You Mean You’re Not Going to Fix It?!?!

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  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    I live in a small town. We have ONE dedicated breast surgeon in town. I met her today & left her office thinking I’d rather do no treatment at all than all the hoops she regurgitated in monotone. I’m two weeks out from dx & I’m just devastated. I’m small breasted with 3 lumps so I’d prefer lumpectomy but she said there’s no reconstruction with a lumpectomy (vs mastectomy)!!! I’m sorry, WHAT?? WHY?? You mean you’re not going to fix it??? I know I sound vain but I’m 48 & single & like my body & my bikini & I just want to look okay. I keep thinking I’ll look like a disfigured freak & then who will love me or how will I love myself anymore. It seems silly but damnit with all the advancements why can’t they make it look ok?? And how do I find a surgeon who doesn’t think I’m a jerk? Ty everybody. I’m heartbroken

  • Peregrinelady
    Peregrinelady Member Posts: 1,019
    edited June 2018
    So you can get a second opinion in a larger town, but if you aware small breasted with 3 lumps, “fixing it” might be a mastectomy and reconstruction.
  • Wendysch
    Wendysch Member Posts: 8
    edited June 2018

    I had two lumpectomies. I am large breasted but, the way the surgeon did my surgery you could not tell a difference after the surgery. I was amazed. I had a huge chunk taken out with three tumors. After the second lumpectomy there was a definite indentation along the surgery line, but it was not really noticeable.

    Get a second opinion, I traveled almost two hours away to have my surgery done as there was no dedicated breast surgeon available where I lived.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited June 2018

    I have heard that no reconstruction for lumpectomy or people with radiated skin. I went to a different facility because after doing a mastectomy I didn't want implants I wanted my own tissue. I did the DIEP. I am sure they can do fat transfers and fill in divits. You need to find the right plastic surgeon. Go elsewhere even if you have to travel. My neighbor had a lumpectomy and she said medicare wouldn't pay for any cosmetic fix up for her. I don't believe it. Maybe someone else on BCO has experience with fix up after lumpectomy. It should be covered under insurance for breast cancer patients.

  • Peacetoallcuzweneedit
    Peacetoallcuzweneedit Member Posts: 233
    edited June 2018

    LoriH -I am so sorry you are here and in the beginning of all this. Because the beginning is the hardest part in a sense. Lori what are your stats? I was 47 at diagnosis....I had a 6cm tumor in one breast and 3cm in the other..while I get where you are about saving what you have, and being single and liking your bikini, what are dealing with tumor wise....? There are a lot of options, seriously, you may have to travel, but they are out there...but then it also boils down to your cancer and the risks you are willing to take....

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited June 2018

    I got conflicting info on that when I was going through everything. There are "oncoplastic" techniques - where they basically push and stitch the tissue together to fill in the hole during surgery. But that can be a problem with healing sometimes and definitely makes things harder if they don't get good margins and have to go back. Radiation is also required with lumpectomy and that can further alter the tissue so that any cosmetic help would need to wait until after that.

    If your breasts are small and there are three tumors then doing a lumpectomy may just be taking too much tissue to leave you with a decent result - even if they can reach them all through one incision. And radiation would most likely make what's left smaller, firmer, and higher.

    I've gotten second opinions for everything. It's just better for my mental health to hear from more than one doctor about anything significant. I'd recommend at least consulting with someone else.


  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited June 2018

    Lorih555....I would suggest getting a second opinion at a major university teaching hospital. Good luck and keep us posted.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2018

    If you're concerned, you might look into having the other one reduced to kind of "match". I was told insurance would cover this, but I also didn't give a hoot. Two years ago I had a huge chunk taken out and definitely have a shark bite on that side, but my husband kind of likes it and I really don't think about it much at all. This time around it was a much smaller chunk and I swear you'd never know that I've had surgery. We wear our scars proudly in my family--this is just another one that is part of my life story.

  • LisaK12
    LisaK12 Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2018

    I would recommend taking one step at a time. I had two lumpectomies and they didn't get clear margins either time so I ended up needing a mastectomy anyway. (I ended up getting bilateral, for symmetry, with immediate direct-to-implant reconstruction.)

    If you are going for lumpectomies, do those first. See if they get clear margins and if any other treatment is deemed necessary (e.g. if you need radiation, which can affect the remaining tissue and skin). Worry about reconstruction later, once you're cancer free. The first step is to get rid of the cancer.

    On the other hand, you could get a mastectomy and immediate reconstruction at the same time.

  • ChelseaSculler
    ChelseaSculler Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2018

    Get a second opinion. She sounds rotten simply from a personality aspect and you don't have to work with anyone you don't like.

    That said, depending on where the lumps are, a surgeon may balk at multiple incisions. There was a moment where I was looking at a third incision and my surgeon (who did a fellowship in oncoplastics, which means she's a breast surgeon trained in plastic surgery techniques) said she would not make a patchwork breast, she'd have me do a mastectomy and reconstruction. But this should be explained to you if that's the case.

    But seriously, change doctors. I agree with dtad to go to a major teaching hospital.

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited June 2018

    what state are you in?

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited June 2018

    See a plastic surgeon who specializes in breast reconstruction.  S/he will be able to explain your options .  

    There is no doctor of any kind in my town.  The nearest breast surgeon is an hour away, but last I checked, there is no on-site plastic surgeon there.  I travelled two hours to a teaching hospital for all my breast cancer treatments.   I had two lumpectomies in a smallish breast and, when I'm standing in front of a mirror, all you can tell is that the operated-on breast is slightly perkier than the other.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    There is no federal law mandating reconstruction for a lumpectomy defect - this is why insurance is not required to cover it. The WHCRA law passed in 1998 only covers reconstruction for mastectomy. That said, some have insurance coverage available for an oncoplastic surgeon to do their lumpectomy with rearrangement of tissue at the time of lumpectomy which results in a better aesthetic outcome in many cases. Important to remember that radiation will follow a lumpectomy and may change the appearance of the breast regardless. The ratio of tumor to breast may dictate the type of surgery needed to provide the type of outcome you want. I would agree with the above posters - see a breast surgeon/plastic surgeon team in a larger area, or several, to get a better assessment of techniques and surgeries available to you. These would include lumpectomy, oncoplastic lumpectomy, direct to implant mastectomy with/without nipple sparing, expander to implant with/without nipple sparing, or autologous reconstruction using your own tissue. Be aware that not all plastic surgeons offer all of these options, so depending on what you prefer you may have to look for a provider who offers what you want.

  • Alive4Five
    Alive4Five Member Posts: 2,394
    edited June 2018

    I can't really speak much to lumpectomy/recon... As my first mammo was also my last.

    But believe me, I Get it! Vent away! That's another reason we are here :)

    Second opinion sounds good.. BUT decisions decisions. Sheesh.. ((hugs))

  • Billb464
    Billb464 Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2018

    Maybe she is unable to fix your breast after the lumpectomy to make it look normal? I too have small breast (34a maybe lol) and had the option of a lumpectomy or mx. My breast surgeon would have fixed any defects after the lumpectomy, since she also does some ps, but we decided to get a plastic surgeon to do my reconstruction after she did the lumpectomy. My concern was more about not getting clean margins, and having no choice but having to go in and get a mastectomy since I didn’t have enough breast tissue to get a 2nd lumpectomy. So she went in and took out the tumor and then when back in and took out more tissue.The PS came in behind her and did my reconstruction. My insurance paid for it all, and will pay for my breast lift on the other side plus I will eventually have to get nipple done. That said, it was good that we did take out more, since I had DCIS that we didn’t know about! These are hard decisions that we have to make, but you need to be happy with them. I don’t know how far you are from a city’s that might have better options, but I would definite look into it.

  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    Pennsylvania. T

  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    thank you everyone im so depressed. I just don’t want to do any of this!!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited June 2018

    I am understanding this correctly, that mastectomy patients can have reconstruction paid by insurance but it is not required for insurance companies to pay for cosmetic updates for lumpectomy patients?

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited June 2018

    Lorih, I've been there. Not wanting to do any of it. I wish there a better treatment option than cut, burn and poison medically of course.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    meow - yes, that is correct, under federal law. Some states have additional laws in place that augment the federal law to include a more broad application for “partial mastectomy” and some insurance companies offer coverage for this on their own, without the legal requirement

  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    meow13 I see you’re from Tampa. I’m headed there sept 1. I think actually Clearwater. Wd u say there’s good care there? I think I may need to move there *first* to find someone to help me. I just can’t believe I’m still wo a surgeon & I found the lump may 9th. So depressed

  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    oops sorry meow13 you’re not from Tampa. But I bet you already knew that Lo

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    lori - it me that lives in Tampa, and yes, this area has lots of options for care. There is both university based care and an NCI center, and also private docs. I would not wait until Sept though to seek care if you have a cancer diagnosis now.

  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    SpecialK: tysm. I’ve had these plans for years so I’m trying not to let cancer stop me from doing what I want to do. My plan is to have surgery & then head down there & do everything else assuming of course the markers are good clear whatever & they give me the a-ok. Kind of winging it re places to live but I’m focused on Clearwater. Found a great house in Dunedin but it won’t last. Either way I refuse to let this dx stop me from living My life. Gross disfigurement is still my biggest prob. I can’t get past it. I wish I cd.

  • ChelseaSculler
    ChelseaSculler Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2018

    Take a deep breath.

    And another.

    One step at a time. I think you need to ignore what that first surgeon told you and prioritize getting that second opinion. Stop thinking about gross disfigurement and all the worst case scenarios (I know it's hard, and if you can't stop thinking about it, consider talking to someone in person or getting some meds to get you past this point). Right now you just need to know what your actual options are. You are strong, and you can get through this, but as another single person I say, if you need help to get through these steps, ASK! If you can't face researching doctors, ask someone to help—family member, friend, whomever. Keep moving forward, but focus on what you can see in the headlights, don't strain to see what's in the dark.

  • Warrior2018
    Warrior2018 Member Posts: 380
    edited June 2018

    I agree with getting multiple opinions. Also, in my experience it’s been the breast surgeons that handle the lumpectomy or “getting rid of” the cancer and the plastic surgeon is the dr. that will provide the reconstruction. My plastic surgeon has been my saving grace. The whole office is so kind and understanding. My PS was so excited for my surgery date saying, “ This is the day we get rid of the cancer!!!” It just made me feel so much more positive about the procedure.


  • Lorih555
    Lorih555 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2018

    thank you so much!!! Exactly what I needed to hear. I have an appt with a dr in Harrisburg (UPMC pinnacle) Lisa Torp MD & her video is like she’s speaking directly to me. I feel better already. Still need to biopsy the third lump found on mri Thirsday then meet dr & schedule surgery. Things take longer & are more arduous when living far from good medicine. I’m trying to get past the disfigureMent but i shd be able to get rid of the cancer *and* have my body look decent in 2018. Hopefully it’ll all b ok. Tysm! great reply 🙏🏻

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited June 2018

    My ps is the most arrogant man I think I know, but he did a fantastic job for me. It would have saved me much emotional distress with the mastectomy if I knew how well it could be fixed. Mine looks so much better than the galleries of photos I have seen. You know I had skin and tissue taken from abdomen but the color match was perfect barely see the fine white line. So yes I would go to him again he originally did facelifts I might just do that.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2018

    I’m in Dunedin. Sent you a pm.

    Hi Special K!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    Hi spookiesmom!!!

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