Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy
I was just wondering if anyone else is having or has had a prophylactic BMX ? If so what has your experience been like so far?
I have not seen a forum for prophylactic BMX and was wondering if I was unique , Surely Not !
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Hi Elijah.....I had it about 2 years ago without recon.
It was my second diagnosis in the opposite breast.
For me it was the best choice....
Good luck to you..if you have any questions please PM me.
Sheila
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elijahgirl-Ali84 had prophylactic BMX w/ DIEP at NOLA. You might want to PM her.
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sheila888, thanks was there a reason why you chose to go without the reconstruction
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lula73, I will definitely get in touch with her thanks
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Elijah....my decision of not having a recon was related mostly because of my age..
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I had PBMX two years ago due to carrying two gene mutations (no reconstruction.) I have to tell you, it wasn't an easy recovery. I had a LOT of issues with healing, or not healing I should say. I developed cording in my right chest wall that stetched all the way down my right arm to my wrist. I thought I'd be fine with my decision to not reconstruct, but I'm not.
All that aside, I'd still do it again. With the PALB2 and Chek2 mutations, my BC risk is high. I needed to do all I could to mitigate that, and BMX was the best way. It's still not too late for me to reconstruct. It's just finding the right time that's the issue.
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I had mine in June 2016 due to a strong family history and, as I found out later, an NF1 gene mutation, with no reconstruction and have absolutely no regrets.
For me, recovery was easy, though I was impatient as I don't like being physically inactive.
Other than having to force myself to slow down and rest, it was pretty uneventful.
My breasts were dense, big, and fibrocystic so they always hurt and I do not miss them even the slightest bit.
The short version of why I decided with no recon was that I didn't like the longer recovery times, knew I wouldn't be happy with the aesthetic end results after researching options, and that my breasts were just never that important to me due to the whole 'fibrocystic and always hurt, so do not ever touch them please' thing.
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So my insurance fell through so I will not be going to NOLA for my surgery so I am looking for a PS locally willing to do the DIEP procedure. If I can’t then the plan is to get the reconstruction at a later date. I still not sold on implants so I believe I much rather go without.
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Finally I found a PS who will do the DIEP surgery, I have an appointment on the 9th and hopefully a date will be set for the surgery. This has been a emotional rollercoaster as I had a scare in January, I lost my mother in November and my sister in March both had BC. And I carry the CHEK 2 mutation. I am so ready to get this done BC will not claim another member of my family
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I finally will be having my surgery on August 7th, I sometimes wonder if I'm really prepared. As it draws closer I find myself with so many questions, the biggest one is whether I should have the nipple sparing surgery. My surgeon said by having it that there would be a 10% chance of getting cancer by leaving the nipples. The whole point in having this surgery is to avoid any risk from ever get cancer. I also want to feel whole afterward and have a possible relationship with someone. So I am wondering if I should opt for nipple tattooing instead. I am supposed to let my surgeon know when I have my pre-op appointment on the 26th. Other questions is more about what type of bras to where and how soon can you wear them? How long is a normal hospital stay? And how difficult to move around like getting in and out of bed. I feel ready but a little anxious and just want to get this behind me.
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Hi Elijah, my BMX is not prophylactic and nipple saving is not an option but I recommend you seek out those who will be supporting you post surgery wherever you live. I went and saw a local lingerie supplier who advised me not too get too far ahead of myself. We will look at breast forms about six weeks out or when my surgeon gives me the ok. If that's what I want. She said I should be able to keep and use the bras I have unless I wish to change size or if they are push ups.
Sounds like you are on for reconstruct so different to me but same in that those who will be helping you post surgery can advise you now. I believe one of the best things about reconstruction is you can go bra less!! There are also adhesive nipples.
My understanding is each surgery can be different but you will be hospital for a few days and you will have a recovery period where you may or may not want a post surgical bra or camisole (surgeon should direct you here) that will help you manage drains if you have them. Some people are quite debilitated by the surgery (weeks out) and others cope really well and are back to normal activity within a few weeks. I would prepare for a period of weeks where you won't be able to reach up or weigh bear with your arms.
I met with a physio who has given me some exercises to prepare for surgery and to ensure in recovery we get the best possible outcome I.e. Open flexible chest with long scars. Again I realise you are looking at reconstruct so your goals are different to mine.
Please seek out the surgery threads (surgery May or June) lots of women there dealing with exactly what you are questioning about.
Good luck. -
ps. I too am very anxious and look forward to this being done and dusted. See you on the forum for surgery July (when someone creates it
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elijahgirl- I did nipple sparing but sometimes wish I’d let them go. If I did, I could confidently go braless and wouldn’t have to worry about headlights showing through clothes or a bra. 3D nipple tattoos by Vinnie Myers are the bomb. I would do those in a heartbeat.
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I had a BMX even though my cancer was in just one breast, not both. I opted for prophylactic of the other one because I did not want to have to worry (and I would have) about the remaining "clean" breast and because I was not planning on reconstruction, so I didn't want to appear lopsided. I would definitely make the same decision again. I don't have to wear a bra (yippee!) and I am learning to be comfortable with the way I look. I never was able to find a bra that fit me correctly because my right breast was so much bigger than the left. So I don't miss the bras.
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helenlouise and lula73
Thanks for your information you both provided. I think I am going to call and talk to my PS about nipple tattooing before my pre-op appointment and I am definitely reading other blogs so I will know what questions to ask.
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elijahgirl-I forgot to give you a recommendation on bra for post op. Check out the anaono site. The bras are specially made for after BC surgery by a BC warrior. They are very soft, wide stable band, with just enough support. My favorite is the full coverage pocketed bra in the make merry collection. Well worth the cost.
www.anaono.com
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Elijahgirl - I am planning on a PBMX in Fall2018. I have a plan in place, but continue to gather info. I was large breasted (32G) and the 2 diff PS along with my breast surgeon suggested reduction preceding mastectomy. I am pretty clear I don't want any autologous flaps (TRAM or DIEPetc ), and am surprisingly open to silicone implants -- I figured I would do no recon at all , but I decided to be open to it after mulling it over, reviewing images etc. I definitely surprised myself with that decision.
My reduction was done last week - so far so good -- healing well.
I have no personal hx of breast cancer -- two of my sisters passed away from BC - both dx at age 39. I have the CHEK2 mutation; along with two of my nieces (my oldest sister's girls);
Has anyone had a direct to implant recon during the mastectomy surgery?
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I had prophylactic mastectomies on 19th June because of my family history of breast cancer and my identical twin sister being diagnosed with breast cancer in October and then a few weeks later they discovered it had already spread to her liver. I opted for no reconstruction because I didn't want to go through extra pain and recovery time, plus I didn't like having large breasts and thought I would have more options if I went flat. I wore bras with forms for a few days but they made me more sore, so I'm going flat at present. I have no regrets about doing this surgery because I didn't want to have to worry about getting breast cancer. No reconstruction means no more mammograms and being able to tell right away if there's anything awry (since tumours can be hidden under reconstruction).
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I am doing prophylactic bilateral MX this fall too (high risk, multiple biopsies w/atypical changes) and was wondering what kind of pre-surgery exercises you were given to do helenlouise. I have been bumping up my power walking to get in better shape, and doing some general stretching. I had some physical therapy a couple of months ago for shoulder and neck issues, and I assume many of those exercises will help too. Could you share what information they gave you? Trying to everything I can to get ready for this.
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I am also having a prophylactic bilateral mastectomy. IDC in my left breast 7 years ago and now there is LCIS in my right. So far I am having pre-pectoral implants. Nipple/skin sparing. NOW after reading what Lula had to say I may not want to save my nipples. I HATE when my headlights come on in the grocery store or anywhere cold and usually cross my arms to hide them. I don't know if I would want that 24/7. Hmmmm.
I did genetic testing this February. I had breast cancer in 2011. Didn't do the genetic testing back then. In January of this year I started a new insurance so I got all new doctors. It was kind of devastating actually but am feeling much better about it now.
Since 2011 I have been receiving alternating mammograms/breast MRIs every 6 months. I found a new OBGYN and scheduled all my stuff. During my consultation with her she asked if I was interested in genetic counseling to see if I had BRCA1 or 2 because I was 41 when I had breast cancer and my Mom died of brain cancer. I said SURE why not! SO, I had the test. 3 weeks later I find out I do not have the BRCA1 or 2 gene mutation but I DO have a TP53 gene mutation which is much worse!!!!
It is called Li-Fraumeni syndrome. I called my Aunt to tell her finding out that she had it too and never thought to call me. ?? We have never been really close, especially since my Mother passed away 14 years ago. So now I get an oncologist.....who is WONDERFUL I must add.......He explains Li-Fraumeni to me and schedules me for all kinds of tests to establish a baseline. (Basically I am at high risk for multiple kinds of cancers, including the brain cancer my Mom passed from.) They searched for cancer everywhere.....I had ultrasounds of everything. I had to have an early colonoscopy and even had to see a dermatologist yesterday. I have a full body MRI in November. Most of my tests were in May including my 6 month breast MRI. Expecting that to be normal I was surprised to hear there was a suspicious enhancement of 6cm +.!!!!!!!! I was hoping it was benign breast tissue, but unfortunately is was not. At LEAST it is LCIS and is PRE-cancerous and contained. I am kinda in a whirlwind right now. I did break down and cry a few times.....am trying to just be present in each moment and grateful. Having this mutation doesn't mean I WILL die from Cancer of some kind. I am trying to look at each test in a positive way (lol.....kinda punny) knowing that finding cancer early is the best thing that I can do.
Thanks for reading!!
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Hi borogirl,
The exercises provided include a range of stretches. Minimum 5 each twice a day.
Starting with deep breathing, hands on lower ribs to feel rise and fall.
Head tilts left and right, to shoulder, to chest and side to side.
Shoulders raised, up to ears.
Shoulders back to feel blades come together.
Raise arms from elbow out front, push back to feel blades come together.
Arms extended out front, raise hands to shoulder.
Arms extended out front, raise arms above head. Past perpendicular for added stretch.
Arms out (like wings) rotate in circles, one way then back the other. Increasing circle size.
Arms fully extended out, rotate in circles as above.
Arms fully extended out, rotate wrists.
Arms crossed in front, stretch back, then cross the opposite way (scissor action).
Lay hands on top of each other in front of body. Create upward pressure from bottom hand. Repeat with opposite hand at bottom.
Create fists out front, clench and hold.
Stretch arms out like a crucifix and hold for several breathes.
Swing arms beside and behind body (like receiving a tip) and hold.
Place open palm above eye and swing (like throwing a dart).
Lying on side with arms out front. Slowly swing top arm over body to opposite side (opening and stretching chest). Repeat on opposite side.
I hope you can make some sense of it. The objective is to open and strengthen the fascia muscle of the chest. I find I can do most of these whilst walking. I also have peripheral neuropathy so was instructed to be careful not to over-stretch.
Good luck!
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Druanne- the headlights aren’t on 24/7, they just respond to cold and touch. Otherwise they’re very similar to before and are soft with little to no defined projection. On the bright side, if they come on in freezer section, I don’t feel it so I don’t “know it” unless I look down😂🤣😂 on the TP53 mutation, yes look at it positively. It just means you’re at higher risk and you have the heads up to be on the lookout to catch it early if it does happen.
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Druanne, you are being very brave about all the tests and surgery. It seems very wise to be having prophylactic bilateral mastectomy. When will you be having surgery? It's understandable to cry at times. I hope things go well for you.
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Thanks so much helenlouise! Doing everything I can in advance to make it as easy as possible when the time comes.
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Hello Elijahgirl,
I too have had prophylactic bilateral mastectomies d/t family hx (sisters, cousin, aunt, mother, grandmothers). I had DIEP Flap stage one Nov 2016, stage two Nov 2017 and planning on stage three (tatoos) sometime in the fall or next year. NOLA was a very incredible surgical experience; I am hoping you have a good experience with your surgical team.The entire process was overwhelming, but provided piece of mind. However, my genetic map is still what it is. And I do have a lump which is believed to be fatty necrosis for which I am having an MRI/needle biopsy this month to rule out what I am trying to prevent. Outside of this issue, the only words of advice are: scan this sight for all preoperative and postoperative suggestions for DIEP Flap surgery. You can connect with me privately for a list of things to pack for surgery and to have on hand when you go home. For the last 2 1/2 months I have been doing core strength and deep stretching once/week in a group setting (in addition to daily walking to meet US standard step goal of 10K/day). It all seemed to help with range of motion, adhesion issues and eliminating feeling like a 90 year old (and I am only in my early 50's). I feel completely great now. No one ever discussed exercise, stretching, core strength and how much improved (post diep flap) it would make me feel. I feel so much better, now. No one ever mentioned how important it was post DIEP to have a plan in place for the embarrassing topic of a bowel regime. However you accomplish a new system for that topic will only make you feel less bloated and uncomfortable. Lastly, try and avoid too much information gleaned from unmonitored and/or unqualified websites for all breast cancer prevention, surgeries, etc. It may or may not bring any help for your situation. This website is an excellent foundation for credible support, new information and references (my opinion). May God Bless your choices. Prophylactic surgeries are often misunderstood by many, but I understand and am here to offer support.
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Thank you all for all your great input since I last posted I was able to speak with my PS and am not going to have the nipple sparing. I was also able to get some of my other questions answered. I was told that I could possibly be in surgery up to 10 hrs, that I would probably be in the hospital for about 5 days provided everything goes well and to expect at least 4 drains. What I didn't expect to hear was how many people have had issues with lymphedema. And as far as getting in shape I only wish I could as I am still in physical therapy for the knee surgery I had in March. I can only pray for a speedy recovery. Thanks again everyone.
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Elijahgirl - I did my BMX on 25 April 2018. I am a BRCA! carrier so i decided to do a prophylactic BMX. I had nipple/skin sparing since it was prophylactic. I decided to keep my nipples even my doctor said that i would have a 5% risk of getting cancer. I thought that i would feel more whole if i kept them and i think that we can't control everything what is going to happen in our body. I had big boobs 34DDD so in order to be safe to save my nipples my PS left my whole skin and now i have another surgery on September to remove the extra skin and do the lifting and place my nipple in place. I had difficulties with necroses so i had to do 3 surgeries to remove the dead skin. I feel very good right now, it feels like i never had a surgery. I hope everything would go great for you and have a fast recovery. My sister had the same BRCA1 just like me so she did the BMX to without nipple sparing. I think you made a smart decision for not keeping your nipples. For me it was very long recovery just because of that , continuing doing surgery after surgery and being 11 weeks on antibiotics because of an infection that was caused by necroses.
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Elijahgirl, so you are having PBMX because you tested positive for the Chek2 Gene mutation? You don’t have a cancer diagnosis at this time? Then will they be removing any lymph nodes at the time of your BMX? If they don’t remove any lymph nodes then you should have no issues with lymphedema.
I think the advantage of PBMX is that you are healthy. You are not dealing with a cancer diagnosis and SE of chemo or radiation. I believe you will do well thru this surgery.
Praying for miraculous results!
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bella2013
bella2013, I have the CHEK2 gene mutation, my sister had it as well and we suspect that my mother had it. At this time I do not have BC. But I have had lymphoma in the past which required chemo and radiation therapy. I will be talking to my surgeons on the 26th to see if they plan on taking any lymph nodes. I am a little worried about the healing process because I had radiation across my stomach so there is a possibility that there could be complications with the DIEP. I am in the military and the PS there didn’t want to do the DIEP because of where I had the radiation plus I am diabetic. So I was referred out and found this awesome PS that was confident that the DIEP could be done with little complications if any at all. I had a scare in January when they found a suspicious mass on my right breast and a biopsy was done, fortunately it was benign. I lost my mother and my sister to BC within the last 8 months. I have had three immediate family members who have lost their battle with cancer two of which had BC. The chance of getting cancer is high and I am determined to be proactive to decrease any possibility of it returning. Thanks for the
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Joy2
I had the same thoughts as well, I wanted to feel whole as well. This is such a huge decision for anyone to have to make. And so many don't have the choice. I feel that making the choice to have a PBMX has given me a sense of empowerment over my own body. The reason I decided to not have the nipple sparing is because my PS has had great success with the nipple tattooing. And I have had cancer in the past an5% was not worth the risk and hopefully I won't have to have to many follow up surgeries. I am glad you are doing better take care.
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