Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • rachel46
    rachel46 Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2007

    Day 4 kicked my butt! I went to work for a half day yesterday and today, then came home and really crashed! Hope this abates soon!

  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited January 2007
    well i am ok did the deed yesterday . I talked to my onc before treatment and he increased my meds . I only threw up once , the nausea was almost non existent . Handled # 2 much better .
    I am surprised at how you gals have to pay for your meds . here in Canada i do not pay for anything but dispensing fees at the drugstore . Did not have to choose which treatment to take either .
    Today day two no nausea just tired and taking it easy .
    We can do this girls!!!!!!!!
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2007
    Here I am, post Chemo 1. It was like a day at the Spa. I was pampered in my reclining chair, and didn't even feel the pricks in my port. It took a little effort to find the entry to the port, but the prick was not there. The nurse says that in two weeks it will be easier, because the swelling will be down. So, I sat in my chair and had all my meds, the steroids, the anxiety drug, the ani-nausia etc. I was given a blanket and dozed off. My husband woke me up when he came back from home with the camera. Next I woke up again when the nurse came in with the first med, the "red coolaid" and I can't remember which one it is, but it is pushed through the IV by the nurse, who took a generous 30 minutes for it. Next came the IV, and in total it took me about 3.25 hour. I can even get chemo massages: 15 min for $10. Have to check that out. The first one is free.
    Now about the Neulasta. I think doctor's office have pitbulls working for them. This morning at 12:00 I got a phone call from the onc's nurse, and still I had no approval for neulasta. "hang in there," she said, we might have to move the chemo to tomorrow. NOT. Half an hour later the insurance company had given in. Now, what is important to remember is that the insurance company treated the request as a request for medication, but the doctor's office treated it as in-hospital treatment. And there is a big difference between the two. So, the insurance company decided to allow the treatment, and the pharmacy review board was bypassed. Good to know. Well, I'm tired and I'm vegging in my bed. No nausea, but I think I will sleep well. Hope that is the same for all of you. I can't believe it: only 7 more sessions to go.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2007
    Robertin, congratulations on your first infusion. I think you have graduated with flying colors. And hooray for Neulasta! They really do take good care of us these days,all the anti-anxiety drugs, steriods, etc. You probably have a few *blah* days ahead.

    And Shorti, what flavor is your chemo? I forgot. Glad you have control of nausea. Sirgen...take it easy!! You're making the rest of us nervous with all this job activity. Geesh!

    I'm ready to start cycle 2, I take steriods tomorrow AM. Even though everything has gone fine so far I'm nervous about it, but that'll go away once I get my meds...hey we're all turning into a bunch of druggies!!

    Got my $350 wig trimmed up today at the most fashionable salon in town..(no, I did not have to pay for the wig). It looks a lot better, is flattering and looks like real hair, but I'm not comfortable with it yet. Washed my hair tonight fully expecting all of it to come out (tomorrow is Day 14) but it still looks healthy & shining. I am hoping I am one of the ones that doesn't lose it!

    Take care all...sleep well!
  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited January 2007
    Mizsissy,
    I think my hair will fall out tomorrow too, since it is day 14. My head has been itchy for a week and had really thinned out when I got it cut last Friday really short. Are you doing dose dense? My next infusion cycle 2 isn't until next Wednesday.
    Amera,
    Day four kicked my butt too. I thought that I could go to the mall and walk around. I got all teary and had to have my family take me home to bed!. Take care everyone. ilene
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited January 2007
    Robertin..........congrats on your first chemo and on doing so well! I hope you have little or no side affects! Now you know what to expect and the nerves should calm down a little.

    Mizsissy.......good luck on #2. With your positive attitude, I'm sure you'll fly through it easily! I must admit that my attitude is becoming more positive now that the nausea seems to have passed and a couple of uneventful weeks loom ahead before I start the second cycle.

    Hope all of you ladies had a good day and that tomorrow will be even better!!

    Rita
  • t4t
    t4t Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2007
    Hi Ladies,

    We're back. It's been a rough few days but here we are thru day 5 and Tae is a bit improved. The fatigue is still there and everything tastes like yuk - those are the biggest problems. The nausea is less and less now but still occasional. And the daily headache. Advil helps. Trying to find a food that she will eat more than a spoonful is my greatest challenge. Tae also says the water started tasting bad yesterday. Does anyone else have this taste aversion? You know y'all are heroes.

    Terry 4 Tae
  • chapuzan
    chapuzan Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2009

    I had second round chemo on Thursday I had my hair cut down very low before.  On Monday my beautician came to my house and buzzed it off at no charge. I'm having a lot of itching now almost unbearable. Everything taste so bad I don't really have a desire to eat anything. This round had me in bed for 3 days it was worse than the first round. Only 12 more to go.

  • rachel46
    rachel46 Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2007
    Hi T4T,

    Yeah the taste aversion thing is a problem. I would not say I have had serious nausea, but most foods just do not appeal to me. I can't stomach any kind of meat or poultry or fruit at all. Mostly just a little pasta or bread. It is a little better today, I had an egg. Not that aversion to food is a bad thing for me . I had to switch off the Food channel on TV. Paula Dean and all that butter made me seriously nauseous!
  • jasmine
    jasmine Member Posts: 1,286
    edited July 2008

    My onc nurses told me to make sure NOT to eat my favorite foods during chemo or it would no longer be my favorite food. I lived off mac n cheese. Its the only thing that tasted good to me. You will find your one food that will work for you. For the metallic taste or bad taste in your mouth, sucking on lemon drops helped me alot. The sour seemed to take the metal taste away. Also, use plastic utensils to eat with instead of your normal dinnerware.

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2007
    Hi Terry,

    Now I get your name t4t...it's cool! Congratulations, Tae is through the worst part and will continue to feel better.

    I had taxotere which strongly affected my sense of taste, and it depends on what Tae got (TC, AC?). Sweet things tasted awful, even my favorite tea, but I loved things with texture, like lettuce and celery. Strangely enough, fish tasted even better than before. Salmon (well cooked) is a wonderfully nutritious food for someone recovering from a chemo infusion.

    In my case, my taste improved and was practically back the second week of my cycle. But it is very important to wash her mouth out with warm salt water several times a day (espec. after eating) because mouth sores can develop.

    Keep up the good work!!!

    xxxoo Mizsissy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2007
    Yeah Robertin on your first infusion! Isn't it surreal that we are cheering chemo? Who would've thought? Are you being treated at Lawrence Memorial? I'm impressed with their care but not surprised. I'd love to move back there some day. Were you able to stay awake for the KU/NU game? That was worth seeing...rock chalk!

    My food aversion and weird taste disappeared at about day 6. I can now watch the Food Network and not feel sickish but still no desire for heavy sweets or junk. I have been living on eggs and toast and cucumbers (?) of all things.

    I am on day 14 and still have hair. No itching either. I keep wondering if they gave me the right drugs/dose (crazy, I know). I think the anticipation of it falling out is getting to me. I almost just want it to fall out now. This cancer business is so much hurry up and wait.

    Good luck to everyone on round 2. Mine is next Thurs. This time is really flying--fortunately. Oh, and is anyone seeing a nutritionist? I have an appt during my infusion next week. They offer it to everyone. That and a social worker visit. Interesting to see what they will say. I'll let you know.
    Amera
  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited January 2007
    I know what you mean about the taste changes. I had frozen a container of my favorite soup to get me through the bad days. Just the smell of it simmering on the stove as I heated it up made me nauseous and I couldn't even try it. I have found that dry cereal...sugar pops, honey wheat puffs, etc. work well to munch on and get me started in the morning. I also have cravings for celery (of all things!!!)

    Yesterday was my first good day. Today is my 6th day after chemo (if you count the day chemo was given since mine is in the early morning) and I woke up feeling fine. YEAH!!!! So rest assured that the queasiness does finally pass. I'm even going to try a trip into town today with a friend who's a 12 year breast cancer survivor. We'll see how tired I get. I really admire you, Sirgen, and others who are still working through this journey. You are indeed strong ladies!!!

    Good luck to those of you who are facing chemo today. My thoughts are with you.

    Rita
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2007
    Rita Jean...yeah for successful recovery from Round 1. I'm sorry you felt nauseous at all.! I loved celery too.

    I think we all agree: Day 4 is the worst, and Day 6 is a big improvement.

    I can't seem to get anybody to try fish...Salmon works wonders for me. Have that with a salad with lettuce and celery, a nice homemade vinagrette...Yum!

    Mizsissy
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2007
    Day 2 for me. Fell asleep at 9:00 last night. Had to get up to go to the bathroom twice, because of all the water intake However, I was dizzy, had to hold on to walls etc. The dizzyness is still not all the way over, although I can walk without holding onto things. I ate a bowl of oatmeal, although it filled me up all the way. Had a little orange juice with the vitamin pill, and I skipped on the milk although milk is the most important. I have my daughter take me to work. I don't trust myself driving. No headache, no nausea, just dizziness.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2007

    My first FEC tx was Friday - so this is day 6 and the first day I've been able to think straight. I knew with my history of severe morning sickness I was prone to have problems with nausea and that turned out to be true. I tried Marinol on top of the steroid and aloxi but it made me literally feel crazy. So added zofran and phenegran instead. Also took 1/2 an ativan on the really bad days. That worked OK but I've barely been able to eat until today. Probably lost 5 pounds. I can barely remember the last few days I've been so out of it. I'm glad to have a little energy back today, but just checking email has worn me out and I'm ready for a nap!

  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited January 2007
    6 days in my first round. No nausia at all. Just major headache the first few days. A little bit tired.

    Is it when you do the second round that all the side effects hit you? Did they maybe give me a low dose or something? Does it hit you the second or thrid week if doing doses every 21 days?

    Just wondering when I'm gonna' start getting my side effects?

    Believe me, I will start bitching when they hit me and come in to compare notes, but just wondering why my dose of AC isn't effecting me. Could it be that it's not working? I know every woman is different but....

    Want to know how many days in all your side effects started. 1st round, 2nd round????
  • Tracy15
    Tracy15 Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2007
    Hi there, I am new to this board. I just wanted to pop in and give some tips on what I found helpful and also ask a question to see if what I am experiencing, some of you may have too?

    I am going for round 3 of AC tomorrow. My first round was nasty as I made the mistake of not staying on top of my anti-nausea meds. The worst problem I had was the headache..I quickly found out it was from the Zofran so for round 2 I took Emend and had NO headache whatsoever! Trust me, Emend is the best for nausea and no headaches. BUT, round 2 and Nuelasta laid me out for 2 days on day 4 and 5 with excruciating bone pain and I have been semi-nauseous ever since. Even with taking both my Ativan and Compazine. Today is day 13 and I even threw up a little this morning. Anyone else had to deal with nausea for so many days after? I know it is cumulative, so that is probably the answer. It just stinks. I constantly feel pregnant, which I would rather be, than dealing with Breast Cancer. I do have a fantastic husband and two compassionate and supportive kids (15 and 13) I'm just whining. I really do have a positive attitude about this whole thing!
  • irelandmb
    irelandmb Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2007
    Hi Ladies,
    Day three for me counting the day of chemo (as it started early in the morning). Not feeling too well today. Took compazine twice today, should I get the Zofran? Feeling queezy, not actually sick. Strong smells affecting me, feeling tired. Did go out for a walk though, it's still cool here today in Florida, so I took advantage while it is.
    Aches and pains kicking in also, must be from the Neulasta.
    Hope tomorrow is better.
    Cheers for now....
    Glad to hear how all of you are doing. Hang in there and I am sure we will all find our own food combo's to keep us going.
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2007
    Robbin, I think you are just really, really lucky that you have no side effects. Are you a little more tired than usual? That seemed to be the biggie for me...well, the headaches too, but not major ones. I keep waiting for my hair to fall out here on day 14. I know what you mean though about wondering if it's not working. I know there's all kinds of literature floating around that addresses this. I guess we've heard so many horror stories that we assume if we're not completely incapacitated, it must not be working. Hopefully you will fly right through.
    Amera
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2007
    Hey Robertin...you look different!!! Did you just go ahead and buzz it or did it fall out. You've got great bones I think you look even better than with your hair.

    One of the serendipities about this is that it gets you to be really adventurous with new hair styles...!!! i've worn my hair long my entire life and now I like it short so much I don't think I'll ever go back.

    I am sorry you were dizzy at all; have you talked to your onc about this?

    Mizsissy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2007
    Jan, Tracy, RitaJean,

    I am really sorry to hear you are having problems with nausea. I am on TC, and I have not had one episode of nausea, I didn't even take my nausea meds because I never needed to.

    However, I was give the strong anti-nausea medication Aloxi in my infusion. They told me it would work for 3 days. I wonder if there could be some new help for you. There are so many meds on the market these days that are effective, I am not sure you should have to be uncomfortable. Have you discussed with your onc?

    Tracy, welcome here and congratulations at being so far into your treatment (more than half way, perhaps?). How many more infusions to you have?! Do you still have hair? Our prayers are with you,

    Mizsissy
  • robertin
    robertin Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2007
    Hi Mizsissy,
    I figured, I had the haircut, and I will show it off here. Yes, It is a buzz and it's covered by hats most of the time, although I like sleeping in cold rooms, so the hat goes off at night. Funny enough the avitar did not change on my browser. I'll have to check it with IE. It's 1:30 right now, and I'm still at work. I have check my spelling a little more, and I am a little tired, but all in all, I'm having a good day. I'll be at the oncology dept today to get my Neulasta shot. I'll ask them about the dizzyness.
  • lisaelder1972
    lisaelder1972 Member Posts: 171
    edited January 2007
    Robertin,
    You look great!!! You have a beautiful face.Wish I could say that for me.I look like Uncle Fester lol.

    Hugs,
    Lisa
  • Tracy15
    Tracy15 Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2007
    Thanks for the welcome Mizsissy,
    I do have Aloxi, decadron and a more powerful ativan all as part of my pre meds prior to the AC. Then, I take more ativan,emend and compazine over the next few days. I even went back the next day for a 2 hour hydration drip to cover all basis. The odd thing was that I had ZERO nausea until day 5. It's not totally horrible, just that feeling like when you find out your pregnant...I can live with it.
    I did lose my hair on day 16. It took a couple of days to come out and even then, it stopped at peach fuzz. My sister shaved my head down so it wasn't as traumatic as if it fell out in clumps. I had a ton of hair!
    Here's something fun though - my sister and sis in law threw me a hat party this past Sunday and we had about 40 women here at my house. It was the most uplifting, fun, positive day. We celebrated my new head and I got about 30 hats and a bunch of earrings, scarfs, etc. It was a really great day.
    I can get through this, we all can!
  • Tracy15
    Tracy15 Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2007

    Sorry forgot to mention that I am on round 3 of AC tomorrow then I do 4 rounds of Taxol....I'm getting there! I started on 1/4.

  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited January 2007
    Hi everyone,
    Day 7 for me and starting to feel a little better. Day 5 was awful. I had to call hospital at 11pm because of stomach pain and 99.99 temp. the doc told me to take vicodin and if fever went up that I should go to er to check blood counts.
    The vicodin worked- pain finally went away as well as the low grade fever, but keep running about 99 at night. Has anyone else ran a low grade fever? It seems that day 5 and 6 were worse for me. Probably because the emend wore off.
    Robertin, I know a couple of people(too many with bc!) that hardly had any side effects and they are still cancer free years later. The onc told me that everyone gets the same dose, whether it is every 2 or every 3 weeks. We all just react differently.
    Tracy, I still get nausea on day 7. I guess everyone reacts differently.
    Irelandmb and Jan, I know it is hard and frustrating, but hang in there- this too shall pass. We have to take each day at a time- so everyone tells me.
    RitaJean, I hope you had a good time today.
    I went out to lunch with friends today. It seems I feel much better after i
    eat lunch.
    By the way, for the first 4 days, I have been enjoying my favorite comfort food- soft boiled eggs on toast, only to read in my food book they gave me at the chemo center that soft boiled eggs are not good to eat while on chemo. You can eat hard boiled eggs, but no soft yokes. maybe that is what wasn't agreeing with me. Go figure.
    I hope everyone has a good night.
    Viddie
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited January 2007
    Hi Ladies,

    Wow, a lot of messages. I went into the office for 2 days (I live about 100 miles from my office which is why I work from home most of the time). Wow, I am absolutely exhausted and had a really stressful afternoon, then had to drive 2 hours home. Not Fun! So what did I do when I got home you ask? I got myself the largest bowl of ice cream I've ever seen! Feeling better now!

    My toe has gotten better and all other SE are gone except I'm still more tired than usual. Since I only work 20 hours per week, all my hours are done for the week so minimal work for me on Thu/Fri.

    Too many posts for me to comment on but it's so nice to hear from everyone so frequently.

    I went to the 'Look Good, Feel Better' program on Monday afternoon and really enjoyed it. There is a local sewing/knitting group that made us all hats, cute little pins to put on turbans/scarves and a quilt. Yes, we all got a home made quilt. It was so nice! If anyone hasn't done the program, I highly recommend it.

    Day 13 for me, still no sign of losing hair either.

    Not only CAN we do this, we ARE doing this!

    hugs to everyone!

    Lynn
  • kids123
    kids123 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2007

    First time doing this. Started chemo in Jan. going for my 2nd treatment 2/1. First round wasn't as bad as i imagined, like a really bad stomach bug. I'm stage I, had a lumpactomy in Dec. Will have 8 sessions of chemo every other week to be followed by radiation.

  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2007
    Re: hair loss. I still haven't lost mine yet, however, my nose and ears are really itchy. It didn't occur to me that the nose/ear hair would fall out too. Ewww! I feel like I have allergies. Anyone else? I wish the hair on my head would just up and fall out. I am getting stressed about it and want it to just go already. UGH--if it's not one thing...I guess I'm such a stress junkie lately, I have to invent things to worry about.

    I have to say, that without the hair loss, I think this chemo business would not be nearly as bad. Sick I can live with privately, but bald, not so easy. Okay, enough wa, wa, wa from me. Hope everyone is resting or eating or whatever else makes them feel better. We can do this.
    Amera

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