Any one else thinking about having a mastectomy for DCIS?

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  • ReadyAbout
    ReadyAbout Member Posts: 211
    edited April 2018

    In yet another plot twist, my DCIS was reclassified as invasive last week. The tumor was sent out for Oncotype and the pathologists at the Oncotype lab noticed it, then the pathologists here in town looked at it again and agreed. Thank goodness the folks at the lab noticed it! This news was a bit deflating as I now have to go back to MO to talk Tamoxifen, get HER2 test, new genotype test, etc. I thought I'd dodged the bottle of Tamo! I have papillary carcinoma, which is a rare breast cancer and difficult to read in pathology. (In pathology slides, most cancers act like a slice of cheese in water; papillary acts like cottage cheese and falls apart.) On top of that, the RO did some research and my vascular issue could cause complications years later if I get radiation, so she wasn't comfortable doing it. I am having a mastectomy with prepectoral reconstruction in about 3 weeks. I'm a teacher so I'm trying to get the kids close to the finish line before I take sick leave. (They may have to drag me along with them these last weeks, LOL.) I meet with PS next week to go over details. I just have to remind myself that I am on the right side of the grass and things could be worse.

  • MBPooch
    MBPooch Member Posts: 229
    edited April 2018

    CarlaJG - Not sure where you live but I'm in the Chicago area and had great success with direct to implant. When I was diagnosed with DCIS back in October I knew immediately I would have a BMX. After meeting with the plastic surgeon he believed I was a good candidate for DTI but there was a chance that when they were in the operating room and the conditions weren't right I'd have to go the expander route. Thankfully everything went perfectly and I woke up with breasts similar to what I had. I was small chested but had implants (C cup) so not sure if that aided in the ability to have DTI or not. My recovery was surprisingly smooth and I'm almost 5 months out and have no pain, no issues, feel great and am doing everything I did even work out wise as I did pre-diagnosis. Definitely explore all of your options, none of these decisions are easy.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited April 2018

    I hope you ditched your BS -- what a jerk! He should be answering your questions with facts, not bullying you. There are endless stories about how patients must advocate for ourselves. He sounds like he doesn't like his authority questioned, which is a problem because you are the authority of your own body. I would not want him to perform surgery on me. Do you have other options?

    I had BMX and no radiation or AIs. Everything was fine, but reconstruction is a biiiiig hassle. If you think you can live without it, you will have a much quicker recovery, lower risk of complications, and an easier time overall. I had a complication with my SGAP reconstruction. I am happy with my results now, but it was a long road.

    Best wishes in your difficult choices -- may you find the path that brings you the most peace.

  • LisaK12
    LisaK12 Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2018

    For what it's worth, after two lumpectomies for DCIS in my left breast, with unclear margins, my BS recommended a unilateral mastectomy and my second opinion recommended a third lumpectomy. I opted for a double mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy (with immediate, direct-to-implant reconstruction) a week ago today and just received the summary of my pathology report. The key takeaways are (1) sentinel node was clear; (2) DCIS was present on 9 out of 45 slides (one-fifth) of the tissue samples from my left breast, which I doubt they could have removed successfully with a third lumpectomy; and (3) while DCIS was not found in my right breast, lobular carcinoma in situ and atypical ductal hyperplasia -- areas of abnormal cell growth that increase a person's likelihood of developing invasive breast cancer later in life -- were present in my right breast as well as my left. Multiple intraductal papillomas were present in both breasts as well, which are also markers for increased risk of breast cancer. So I am feeling very good about my decision to have a bilateral mastectomy. While it wasn't an easy decision, it was the right one for me.

    Good luck with whatever you decide.


  • eo2378
    eo2378 Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2018

    At 39, I was diagnosed with grade 3 DCIS, and after an MRI, an additional diagnosis of grade 1 DCIS. I have fairly large breasts, however, the two areas are approximately 5 inches apart. My surgeon said mx was the only option. Prior to diagnosing the second area of DCIS, I'd been going back and forth between mx and lx with rads. I lost my left arm at age 13 to osteosarcoma. I was conflicted. I wanted to avoid radiation and chemo at all costs, but I didn't want to willingly decide to remove my breast either. When my BS called to tell me that mx was now the only option, I felt a bit of relief. Devine intervention. The decision was no longer mine to make, it was now necessary. It's a very difficult decision. My personal mindset is, if losing a limb or a breast is what it takes to give me a cancer free life, than that's what I will do.


  • anxioussue
    anxioussue Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2018

    Hi, dear ladies. Last September I was diagnosed with extensive DCIS(over 4.5 cm) low to intermediate papillary and cribriform. 2 opinions were pro lumpectomy, one opinion was pro-mastectomy. I chose the latter one and I did unilateral mastectomy last December. I am overweight, and may be that is why up to this day my doctor aspirates seroma fluid once a week. Last week I got fever and was admitted to the hospital. They did not find the abscess, but the cellulitis could not be excluded. But I didn't know that after UNILATERAL mastectomy I would go completely crazy out of fear for my contralateral breast. I got scared of taking tamoxifen, because my uterus had precancerous cells years ago. And my doctor never explained me my options( that if I did bilateral mastectomy, I would avoid taking tamoxifen). Now I am thinking about removing my other breast and my mother is going nuts because she thinks I am overdoing it. Did anyone have bilateral mastectomy, and how do they feel about it? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, me

  • eo2378
    eo2378 Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2018

    Hello anxioussue, I am scheduled for surgery on the 31st of this month. I'm having a MX on the right side. I told my BS that I have zero interest in going through this again ever in the future, and if removing the healthy left breast could help avoid that, than let's get it done now. I have two separate areas of DCIS in my right breast. One area (the larger of the two areas) is grade 3 and ER- / PR-. The smaller area is grade 1 and ER+/PR+. My BS advised removing my healthy breast would serve very little advantage, as my chances of DCIS in the left were under 1%. I'm opting for the unilateral MX and hoping that will solve any future problems. I've not personally been prescribed the Tamoxifen, yet. However, I've made up my mind that if it's a suggested treatment, I will pass on the suggestion. In my case, I feel the long term risk outweighs the short term benefits. I definitely suggest you discuss your options with your BS. Determine if you have any increased risk in the healthy breast with or without the use of tamoxifen. No one should have to go through a MX of a healthy breast, if it doesn't pose any potential future risk.

    I understand your fear and concern, and hope you find the best solution for your situation. Ask questions and demand answers that provide you the comfort of mind you deserve. Best of luck to you!!



  • Carol_U
    Carol_U Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2018

    Hi Drala

    Thank you for your post. It was like reading an account of what I have been through with my B.S. My B.S. also lost it with me several times and also suggested several times that I needed a Counsellor and even made me several appointments. No! I needed a decent human being B.S. who would share their knowledge without imparting huge doses of fear, listen and not to judge me and make me the problem! So in the end I ended up firing that team of doctors because of his lack of empathy and unwillingness to answer my questions respectfully and truthfully.

    I then went to a female B.S. and what a difference! HUGE doses of empathy and willingness to sit and answer as many questions as I had for her.

    I think it is important that we trust our judgement and not take on their anger and frustration (We have enough of our own at this time). And it is our right to shop around until we feel comfortable (or as comfortable as we can be).

  • AnnieBear
    AnnieBear Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2018

    I wish I would have.

  • therapygirl18
    therapygirl18 Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2018

    Hi Drala,

    I'm curious to know what you've decided to do.  I agree with the ladies here that it is a difficult decision to know what course to take. You just have to be at peace with whatever decision you make. Everyone's situation is a bit different. Myself, I had two LX  this year then decided to do a MX last Monday because the two prior surgeries did not get all the cancer out. Huge disappointment. Just wanted to move on.  Did direct to implant.  So far so good.  I see my plastic surgeon next Monday for post-op appointment.. I have not made a decision about the meds.  Would rather not deal with side effects.

    Having a good team of doctors is important. Totally agree with you Carol U!!! I have put up with a team of doctors and nurses who lacked empathy and compassion. (One positive note: At least the surgeons appeared to do a competent job with the surgeries.) You do not need that layer of stress on top of any decisions you have to make about what surgery route to go.

  • hapi2bee
    hapi2bee Member Posts: 19
    edited May 2018

    I just want to hug all of you wonderful women. At 73 I've lived a great life but when DX with BC after having ovarian cancer 23 years ago I'm just not ready to throw in the towel. Had a BMX with no recon March 26. Ready to hang up the flags for Memorial Day - the very best to all of you.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2018

    Drala, I hope everything turned out well for you. It looks like you haven't been on these boards in about 6 weeks. I hope that means you are feeling good and moving on.

  • Justkeepmoving
    Justkeepmoving Member Posts: 106
    edited May 2018

    Hello Ladies

    I joined this board today.

    Last week I found out I have DCIS in my left breast. I don't know the size but the lump is quite large. Right now I'm gathering information --- I had an MRI which showed "spots" in a different area and I'm scheduled to have a biopsy on Friday to see what's going on there. I am in the process of genetic testing. I'm 49 years old

    I'm finding the information about statistics and reoccurrence and invasive breast cancer quite confusing. i hope to have more clarity in the next few weeks as I find out more about my specific situation.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that a double mastectomy is overkill yet that is what feels more comfortable? My brain keeps going to that as the solution but I pull myself back in because I tend to be an all or none thinker and I want to be logical and look at all of the information.

    I'm babbling here but I wanted to reply to the origional poster because I feel like I'm smack in the middle of the same situation. And I also feel like I can't really say I have breast cancer because it's just ductal carcinoma in situ. I don't know how to feel. I feel numb and grateful that it isn't worse.

  • Nursepatient35
    Nursepatient35 Member Posts: 166
    edited May 2018

    Justkeepmoving: I felt the same way when I was dx with DCIS. I didn't feel like I was in the same boat as the people going through invasive cancer, like I couldn't be as upset or deserve as much sympathy as those who have to go through all the chemo, treatments, etc. It took some time to realize that I did have breast cancer but I was fortunate enough to have the the "best kind to have" as some say. As I was going to my first appt with the general surgeon, the idea of a bilateral mastectomy crossed my mind but I thought it was overkill. After the surgeon explained all the treatment options my gut just told me I wanted a BMX. The surgeon too told me if I was her daughter, that's what she would suggest. So, I guess my only advice is to do whatever will give you the most peace of mind. No matter what after this is all over for you, you'll still worry about it ever coming back. But, which option will make you worry the least. I had my bmx on Valentine's day and my exchange surgery a month ago. I think about cancer about 1-2 times a week now which is much better than every minute like when you get diagnosed. I wish you peace in making your decision. You're in the hardest spot now with just getting diagnosed, but you'll look back a few months from now and will be a better and stronger person than you are right now.

  • TaraLeeOm
    TaraLeeOm Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2018

    I chose single mastectomy after being diagnosed with DCIS. It was a small amount, but it involved the nipple, so I was going to lose that anyway. I figured with my nipple going, along with about 30% of my breast if I went the lumpectomy route, I may as well go the whole 9 yards and avoid radiation and tamoxifen.

    Well I had the single mastectomy last week, and i thank the stars that everything came back negative. All I need now is breast reconstruction.

    Recovery has been a breeze for me, and I am thankful for that as well. For those with upcoming mastectomies, it is not nearly as terrible as I feared.

    Hopefully my other breast will remain cancer-free.

  • Marena
    Marena Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2018

    JustKeepMoving: It was hard for me to wrap my brain around the reality that "having the best kind of cancer" (dcis) includes tx options for someone with stage 4 cancer! The thought of BMX, although seemingly drastic, is indeed an option, and the one I chose (surgery was on 5/25). I had it in 2 areas of my right breast, grade 3, & being someone with fear of & resistance to medical interventions, a BMX (although physically altering) provided me with the least toxic of all the options, and to me, less chance of getting another breast cancer. It is a very personal decision to you as an individual. For me, now that I've learned from my post-op pathology that there was no invasion found in my lymph nodes, I am relieved that I can move forward in my life without worry of reoccurrence...

    It was not easy. Took some soul searching for sure. Go inside yourself and determine the decision that makes most sense to who YOU are. This forum is here for you.

  • Justkeepmoving
    Justkeepmoving Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2018

    Thank you for understanding.

    I decided not to have the other biopsy done (for another area found on the MRI) because I'm leaning towards getting a mastectomy and most likely a double mastectomy - a biopsy wouldn't be helpful. Even if it was benign (which my radiologist says she would be surprised if it was benign) my dr would take out that area as well leaving me with not much tissue and I'd be worried they didn't get all of it. It also looks like I'm not keeping my nipple so what am I even doing here considering a lumpectomy?

    I don't like change and have been known to stay in bad situations just because I was afraid of the unknown (just like how I didn't go to the dr right away with my breast pain and lump - I talked myself into thinking it was nothing). I'm struggling with this change. The diagnosis didn't bother me because I felt I was lucky to only have DCIS. Now I'm learning about how I'm at a higher risk of developing any other type of cancer (not just new DCIS).

    It is all lining up nicely with thekids and childcare. I have great health insurance. Why do I feel like crap and want to just pretend this isn't happening?

  • Marena
    Marena Member Posts: 24
    edited June 2018

    Justkeepmoving, I totally get where you are at...When my PC told me I had dcis in my right breast & would most likely need surgery & a hormone blocker drug, but "it wasn't really cancer, -Yet! I looked into it all, head spinning with information that I couldn't swallow -how can this be? All of these options seem far too extreme to treat something that's not really cancer...And the stubborn rebel in me wanted to do nothing! Didn't want to be probed any further, go through any toxic tx protocols, or join the warrior club! Being a "breast cancer patient" was not a desired identity for me.

    After some sobering talks with trusted others & approaching my situation more pragmatically, with the desire to live my best life as long as I can, being my goal, I came to the decision to have a bmx w no reconstruction (at least for now). After "trying on" the different options in relation to who I am & want to be, it was the right choice for me.

    Turned out that a lumpectomy w radiation wouldn't really have been an option for me as they found more dcis in the same breast & would most likely not get clean margins due to the size and location. I realized I was relieved that radiation was off the table & mastectomy best option. I decided to get a double due to my wanting to free myself from future anxiety, potential Tamoxafin & I had a need for physical symmetry -ultimately chose no reconstruction to avoid more involved & further surgeries, and now plan to stay flat for awhile.

    In the end it was more than the right choice for me.I just got my post-op pathology report back. Nodes clear! My right breast had the dcis in 8 of 11 sections examined, & there were signs of atypical lobular hyperplasia in my other breast I had removed prophylactically (previously not picked up on mammogram or breast MRI). My BS said that is a precursor to potential invasive breast cancer! I made the right decision & now will focus on grief, healing and my recovery moving forward.

    I hope this isn't too much information! I simply want to say, I feel you & the space you're in...I hope you find the right approach for you ❤️

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited June 2018

    justkeepmoving- go with the decision that leaves you with a feeling of peace. Have you looked into decided on whether to do recon? If you are planning to do recon, are you considering natural tissue recon (recon can be done at time of mx), direct to implant (recon done at time of mx)or TEs with implant exchange down the road?

  • Justkeepmoving
    Justkeepmoving Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2018

    thank you --

    I met with my breast surgeon today. There are 3 areas that would have to be removed plus the nipple - this would mean extensive reconstruction (I'm barely a B cup).

    So a single mastectomy is certain and a double mastectomy is probably what I'll have... I want symmetry and peace of mind. I'm almost positive I will get the DIEP procedure.

    The hurdle will just be accepting that I can't ignore this and do nothing. I hope I'm asking the right questions and thinking in a logical manner. This is a small bump in the road and I want to come out the other side stronger. More dr appointments coming up this coming week including results from my genetic testing.

    I worry that I'm being pig headed and just running to bilateral mastectomy without looking at all of the facts and information.


  • Texasmom123
    Texasmom123 Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2018

    I opted for BMX based on the fact that my DCIS was multi-focal, intermediate grade w/necrosis, my age (40), and all 4 doctors agreeing it was best. My oncologist and breast surgeon both said I have a high chance of recurrence and this was best way to reduce risk.

  • MamaRod
    MamaRod Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2018

    Hi. I am still at the very beginning stages. I have a DCIS dx, but waiting on an appt with a geneticist, and then an MRI. So far, DCIS is very small (I don't remember all the scores, etc on it). But here is what scares me the most......I don't really want the radiation, nor the tamoxifen. I would rather just have the UMX and be done with it. I know there's a chance of reoccurrence, but it's so much lower with the MX. I really have no qualms about, nor do I want reconstruction. I think I must be crazy because I can't seem to find anyone who shares this thought process with me. When I had gall stones, they took my gall bladder out. I feel the same way about this. I'm glad I had them, I fed my babies with them, now one of them is diseased, so let's get rid of it. I don't want to put stuff in my body, I wanna take stuff out! I don't care what my genes say, don't really care how big or small, etc. It could be dangerous? Then it's gotta go.

    Help!! Am I crazy for thinking this way?

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited July 2018

    Mamarod- you are not crazy for thinking this way!! If you are, then I am too-LOL! Just wanted to throw something else out there as it relates to recon...you can have natural tissue recon that looks and feels like the real deal that can match your other breast and you also get a tummy tuck or butt lift at the same time, no implants required. The tissue is not breast tissue so your chance of recurrence/survival is the exact same as mx with no recon. Here’s a link to before & after photos from one of the best centers in the world for these types of surgery in case you’re interested. Feel free to ask any questions!

    https://www.breastcenter.com/result-photos/diep-photos/


  • MBPooch
    MBPooch Member Posts: 229
    edited July 2018

    MamaRod - Not crazy at all! I had a DCIS with Pagets diagnosis last October and for me there was never a decision. I knew immediately I wanted a BMX, I didn't want to have to second guess and worry about every little thing. I was naturally flat chested and had gotten implants about 7 years ago so for me there was never any attachment to my breasts anyway. I had surgery with direct to implant the last week of November and haven't had any issues at all. My recovery was pretty seamless, I love to do yoga and I think the stretching was great for regaining mobility. I hosted Christmas Eve, went up North for a long weekend with friends and family for New Years Eve and haven't second guessed my decision for a second. Best of luck to you in whatever you decide!

  • Pnklotus
    Pnklotus Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2018

    I was diagnosed with DCIS in 2016 at age 30, nuclear grade 3, lumpectomy done with radiation. Negative hormone receptors & Negative BRCA history. Going for my check ups once a year , Mammo and MRi lit up this year. Core biopsy negative. Went for surgically tissue removal and DCIS was was found again, no clear margins so going for second lumpectomy. New surgeon says these are left overs. Hopefully she will get clear margins, seem to be a very small amount close to previous lump location. Scar tissue was negative but also received a boost there. If this won't do the trick Iwould go for uni MX with implant. How was your pain post op ?

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