Bad Scan News

Snowfall
Snowfall Member Posts: 90

I had my PET-CT today, and the news isn't so good. Back in August when I was diagnosed, I had liver lesions and lung nodules. The liver was more concerning, but happily responded well to TDM2. I got moved to Xeloda/Tykerb after 6 rounds of TDM1 because the lung nodules were growing. After three cycles of Xeloda, the liver may still be okay, but the lung nodules are growing and spreading, now in both lungs.

We've tried 6 different kinds of chemo. The bottom line is that my cancer does not respond to chemo, hust laughs in its face. While I'm HER2 positive, I also haven't had a good response to Herceptin or Perjeta. At this point, it's looking like the options are to continue trying chemo simply to be doing something, consider a Phase 1 trial here at Mayo (we don't even know if there's an appropriate one available, but will look into it), or go off treatment and handle symptoms as they arise until the end. I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in taking dramatic measures to pursue treatment at all costs. In my heart, I know I would be mad at myself if I wind up on my deathbed having spent the previous months on ineffective treatment rather than living the good days while I have them. At the rate that the lung nodules are growing, my oncologist's best guess that I'll have several months before it becomes life threatening.

Lots to process here. I don't mind dying, but it's kind of sad to think of all I will miss. I really hate the pain that it brings to my family. On the one hand, there are no bad choices here, but partly that's because that the other hand is that there are no good choices.

Rose

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  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited March 2018

    I don't really know you, haven't read many of your posts, but I am so sorry to hear that all of you TX has failed you. It sounds like we had MBC DX at the same time, December of 2016 . Mine was such a shock with mets to liver, lung and chest. So, in exactly the same amount of time on only one drug combo and two local procedures to my liver, I've had mostly good response. How is this fair? It is not. I wish it could have been fair for you. Someday I might be in your situation, I cannot predict what I would do but I know I would be conflicted. I wish the best for you.💞

  • SandiBeach57
    SandiBeach57 Member Posts: 1,617
    edited March 2018

    Hi, I am sorry you have the added stress of searching for treatments. You did not mention, but were fresh biopsies taken from your lung lesions? So no chance they are a different beast? Like hormonal positive? You never know what surprise treatments might turn this around. It sounds like you have folks working on your behalf to look for trials. I will be thinking of you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2018

    I just started the DS8201 trial at Mayo Jacksonville. All the above treatments have failed me as well. I had Herceptin/Perjeta with Taxol neoadjuvantly, tdm1 in a adjuvant clinical trial for locally advanced, Tykerb/Xeloda 2016 and retried HP with Taxotere last fall. DS8201 is like Tdm1 but twice as potent. I don’t know what mayo location you go to but it might be available to you. It’s had great preliminary results. Another option would be that Cascadian Therapies recently opened a compassionate usage program for Tucatinib so ppl can get it outside of the Her2 climb

  • MJHJAN1014
    MJHJAN1014 Member Posts: 708
    edited March 2018

    Snowfall- what a difficult place to find yourself. I am thinking of you just now and pulling for a treatment that will zap this flipping cancer. You will get your hands on one of the drugs suggested above and go from there. May the force be with you. MJH

  • Kkrenz
    Kkrenz Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2018

    Snowfall- I have been looking into this trial.  https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03319459

    I'm not sure what Mayo you are going to, if you are in Minnesota, this is at University of Minnesota. Please keep us updated


  • Snowfall
    Snowfall Member Posts: 90
    edited April 2018

    First, thank you all for your kind responses. It's been six weeks since my progression scan results. They've been tough weeks for me and my husband, and probably for family and friends as well. It's scary being off treatment when you know you have an aggressive cancer.

    I have been accepted into the DS-8201a Phase II trial. I'm excited to be in the trial, because the drug has been pretty successful for people with my treatment history and pathology. I probably won't get my first infusion until May 15th, 9 weeks from when I stopped Xeloda and Tykerb and almost 7 months since my last progression-free scan. I'm hoping the fact that I'm not dead yet means the cancer is somewhat less aggressive at this point than they thought it might be.

    Next week, I go for all my baseline scans. I'm not nervous about the process, but I am steeling myself for unpleasant results. We will be using CT scans rather than PET scans, so I know the measurement variables will be entirely different and more precise for my mets in lungs, liver, and lymph nodes. Nine weeks off treatment almost certainly means progression. I'm going to have another brain scan, which has me a little nervous. My last one was in May 2017 and showed no mets, but that was before the mets were detected elsewhere.

    I'm still pretty much symptom-free. I notice various physical changes, but can easily attribute them to things other than cancer. I'm tired and sleeping more than I usually do, and I seem to have a cold that won't quit. Cold medicine helps the cough and rough breathing, so I figure either Vicks has a cure for cancer that they haven't recognized yet or it really is just a cold and not dramatic progression in my lungs.

    At this point I am focused on finishing out the semester (I'm a college prof) and getting ready for treatment. The trial site is an 8-hour drive from home, and I'll have to be there for three or four days out of each of the first 5 to 6 weeks. After that, treatment is just every third week. I've tried to get my work colleaguesprepared for me being on a wacky schedule or unavailable in the fall semester, but it's hard to know what to say to them. I look and seem healthy. They know about my diagnosis, prognosis, and treatment plan and have been very supportive so far, but I hate to leave them in a lurch. On the other hand, I may be feeling great by September and be able to work almost full-time. The uncertainty is frustrating, so I find myself focusing more on today.

    Again, thanks for the support here. I post rarely, because my case is unusual in that I am in the small group of nonresponders to HER2 directed therapies, so I don't know that my experience is very helpful for others. I read every day, and you all help motivate me to get out there and live my life, whatever that means for that day.

    S

  • BellasMomToo
    BellasMomToo Member Posts: 305
    edited April 2018

    Snowfall: Thanks so much for your update. As you can see, we both were dx'd at the same time, are both ER-/PR-/Her2+, and had TCHP. I'm sooo sorry the therapies didn't work for you.

    PLEASE continue to post -- we (well, I) need to be reminded (hope) that new therapies are in the works, especially for us Her2+ gals. Thank you for participating in the trial.

    Sending positive thoughts your way.

  • sincitydealer
    sincitydealer Member Posts: 2,712
    edited April 2018

    Snowfall, Since you're HER2+ ask your doc about a trial of a drug called Poziotinib. I hear they're having great success with it in HER2 patients. The side effects can be harsh (diarrhea and rash), but you can always ask for a dose reduction if they're not manageable. One member here, Denny123, was on it for only 8 days, and it knocked the cancer way back! Poziotinib is taken in pill form. This would be another arrow in your quiver if the trial you're currently in doesn't help.

  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited May 2018

    Sincity-I second that message.

    I just had a second CT scan and actually, 8 days on Poziotinib put me into almost-remission....I now have no evidence of disease.  Currently on Xeloda and Herceptin for maintenance.

  • Daniel86
    Daniel86 Member Posts: 271
    edited May 2018

    Snowfall, we are rooting for you. Let us know how things are going.

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