what to expect at/after stereotactic biopsy?

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lynnapin
lynnapin Member Posts: 15
what does it feel like? how long does pain last? did you have to take painkillers? do I need someone to go with me/take me home? If I have borderline low platelets, could I have bad bleeding? what can I do to minimize chances of a hematoma?
Please share experiences and give me advice- I have two young kids and am a single mom so need to line up help if I will need it.
Thanks so much- you guys are wonderful!

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  • SecretAgentL
    SecretAgentL Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2007
    Hi, Lynnapin!

    First of all, WELCOME! You've come to the right place. This is a wonderful site, full of the most incredible, courageous, and loving women and men.

    I posted a reply regarding a stereotactic biopsy on another board last week, so I'll just copy it here for you. It's kind of long...so get comfy.

    I just had a stereotactic biopsy last on Feb. 7. I'm 29, and I had a precancerous tumor removed from my left breast in November (via excisional biopsy). After that, I became a High Risk patient and was ordered to get a mammogram once I healed. After my first mammogram a week ago, they found linear calcifications that concerned them and, subsequently, ordered me to have a stereotactic biopsy.

    Now, I'm a MAJOR sissy, but I survived this biopsy okay, so you will, too! The procedure is as follows:

    You lie face down on a table, in which there is an opening for your breast to hang through. Underneath the table is an x-ray/mammogram-type machine. Your breast is compressed (much like during a mammogram) and 3-D images of your breast tissue are taken in order for the radiologist and assistants to pinpoint the exact location of the questionable area to be biopsied. You cannot move AT ALL during the procedure, because any shift in your body whatsoever throws off the calculations of the location of the questionable area.

    Once the location is found (down the millimeter, I've heard), the radiologist numbs your breast. This is not awful, but it does burn/pinch a bit. But it's over within seconds, so HANG IN THERE (and DO NOT MOVE).

    After your breast becomes numb, the radiologist makes a tiny incision in your breast. In this incision, a needle is placed, which will be the needle that takes the biopsied sample(s). The needle is hollow, and there is a VAD (vacuum-assisted-device) that sucks out the biopsy samples through the needle so that the needle only has to go in and out of your breast once. (Thank God!)

    You may be on the table for anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours or more. It depends on how many samples they take, how difficult it is to find the site, and how still you maintain your body.

    It is CRUCIAL that you try to position yourself in as comfortable a position as possible before they begin, because it will be the position you will have to be in for the entire procedure. I found this the worst part of the whole thing. I got a horrible crick in my neck and in my arm.

    Afterwards, they "flip" you over onto your back and apply pressure to the biopsy site, to stop the bleeding. They put on steri-strips over the incision, and then gauze/bandages over that--and tape you all up.

    You will be tender...expect that. And, I highly recommend asking for a Rx for pain pills. You will be swollen, bruised, and bloody. I like to say my boob became my "Bag Lady Boob."

    I had trouble with excess bleeding (I bled every day, on and off, for 5 days.). Keep in touch with your radiologist and nurses if you experience this. Not all women have this problem. I'm very thin, borderline anemic, and have low blood pressure.

    Also, it is a wonderful idea to bring someone (or more than one person) with you to the procedure. And see if someone can be with you for at least a few hours at home after the biopsy. And don't be embarrassed to take a stuffed animal with you.

    Let me know how it goes! And feel free to PM me if you have other questions or concerns. I'll be up until about 10:30 p.m. tonight.

    BIG HUGS, be brave, and I'll be saying prayers for you.

    Love,
    Laura
    p.s. May I ask why you're scheduled for a stereotactic biopsy? Just wondering...
  • Liz81
    Liz81 Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2007
    I had a core biopsy on 2/1. The calcifications in question were in the middle of the breast against the chest wall. So the biopsy was taken from deep within the breast. Putting ice on your breast afterwards is crucial, along with wearing a tight support bra. Your breast will be swollen and tender. The ice helps with the swelling. I used the ice for two days instead of just one. You have to wear your support bra 24 hours a day. It took about two weeks for the swelling to go down. I still have bruising. I also have low platelets. I had a small amount of bleeding on the biopsy day, which they say is normal. You just apply pressure.

    You will find that you cannot pick up laundry baskets, etc because this will cause you pain. It even hurt to raise that arm to reach something high. You will have to take it easy and baby yourself.

    My recovery would have gone quicker if after the 2nd week I had not switched to a less supportive bra and my dog had not kicked me in the boob trying to get out of my grasp. The kick set me back with intermittent pain and increased tenderness. Now my nipple is really tender when it had never hurt before. I still wear my support bra 24 hours a day until I can tell that my breast is totally healed.

    So make sure you have a tight, supporting bra and those refreezeable flat ice packs. I only needed tylenol. You should not use NSAIDs or aspirin as they thin your blood making it harder to clot on the biopsy site.

    The recovery really isn't that bad, it is the waiting for the results that get to you. I hope all goes well and that your results are B9.

  • lynnapin
    lynnapin Member Posts: 15
    edited February 2007
    Oh my gosh- Laura- you are just WONDERFUL!!! Your post made me cry! You are so thoughtful and supportive and thorough and sweet! Thank you so much!
    I had a baseline mammogram on Friday and they saw a small area of calcifications in the right breast. Nothing palapable, nothing showed on ultrasound. I'm 36 with two young kids and no history of BC or any cancer in my family. The radiologist said he thinks it's a fibroadenoma but has to do biopsy to be sure since they have no prior films on me and it's a cluster of calcifications. Needless to say I am very scared, mostly abt my kids since I'm a single mom and one of my kids has special needs.
    I do have a few more questions:
    -should I take painkillers or tranquillizers before to help minimize the risk of moving around?
    -what did you do abt the excess bleeding?
    -were you able to work and/or exercise in the days following the biopsy?
    Thanks again- it is clear that you are a truly good person and I send you huge hugs through cyberspace.
    Lynnapin
  • lynnapin
    lynnapin Member Posts: 15
    edited February 2007

    thank you so much- your support means a great deal to me! and thanks for all the advice too!

  • SecretAgentL
    SecretAgentL Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2007
    Lynnapin!

    Aw, thank you! I'm glad you found my post helpful. I'm sorry it was so long though (a problem of mine...eek!).

    Liz made some excellent points about the support bra (no underwire). I completely forgot about that! (Thanks, Liz!!) The day of the biopsy, dress comfortably. Sweat/yoga pants, a button-down or zip up top and sports bra underneath. This is crucial. You do not want to wear a shirt that will require you to put it on over your head. And the sports bra/support bra is an excellent idea (you'll have to put this over your head, unless you have a hook-front closure one, so it helps if someone is with you the day of the procedure....no shame in having a girlfriend or sister or your mom with you helping you get dressed! My best friend had to put my underwear on me after my first biopsy (which was an excisional, so lots of anethesia was involved...)).

    Liz also made a good point about certain drugs you should avoid before the biopsy. Talk to your doctor about this. Some women get a couple of prescription anti-anxiety pills prescribed to them for before the procedure. You can take Tylenol, but NO ibuprofen or aspirin type drugs at all.

    I ended up needing 3 days off from work--one for the biopsy and two full days for recovery. I think my situation was a bit different since I had excess bleeding. Most women can go back the next day, so I hear. But avoid lifting anything over 10 pounds (like a gallon of milk or a ream of paper).

    In terms of the excess bleeding, I just kept in close contact with the hospital and my radiologist. I had to go back to the hospital the next day because of the bleeding, but after that I just had to keep it bandaged, check it periodically for bleeding, and then put pressure on it if it did start to bleed again. Also, I tried to remain relaxed and non-busy for those times. No lifting anything, no using my left arm or side (my left breast had the biopsy), etc. And I had someone with me fairly often, just in case.

    I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. Those pesky calcifications... I'm like you in that I have no history of bc in my family. I've heard that most women who have or develop bc had no family history of it--that always worries me, as I feel like I'm not thinking so much about "if" bc will develop as I am thinking about "when."

    I'll say prayers for you, and for your kids. I admire mothers so much (I don't believe God has called me to motherhood or marriage in this life, but you never know!). And the fact that we're so young doesn't make it easier.

    BUT!! The good news is that 80% of biopsies come back benign, so I'm praying for you to be part of the 80% club. When is it scheduled for?

    Please keep me posted. Much love to you...

    Laura
  • sloth
    sloth Member Posts: 67
    edited February 2007
    Hello Lynnapin :O)
    I had a stereotatic procedure about a year and half two years ago, I was very uneasy about it and afraid really.

    It was pretty much right on as Laura described and they gave me a disc like ice pack to put in my bra to leave with and it was a real gift for many days reuse after.

    I know everyones procedure can differ but for me mine wasnt near chest wall so I had a very good experience w/ it. They generally put tiny markers in at end of procedure to mark where the calcifications were incase they need to return, I chose not to let them put them in since I react so bad to things, but that was me and a gamble on my part, fortunatly they didnt need to return back then.

    Really no pain except the needle stick which was nothing too.

    The healing was no worse then burning and tenderness for me but I did feel tender longer then expected many weeks if I lifted stuff (not very heavy stuff) or vacuumed etc.

    The bra wearing all the time pretty much for a few weeks was ness' for me. It healed fine tho, tiny light scar. I didnt require a return visit.

    As for bleeding Ive not proof on paper but do have a history of bleeding oddly, so that did concern me, but I was fine. I assume your doc knows this? Perhaps pre blood work in order or bleeding time test?
    And no meds that thin your blood ?

    I know one post here was about her hematoma due to her over doing things after surgery had passed a week or two.


    Id not hesitate to have another stereotatic at all.

    I hope your precedure goes very well and is all b9 ! :O)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Lynnapin----my stereotactic core biopsy wasn't painful, I would describe it more like a lot of pressure. The hardest part was laying so still in one position for so long--my neck was actually sore, not my breast! I had no swelling, bruising, or bleeding, no steri strips--just a bandaid, an ice pack and I was good to go. I even drove myself 3 hours to a funeral the next day (with the ice pack tucked inside my bra). So you can see, everyone reacts differently. But if you have a history of bleeding troubles, it might be good for someone to go with you and drive you home. No aspirin or ibuprophen before or after; extra strength tylenol is OK. The ice pack is the best way to minimize any swelling or bruising. Good Luck to you. Praying for benign results for you.

  • chism2be
    chism2be Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2007

    I just had a stereotactic biopsy to remove several microcalcifications from my right breast last Friday. My procedure went much as described above, except they had me lay on my side instead of my stomach. It was a lot more entailed then what I expected. They ended up taking eight samples and it took about an hour. I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old, so it has been difficult not being to pick them up. I should get results back this week, so I'm praying everything is benign. I'm really glad I found this web site to get some support!

  • Peaches70
    Peaches70 Member Posts: 210
    edited February 2007
    My experience with stereotactic biopsy was very mild. The worst part was having to lie completely still for so long. I reiterate the part about finding a comfortable position! My right arm went to sleep because it had to hang through the opening in the table, but other than that and a stiff neck, it was pretty much a breeze.
    Afterward, I drove myself home. I went back to work the next day with no problem.
    Everybody is different; the woman who was scheduled before me had all kinds of problems - excessive bleeding, allergy to latex, etc.
    I wouldn't be too afraid of this procedure, though. It was much easier than the first wire-localization biopsy I had. THAT I hated! Then I had another one which was much better. A lot depends on the skill of the doctor and the location of the biopsy site.
  • CCMOM
    CCMOM Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2007
    Where was your area located? They tried putting my arm thru but still could not reach the area.
    Thanks!
  • Liz81
    Liz81 Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2007

    I had to put my left arm through the whole also. It took them an hour of trying to get good pictures until they decided that they needed my arm to go through the whole too. Once this was done I was out in a total of 2 hours. My calcifications were straight down from the nipple up against the chest wall. So they had to stick the needle in from the side of my breast up against the chest wall. It was taking them so long I was worried that they would never be able to line up the needle. I did not let on that I was worried, I just kept telling them to take their time. I wanted them to do a good job and not rush. The procedure would have been faster if my calcifications were near the surface.

  • CCMOM
    CCMOM Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2007
    Liz 81-
    Mine is to the right a bit more same at chest wall. They initially were able to get it in place after a half hour (I am small Breasted} they marked it and let me out the surgeon was running behind. I sat in the waiting room 45 minutes. They took me back in when he arrived tried to get it how they had marked no luck. I was swollen for two days. The radiologist and surgeon said follow up in three months. I have been going out of my mind. I have one friend who just finished radiation, another just diagnosed Friday and two friends who are survivors. I called and spoke with the surgeons nurse about my worries and she made an appt. for him to see me Friday. Have you received your results?
    CC MOM
  • Peaches70
    Peaches70 Member Posts: 210
    edited February 2007

    My area was very close to the chest wall on my right side, upper outer quadrant. And she was not totally satisfied with what they got - especially when they did find the LCIS. That's why I had to have the excisional biop.

  • CCMOM
    CCMOM Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2007

    What is LCIS? What is excisional biop. I guess the surgeon will tell me more Friday. What if he wants to try the stereo again? Should I ask for a different procedure?

  • Liz81
    Liz81 Member Posts: 62
    edited February 2007

    Yes CC Mom, I got my results. The calcifications were negative. I have to go back in another 6 months for a mammogram. I just hope the other calcifications in my breast don't grow or change.

  • CCMOM
    CCMOM Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2007
  • lintay1162
    lintay1162 Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2013

    I had my biopsy on 8/19 at which time I bled in, so my entire breast turned purple red. Today is 9/5 and I am still bruised and swollen. The biopsy was done on the bottom of my breast and about a inch and a half upwards there is a lesion type thing going on and a lump inside. Does anyone have any idea if this is normal. I spoke with a tech on saturday because I was bleeding out and she said to apply alot of pressure to stop bleeding but nobody has said anything about the lump.

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    Hi lintay1162 sorry you are still having problems after your biopsy. I had a needle biopsy in August 2013 there was a little pain and slight bruising a few days afterwards but no bleeding out. What u are having should be addressed especially if there is still bruising with a new lump. I would call my referring doctor or the pathologist that performed your biopsy to take a look and see what's going on. Please let us know how everything goes. ((Hugs))

  • lintay1162
    lintay1162 Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2013

    Thank you so much, that is exactly what I thought but sometimes you just dont want to be a nudge.

  • ndgrrl
    ndgrrl Member Posts: 741
    edited September 2013

    Hi I had a sterotactic Biopsy in July.  I never experienced what you have. I also think you should contact the doctor. I always think its better to be safe than sorry. I contacted my GP after a few days with a fever, glad I did as I had an infection.

    Good luck

  • Scaredella
    Scaredella Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2013

    It is not too bad. The most uncomfortable part for me was them getting my left breast in mamagram machine while laying on my side. Once they locate area they num you pretty good. Not much pain there.



    The incision is tiny very tiny. Not much bleeding. A little but not much. Tylenol will take care of any discomfort once you are home.



    Relax if you can really not bad.



    The waiting on results is the worst.

    Mother Mary will watch over you.
  • aviva5675
    aviva5675 Member Posts: 1,353
    edited September 2013

    Had mine in July, 2 spots on the right side. Both areas developed hematomas- which is basically bruising/blood pooling inside. Thats what causees he bruising/swelling/ big lumpy feeling. So that might be what happened with you. Its fairly common, I think, but annoying and painful. Took about a month for it to mostly clear up. Then I had surgery and reconstruction so they were gone.  If it feels like the lump is more than that, call your Dr.... or really, you should call or go see them because your peace of mind is paramount.

  • KRAZYKATLADY
    KRAZYKATLADY Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2017

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    imageI just had a stereostatic biopsy on my left breast this morning. I would recommend taking off your shoes while on the table, wear comfortable pants and wear a good support bra. I wish I would have rubbed some Ben Gay on my neck beforehand as you do lie on your stomach with your head turned to the side. I was so tense that my beck did hurt.

    I have severe anxiety and worked myself up with worrisome thoughts while waiting for the procedure to begin. I even began to tear up.

    The doctor walks and talks you through everything. Nothing hurt. There was a slight startle when the numbing medicine was injected but really that was all. I was very surprised that I did not feel pain during the procedure.

    I got an ice bag from the hospital and was told to go home and relax and take 2Tylenol for pain if needed.

  • 999gloria999
    999gloria999 Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2017

    perfectly described by Laura and then reinforced by a few more fantastic ladies. I had mine Feb 7 2017. I was really nervous but it went very well. The worst part is having to lie still. I

  • MackandRooMomma
    MackandRooMomma Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2017

    I had a stereotactic biopsy this morning, and I have a very high pain tolerance, but I didn't particularly enjoy this experience (not that I enjoyed any of them, but...).

    This was my 4th biopsy this month, but my first stereotactic. I can give you some current, live as "it's happening to me" experience advice as a mom of 2 ridiculously energetic kids: accept help. You will be sore. You will be emotionally impacted as well, which is more exhausting to me than anything else, really.

    You are not to lift anything heavier than a gallon of milk. Stick to this, firmly. REST! You will be sore, you might have some bleeding from the site or nipple. Let your dr know about anything that seems excessive. I currently do not have any bleeding (at hour 10), but I haven't moved much in 6 hours, so maybe that's a factor :)

    Utilize the ice packs. They really do make a big difference. Take the Tylenol, it might help. It doesn't do much for me due to my super human ginger resistance to anything less than Demerol, but you might want to do it.

    Do not feel the need to push. It's best if you let go of your responsibilities, which as a mommy, I know it's difficult, but you need to care for YOU right now. It's ok to do that, I'm learning.

    Hydrate and eat prior!! I didn't do either and was wicked dizzy after the procedure. It's no bueno. I did score some lovely apple juice after the procedure, though, so not a totally bad deal.

    I'm new here, and to all of this, and I, for self-preservation purposes, say most things with some sprinkled humor, even if it doesn't seem like the time. I hope my experience help you in yours. You've got this, lovely lady. You're going to be awesome


  • mimbarry
    mimbarry Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2018

    Hi, I just had my first two weeks ago. Every thing i had read explained about the bed with the hole cut out was what I was expecting, but the facility I went to only had a bed. It was very uncomfortable and I was in quite a bit of pain. The nurse was wonderful, but please please make sure you have the newer bed.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2018

    Personally I thought the "newer" bed with the holes was a torture device because it dips in the middle and forces you into an exagerated "sway backed" position. I got muscles spasms in my shoulder & neck and thought I would die before they let me move & change positions at the end

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