Starting Chemo May 2018

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  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thank you, ingerp! I am hoping for similar experience next week. Planning to learn how to meditate..

  • BigPeaches
    BigPeaches Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2018

    Inna, don't be scared. There is a great thread about managing the side effects, things to bring, take, drink. It is VERY informative https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topics/706846?page=60#idx_1788 . I had treatment #1 last week and so far, so good.

  • wlo002
    wlo002 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2018

    2 weeks to the day...my hair is coming out in clumps. No worries, it's only hair, but I'm definitely buzzing it tonight so it's less of a mess to deal with. When I first told my kids that I had cancer, they didn't talk much...my 14 year old was exceptionally quiet. It's hard being a teenage boy and this just added to his stress. I found humor and little ways to get him talking...one of which was telling him he could buzz my head when the time came which resulted in the biggest smile on his face. My mom has voiced that it would be a negative memory for him and that I'm crazy to let him do it. Thoughts?

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2018

    Oh I would absolutely let him buzz away. Decades down the road he'll be able to proudly tell friends how he helped you through your journey.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    BigPeaches - the list is great! Thank you!

    Question: what do you normally bring to the infusion besides a book, iPad and headphones?

    Also, does any of you ladies do juicing therapy? If yes, how do you manage it?

    Wlo002 - I think it depends on how sensitive your son is and how deeply he is affected by negative things. If he is very sensitive and perceptive, I would probably agreewith your mother, but if he is a happy go lucky kind of guy (my son is), then give him the buzzer!

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2018

    Inna--I had everything you mentioned, along with a few snacks (and water bottle and tea bags--I always pack my own tea). And I did bring the daily newspapers with me. I guess think what you'd take on a long plane trip? I like crossword puzzles so brought 1-2 of those too.

  • MellieTX
    MellieTX Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2018

    wlo002, my 14 year old daughter buzzed mine- she thought it was cool to make me look like a bada$$ (like Emma Gonzalez!)- if my husband or I had done it, it would have been sad, but she was doing something CRAZY so it made it a good memory

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thanks, Ingerp! Someone mentioned a blanket, frozen grapes, and ice chips or hard candy to suck on. Also, I got cool socks with insertable freezer packs on someone else’s suggestion. My MO says neuropathy is not a concern during the AC part of my treatment, but it seems that people still ice their feet just in case. Did you ask your onco about Claritin in preparation for the Neulasta shot? I can’t figure out why would it help, chemistry-wise, but a lot of people swear by it. Am I overthinking this whole thing?

    I am trying to keep my condition from my elderly father, so i’d like to have as few side effect as possible. I told him my BMX was a surgery to remove fibroadenomas and almost laughed when the doctors did find them in my left normal breast. I told him I need a series of infusion to prevent them from coming back and he believed it.
    He is 82 and doesn’t speak English, so as long as I avoid the c word, he seems fine. This adds to my stress, I think. I am 45 years old, and this is the first time in my life I lied to him. Damn!
  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited May 2018

    re the claritin for neulasta - it's speculated to do with alleviating a histamine response.

    Here's one published case study about its effectiveness https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24664474


  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thanks, Moth! Will take it, just in cas

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2018

    I’m not doing Neulasta but have read lots about Claritin on various threads. Seems to help to take it several days before and after. I’m not icing. My half-assed idea is to wear sandals through the infusion and no blankets—I feel like I don’t have the best hand/foot circulation so maybe staying cool will help?

    I’m also trying to keep this from my about-to-be 90-yearold mother. Not sure that will work—there might be a dinner for her in a few weeks and I think if I’ve buzzed by then I’ll give her a scaled-down/simplified version of the truth. I think these older non-Americans are tougher than you think. She told me once you’ve lived in a country with war going on, you learn to take things in stride.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Ingerp, you are probably right. My parents were children during WW2. That, I am sure, puts things in prospective. We are from Ukraine, and life wasn’t a picnic there even after the war. If there is one thing I am happy about, it’s that I am in the USA and have a chance of survival because of it.
  • BigPeaches
    BigPeaches Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2018

    I can tell you this about the Claritin, when I went thru chemo the first time in 2008, the Nuelasta pain was unbearable. This time I was really concerned about it because I'm already in pain so I decided to try absolutely anything anyone suggested to make the Nuelasta pain better and there is definitely something to the Claritin trick, it is not NEAR as bad as before.

    For the chemo infusions, I actually sleep thru most of it because of the benadryl, just flat knocks me out. I do bring a book, crossword puzzel (which my husband ends up doing), blanket and gatorade. Drink lots of fluids!

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thanks, BigPeaches! The day X is getting close, so I am a little jittery. Will definitely get Claritin. Good luck with your treatments!

    Ingerp, let me know how you break the news to your mom.

    You ladies are awesome! Sending positive thoughts your way.

  • wlo002
    wlo002 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2018

    Thanks for your input ladies - I let my son handle the clippers and all went great!

    Tomorrow I turn 42, it's a 3 day weekend and the extreme dry mouth & taste changes are suddenly gone...I'm a happy girl!

  • ClareCo
    ClareCo Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2018

    Hi everybody. I'm having a real low day. Completely out of the blue, I had to put my beloved dog to sleep this morning. Turns out what we thought was a shoulder fracture was actually a fracture plus untreatable bone cancer. . It feels unreal coming home without him. That, on top of having cancer still feeling pretty unreal. I realize he's a dog, not a person, but god I feel awful. Can't stop crying. I hope you will not mind that I put a depressing post up. I just need to connect with people who understand today.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2018

    (((Clare))) I'm so sorry. There's been some doggy discussion on one of the other monthly chemo threads. I know you're heartbroken, but I don't have to remind you this is part of owning pets. At these times I try to focus on what a good life you gave your fur friend. Hang in there. I think one of the worst things is how quiet your house seems.

    Cry until you're out of tears. (And FWIW, one of mine was recently diagnosed with degenerative myelopathy so I've spent quite a bit of time this week. . . um. . . looking at rescue dogs. It's pretty fun when you're up to it.)

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    So sorry, Clare! Stay strong.

  • AlisonR
    AlisonR Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2018

    I just had my ovaries removed last Thursday and will get my port placed next Thursday with Chemo immediately after. I'm scheduled for AC-T but after reading the heart risks, I'm wishing they prescribed Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) instead. Does anyone know the protocol on how they choose which treatment they will give you?

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    It seems to me that people with positive nodes get AC-T. That’s what I’ll get.

  • ClareCo
    ClareCo Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2018

    thanks Ingerp and InnaB for your encouraging words and hugs. I really needed that!

    AlisonR- i had stage 2 with one positive node and the docs put me on TC (not ATC). I had such a bad reaction to the taxotere that im being switched to AC instead. I dont know the logic behind this but the MO assured me that the AC would do the job. Ask your MO - she should be able to explain the rationale. Good luck

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Ok, guys, did some research yesterday, and here’s what I found: ACT is a treatment of a choice for younger women with high grade tumors. I didn’t even question my MO about it...

  • AlisonR
    AlisonR Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2018

    Thank you Clare, I will definitely ask. Just want to get this over with, I'm startign to get in panic mode!


    Thank you Inna for your response. I see you live in Jersey, have you been to Mary's Place? If not - google it - its a cancer retreat for women in central Jersey and its absolutely amazing!! I wish every woman could spend tiem here.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Hi, Alison! I’ve never heard of Mary’s Place, but will google it now. Sounds awesome. Looks like we will be chemo buddies. Wish you easy time with it.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Hey, ladies. Question: will any anti-histamine work for the Neulasta pain, or does it have to be specifically Claritin? My seasonal allergies kicked in a day ago and I usually take Allegra, since Claritin wouldn’t work on me for some reason. So, if it doesn’t help with my allergy, how can I be sure it will help with the Neulasta shot? First treatment is on Thursday, hopefully my allergy will clear up by that time..

  • BigPeaches
    BigPeaches Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2018

    I've only heard about the Claritin working, I"m sorry. Alergies are a booger, they are getting me right now too, even with all the rain we've had, it's not washing anything away.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thanks, BigPeaches! Now I am taking both Allegra and Claritin for allergies. Damn! Worst timing in the century! My oncologist says, go ahead, take all you need, it will not affect the timing of the chemo. First session will be on Thursday. I think I purchased all I could to deal with it: Biotene mouth rinse, cold therapy socks and replacement gel packs, Claritin, stool softeners, Tylenol, wig, 3 caps, UdderlySmooth moisturizer, OPI nail straightener and cuticle cream, got 4 kinds of prescription meds from the pharmacy. Froze some grapes to nibble on during the infusions. Hope there will be no unpleasant surprises...

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2018

    All good thoughts your way, Inna. I'm quite sure there's a whole lot of adrenaline on board during #1 as well. You'll calm down some after this one.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited May 2018

    Thanks, Ingerp! I hope so..

  • iwannaseeyoubebrave
    iwannaseeyoubebrave Member Posts: 226
    edited May 2018

    Hello, I'm posting on behalf of my mom. She is 75 years old and was just diagnosed with IDC triple negative with at least one node involved. She started her first of 4 doses of AC yesterday. My dad asked me to come over around 9pm. He was worried that she was extremely tired, lethargic and slurring her words. I came over and confirmed that she was extremely tired but coherent. Called the doctor on call and he said she shouldn't be so tired. I got her up, had her take a shower and made her get into her jammies. She still had her day clothes on. Blood pressure was perfect and no fever. She's a non insulin diabetic so I also checked her blood sugar which was somewhat high due to the steroids they gave her. I chatted with her for a bit and she seemed to perk up a little. I think(hope) it was a combination of a long and stressful day and all the anti nausea meds they gave her. Nulesta shot is scheduled for this afternoon. I'm also a BC survivor but this chemo process is very new to me and am trying to be my mom's advocate as we take all necessary steps to get through this. All the best to you lovely ladies.

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