Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hi Carol,

    I was told to expect joint pain after my Neulasta shot on January 19, the day after my first TC infusion, especially in the big bones like sternums, thighs. I tried to go for my usual a walk a few days later and had to keep on stopping to bend over because of pain in my hips and tail bone. The oncology nurse told me this is perfectly normal; it is the neulasta starting to grow colonies of white cells in the bone marrow of your biggest bones...so that's good. You will probably feel slightly achey & fluey as well. This will go away after about a week.

    Your week before your second infusion should be pretty good.

    I had my second infusion yesterday, and yeah...my white blood cells counts are so high, double than they were previously to starting therapy, so I guess the Nuelasta did it's job. I'm looking forward to a cycle with the bone aches.

    You take care and stay posted here and let us know how you are doing!

    Mizsissy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Robertin, that's hysterical about that confusion in the women's bathroom!!!

    Robertin, you look so sharp with your hair cut. My husband leaned over and took a look and said you look like Annie Lennox of the Eurythmics. She came out on the stage in male drag to sing "Sweet Dreams" --- I was totally confused. I didn't know whether it was male or female but the eyes were so intense, I was getting turned on!!! Wierd!
  • Tracy15
    Tracy15 Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2007
    I just finished round #3 of AC! Yay...only 1 more to go before Taxol. All the docs and nurses said I am perfect with the exception of my red blood cells. I am now anemic so the last thing they did was give me a shot of procrid to help generate the red cells. I've now added 3 more pills to take to my regular 5 that I was already taking. I take Ativan, 2 celexa, Emend and I now need 2 multi vitamins with extra calcium and a calcium with D. Come hell or high water, I'll raise those levels. The thought of a transfusion freaks me out so I'll stay as far away from that as possible!
    I go this afternoon for my Nuelasta. But, my plan of attack this time is to take my percoset before bed on Friday because it was saturday morning where I couldn't move. Clothes hurts, leaning against a pillow hurt, water hurt. EVERYTHING hurt for 2 complete days. So, I will do my best to stay on it. I want to really try to get to a SuperBowl party on Sunday without being in agony!!
    Our Pats didn't make it in, but it's still fun to watch the game.
    I hope everyone is doing well today! I'm just exhausted so plan to doze alot today until I have to go for my shot later.
    All the best, Tracy
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Robertin.........I loved your picture. It's perfect proof that women can be beautiful without long curly locks!

    Mizsissy.........two questions for you. In what part of Michigan are you located and is there a special type of artistic drawings that you specialize in? Landscapes? the arts?

    Who has chemo treatments coming up this next week? Let us know so that we can send good vibes your way!

    Rita
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2007
    Good Morning,
    I have chemo on Wed Feb 7, so blood work Monday, Onc appt tues, treatment Wed. I did fine last time and am hoping this goes ok too. I am in the flower business, so while all my colleagues are stressing about the Valentine's hassles, I am thinking ... I wish that were my only concern!

    This is such a great thread! I can't show any fear or negativity around my husband, so it's nice to come here and be able to find ladies in similar situations, both good and bad. My hair is falling out the past couple of days, and that is difficult for me ... I was pretty proud of my thick wavy hair. But I have a nice wig, which doesn't itch as much now that I am nearly bald, so I will be ok.

    Happy Friday all!

    Melia
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hello,

    Turbans came last night and here are the promised pictures. Hair is falling out today, so they came right on time.

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    I was hoping to use some $$$ from our medical account to get Lasik surgery this year, but I think I'm going to need to work a few wrinkles out as well!!!!

    Mizsissy
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited February 2007
    Melia...we'll be here whenever you need to vent and I'll be thinking of you next week. If you did fine last time, you will probably do just as well this time, too. We'll send good thoughts your way this next week! Isn't it funny how our priorities change once we are "picked" for this journey???

    Mizsissy!!!!! WOW! Love your new look! I love that monofilament wig, too. I think that color is great for you and I don't find it too fluffy.......but then again, look at my hair! :-) Thanks for sharing. The turbans are very interesting and give a completely different look.

    As for the wrinkles........I have a lot more than you. I don't notice them so much until I have pictures taken and when that picture is enlarged on the computer screen...OMG!!! I need help and need to decide what to do. Anybody out there already tackled the wrinkle problem??

    Take care everyone. More later....
    Rita
  • irelandmb
    irelandmb Member Posts: 33
    edited February 2007
    Hi CarolMoore,
    Yes, I got the Neulasta and have had pain starting at my neck and it made it's way down to my upper legs.
    I am taking 2 extra strength Tylenol, which are ok for a short period of time and then it wears off.
    I hope you feel better. hang in there. I had the shot on Tuesday and today I am feeling only minimal aches. It should only be a short time inconvienence.
    Cheers for now.
  • irelandmb
    irelandmb Member Posts: 33
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    I think your wig looks so natural. I would'nt have known if you had not mentioned it was a wig.
    Cheers for now...
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007
    Hi everyone,

    Mizsissy, I think your wig looks great! Don't think it's too fluffy at all, fits your face very nice!

    Robertin, you are so beautiful in your buzz cut! That is so funny about the bathroom story!

    So glad to hear everyone made it through this week ok. It's been 2 weeks since my first TC and still hanging in there with hair. However yesterday I started getting some bad joint pain. I have not had any nuelasta shots or anything like that and think it's from the Taxotere, one of the less common side effect..figures! My knees hurt the most, but I'm feeling pain in ankles, hips, shoulders, elbows, wrists and jaw...argh! I took an Aleve last night and it helped so I could fall asleep, but I don't want to take that every day. My husband said he read somewhere that the reason for the joint pain is from lack of estrogen. Has anyone else heard of that being the reason? Since I'm premenopausal, does that mean I'm ALREADY being thrown into menopause? I did wake up with night sweats last night..yikes! For some reason, I thought it would have taken longer than 2 weeks. OH what a trip this is!

    Lynn
  • kids123
    kids123 Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2007

    Had my 2nd session yesterday, so far feeling ok. Still have my hair, the weird thing is i started lossing hair in the pubic area, very weird feeling - if it was summer i wouldn't complain - would save money on bikini waxes. sending positive vibes your way, stay strong!

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hi Lynn,

    Chemo will send you into menopause, and you may not come out of it...but it's all part of the process here. But we have lots of ways to get around things.

    Find out from your onc when you can start getting boniva or some other kind of calcium injection to help with bones. Another possibility is that it could have something to do with neutropenia (low white blood cell count) because taxotere will kill your white blood cells. I am really VERY surprised that your ONC is not giving you anything to boost your white blood cell count, because according to the medical literature on taxotere, it will result in neutropenia in 95% of all cases UNLESS something like neulasta or nuepogen is used. Check this out!

    The sweats certainly do point to menopause. I'm 58 years old and was thrust into menopause after stopping HRT last October, I've been taking Prozac for about a year. My hot flashes were very minimal to begin with, and are now practically non-existent.. My gyneologist said that Prozac and the other SRIs are really the best thing for hot flashes.

    Good luck!

    Mizissy
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy,
    I love your wig and your turbans. You look great. I am going next week to get my wig trimmed and my hair buzzed. I hope mine looks as good as yours.
    I am on day 8 and feeling a lot better. I find eating helps with the nausea. I seem to be hungry all the time, but not for sweets. I lost my taste for that, and desire protein, and graham crackers with peanut butter, which is good. As soon as the nausea comes along, I just eat and it goes away. Wierd that I haven't gained weight- I do eat and enjoy eating. I found happiness:food without weight gain. LOL. Although...that scale could change or maybe it is broken.
    Viddie
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited February 2007
    Well, thank you all for the buzz compliments. That does me good. Today one of the professors walked by and asked how I was doing. I told him, okay, and he said, don't worry, it will get worse. His daughter had colon cancer, but he's too old for me to tell him that treatments differ. Anyway, I'm a little worried, because I got my Neulasta shot almost 48 hours ago, and I don'thave any joint pain. What's wrong with me? I have some nausea, but last night I took an Ativan and I slept like a baby. During the day I eat pretzels. I forced a sandwich with Nutella down my throat this morning, but no desire for lunch. Dinner is also minuscule. I've lost about 4 pounds since Tuesday. So, I guess I'm not eating much. Don't worry, I have plenty of fat to live off. But all in all, I'm still hanging in there, and I'm still at work. Am I just some freak of nature?
    Oh and Mizsissy, I love you wig and your turbans. You look beautiful. And no, I don't think your wig is too fluffy. Oh, that reminds me: I read in this book, that eventually just a shampoo advertisement will feel like pure pornography for us bald ladies. Yes, I can imagine that.
  • irelandmb
    irelandmb Member Posts: 33
    edited February 2007
    Hi Lynn12,
    I am also premenapausal and was wondering if the extra aches I am feeling could be related to being placed into menapause? I also have stomach cramps, wondering if that is related also.
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Mizsissy, I love the looks. I wouldn't have know either without a head's up.

    I have my second treatment next Thurs. I am feeling good now and wish it were sooner to get this over with. Hair is shedding but not coming out in clumps yet. I'm hoping I can make it a few more days. The hair in my nose is gone and I have a constant drippy nose. Yuck, but I can live with it.

    Glad everyone is doing well. I an anxious to see what my counts are next week without the shots. I have been eating lots of high iron foods--Total cereal, steak--in an attempt to help the red counts. I am not as tired but maybe that's the normal pattern. Haven't gained any weight either and think I have lost as my jeans are hanging. Could be I'm just wearing them more and stretching them out. Oh, and I suddenly cannot get enough tuna. I haven't touched the stuff in years. These cravings are so weird.
    Amera
  • t4t
    t4t Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2007
    Well Tae got her counts done this a.m. and I just got off the phone with the onc nurse who gave her the infusion last Friday. She was kind enough to give me the counts - RBC is good, Platlets good, but WBC very low. To be expected she sez. Gotta watch out for visitors, avoid crowds, wash hands often, and call if any fever. That is worrisome. Hope the white cells come back up quickly. Tae had her neulasta shot immediatly following her Adriamycin. I told the onc nurse about so many ladies on this board who go back to the hospital the following day for the shot and she said we can do that too. It is just "inconvenient" for many of their patients so they routinly give it right after the infusion. Also I read many of you have used a cream called EMLA. This morning I asked about it and the onc said it was no longer available? WRONG! I called our pharmacist and he said he had tons of it in stock. Well the onc nurse said she had confused him when she told him that their St. Judes Childrens Clinic had switched from EMLA to LMX cause it was better with the ports??? Problem with LMX is it is over the counter so no script and no insurance help. The small tube is $30. We are going to try it to see if it helps with the needle stick prepping the port for the next infusion on Friday. I guess the learning never ends. Tae is feeling well now, just tired. Hope you are all in good spirits and hanging tough. Cheerio.
    Terry 4 Tae.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2007

    Has anyone else had trouble with reading on your computer? Since chemo I get a headache and feel queasy every time I try to read email or do anything online. A major problem since my job revolves around my computer. After just a couple of minutes in front of the screen I feel terrible. Is it just me?

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Hello, Terry & Tae, sorry you are have blood count troubles..fortunately that's nothing that can't be fixed. It is so nice to SEE the two of you together. You look like such a happy couple...!!!

    Mizsissy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2007
    Jan, I cannot remember how many days out you are. I had a hard time reading on the computer for about a week or so. A) I couldn't concentrate on more than a few lines at a time--had to keep re-reading things to understand and B) it would give me a headache and nausea as well. I have no problems with it now though. Although, the resolution on our monitor is all screwy and it's hard to see photos. They are all wavy and such. Better get that taken care of before next week or I will get sea sick after chemo.
    Amera
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited February 2007
    Had my third AC today. I like all the employees individually. During procedures, etc I get focused, kind, competent treatment.

    But the communication in the office sucks! And I don't use that term easily or lightly.

    I had the first appointment of the day, 9:30. I'd had my VS taken, and my port accessed and the lab draw done and into the exam room at 9:25. "OH, this is good" the nurse said. "You're the doctor's first patient of the day."

    After waiting in a cold exam room in an exam gown for 45 minutes, my daughter went to ask if I'd been forgotten. Abby said the clerical worker got a worried look on her face and said "Oh no, the doctor's not in the office yet."

    It was another 10-15 minutes before the doctor arrived. I was able to have a good talk with her about what the next course will be after the AC. She plans on Taxotere. She feels it's not quite as risky as Taxol, not as frequent reactions.

    Anyway, after my exam and talk I got dressed and we went to the infusion area as instructed. After about 25 minutes I went and asked if the nurses knew I was there for a treatment. "Oh yes, they know. They had a meeting this morning and there are only two of them right now on the floor and they're running behind."

    GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

    I don't mind the waiting if they would talk with me and let me know what is going on. This is unacceptable that someone can't just stop by and say "We're waiting for the doctor" "The nurses are running behind."

    I'm an agreeable person and can be understanding of delays. But only if I'm in on it. Not if I'm sitting there expecting prompt service and not receiving it.

    This office has a problem. I've spoken to one of the lead administrative personnel there before about the lack of communication. I think I'm going to be doing it again on Monday while I'm home recovering from my Neulasta shot on Sunday.
  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited February 2007
    Well, it's finally starting to show. Only 8 days in first round of chemo. No side effects until last night with major chills and major fever.

    Called the emergency room, didn't go in.

    Called chemo dr today and they sent me to go get blood drawn to check my white cell count.

    Come to find out my white blood cell count was EXTREMELY LOW. (0.4) That's why I had a fever last night. But this morning it was gone.

    So now, I have to have a shot everyday for 3 days to boost my white blood cell count, (today and this weekend) and then check my blood count again on Monday.

    Sheesh... they say that if your white blood cell count is very, very low, your own body can cause an infection from itself.

    Thats what I've been going through today. Other than that, still no nausia, eating like a horse and hair not falling out yet.

    I guess they will change my chemo dose the next time.

    Weeeee.......... This is fun...
  • rachel46
    rachel46 Member Posts: 22
    edited February 2007
    RobbinJaye, Good to know about the sx and the link to the WBC count.

    Tae and Robertin, you are bald and beautiful! You both can carry off the look!

    The food aversions and cravings are wierd aren't they? All week I could not eat much of anything and mostly pasta or a little peanut butter. This is day 7 for me and I finally feel almost normal. Had a salad which tasted wonderful. But wierdly I cannot stomach any meat or poultry at all!
  • rachel46
    rachel46 Member Posts: 22
    edited February 2007
    A few pages back someone mentioned a MA get together in April. That would be great. I am north of Boston (Lowell Area) and go to Somerville frequently.

    Amera your teaching sounds interesting. It was great you could go out on leave for the rest of the year.
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    Hi,
    I also would be interested in getting together. I live on the Cape, but have no problem driving towards Boston area.
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2007
    RobbinJaye,
    Sorry about your blood counts were low, What a bummer. On the bright side, at least you had a sign, and they were able to boost the wbc before next chemo. At least your count will be strong going into next chemo session. It is better to get your wbc a boost now instead of finding out day of next chemo session that count is low and then have to wait another week before they administer the chemo. That is my fear. Small comfort, I know, but trying to find a positive side to your unpleasant experience. Have a nice night.
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited February 2007

    Well, it's been exactly 2 weeks since my first chemo and my hair started falling out. So I had dh buzz my head tonight. It feels so weird. Only needed pea size of shampoo and no towel for my hair! My 15 year old daughter was pretty upset, but I think she's kind of been in denial about the whole thing and this is the most visible part for her (even though I had a mastectomy in December).

    Mizsissy, I'll ask my Onc about the shot when I see him next week. I'm also going to ask about this joint pain. The literature says you get the joint pain about 3 days after infusion and this is 2 weeks after.

    Cindy, sorry about your problems at Onc's office. As if this journey isn't hard enough!

    RobinJaye, glad to hear your feeling better, keep an eye on your temp.

    I only had the food aversion for about a day after my first chemo and feel like I can't stop eating since. We'll see how it goes when I get #2 next Friday.

    I'd be interested in getting together. I live about 100 miles west of Boston and would definitly drive east to meet up!

    Have a good night!

    Lynn
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited February 2007
    Robbin,

    I am a little shocked that your medical team let this happen to you. Weren't they taking blood counts before each infusion? Also...I think most of us got Neulasta or Neupogen shots as a matter of course BEFORE out counts dropped becuase this is an expected and predictable side effect of the chemo. Hmmmm...

    Sorry you had to go through this.

    Mizsissy
  • carolinin
    carolinin Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2007
    Hi Tracy
    I have round 3 thurs, so we are on close to the same schedule. My first two neupogen shots caused bone pain, the the next neupogen and then neulasta did not, yet they worked. Perhaps you will not have the same se this time.
    I became anemic after surgery (loss of blood) and no matter how well I eat, can't get it back to normal without shot.
    I have notes at home, it takes an incredibly low level to qualify for a transfusion, thanks goodness there seems to be a vast leeway between needing shots and needing transfusion.
    Can I ask (since you are on #3) how your hair loss is...did you lose all your head hair...or did you shave it smooth...any change in eyebrows or other hair?

    Carol
  • carolinin
    carolinin Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2007
    Round three on thursday. Trying new anti nausea drug as part of a blinded clinical trial this round. should be interesting.
    Carol

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