Clinical Trial - AKT Inhibitor (MSC2363318A) and Tamoxifen
I am participating in a clinical trial that targets a gene mutation I have for the AKT1 pathway. I am just coming off of another trial for a non FDA Approved Oral SERD called LSZ102 and the FDA approved Ribociclib (Kisqali). I began that trial on 5/18/17 and progression was detected in my surveillance scans on 11/16/17. So progression occurred in less than 6 months. Fortunately the progression was minor and I noticed I was not tolerating the protocol well sometime in the 4th or 5th month. Our bodies have a way of telling us something is wrong. We should always listen. So onto the next option. I will submit another post outlining the options I considered and why I chose this trial. For now I'll just open this topic with a few details about this trial. I will be undergoing various screenings/tests (which I must pass) and a liver biopsy over the next two weeks before I begin taking the protocol.
Quick background on me - I am 3.5 years out from diagnosis. I was diagnosed Stage IV de novo with bone metastases in June of 2014 at the age of 52.
Completed Treatments:
- Tamoxifen - 18 cycles - progression in a met to spine
- Ibrance (Palbociclib)\Letrozole - 16 cycles but indeterminate liver lesions appeared by cycle 12 - lesions grew and confirmed metastases by cycle 16
- Clinical Trial Oral SERD LSZ102\Kisqali (Ribociclib) - side effects became difficult to tolerate after cycle 4. Progression in liver and bone mets confirmed in Cycle 5
Next Treatment (should all go well with screenings next week):
Official Title: A Phase I, First-in-Human, Dose Escalation Trial of MSC2363318A, a Dual p70S6K/Akt Inhibitor, in Subjects With Advanced Malignancies
Clinical Trial Identifier: NCT01971515
More details are forthcoming.
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Thanks for keeping us informed. I will be monitoring you!
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Found you Animalcrackers!! Thanks
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Hi there AnimalCrackers. Reading your posts and following your treatmetn with care and great interest, as always.
>Z<
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I’ll be reading and cheering you along too
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Oye, I'm sorry the trial did not work for you, but glad that the progression was minor. I'd like to hear why you are choosing to go onto a phase 1 trial, since these are dose escalation and you might not get an effective dose? Assuming its based on the PI3K mutation, but there are other PI3K/mTOR inhibitors around in trials, did you look at those? And other types of drugs reported to be particularly good for liver mets, like Halaven, you haven't had yet? So I'm curious about how you chose the trial you are headed for...
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Hi Animal Crackers,
Following your experience on this new trial as well. I was supposed to start the trial you just finished in August, but my tumor markers/progression escalated too quickly after failing on Ibrance and Faslodex. Both Boston and Mpls MOs decided to use Doxil first. There is some talk about using estrogen next to see if we can't make me less resistant to hormonal therapy. I hope you qualify for this new trial and it is just the right move to stop the beast.
Kimberly
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Animal Crackers.....How is it going so far for you?
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Animal crackers-wondering how the trial is going for you? I have AKT mutation also. Trial in my future. Sending love and best wishes. MJH
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hello AnimalCracker,
I will keep on reading about your trial. Good luck with it! I hope it turns out to be a breakthrough for you and all f us with the AKT mutation..
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Miaomix, glad you found the thread. I have found this trial drug to be very tolerable. I will update my thread with the details.
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Yes, Please update us on how you are doing. Hope it is going well for you.
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just had scans today. Will meet with MO on Monday. I’ve been reporting pain in my ribs to him and the trial team so I wasn’t surprised that the bone scan tech took extra pictures of my ribs today. My MO is more focused on my liver so even if there’s progression in my bones but the liver lesions shrink he’ll probably keep me on the trial. At least I hope he does. This protocol has been very tolerable. Just some minor nausea and managable diarrhea. Hoping my liver lesions have shrunk!!!!! It is hard for us all to live in 2 to 3 month increments. It’s quite the emotional roller coaster. Monday can’t come soon enough
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I hope you hear good news on Monday, particularly in the liver! Fingers crossed. Thanks for the updates.
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I met with my trial team yesterday and my scans from Friday show me to be stable with just a 10% decrease in one of my liver lesions. A decrease is a decrease no matter how small so I'll take it. Bones are stable with no new lesions. No lesions in any other organs. I am relieved and even doing a happy dance for myself. My husband and I went out to dinner last night to celebrate.
I have just started cycle 7 of this protocol. I get a break in May with no scans and just one hospital visit to start Cycle 8. I hope this continues to work for me. It is very tolerable. Just a little bit of diarrhea and minor nausea. Very manageable. And I have pretty good energy level too!
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WOOHOO! You used two of those wonderful words - stable and decrease. You have brought joy to my day just by posting those results. I just love to hear good news. I am joining you in the happy dance. I am glad that you and your DH had a celebratory dinner last night because it is certainly worth celebrating. I hope you continue having a good response with tolerable SEs and good energy level for a long time to come. WOOHOO,WOOHOO, WOOHOO!
Hugs and prayers from, Lynne
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AnimalCrackers-glad to hear this good news! yay! I've been keeping my fingers crossed for good results for those of us with the AKT mutation. Hope it keeps you stable indefinitely! Best, MJH
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I'm sorry I've been very remiss in updating this thread. I'm going to add a few details now.
The trial drug is MSC2363318A, a Dual p70S6K/Akt Inhibitor (I have the Akt mutation) and it is taken with Tamoxifen which I have previously taken as my first line of treatment almost 4 years ago. I had a good run on Tamoxifen alone back then. About a 18 rounds.
The cycle for this protocol is 21 days. I take the trial drug for 15 days and then 6 days off. Tamoxifen has no break. I maintain a dosage diary and a what I lovingly call a Poopie diary where I have to keep track of how many bms I have per day. The trial provides the diaries. The dosage diary is just a record of the date and time you take the protocol and how many pills you take of each part. The study drug is 3 pink capsules. Tamoxifen is 1 white chalky pill. I'm pretty consistent on when I take my pills. Usually 7:00am.
You can eat 2 hours before taking the protocol or take it and wait an hour before eating. Other than day one of the cycle I take it in the morning and go back to bed for an hour. I experience mild nausea and a little diarrhea on the first and second day of the cycle and after that I'm normal.
Since it a trial scenario I have to take the first dose of each cycle in clinic (at the hospital). The way that day goes is as follows:
I have to fast for blood work so usually the last time I eat is around 9:00pm the night before. I have an echocardiogram at every new cycle. That's in the morning and it takes about an hour. I don't like the echo because my breast tumor is right where they have to press with the probe. It is a little painful when they press on it for 30 minutes. But you gotta do what you gotta do. Then I go for blood work - usually 10 or 12 vials of blood. Within a half hour the blood work is back and I meet with my MO and trial team. I hand in my protocol drugs from the previous cycle along with the diaries. I have 3 ekgs performed. We discuss how I'm feeling. My MO looks that the results of the echocardiogram and ekgs and if all is well he signs off on the next cycle of drugs. By this time it is usually near noon or 1:00pm and I haven't eaten since the night before. I have to wait for the pharmacy to prepare the protocol and sometimes that takes an hour. Once I get the new cycle drugs I take them in front of someone in the trial team. We fill out the dosage diary. And then I drive home which is just about 45 minutes to an hour. I get home and EAT and usually within an hour of eating the diarrhea comes. It's not bad, it's not all day like some other protocols cause, and has been getting better each cycle.
I don't get fatigue from this drug unless I over exert myself. I work from home because the hour and 45 minute commute by train is exhausting and driving in is no better and could take longer at rush hour. I'm lucky that my employer has no problem with me working from home.
I do get little tiny itsy bitsy pimples that are barely noticeable on my face. They come and go. Some days there are none and other days there are 3 or 4 of them.
This trial drug also does not affect white or red blood cells or neutrophils so there's no neutropenia to worry about. That's probably why I am not as fatigued and have more energy. My blood work is pristine as they like tell me. As for tumor markers -the CEA is crawling up a bit but it's still single digits. The CA 15-3 is in normal range. My TMS have never really been helpful.
There are few other details I want to share but I have to look them up. There are some restrictions to being on this trial. I'll back with that info.
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Congratulations on those awesome and thanks for details Animal Crackers. This trial is an important option for people.
>Z<
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Thank you for the details of your protocol AnimalCrackers, it's very helpful to know what to expect when enrolling in clinical trials.
Very happy that you're getting good results and are not suffering from terrible side effects...
Please keep us updated...I have the AKT mutation
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I had surveillance scans on Friday, June 1 and met with my trial team today June 4. My oncologist is at ASCO so I didn’t see him today. So the good news is I continue to be stable. This clinical trial is doing well by me.
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Wonderful news AnimalCrackers! I just got my Foundation 1 and found I have the AKT mutation. I'm excited to follow your good progress
Mary
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Wooohooo Animal Crackers. Thanks for the update. Happy dancin' over here in NM.
>Z<
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Fantastic, Cathy!! Not much info out there on this AKT inhibitor, other than it does cross the blood-brain barrier so may also protect against brain mets. You are starting to rack up some time on this combo, what cycle is this now?
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thanks for the support you guys!
Cure-ious - I just started cycle 9 yesterday which sounds like a lot but doesn’t correlate to months. These cycles are short. I’m on the study drug for 15 days and off for 6 days so it is a 21 day cycle. I stay on the tamoxifen without a break. In terms of months it’ll be 6 months on June 9 which happens to be 4 years to the day since I found the lump. I should do a little happy dance for myself since I’m still here 4 years later and still have a rather good qol
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Wonderful news, Animal Crackers!
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Cathy,
I think that a BIG happy dance is an order, not a little one. Four years on June 9, WOOHOO! I am doing one for you right now and will repeat it for you on Saturday. Today is three years from the day of my diagnosis, so I will celebrate with you. May we be dancing together for many more years.
Thank you for posting the updates on your experience with the clinical trial. Stable results are always good news. WOOHOO for that, too. Oh, and my happy dance will be longer and more energetic so I cover both the scans results and the four year milestone
Hugs and prayers from, Lynne
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Quick update on my trial. The trial is closing. Apparently I am the Lone Ranger now. It’s still keeping me stable so I continue on. I never really gave it much thought - meaning what happens when a trial closes. I’m still not really sure - they are keeping me on the protocol so I’m happy about that. The SEs have been very tolerable. At least they have been for me. I get mild nausea when I go too long without eating and then take the drugs; I also get some diarrhea the first two days of the cycle and constipation the last week when I’m off the study drug but still on tamoxifen
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Animal Crackers did they tell you why it is closing? I'm so glad it continues to work for you
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MaryLark - I'm kicking myself for not getting more details about the closing of the trial. My impression was that it was no longer working for the others in the trial. I'm the sole participant with benefit from the protocol. But I will get a better answer next week when I see the trial team again.
Thanks for checking in!
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Cathy, I am glad that it is working for you and that you are able to continue the treatment. I have so many questions, but no time to ask most of them. Will you have to meet with the former clinical trial team for future check ins or follow up? Are they planning to test the drug with something other than tamoxifen in the future? Have they done any testing for try to figure out why it worked on you and only you? Seems like you are exceptional responder in this case. I know you don't have answers. I just have SO many questions. I will stop now. The most important thing, the really fantastic thing, the WOOHOO thing is that it is still working for you and you can continue taking it. I am hoping your response continues for years and years. WOOHOO!
Hugs and prayers from, Lynne
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