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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2018

    Ok, I just put a casserole of Turkey Taco Zucchini boats in the oven. First time I've tried this recipe, so I'll let you know how it comes out.

  • MAP1002
    MAP1002 Member Posts: 61
    edited June 2018

    heads

    Thanks for the pep talk! Its early. My husband is still sleeping next to me and I’m typing on my phone. So I’ll comment more a bit later.

    I appreciate the support and you nailed it! Going to have a great treat day today. Seeing Book of Mormon in the city and a great Italian lunch!

    I’ll check in more later. Again. Thanks for the support. Not many get it. They keep telling me that I’m doing great but I just get irritated that I can’t fit in some of those new clothes I bought!

    Reset tomorrow! (Although I did ok this weekend! Hot flashes have me cutting back on the weekend alcohol!

  • Capecodgirl
    Capecodgirl Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2018

    Sas- I thaw it completely. One recipe I have for cauliflower grilled cheese calls for microwaving it until it is almost dry. That worked for me for that recipe. Other recipes call for wringing it out thoroughly in a dish cloth after thawing. By this I mean squeezing all the moisture out until you have a little round ball of cauliflower in the middle of the cloth. This works well for recipes where you make cauliflower dough

  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2018

    So here's a question. What do you do if you are one of the few people around that does NOT own a microwave? I've never had a need for one.

    Also, the Turkey Taco Zucchini boats turned out delish. Will definitely keep that recipe. I can share if anyone would like.

  • Meg101
    Meg101 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2018

    I love this thread!!!

    Egads - what a great name, and you are hilarious.

    I discovered this thread yesterday and knew I'd be joining it soon. In fact, this morning I looked for it and when I couldn't find it on the first page I went into a mild panic. And then BEHOLD, I found it on page 2.

    Before menopause I averaged about 130 lbs (I'm 5'6"), When menopause hit, I shot up to 180 lbs. I swear it happened overnight, but oh well. I tried various diets, but nothing worked until I tried the Atkins diet. I learned so much about the value of protein, but not so much about veggies, fruit, and grains. I lost all the weight I had gained, but I ended up needing Angioplasty for blocked arteries, so I went off Atkins. By the time I started chemo (last year), I weighed 145 lbs. My MO told me to cut out sugar and soy to help prevent a recurrence and to get through chemo. I didn't think about weight. I only focused on eating healthier. I read some threads here at BCO suggesting a vegetarian diet to fight cancer. I started eating leafy greens, broccoli, cauliflower, and beans. By the end of chemo, I felt tired and realized the fatigue would get worse with radiation. I decided to up my protein. For the first time I tried quinoa. Loved it! I also added low sugar protein bars, chia seeds, hemp seed, healthy grains, and lots of nuts. Then I had my post radiation appointment with my MO. First came the weigh-in. I kid you not, my weight had dropped to 119lbs. What?! I wasn't trying to lose weight, I just needed more energy. Then came the AI. I heard exercise was the key to not having SEs so I began walking, then hiking up the hills around my house. I felt no aches or pains from the AI, and I had a lot of energy. Then boom, I started having massive diarrhea. I immediately stopped eating all the raw veggies, seeds and grains. The big D continued. I tried Immodium to no avail, My doctor ordered a colonoscopy and it turned out I had diverticulosis. The diarrhea persisted. Finally, the doctor told me to stop the AI. The diarrhea stopped within 24 hours of stopping the AI (Anastrazole). Who knew diarrhea was a SE of an AI? Anyway, I'm back to eating veggies, meat and fish, and no grains. All is well. I still weigh 119 lbs, and have plenty of energy. In fact, I feel better than ever.

    It wasn't until I found this thread yesterday that I realized my new eating regime is essentially the Paleo diet. It really works, especially with some mild exercise. The next thing I'm going to try is lifting weights. I'll continue to eat legumes for the protein, but no more seeds and grains.

    Does anyone have some EASY Paleo recipes? I need more variation to the usual soups and salads. Also, if anyone has any tips on how to make cookies, crackers, and other snacks which fit into the paleo diet, it would be much appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Meg

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2018

    Coach great info on the cauliflower. Could you put a bold. header above your last post, so it will be easier to find for reference later. Something like Cauliflower preparation, but bolded. My bold button isn't working. That singular post keeps it simple and is worth it's weight in cauliflower Haha

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    meg - I eat according to the Virgin diet (does not turn one back into one!), which eliminates dairy, soy, corn, gluten, sugar, eggs, and peanuts. This is an anti-inflammatory elimination diet. I find it pretty similar to Paleo, and of all the discouraged foods I have added eggs back in on occasion, and have found that dairy and sugar seem to be what trigger inflammatory response for me. Low glycemic fruits, non-starchy veggies, clean and lean protein, organic, grass fed, when available. I usually follow the Dirty Dozen/Clean Fifteen rules on what to buy organic. For a couple of easy recipes I like to make lettuce wraps or “tacos" - protein of your choice, flaked salmon or thin sliced ribeye steak are both good, I make a mayo based sauce with Just Mayo (a mayo sub without soy and eggs - it's awesome) or you can make your own with Paleo ingredients - fairly easy - and hot sauce or sriracha, then top with thinly sliced red onion and avocado. Big leaf lettuce like butter lettuce work, and I have used romaine too - but not sure what the status is on safe consumption right now. If you use sliced chicken or fish you can also use the sauce as a binder. Another easy dish uses spaghetti squash in place of pasta - and this works as long as you are including nightshade vegetables. I cut the squash in half lengthwise, place it cut side down on a parchment lined baking sheet, 40 mins at 400F. Make a sauce by sautéing some finely chopped onion and garlic in a little olive oil, add crushed San Marzano tomatoes, a big pinch of crushed red pepper flakes, and some basil and oregano - dried or fresh. Let it simmer for about 15 mins on low heat, then add some cooked shrimp, or you can let the sauce cook raw shrimp, or you can roast the shrimp by adding them on a baking sheet to the oven for about the last 8 mins of the squash cooking. Warm the shrimp through, and meanwhile use a fork to scrape out the squash and serve the shrimp marinara over the shredded squash.


  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2018

    Meg101 - You can check out the link I've inserted. There are a bunch of recipes.

    https://www.skinnytaste.com/recipes/paleo/

  • Vanmama
    Vanmama Member Posts: 103
    edited June 2018

    Thanks for the link, Junie! I found several recipes I'm interested in!

    I have tried Paleo a time or two and never stuck with it. Recently, I started back on and promptly got sick, ending up with a double ear infection, throat infection, and some kind of bronchial thing. I just wanted comfort food!

    I have decided to jump back on the wagon. I have fibromyalgia which is flaring right now and am hoping it will help with that pain. As an already overweight female, of course I gained weight on chemo and am now on Letrozole. Weight loss is already hard for me and now add in the meds...

    Thanks for starting this thread. I look for it eagerly every day and marked it as a favorite topic so it will show up right away. I need the encouragement and information I get from it!

    Laura


  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    Good morning cave chicks and welcome to Accountability Monday.....the day we all divulge our sins....eating sins that is. If you dragged out the handcuffs and leather this weekend no need to post.....feel free however, I could use a good dose of '50 Shades of Grey' from time to time :)))

    I'll start it off. Forgive me ladies, for I have sinned. Last night I went to a sushi restaurant. Before y'all gasp and say "YOU ATE RICE!!", please know that I didn't. I ordered all paleo friendly dishes....seaweed salad, korean hot-as-hades soup, chicken, beef...all in small portions. Glass o' red. Yum. My sin here falls into the category of unknown ingredients. I have to assume I had a truck load of salt, sugar and evil corn starch thickeners. My lord does hidden evil taste good! Scale...looks bad. Up 2 lbs. Now, I've been doing this a long time and know that it's water retention from the carbs and salt. I can almost guarantee the scale will be back down to normal tomorrow....almost always is. It's not often I go for Asian food (which I LOVE and make a lot of at home) because of the salts, sugars etc....I'll be suffering later today. My gastro can't handle it, even more so because of years of clean eating. I've basically launched a nuclear attack on my colon to which it will respond with a barrage of....well, you know. A blue moon treat, well worth the cheat! Back to squeaky clean today, my body will thank me!

    I'll be responding shortly to all the new peeps that posted over the weekend (I can hear you all saying 'oh great, more freaking babble, I hope her colon does erupt!')

    Soooooo.......any others wishing to step into the cave confessional? Dare ya! :))))

  • Capecodgirl
    Capecodgirl Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2018

    My sin: potato chips- again. What is wrong with me.

    I usually don't keep this kind of food in the house, but am recovering from knee surgery. I knew there would be people in and out to give me a hand and wanted to have snack foods to offer other than my usual cut up veggies. The problem when I do this is that I am the one that eats the junk food. So far I have also eaten most of a bag of cheddar cheese popcorn ( since we are confessing).

    Today will be a better day

  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    Y'all might want to back up to the Accountability Monday post (2nd up)….the following is in response to earlier posts over the weekend.

    Mimi – Again, welcome, love to have you here!On rice: Rice has amazing nutritional value. Of the Paleo no-nos it's not the worst thing to eat in the grain sector. Where it falls down a lot of the time is in the 'westernized' preparation methods. Salty/sugary/bad oil use. Unfortunately (especially for gastro suffers) it holds unfriendly properties for the colon. It's also laden with starchy carbs which can lead to weight gain. That being said, it's a paradox as it does hold it's place in good (and delicious) nutrition for millions. The following link might be of interest to you (and others), it's from my fav primal/paleo guy. It outlines his take on rice and doesn't paint it as an evil enemy, just one to consider all sides of:

    https://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-rice-unhealthy/

    MellieTX – Welcome to the crew! Low carbing during chemo….my hat goes off to you! I'm sorry about the wound & seroma, that's all you needed! Hugs! We're here to help you keep keto, and are hoping treatment is kind to you! Here is a link you might find interesting (again from my fav primal guy Mark Sisson) It's one lady's take on paleo & MS;

    https://www.marksdailyapple.com/from-ms-diagnosis-to-tedx-speaker-miracle/

    Meg – Please, PLEASE tell my 22 yr old son I'm hilarious!!…..he thinks the exact opposite! thanks, glad you got a chuckle. I'm amazed at your resolve and weight loss….you must look great! Throwing jealous fits here lol! Ok, so recipe sites I've had great luck with….

    https://www.paleohacks.com/

    www.paleohacks.com/

    http://paleomg.com/

    https://nomnompaleo.com/

    https://thepaleomama.com

    I'm adding the above links to the original post for easy reference.

    SpecialK – Awesome food ideas! I'm like you, sugar and dairy aren't my friend….along with wheat. I wanted to do the virgin diet back in the day…..they wouldn't let me…something about one night back in 1992. How long do ya' have to pay? :)))

    Capecod – There's nothing wrong with you, not a thing. Vegas baby! Just leave it there! New week, new you! Hugs!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    egads - lol! In my pre-cancer days I was successful eating South Beach/Mediterranean combined with a speedy 5-mile a day walk and was able to lose a few vanity pounds - usually before a vacay in which bathing suits would be worn and photos taken. Post-cancer and on aromatase inhibitors I could not shed the 15 pounds gained during chemo and the subsequent plethora of surgeries, also complicated by exercise restriction for those surgeries. After I was cleared to walk again I did so, and ate sensibly at 1500 cals a day of good food and lost absolutely no weight. None. I lost 22 lbs on the Virgin diet and so far, it is the only thing that has worked while I have been on anti-hormonals. I just recently did the 23andMe testing, I had done Ancestry DNA previously because I am adopted and wanted to see what my origins were as well as find potential blood relatives, and did the 23andMe for confirmation, and to connect to their database, and get the genetic stuff they offer. I had done BRCA testing prior to BMX, so I already knew those results, but one interesting thing the 23and Me testing revealed was I have the genetics for celiac. I had felt that on the experimental phase of Virgin where you add the stuff back in to test and see what causes trouble that gluten wasn't one of my strongest issues, but I am re-thinking that and wondering if I have a delayed reaction gut wise. Best for me to just avoid and eliminate the wondering so I am thinking I will cease the brown rice and brown rice pasta allowed on Virgin and go more strongly Paleo.

  • MAP1002
    MAP1002 Member Posts: 61
    edited June 2018

    Here goes! Sat- pretty much on track: Egg whites with spinach & mushrooms and bell peppers, 2 fruits, large salad with grilled chicken for lunch. (4 thin mint gs cookies! lol) Brown rice cake with organic peanut butter for snack. Sirloin tips, broccoli and brown rice-dinner

    Ahhh, but yesterday- treat day! Italian restaurant- you name it, we had it! Fried Mozz, salad, eggplant parm, veal parm, ravioli, penne with broccoli, and of course, tiramasu, ricotta cheese cake and cannoli for desert.. but soooooooooo good!

    I did go for a nice walk later in the evening, no dinner - just Rita's italian ice!

    Back on track today.. back to my psuedo paleo plan.. My usual breakfast, packed my 2 fruits and salad for lunch..

    My nutrition plan excludes wheat (only the occasional sprouted grain bread), corn, dairy and processed foods and "white foods" (potatoes, white rice, white bread). No sugar, natural or otherwise, which is very challenging after treatment, even though I've been done with EVERYTHING since December.

    Back to the gym tonight.


  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    Special - do I hear ya on the low cal-no weight loss debacle! It's cruelty in its finest form. Interestly enough I have a maternal first cousin who is celiac, and many on the paternal side with various gastro issues. I'm most likely carrying a genetic link considering my UC. I think your idea to drop the gluten, testing the waters per se, is a good one. Keep us posted if you go this way, I'm interested in your results!

    Map - you're making me sing 'oh sole mio' here!! Man do you know how to rock a cheat lol! Just to be a complete pest: eggs: eat the yolk...seriously. If most your day is clean the yolk is what keeps you full and healthy. Peanut butter, check out the label...added sugar (usually a ton, even in organic) peanuts are not nuts, they're a legume (bean). Carb city. For weight loss keep it to a dull roar if you're not losing. For any gastro issues, cut it out if diet. Your salad should have a protein...otherwise you'll get hungry. Enough nagging for you? Yeah I though so! You're doing so well, really well. The exclusion plan is excellent. Yay to the gym....pseudo paleo chicks look hot in gym clothes!;

  • nonomimi5
    nonomimi5 Member Posts: 434
    edited June 2018

    Egads,

    Thanks for the rice explanations. I have a lot of reading up to do. I know I need to cut it down, but yesterday, I had to eat some brown rice. I ate salad for breakfast, salad for lunch and i was just too hungry to not eat brown rice for dinner. My husband got 3 types of amazing looking pizzas from Eataly for himself and the kids but I didn't touch it. It was SOOOOO hard!

    Special - the DNA testing is fascinating. I should get that done for my kids. My son has a lot of allergies and chronic nasal congestion. It's from my husband who is from Europe and has asthma. I told him my cancer is from him, too.

    I am off to brisk walk/jog with the dog. Have a wonderful Monday everyone!

    Mimi

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    egads - I had surgery in '95 to repair my gastro-esophageal junction and ended up IBS-D afterward, but I am now thinking that was actually the gluten intolerance rearing its head. I also had milk issues as an infant and had to have alternative formula - way back in 1956 - my poor mom! I think that is consistent with the dairy being a problem for me now. I have been on a Femara holiday but need to restart so I am going hardcore on the diet to avoid pounds creeping their way back on. I have found that when I relax my diet, even a little, that is what happens and anti-hormonals exacerbate that. The only way to lose or maintain, for me, is to stay focused. I find I do better without cheat days - I tend to be either 100% in, or 100% out - so I will be boring on confession day, lol!

  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    Special - As an angst ridden teen my mother would often regale me tales of how, in my infancy, she would have to walk the floor all night trying to calm my screaming down, hours after having drank formula (cows milk of course).....for months! Bless the fact that our mum's didn't toss us out with the preverbal bathwater! While I'm not lactose intolerant I'm pretty sure the casein is what kills my colon. I can tolerate full fat cream & a little hard cheese (oh yay!) in strict moderation, all other dairy and the hounds of hell are released.

    You boring???? Are you kidding me??? I've seen your posts lady, and let me tell ya', not only do you provide a GREAT wealth of helpful info, have great sense of humour, but you use Anastasia brow products.......how can that be boring!?! Thrilled you've landed on the thread!

    Mimi - Get some protein in your salads.....otherwise you're guaranteed to starve. Meat, fish, seafood, poultry or eggs and a whack of EVOO based dressing. Purple Heart goes to you for turning down the pizza. Pizza is a tough one! *high 5s*

  • MAP1002
    MAP1002 Member Posts: 61
    edited June 2018

    Egads,

    I always put chicken, (without skin) into my salad.. always. (and I don't use dressing) and a handful of dry roasted, unsalted nuts, (combo of almonds, cashews). I don't always use whole eggs, because I get my fats from other things, (healthy fats, avocado, olive oil, nuts). My peanut butter is always organic, always one ingredient- peanuts.. I count as one of my 3 "healthy" fats a day. Isn't crazy how much sugar is added to EVERYTHING on the planet??

    I try to keep my carbs to one or none a day... The program cycles carbs and fat days.. not easy.. I hate no fat days..... I know I eat healthy things.. my issue is "supplementing" with unhealthy things.. (cookies and potato chips are my downfall....)

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited June 2018

    Just checking in this Monday morning. I was actually really good over the weekend, stuck to my low carb foods, and managed to lose a pound since Thursday. Yippee, right? Except that is the same pound I keep losing over and over again Lose it, regain it. Lose it again. I feel like I'm stuck in the Groundhog day of dieting . The appointment with the new endocrinologist can't come as soon enough.😏

    The hardest thing for me right now is that when I check those calorie counters that calculate how much you should eat in order to lose say, a pound a week, they all say the same thing. In order for me to lose weight, I'm supposed to stay under 1250 calories per day. Even with working out 6 days a week. 1 1/2 hours per day. Doesn't matter. 1250 calories a day. Every diet. Urghhh. Plus, on the keto diet. I'm supposed to stay under 17 grams of carbs per day. I'm always hungry on that few calories, even on low carb. Makes it really hard to stay focused when you're ravenous all the time.

    Oh, well. I'll keep plugging away. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

    Trish

  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited June 2018

    Ok, now that Monday is here, I must confess that other than the popcorn incident at the theater last Wednesday I did well until yesterday. I was SO tired yesterday that I slept like 15 hours and was still exhausted. So I spent the remainder of the day/evening laying in bed watching TV. Well then last evening I went to the store and as I toodled past the deli I got a hankering for a ham sandwich. Yup, I bought the ham AND some sourdough bread and came home . . . and you know the rest! So I get up the this morning and guess what, my scale screamed at me that I had gained 2.5 lbs in one day. Urrrgh! But what else could I expect from my ham indiscretion. But, Oh Joy! today is Monday and I get to start anew. Yeah!

    Ok, in a little while I will be seeing my MO and getting my bloodwork done & Faslodex shots. Oh what a fun way to start to the week, NOT!

    Later Ladies! Have a great day all!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited June 2018

    I would think that you could have more calories as long as they came from protein. I've never been very successful with low calorie diets, but low carb works for me. It's really unfair to be ravenous all the time. It just doesn't seem right.

  • Meg101
    Meg101 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2018

    Hi Ladies!

    Thank you for all the tips and food ideas.

    SpecialK - I will be trying those lettuce-wrap-tacos and the spaghetti squash this week. They sound delicious. My family has agreed to try the Paleo plan with me, but they will change it up a bit to fit their needs. In other words, I'll eat the basics with no sugar, dairy, grains, etc. They will add their items to the recipe after I dish out my portion of the basics.

    JunieB - The link for the recipe site you posted is now permanently embedded on my computer in "Favorites". Those recipes look delicious yet easy. Thank you! I can't wait to try them.

    Egads - I'm ancient so It's hard to look good at my age. I traded body fat for hanging skin. I'm post menopausal with bat wings for upper arms. The hanging skin on my thighs and butt is cringe worthy. Even the skin on my knees is starting to sag. Fortunately a few years ago I had a good facelift so no sagging skin on my face and neck. As long I stay covered with clothes, I look OK. Part of the reason I want to start lifting weights is to help build muscles and bones which may also help the skin to tighten a bit. With the right diet and good muscles and bones, I hope to feel healthy and look OK.

    Monday Confessional - Forgive me for I have cheated. Saturday night I broke the rules and ate ice cream for the first time in a year. I also ate some wild rice and corn. My body revolted on Sunday (GI issues). Lesson learned.

    I'm now heading out to hit the hillsides with a moderate hike. Hiking is a fun way to stay healthy and improve balance issues. The only time I've fallen on a hike was AFTER the hike while I was walking home. I tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and hit the ground hard. I had bruises for weeks. Go figure.

    Hugs to all,

    Meg



  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    meg - that is often my approach as well, and I have to say that my DH has embraced this way of eating which makes it a lot easier. I don't have kids at home anymore so don't need to make adjustments for them except when they show up, lol! I too have paid the price when I eat stuff I shouldn't, and eventually I came to the realization the subsequent response was not worth the treat - it's a process to get there though. I join you on the need to build muscle and bone - 17 surgeries over the last 7 years have taken a toll. I look fine in clothes but I am not fit enough, and thanks to boatload of skin cancer I have stayed out of the sun for almost 30 years so don't look my age from the neck up, but my Vit D has suffered as a result of the lack of sun exposure. Ironically, I live in Florida.

  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    Trish - I ditto Wren, 1250 calories per day (while working out for 1.5 hours daily) isn't enough calories, period. Our bodies are amazing machines that adjust to everything we do to it. When a person is exercising they way you do, the body requires more. If the body doesn't get the extra it needs, and long term low food intake is happening, it's is a major stressor on the body....a mild form of starvation. When your calories get too low (eg: 1250 cals/day working out 1.5 hours/day) your body releases higher levels of cortisol (stress hormone). Higher cortisol levels leads to your body hanging onto the fat it has as natural defense against starvation. High cortisol levels are strongly associated with abdominal fat. No wonder you're ravenous all the time, your body is screaming "if you're going to put me through my paces feed me enough!". I repeat, no wonder you're hungry. Fat is what keeps us full. 17 grams of carbs on an ongoing basis will definitely lead to ketosis, but you should be balancing it out with other keto friendly foods at a healthy caloric intake. Want a challenge? Don't read any further if not. For the next 7 days do not count calories. Cut (and I mean cut completely!) wheat, grain, sugar, legumes (beans) & processed food from your diet. Count only carbs, and eat 50-80 carbs per day. Eat 75-100 grams of healthy fats/oils per day, don't be afraid of the fat if your other macros are in line. Eat .8 grams of protein per pound of body weight. Eat tons veg (unlimited veg if you please). Drink water. If you need the calorie count thing, max out at 1500-2000 per day on work out days, 1400 on non work out days. So far what you're doing hasn't worked. It didn't for me either. I was once at 950 cals per day, miserable and lost nothing. Doing this for the next 7 days isn't going to hurt and worth a shot. After the 3rd day you should notice your hunger decreasing. By day 7 I bet dollars to donuts (sorry about the donuts) you will be back here reporting weight loss. Dare ya!! :)))

    Map - I'd hate no carb days too, and probably why I choose paleo/primal. I find it easier not to have to go without....besides I'd forget which day was which LOL, heck I forget my name sometimes...and my childs!. Do me a favor and send me the chicken skin, I'll eat it! :)))

    Junie - LOL @ ham indiscretion.....'Junie's ham scandal', we should rename Monday to: Indiscretion Monday, and all say it in an evil whispery voice. I bet the sammich' was good though! Yeah, that's the thing about wheat, it's great for adding a load of carbs that adsorb a gallon of water...body sponge. By Wednesday it should be gone if you're good. Hope the bloodwork & shot isn't too rough!

    Meg - You said " My family has agreed to try the Paleo plan with me, but they will change it up a bit to fit their needs. In other words, I'll eat the basics with no sugar, dairy, grains, etc. They will add their items to the recipe after I dish out my portion of the basics." Best darned piece of advice. I did the same, they got with the program eventually. Diet changes don't have to be a chore....let them eat cake!" Loved your cheat....didn't love you had to suffer the results!

  • ShazzaKelly
    ShazzaKelly Member Posts: 909
    edited June 2018

    I’m late to indiscretion Monday as it’s already Tuesday here. We have just had a very wet long weekend here but I factor in a few indiscretions on the weekend and when I hopped on the scales there was no damage done. I am fasting today and tomorrow. I only eat a nutrient dense lchf dinner on my two fasting days a week. I’ve been doing this for a month now and it isn’t too bad. I am following the program in a book called What The Fast. It’s a follow on from a book I already have called surprisingly What The Fat. It’s an interesting read and my family love the recipes which are easy and packed with vegetables.

    Loving reading everyone’s posts and pleased to see I’m not the only one who has little or no control around potato chips

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited June 2018

    Map, I read a study that peanut protein causes BC metastisis and peanut has not crossed my lips since. Try almond butter! https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2014/12/19/peanut-com...

    I can relate to those counting calories who didn't lose weight. 5 plus years ago, I decided to try hard to lose my post-baby weight - my son was 15 - LOL! I counted with my fitness pal for two months and didn't lose a pound. I was starving the entire time. When I dropped my normal breakfast of yogurt, oatmeal and the like and replaced it with coconut milk and nuts, I lost weight - 13 pounds in 2.5 months. So don't waste your time counting calories, ditch those carbs and change WHAT you eat.

    Egads, no handcuffs and leather - LOL - you make me laugh every day, but I did also sin yesterday. I've had a cold and and the ice cream my son bought felt so good on my mucousy, scratchy throat. It was non-dairy but the sugar content made it not paleo. I've been good today though. Nuts and black coffee for breakfast, salad with egg, carrots, kale, tomato for lunch, and I had zoodles with chicken and pesto for dinner.

    Egads, I'd be interested to hear how you started Paleo with the UC. My son has Crohn's and I've tried to get him to try Paleo. He really can't tolerate much veggies and fruit, so he's reluctant to give up his filling pasta and sandwiches.

    SpecialK, interesting that you have the genes for celiac. Some people do have the genes and don't get it, but certainly I wouldn't want to risk it. My nephew has celiac, DH has diverticulitis and son Crohn's. Somehow it seems all related to me. Maybe one day you'll find a relative on the websites. Wouldn't that be exciting. My brother did 23 and me and the most interesting thing is we have Yakut DNA (indigenous people of siberia), which probably came along with Native American ancestry, which we knew about.


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2018

    twohobbies - the DNA stuff has been interesting! I did family trees for DH's fam - his mom's side I can trace back to the 1500's, and they were in Pennsylvania before the American Revolution. I also did my adoptive parents - wish I had been able to do this before they both passed away. I went fairly far back on both sides to about the same time period as DH's mom, which is interesting because they were both naturalized citizens and we had no family in this country while I was growing up. I have 2nd cousin matches on 23andMe and 3rd on AncestryDNA, and I need to contact them and roll the dice with what happens after that. My adoptive brother, who has since passed away - rather suddenly from a rare cancer at 55, researched and found his birth mother - but she did not want contact with him and it caused some issues within her family. Interestingly, his blood brother, her youngest and the only child she kept, lives about 30 minutes from me here in FL - I grew up in CA. He and I have spent some time together and he has enlightened me on the upheaval caused by the revelation that his mom had not just my brother and gave him up, but one other, and possibly two. This has probably kept me from clicking the contact button. My DNA indicates that I am strongly western European - more strongly than the people who live there, so both of my parents had to have not had much dilution of their DNA. Most people from that region - France/Germany/Switzerland/Austria are at the 50% range, I am 84% - with the rest British/Irish and a teensy amount Scandinavian/Italian/Greek.

  • MAP1002
    MAP1002 Member Posts: 61
    edited June 2018

    UG, really?? I don't think we can eat anything anymore! I love almond butter, and cashew butter.. just so much more $$. Of course, I was great yesterday, until I got home and had a plateful of tortilla chips and some cheese! but I did get to the gym, and I had shrimp and brown rice pasta for dinner....


  • Egads007
    Egads007 Member Posts: 1,603
    edited June 2018

    EDUCATIONAL TUESDAY!


    I got it into my head last night that it might be fun & informative to pass on info to help better understand certain aspects of the Paleo way. Information is power, something we all learned in our cancer experiences. All presented in a very simple & easy to digest manner. Personally, I love easy and simple. I once even used those words on a dating profile. To this day I still can't understand why I only got replies from creeps. :)))) (Possibly because of the simple aspect?) Without further delay, on to the serious stuff....


    CARBS….lovely carbs. Usually detectably sweet. Very necessary to a healthy diet. There are two types:


    Simple Carbs – White sugar, brown sugar, corn syrup, rice sugar, high fructose, glucose, anything with –'tose or ose' on the end when you're reading labels. The world eats tons of this per year. It has no nutritional value whatsoever, spikes insulin rates (as diabetics can attest to), leads to weight gain, cancer and a plethora of other health issues. Avoid simple sugars like the plague. I cut all simple sugars/carbs out of my diet years ago. My tummy and waistline thanked me. My brain however still won't talk to me, hence being 'easy & simple'. *grin*


    Complex Carbs – These are the carbs we find mainly in fruit, veg, and legumes. Very simply (almost cartoon simple) complex carbs contain nutrients and are packed with fiber. Fiber runs through your body sucking up fat from your bloodstream. This is why a diet high in fiber helps fight heart disease. Grandma was spot on…..eat your brussels sprouts or you're not getting dessert! Too bad grandma also packed a whopping amount of sugar in the dessert! If you're choosing a carb, go for the complex….don't be simple, which is only good if you want to attract creeps.


    Net Carbs – Nifty little piece of info – subtract your grams of fiber from your carb intake per day. Every gram of fiber 'deletes' a gram of carbs, hence it being called 'net carbs'. This allows for proper intake levels, especially in high fiber diets.


    Weight Loss & Better Health – Carb Chart. Below is an easy peasy way to determine healthy carb intakes, and the pitfalls if you don't. It shows weight loss, weight maintain and weight gain carb levels. Please note if you're working out carbs can be higher the 'day of', as can food intake.

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    Back later to reply to y'all's more fun posts. Must have had too many carbs, my grammar is shot to hell. Meh, we'll live.

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