back trouble if I go too big, although I was a DD before surgery and never had back trouble. I don't necessarily want to be a DD, and would be happy with a healthy C, but I just don't want to wake up after surgery and be drastically smaller.

    I plan to discuss these things with my PS when I go for a fill next week and I know he can answer some of these questions, but I would rather hear your experiences and know how things actually feel and look from your perspective. Thanks in advance and feel free to redirect me if necessary.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2018

    Blessed - I'm sure others will come along to answer more of your questions, but here are a few of my thoughts.

    I had Allergan 410s and have never regretted the cohesive silicone. Some people think they are heavier, but my natural breasts were always horribly heavy so I don't notice a problem. In addition, I wanted to go smaller as long as I had decent cleavage.

    You're right, the implants will not have even the projection that the TEs do. Unfortunately talking about cup size or bra size is not relevant since each one of is different. How close they will look to the TEs depends on your surgeon, your chest size, your height, whether he uses alloderm, and a hundred other variables. You should go to Breast Implant 101, read the header, provide your stats as requeste, repeat your questions and ask Whippetmom for her recommendation.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics...


  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited July 2018

    Minute, what Kaiser do you go to? I had my Allergan 410 gummies done by Dr. Stephen West in Fontana. He is amazing. I was filled to 420 and have 475 FF. They are under muscle and no rippling or animation. I didn’t have drains and no need for fat grafting. I am 3 1/2 years out. I love them.

    PM me if you wish. I was a B before and asked for the same outcome and if you were to be able to compare cup sizes they are perfect.

    Robin


  • MinuteAtATime
    MinuteAtATime Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2018

    TrmTab: Thank you for your feedback--that's a good point. I did end up making an appointment for a 2nd opinion with another PS who is apparantly more conventional to see what she says.

    Robinblessed: I'm in Northern, not Southern California--seeing docs in N.Cal. That's great that you had such a great outcome!

    I also spoke with a physician's assistant this week who scheduled my 2nd opinion. She said that most subpectorals require 3 rounds of fat grafting and that 1 round generally doesn't fix the problem.

    Anyone else here used a PS in Northern California Kaiser?

    Thanks!


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2018

    Minute: WhippetMom keeps a list of surgeons around the country. You can post at the Breast Implant 101 thread - link that I posted three messages above. Or you can send her a PM.

  • Rascalsmom
    Rascalsmom Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2018

    I had my exchange surgery this morning at Mercy Hospital Edmond Oklahoma. It was fast. They treat me so well. They all have good sense of humor and make it great. I'm wrapped for 3 days. I am drunk. Isn't that what you do on your birthday? I'll unwrap Friday morning. This old decrepit 66 year old biddy is very happy she chose reconstruction.

  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited July 2018

    Rascalmom your post made me smile. You seem like an adorable lady! I am glad everything went well. Happy Birthday!! Here is to a great outcome!!

    Shoregirl

  • Rascalsmom
    Rascalsmom Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2018

    I had exchange yesterday. I'm bandaged and wrapped in an ace bandage. I just readjusted the wrap as it was wrinkled up and uncomfortable so I peeked under the wraps. I'm suppose to leave them on until Friday then put a "soft bra" on. First, I look so flat. I got 440 cc implants. And second, I don't own a bra....will have to go buy some tomorrow. Don't have a clue of what to get.

    Any advice will be appreciated.

  • Rascalsmom
    Rascalsmom Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2018

    I need to add, implants are high profile. My rib cage is 33"

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2018

    Rascal - don't spend a lot of money on bras yet. It will take 3-6 months before you can see what your implants will really look like. In the mean time, check with your PS to see what he will allow. Some say no underwire, some say only underwire. I bought Danskin & Fruit of the Loom bras at WalMart to get me through the first 6 weeks. Then get professionally measured, since 90% of us were wearing the wrong size already, and implants don't translate very well to traditional bra sizes.

  • DebAL
    DebAL Member Posts: 877
    edited July 2018

    Hi everyone, just thought I would ask on this thread too..Will I be ok for a beach vacation 7 weeks after exchange and fat grafting? No plans to get in the water if any doubt about healing. My surgery date got changed and is closer to vacation than I planned. Thank you for any advice!







  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2018

    Deb - I'd ask your doctor. He/she may not want you in the heat. Otherwise I was healed enough to make a trip.

  • DebAL
    DebAL Member Posts: 877
    edited July 2018

    Thanks minus two, it's not too terribly hot there and I will use common sense. PS knows I'm going. Assuming most bruising that can be seen anyway, will be healed. Good to know you were healed enough. Appreciate the response!

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited July 2018

    Rascalsmom and DebAL please ask your doctor about what to wear or not wear for bras. I had a lot of swelling post exchange, so my PS just wanted me in the soft surgical bra for about 10 days. 

  • Rascalsmom
    Rascalsmom Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2018

    PS just said soft bra and nothing else. Of course I was at that point mildly under the influence of pharmaceutical potions. I will get to walmart tomorrow and see if they have something before I try jcpenney and kohls.

  • MinuteAtATime
    MinuteAtATime Member Posts: 76
    edited July 2018

    I agree about asking your surgeon--call them and bug them. I used a zip up (made for post surgery) camisole, and then switched to zip front sports bras.

    https://www.target.com/s/zip+front+sports+bra


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2018

    It really is important to bug your doc about what they want YOU to use. Each of us is different and all of our surgeries are different. For general recommendations, below is the "bra" thread. It's not very active but had some great ideas.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics...

  • DebAL
    DebAL Member Posts: 877
    edited July 2018

    Thank you everyone, I'm just ready to get this done. My expanders have been full since before chemo..got my last one in 2 days before I started as he wouldn't fill during. They really haven't bothered me too much until lately. Not sure if it's the heat or what. Just seem to notice them more now. I appreciate all the advice!

  • Maggie2
    Maggie2 Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2018

    DebAl, I am 2 weeks PFC, also with expanders that the PS filled right before chemo started. I have also noticed that they are now bothering me more.  I was thinking that maybe it's because I'm now more focused on them and waiting for the exchange surgery on August 15, rather than focused on the side effects of chemo. When is your surgery? 

  • DebAL
    DebAL Member Posts: 877
    edited July 2018

    Hi Maggie! I can't believe we haven't " met" before on another thread given our similar timelines but maybe we have and I forgot. A friend mentioned what you said..maybe I'm focusing on it more now since chemo is over. I did really well with chemo and didn't have any side effects to deal with but maybe that is the case. I feel since my last TC on 6/2 I'm retaining a little more fluid everywhere..not terrible.. in the chest area too so I thought it was that. My exchange is August 9th so we can go through it together! I was schedule for July 18th but that was just at the 6 week mark from my last chemo. PS would have done it but said if it's no hardship on my end to wait a few weeks he would prefer to postpone. Did you do ok with chemo? My hair is growing back but I will still look like my dad for awhile. Hope you are doing well!

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited July 2018

    debAL, I also look like my dad these days. 16 weeks pfc. so funny

  • Maggie2
    Maggie2 Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2018

    DebAl, I posted a few questions on the April Chemo site and really appreciated all the helpful tips that were offered.  It is a great group.  After the first infusion, the MO tweaked some of my RX for side effects and that helped a lot for the subsequent rounds.  I still get very tired by late afternoon, but I'm doing well.  I'm also noticing water retention.  That would certainly account for the more bothersome expanders. As for hair, I did the Penguin Cold Caps.  Unfortunately, I didn't see the success that so many experienced.  But, I still have hair, though extremely thin. 

     I was a bit concerned about having the exchange surgery too soon post chemo, but my BS, MO, and PS all agree that 7 weeks between is fine. My surgery is scheduled as outpatient.  Is this typical? 

  • star2017
    star2017 Member Posts: 827
    edited July 2018

    my ps recommended doing the exchange before radiation if possible, so I actually did the exchange on the cancer side and a prophylactic mx exactly four weeks after chemo was over. I waited another month, and then started radiation.

    I think it depends how you feel, whether you feel strong enough

  • DebAL
    DebAL Member Posts: 877
    edited July 2018

    Star, I was always told I act like my dad. Now I get to look like him too. He has since passed but would be proud of how I'm trying to get through all this. I miss him.

    Maggie, the April group is awesome and I like checking back in. As far a water retention: my feet by the end of the day. A little in my hands etc and a little bit all over I think. Things just feel more full in the chest area too. I did not have this till about 2 weeks after last treatment. Glad your meds were tweaked and that it helped. Sorry about your cold caps but glad you were able to hang on to some of your hair. I think you are fine at 7 weeks too. My PS would have kept my 6 week date but I could tell if I was good with waiting he would prefer that. I will be 9 weeks out. Yes, typically outpatient and about an hour for the procedure. I'm also having fat grafting at the same time. It will be nice to compare notes with our surgeries. Not looking forward to all the activity restrictions since I'm back to normal there but will be glad to have this part done! Enjoy your weekend!

  • Maggie2
    Maggie2 Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2018

    DebAl, I still miss my Dad too.  It's already been 14 years since he passed. 

    My PS will remove the chemo port, do the implant exchange, and also some fat grafting, too. His office said it will be about  2 or 21/2 hours. With both the port and the expanders still feeling alien, I'm really looking forward to this next step. With you up first, I look forward to hearing from you.  Enjoy your weekend, too!

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