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  • PaulaAtlantaGA
    PaulaAtlantaGA Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2018

    Valstim52 - Thanks for writing two years out. I'm on 9/28 radiations, headed for Xeloda and hopefully a clinical trial of Keytruda after that. Seeing someone with a diagnosis similar to mine and such a good attitude is really helpful.

    Paula

  • CallieGirl
    CallieGirl Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2018

    rdeesides

    Today was a chemo day so please forgive me if I don’t make much sense. Chemo brain is real!

    I read the linked article and looked it up on another TNBC website as well. The clinical trials required a HER2+ + or ++ to qualify. They are low expressing for HER2+, not a true TNBC. Those women wouldn’t normally get Herceptin, but the combo with Neuvax looks synergistic for them.

    Those of us with true TNBC wouldn’t qualify and likely wouldn’t receive any benefit from that treatment. I was excited when I started reading it, but realized their use of TNBC was misleading.


    Now I can count on one hand how many Taxol are left! Wednesday I have another PS consult. Really hoping the third one is the charm as I need to get a surgery date booked

  • HockeyChick_CA49
    HockeyChick_CA49 Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2018

    I've joined the TNBC club as of today. Received confirmation from my Oncologist that my HER2 status is negative (FISH). Starting chemo this Friday, dose-dense AC-T. The worst part was waiting on all the test results. Now that I know and have a treatment plan, I feel relieved. We'll see how I feel on Friday for my first treatment.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited June 2018

    CallieGirl - that makes sense. That is what I understood too, So exciting that you can count your Taxol on one hand. That's a nice feeling.

    HockeyChick - Sorry you are here, but it does feel good to get started. AC was kind of hard for me, but actually in retrospect I think it was ok. Just took some planning on knowing when I would feel tired and as long as I allowed myself the time to rest I was good. All my off weeks were good too. Let us know if you have any questions! Between all of us I think everyone has experienced most side effects probably. Be sure to eat ice during AC. Mouth sores were my worst side effect the first round because I ate the ice too lazily. The next three rounds were ok because I was more diligent.

    R


  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited June 2018

    Hi HockeyChick, hello fellow Canadian.
    Sorry you find yourself here but welcome. Be diligent with all your anti nausea meds; during the first round I'd recommend you take them whether you think you need them or not.

    I didn't eat ice during AC and yeah, I did get mouth sores at first but the prescription mouth rinse from my MO was great and so long as I used it, I was fine.

  • Reina_de_los_changos
    Reina_de_los_changos Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2018

    HockeyChick--

    So sorry for your diagnosis. You can do this! I had a breast removed and 14 rounds of chemo. Hardest thing I've ever done. But I'm a true believer that if I can do it, you can too. YOU GOT THIS!

  • HockeyChick_CA49
    HockeyChick_CA49 Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2018

    Thanks, appreciate the feedback. I live alone so I'm a bit worried about how I will react to the chemo. My family lives out west and can't be here. It sounds like the SE are manageable if I am on top of my meds (and ice chewing). I will be off work so can rest when I need to. One less thing to worry about. I want to avoid hospitalization. Glad that I will be on Neulasta.


  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2018

    Hello Hockeychick

    chiming in with others, get a script for magic mouthwash, it's fantastic on mouth sores. Also, I brushed and rinsed with Biotene(?) products. Between the two it really helped. I didn't ice my mouth. During taxol, I used frozen peas in a cooler for my hands and feet. It did help, though I wound up with a wicked case of neuropathy. Pushing 3 years out, no signs of neuropathy.

    Rdees and others, those articles always reel you in when they throw TNBC in there, give you hope and then you see that it does not work on true TNBC cancers. Unfortunately the chemos are the front-line for us.

    Ask away. There are those like me that had the kitchen sink treatment (4 chemos, mastectomy and 33 rads) and others with treatments between.

    I'm doing really good now. Was it rough? Yes, but very doable.Not that I would want to 'do' it. These boards are a lifesaver, but stay in your lane.. I look for positive threads, and definitely don't lurk over to the later stage threads. Thats just my way. I was told to do so, by a 10 year TNBC survivor. It's true. I caused myself lots of anguish by following some that are/were stage 4.


  • Flynn
    Flynn Member Posts: 307
    edited June 2018

    HockeyChick, best wishes for a smooth run of treatment. Definitely post any questions and let us know how you’re doing.

    Rebekah, too bad about that study. It sounds promising but apparently not for us. I don’t really get why they are referring to low HER2 as TNBC.

    Over the weekend, i felt a (new) bump under my arm pit. Called in and had an u/s today. It’s just a cyst. Phew. Feeling very thankful tonight.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited June 2018

    HockeyChick, I was on Neulasta & still ended up hospitalized with febrile neutropenia. Just as a back up plan, I'd consider lining up potential cleaning staff for your home and figure out grocery or meal delivery etc. You might not need it but if you do, it's nice if you have it all researched already.

    AC made me super tired. I could reheat food but cooking was beyond me. Taxol has been way easier (I pretty much feel almost normal in terms of energy levels) & many people report the same experience. So just in case, if AC feels harsh for you, just know that odds are it's not going to be like that the whole time.

    Do join the monthly chemo thread for your start time. It really helps to hash it out with people going through the same thing.

    I totally agree with Valstim about sticking to happy threads. I actually blocked certain forums so I never ever seen them. Stay in happy places!

    Flynn, yah for b9 cysts!

  • sylviaexmouthuk
    sylviaexmouthuk Member Posts: 7,847
    edited June 2018

    Hello everyone,

    I am just pooping in to say that it is exactly 13 years today since I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I still remember that day vividly.

    To those going through treatment, I hope this will give you encouragement that you can do it.

    Best wishes to all.

    Sylvia

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited June 2018

    New article on a computer program that might be able to predict which TNBC patients need which cocktail of drugs.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180619141342.htm

  • mike3121
    mike3121 Member Posts: 410
    edited June 2018

    "We hope to have this new combination in clinical trials in two to five years," Dr Nguyen said." Ahhhh, nooo way I say!

    Also, I have to disagree with this comment: "the survival rate remains only 12 months."

    MikeW.


  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited June 2018

    Waving hello to you Sylvia and congratulations on such a big milestone.

    Sending good thoughts to everyone. Special hugs to those in treatment.

  • HockeyChick_CA49
    HockeyChick_CA49 Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2018

    Sylvia - thank you for dropping by with words of encouragement and congratulations on your milestone!

    I am at the point where I don't want to tell people I am TN (outside of this forum). The way people react, it's starting to stress me out. They pretty much have me written off in 3 years.

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited June 2018

    Hi, LoveMyVizsla,

    Sorry, I've spent minimal time on the forum the past couple of werks & missed your inquiry. My oncologist referred me to a Physical / Occupational Therapy clinic that has an ongoing relationship with the Flexi-Touch company.

    I thought I would have to go to a local store that has wigs, compression sleeves, gloves, etc., so was pleased to learn that a Flexitouch representative could take my measurements right at the PT / OT clinic. Once the pump arrived, an employee came to my house to help fit the garments and show me how to use the machine. The financial impact of cancer has been devastating, but I feel lucky that I was able to retain good health insurance coverage through my former employer. They quickly approved the pump pre-authorization request.

    Lyn

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    I was originally diagnosed E+ P- in March and was whisked into surgery for a right sided mastectomy 2 weeks later. I had only met with the surgeon at that point. Surgery went as well as I could have hoped. No lymph node or vascular involvement as well as clear margins. After that I wound up changing treatments cwnters as there was one much closer to my house where I could get my Chemotherapy. When I first met with my oncologist she's informed me that where I was only 1% E+ my diagnosis was actually TN. She also stated i should have done chemotherapy first butsince I already had my surgery we would move forward from there. I partially blame myself for not taking a minute to breath or look into anything. She sounded encouraged by my surgery results but seriously how could that have been missed? I've had 3/4 of my AC tx and will do 4 taxol. Most days I Am positive but it still botherS Me that my onc doesnt feel i need a body scan due to my surgery results. Should I be OK with this? I got my pcp to do a chest ct scan. ANd that was clear. It's been a whirlwind of emotions!! Thanks for reading....

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    I was originally diagnosed E+ P- in March and was whisked into surgery for a right sided mastectomy 2 weeks later. I had only met with the surgeon at that point. Surgery went as well as I could have hoped. No lymph node or vascular involvement as well as clear margins. After that I woundup changing treatments cwnters as there was one much closer to my house where I could get my Chemotherapy. When I first met with my oncologist she's informed me that where I was only 1% E+ my diagnosis was actually TN. She also stated i should have done chemotherapy first butsince I already had my surgery we would move forward from there. I partially blame myself for not taking a minute to breath or look into anything. She sounded encouraged by my surgery results but seriously how could that have been missed? I've had 3/4 of my AC tx and will do 4 taxol. Most days I Am positive but it still botherS Me that my onc doesnt feel i need a body scan due to my surgery results. Should I be OK with this? I got my pcp to do a chest ct scan. ANd that was clear. It's been a whirlwind of emotions!! Thanks for reading....

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited June 2018

    cccmc2 - fwiw, I had surgery first as well, and I also didn't have any scans. Scans aren't done here unless there are clear clinical signs to suspect spread.


  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited June 2018

    I had surgery first too, but only because of my immune system. MOmwasnt sure she could get me through chemo. I did have a CT scan first though.

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited June 2018

    cccmc2 - my BS also failed to tell me that the “aggressive “ tumor he found hiding behind my “better” tumor during surgery was TN . I guess he didn’t want to be the bearer of bad news.

    I am at a highly ranked cancer center and they still do surgery first for small TN tumors, so my treatment would have been the same regardless. Also no scans for early stage cancers like mine. The truth is that even with TN, our prognosis is very good. Obviously, some people fall on the bad side of the stats, but these are the rules by which the medical profession adheres.

    It is a very tough breast cancer to cope with, especially when you google, which we all do! However, you seem to be getting the most aggressive treatment. Remember, so many women on here have received chemo after surgery and are living long happy lives.



  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited July 2018
  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    thank you for your replies. They really help!

  • icecolady
    icecolady Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2018

    Hi all,

    Just found this site. I'm now 68 and was diagnosed with TNBC a little over a year ago. I was T1b 0 node. Although my tumor was small and my chances were good, I was still encouraged to have 4 rounds of TC chemo and standard 15 rounds of radiation. After researching TNBC I found out that in one study years ago, T1 patients that did NOT have chemo did worse than T2 patients that did have chemo. No brainer for me! Chemo started June 13 2017 . For those who may be afraid of it, I have to say that it was not fun but not nearly as bad as my imagination. I continued to work through treatment and always kept active. I like to power walk every morning. Well, the first week after a treatment, I wouldn't call it a "power" walk, but I did keep my feet moving. Thing is, i felt SO much better by forcing myself out and about. Drink tons of water - really a lot. Flavor out that "chemo mouth" with lemon juice but keep drinking fluids. Don't worry about your hair too much. I bought a wig but wore it only once. I bought lot's of cute hats and big dangling earrings. That worked for me.

    I'm now a year out . My hair is back, my energy level is back, I'm feeling great. I'm not 100% worry free 'cause I'm a worrier - just my nature. But, I threw everything they would let me throw at this thing and I have nothing to regret. I gave myself a very good chance of being around to meet any grand-kids I might have. Now, if only my daughter and her husband would just get to it!

  • sylviaexmouthuk
    sylviaexmouthuk Member Posts: 7,847
    edited June 2018

    Hello NavyMom

    Many thanks for your kind words. I do hope all is well with you and yours.

    Fond thoughts.

    Sylvia xxxx

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited June 2018

    Hi icecolady - nice to meet you & hear how well you're doing!

  • Flynn
    Flynn Member Posts: 307
    edited June 2018

    cccm2, bc really messes with your head. It sounds like you are getting appropriate chemo. I did get a scan in the beginning but certainly many patients don’t and are fine. Try to keep positive and not think too much about things you can’t change! All you can do now is focus on the here and now. Easier said than done perhaps but it’s a good goal.


    Congrats Silvia!!

  • Flynn
    Flynn Member Posts: 307
    edited June 2018

    Icecolady, welcome! I’m so happy that your journey is going well!

  • Batesburg
    Batesburg Member Posts: 199
    edited June 2018

    I asked the Johns Hopkins "ask an expert" about TNBC recurrence and this part of the answer that was posted:

    One study found that 78.7% of TNBC patients were disease-free at 5 years. It stated that the median time to any recurrence was 1.7 years, with even 75% of all events within 3 years after diagnosis.

    Thoughts?

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2018

    Dear Sylvia

    What an inspiration. Congrats.

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