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  • wlo002
    wlo002 Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2018

    Hi everyone! I had infusion #2 on Friday...thankfully, it was only a repeat of the first side effects. My MO did reduce my Taxotere a tad because I had chemo rash and symptoms of neuropathy. On the plus side, my mass shrank from over 5 cm to 1 cm!! Talk about wanting to dance in the doc's office!

    Clare-I've had a crazy runny nose! I thought it was a side effect of the Herceptin, but my MO said it may be just dryness. She suggested a humidifier.

    InnaB-I'm 42 and working through chemo (I work from home). I only get infused every 3 weeks and I have a couple days of fatigue so extreme that my husband says he's glad breathing is involuntary. I've only missed 3 days so far...we'll see as it goes farther. I'm afraid it's beginner's luck! I'm pushing to work as much as possible knowing I still have surgery and radiation to go. I work for a company that won't blink an eye at letting me go if I reach 12 weeks of FMLA leave.

    Ingerp-love the puppies! I have 2 miniature aussies and they are family. They insist on staying in the room with me during my fatigue days that put me to bed.

  • Frog-on-the-lilypad
    Frog-on-the-lilypad Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2018

    InnaB, My first Taxol infusion went good and so did the second. With the second I did not get any dex so no steroid crash this time. Bone pains have not started yet. Next time no dex or premeds.

    I believe after listening to your job responsibilities the docs felt you do not need the stress. The thing with time sensitive jobs are that its not only about getting it done but getting it done by that specific time. You do not need that stress.

    I work as a technical recruiter and was between jobs when I found out. My whole day revolves around meeting Tech leads or interview candidates. There is no way I could have managed it. Imagine feeling nauseaus as the next candidate is waiting to see you and all you are looking for is a hole to climb into.

    Its fine, you are very brave as it is. Right now focus on getting better, feeling better. Its okay to take a few days off between infusions.

    Ingerp, your fur babies are so so cute.

  • Frog-on-the-lilypad
    Frog-on-the-lilypad Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2018

    Congrats Wlo002, it does call for a dance. How do you know about the changes, did you get a scan? I am just asking because my MO said I will not be having any scans until i finish chemo in August. Infact it is my BS who wants to schedule the scan before I go into surgery after chemo

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    had my second of four AC treatments last Thursday. It’s hard for me to judge the effects because the day after treatment I came down with a horrible cold! I’m drained. Expected though. Thankfully no fevers and I think I’m on the mend. I will say my hair definitely started shedding a lot after treatment 2. I had it buzzed today which is actually a loy easier to deal with. The hairdresser was so kind. I got a bit emotioal, and she gave me a much needed hug! Here’s to hoping I feel be better tomorrw!!

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited June 2018

    wlo, congrats on the scan! Too bad you can’t have a glass of wine to celebrate the news 😜.

    Frog, I am a tech lead, so you know exactly what I am facing at my job! I hope my MO just wanted me to relax. My company will have to cover almost all of my disability at 100% of my salary, plus I’ll add a few of vacation weeks at the end, so I guess i’ll Just stay put. Good to hear that your Taxol infusions are uneventful. Hope mine will be too.

    Both AC and T parts of my treatment are dose dense, so I will get infused every two weeks for 4 months.

    Cccmc2, feel better!

  • BigPeaches
    BigPeaches Member Posts: 266
    edited June 2018

    Had my second infusion yesterday and woke up this morning with diarrhea, fun fun, and really really sleepy. I'm at work anyway and praying for the best!

  • Proud_Patriot
    Proud_Patriot Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2018

    InnaB2018-My MO told me to work if I could. I have been getting infusions on Tuesday. Yesterday was my second. I am on TCHP every 3 weeks. I feel ok.

    My normal work schedule before BC was 10-5, M-F. I work for a small law firm where my husband is a partner. I have been there for 17 years and I am the finance department manager (head bean counter). We have had other people try to work through cancer and other serious illnesses. Some can do it, others have trouble. The partners are flexible with employees who have health issues so accommodations are not being made just because I am the partner's wife (although it helps).

    Last infusion was on Tues and I took off W-Fri. I did work from home for a few hours each day. Mostly I just answered emails and asked my assistant to handle a few things for me. Last cycle I worked the last two weeks of the cycle. I left the office between 4-5 depending on how tired I was. Today I am going in to the office around 10. I probably won't work a full day but I am going to go in to the office.


    My onc was ok with working. She says I should do what I feel that I can do (except running). I think that having a desk job and private office makes it easier to work. I also live very close to the office so I don't have a long commute. I have been able to walk every day for about half an hour with two women in my office. I has been HOT HOT HOT here (south FL) but I am trying to avoid the germy gym.

    If you feel you can work maybe you should ask your onc. Now that you have some experience with SE maybe you can work. I find that I welcomed going into the office. It beat the heck out of waiting for SE to kick in. My biggest SE is fatigue. I did have some constipation, followed by loose bowel movements (not really diarrhea just loose). I also had a UTI but I didn't miss work because of it. I went to ER after work and worked the next day.

  • Proud_Patriot
    Proud_Patriot Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2018

    Clare:


    I had my second TCHP yesterday. It was uneventful. I am getting ready to go to the office today around 10. I have had a drippy nose also. I travel with tissues. The onco nurse said it is common with TCHP.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited June 2018

    BigPeaches, so sorry! Does Imodium help?

    Proud Patriot, I think I just might cut my disability short after the AC, if my MO agrees and I won't feel that bad. The problem with what I do is that I can't work half days and have to be very alert and attentive all the time. I just don't want to let the team down if they depend on me andI won't be able to deliver. If I won't get a chemo brain and will be able to stay awake from 8 to 5, I don't see why I can't work. Time will tell, I guess!

  • AlisonR
    AlisonR Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2018

    Curious for those who a already went through ac - do the side effects stay the same or does it get progressively worse?

    My first treatment left me wiped out hardly able to get out of bed the first two days but felt great day 3 and back to work day 4.

  • Proud_Patriot
    Proud_Patriot Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2018

    Has anyone had issues with low blood pressure? Yesterday I was sitting at the table trying to eat something and I passed out. My husband called the hospital and the onc who was on call thought it sounded like I was having a low blood pressure issue. My blood pressure was 90/70 when I took it but by then I was feeling better.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    Yikes. No low BP for me but I have seen other women post that they’ve passed out—one in the shower! Hope you figure it out.

  • Maggie2
    Maggie2 Member Posts: 247
    edited June 2018

    Proud Patriot, I’m jumping in from the April chemo group. After my first T/C, my blood pressure dropped very low, about 85/55. I had such severe bone pain, headaches, and heartburn/nausea that I became way too dehydrated. The doc also hadn’t told me to cut back on my routine blood pressure meds. Once I started getting more fluids, , along with adjusting the BP meds, the blood pressure stabilized. Hope you’re doing much better

  • urdrago71
    urdrago71 Member Posts: 559
    edited June 2018

    Alison- hello I’m jumping in from April chemo. I have been thru AC and it wipes me out for the first 5 days. I had a 14 day cycle /4 doses. I think it was pretty equal SE thru the AC. But first MO had to adjust my medications. Hope that helps, if u have more question I will try to answer..


    Have a good weekemd

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    Good morning ladies! I honestly can't remember if it was here or on the Weekly Taxol thread that I was "talking" to someone about telling a parent about our dx. I finally had the conversation with my mom yesterday (turning 90 on Tuesday!). I just mentioned partway through a phone conversation that when I see her next weekend, I'm going to have really short hair. Then told her I'd been having "some treatment" and that I had another "breast thing". She was very calm, said they were all supporting me, asked a few questions, but really it was NBD. I told her it was one step up from last time, but that I'd be fine once I got through tx.

    After the Friday night hair buzz and then going out to dinner, we went over to some friends' house last night, plus I happened to run into one of my best friends yesterday morning. I feel a need to normalize my new look, and woke up thinking about having a Fourth of July party. We're going to the big Pig Roast next weekend, and the following weekend is when my youngest (who graduated from college in May and is now in Europe) will be home for the first time in two years, so there will be some what-not going on. Anyway--I'm still not used to what I see when I catch a glimpse of myself, but several people who were at the dinner last night and did not know I'm in tx said it just looked like a cute summer haircut. ;-)

  • iwannaseeyoubebrave
    iwannaseeyoubebrave Member Posts: 226
    edited June 2018

    So today is my mom's 2nd AC infusion. She was super tired the first week but full of energy last week. And so we start again. I just hope this is a repeat of the last two weeks and things stay uneventful. She had some bone pain start up from the Nuelesta, but only because she quit taking the Claritin. She immediately starting taking it again and the pain went away, thankfully. It's been hard to keep her from making commitments to babysit her great grandbabies. I worry so much about the side affects becoming cumulative and becoming more tired, or worse, sick. I'm sure her body will tell her when to slow down.

    She's been rubbing her scalp the last couple of days and saying it's starting to feel like sandpaper. I think she's getting close to losing her hair. She has her wraps, hats and wigs on hand and ready. I'm on standby with my clippers and will be there in a heartbeat when she calls. She doesn't want to do it by herself. One day at a time.

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    does your hair grow back during taxol treatments, or just the opposite? Or is it different for everyone? Just wondering what to expect. My hair is pretty much gone since second AC treatment. I still have my eyebrows and lashes and was hoping to keep them. I have one more AC treatment then 4 taxol . The plan is to be done after that! Fingers crossed!!

    Thanks

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    ccc--no AC for me, but I *have* seen some women post that their hair started growing back when they went on Taxol following AC. I'm just not sure you can count on it. Will your Taxol be weekly? (I've never been sure about you guys who do it following AC--for us that are only doing T it's weekly for 12 weeks). I know it must seem like it's still ages away but you can kinda sorta almost see the finish line, right? Hooray??

  • cccmc2
    cccmc2 Member Posts: 131
    edited June 2018

    I will have a total of 4 taxol administered every other week.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited June 2018

    cccmc2, I am on the same regimen, please keep us posted about your Taxol experience. I hear the SE’s are a little different for once-weekly people.

    Ingerp, I was the one who kept I for from her parents. Glad to hear you mother took the news rather well. I sort of told my parents this weekend as well. Said that soon my hair will fall out, but it’s ok, just some side effect from the treatment I am getting. I said it will grow back. I hope so 😜. All in all, I said everything except for the two big ugly words: cancer and chemo. They sounded like they bought it. That said, they might think I don’t know what’s it is myself, because in the Soviet Union, where we are from originally, the doctors would hide this dx from the patients. In any case, they didn’t appear too alarmed, so thank God for the small mercies

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    Right, Inna. Good you have it out there. Your parents might ask some questions or be satisfied knowing as much as they do but at least you don’t have to worry about keeping the secret any more.

  • Proud_Patriot
    Proud_Patriot Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2018

    Thank you all for your responses to my blood pressure post. It is nice to have people to talk to about this.

    I spoke with my oncologist yesterday and she agreed with the on call onco who thought it was blood pressure related. I am not on blood pressure meds and have not had issues with high or low blood pressure. She thinks that I probably became a bit dehydrated and was not eating enough. I have lost 10 lb since my last tx.

    I get full very quickly. Yesterday I had a tiny bowl of canteloupe and felt like I had eaten a huge 10 course meal. Today I made a blueberry smoothie (blueberries, non dairy yogurt, almond milk). It tastes great but I am having trouble finishing it all. It is only about 12 oz.

    Overall SE have been unpleasant but tolerable. I have had some loose bowel movements without the frequency of diarrhea and I am extremely fatigued.

    Tonight we fly to Cleveland for our son's wedding!

  • ClareCo
    ClareCo Member Posts: 66
    edited June 2018

    Hi everybody. I hope you are all having a good day. Have any of you experienced problems with your scalp? I'm bald - I've been wearing 100 percent cotton bandanas or the occasional baseball cap. Yesterday I realized my scalp is all broken out -- I thought it was just a pimple or two but when I looked I realized my whole scalp has small red bumps. They don't all hurt like regular acne. I will ask my MO about it on Thursday when I go for infusion, but I wondered if anybody was experiencing the same thing and if anyone's found a solution. Thanks.

  • Engine104
    Engine104 Member Posts: 301
    edited June 2018

    Dear ClareCo,

    My wife also had that from her first infusion of Cytoxan and Taxetere. Others on here have reported the same thing. It sounds like this is an SE of that protocol. Try Googling that and include breastcancer.org in the query. I bet you find more info on it.

    My wife is scheduled to have her second induction this Thursday.

    All the best,

    -Larry

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited June 2018

    ClareCo, I heard that people are using Hibiclense ( same wash you had to use before the surgery) on those bumps. Good luck to you

  • ClareCo
    ClareCo Member Posts: 66
    edited June 2018

    thanks Engine104 and InnaB. I’ll post here if something works so others can know. Tomorrow is infusion day—wish it were today just to get this over with!!

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited June 2018

    ClareCo, I go for the infusion tomorrow as well. My second AC. Oh, yes, I wish these 16 weeks were over soon. Counting days, literally.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    Clare/Inna/et al.--I think I've said here before that I'm trying not to wish my summer away but I so get wanting to be on the other side of this. I was pretty peppy the first few weeks but I'm guessing during this mid-period it's starting to drag on many of us? Seems like maybe we'll all get our mojo back when the end is only a few weeks away? A month isn't all that long in the grand scheme of things, and in a month I'll get #9/12, which will mean only three more.

  • wlo002
    wlo002 Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2018

    This week I've added yet another appt to my routine...this time physical therapy. I only had 1 node removed for sentinel node biopsy, but I've developed cording in my right arm. It's been a painful experience! The therapist was able to break a couple cords today which has improved my range of motion thankfully, but I'm a little worried since I haven't had breast surgery yet and that can cause even bigger issues. Anyone else have experience and advice?

    ClareCo-I had a horrible rash on my face and scalp with my first infusion. Within a couple days, both began peeling almost like I'd had a chemical peel. My MO said it was related to Taxotere. Because of the skin issues and tingling in my hands, she reduced my dosage a little and the next infusion was better. I do notice that the break out on my scalp now seems to be follicles that still have hair and they fall out shortly after the rash. Almost like ingrown hair, I guess.

    Proud Patriot-I have low BP issues around days 4 and 5. That's also when my fatigue hits. I almost passed out a few times with my first infusion, but it improved with the second.

    Frog on the lily pad - sorry for the late response...my mass is in the RUQ of a severley deflated breast and I'm just lucky that it can easily be felt. I can't wait to have scans in August to see what they show!

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    Re: the cording, it popped up on me several times, but long after my surgery. I pretty much ignored it and it went away on its own. In my mind it was tied to weightlifting and my BS said that could be the case.

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