MARCH 2018 starting RADIATION
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Oh, Veeder. So sorry you have something new going on. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the new find is nothing to worry about.
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Hi Everyone,
I am glad I learned to speak up to the techs because today they started marking on the opposite side from my incision and I questioned why. The girl just said "thats what the planning team drew up." I started to get very anxious and again asked why . The tech then said they would check the xrays and make sure all was correct before doing the boost. She came back and FINALLY took the time to explain that they would be hitting the tumor site from both sides and then proceeded to mark the area all around the incision. I have my appointments at lunchtime so I get new people and I am a worrier anyway so this really upset me. I will be VERY GLAD to be done with this .! Monday will be my last day. I will get to do a survey online afterwards and boy, do I have some suggestions! Hope you all have a good week .
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Hi Everyone,
Well I'm officially half way done 16/30 today. Saw the RO and it turns out I have some skin breakdown in the armpit. So I have to do Domeboro soaks and Silvadine. I really didn't notice it until today as it started getting itchy. On a good note we caught it before it got to bad and everywhere else is good.
Veeder, Congratulations! Even with the tire and your new problem at least you are done with rads and get to sleep in your own bed. Hang in there. I'll be keeping you in my thoughts.
Kaywrite, Love the pic of you and your cousin. It sucks that you are both going through this but on the plus side neither of you have to go it alone.
Doubleblooming, You are in the home stretch, that's great!
Hope everyone else is doing as good as they can be.
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Veeder, I've got my fingers crossed that the worst this is, is stressful. I wonder if the doctors truly understand just how nerve-wracking scans and such are for us.
I've been busy trying to sort out what my RO meant last week when he said that I probably need my axillary nodes removed, what surgeon he wants me to use, and that my consulting oncologist said things he didn't.
Long story shorter, the RO now says he was quoting the CO's report to tell me the CO doesn't think I need surgery. Huh? RO said the opposite last week and then assured me it was true when I replied that no one's ever mentioned surgery before, and then he asked if so-and-so was still my surgeon (and took my blank stare and incoherent babble as a yes)? And now claims to never have done so? Blech.
RO apparently forgot that he asked my health insurance co. to authorize a global referral to the surgeon. The insurance company mailed me a copy of its approval. That arrived Saturday along with an outside agency's approval of the CT scan that the RO wants. RO told me I need a CT scan on April 3rd. The approval letter was postmarked April 3rd. Does anyone else's insurance company move at the speed of sound, especially on routine matters? (face palm)
I'm getting the CT scan. But the RO has completely destroyed my trust in him. This is a doctor who did an "exam" yesterday through my T-shirt to justify his actions. He insists he can feel "nodular activity." I don't even know what that means. In February, he declared me disease free. What's changed? If there's something in my rads' X-rays that concerns him, he should tell me that.
My mother thinks it's "refreshing" he took "took initiative and acted upon his beliefs." I think he's a slick liar who abused my trust.
I have 10 treatments left. Nothing better interfere with my finishing them. 13 months of active treatment is more than enough.
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Hi FelineMom,
I can't blame you for your feelings about the RO. It is frustrating I can imagine!. I hope you can get through treatment without any more problems. We do have to be our own advocates, don't we!
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Marigold8,
So glad you spoke up last week and followed up today with the RO regarding the Boosts. Your almost done!
Nancy116
Sorry to hear about your skin breakdown however I'm glad they are getting right on with treating it. It feels good to be halfway through. Thanks for your good thoughts for me.
FelineMum,
Of course that RO should be advising you of concerns with your treatment and xrays. Is there another RO working in the same office that can examine you or you can consult with? Even if you only have 10 treatments left. You desire a break from all this treatment and hoping everything goes smoothly for your last 10 treatments and then your done.
Flowergal,
When I had my boosts done they were hit from both sides also. I wondered the first day of it whether that would be the case or not. I just waited to hear whether the machine moved over me to the other side. Now I do notice more redness where the boosts were done on both sides.
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Kay, that will do!!!
I guess I'd better sharpen my drawing skills, pronto.
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Done!! It feels really good to be done, and very emotional - had a few tears when the machine finished the last "shot" and also when I rang the bell. I took treats for all the amazing people at the clinic.
My boosts were just from one direction directed at the scar/tumour bed from almost straight above. I guess it depends where it is. I was worried about it aiming at the heart and asked about it: they said the boost rays (at least in my case) are electrons and don't travel very far below the surface.
Hang in there ladies!
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Thanks Marigold8
I wish I didn't have to worry about this but if the surgeon thought it was urgent he wouldn't have me waiting several weeks to get this checked out. I hope it's just reactionary from the surgery. When I had lymph nodes removed from my groin I got regular ultrasounds after and surrounding lymph nodes were enlarged,and months later went back to regular size.
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Congrats Kathy!! I will be finished in 4 days .Then f/u with med. oncologist for hormone blocking med.
Good luck to you.
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Hi everyone - 15/21 today - I was here at 10:00 for my appt and the machine broke down. So, back at 2:00 for more. Joy.
Nancy - half way! Yeah!
Kathy - congrats!!!!! I'm not too far behind.
Feline - <hug> stress is the worst, and losing confidence in the person you should have the utmost confidence in stinks. I hate that for you. Can you switch ROs? I've got a choice of two here at Emory (home of the incompetent scheduler, but great doctor). It might help. Hang in there.
Marigold - thank you for the update. I am glad you feel confident in your treatment path now, it's so important. As you probably saw, I was much less prepared yesterday when I saw my RO, but we got to the point quickly and I'll see my film on Friday. I think it's important for a doctor to listen, not just for confidence in a stressful situation, but to catch any possible mistakes.
flowergal - glad they listened. Hope you feel better going forward.
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Marigold - I am so much worse under my breast today. My "burn"??/raw spot underneath has only gotten bigger. Because I'm "busty" (as the radiologist said), this is kind of common. The raw spot under there kind of stings...kind of itches...and is generally uncomfortable, but not horrendous. They gave me a prescription for a steroid pack to try and calm it down, plus some Aloe Vesta moisturizer to use, in addition to the Inter-Dry cloth that has silver in it and is moisture wicking. He again mentioned that he thought my bra was too tight and I told him I hadn't even worn a bra in a week and a half. He keeps suggesting I go braless too. I am ok with it most of the time (especially since it's been cold and I could wear sweatshirts, but I won't be next week at a professional conference.) In addition to the topical stuff and prescription, he is going to try to see if they can do my boosts next week and give my breast a chance to rest and heal before finishing my last ten whole breast treatments. If this all doesn't help, they'll move on to the Silvadene? cream (is this what you are using?). This is exactly why the RO had me go to 33 treatments instead of 20 to help try and prevent some of this. Darn my mom and her big boobed genes!
17/33 done
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petey, I feel your pain and I have pretty small breasts!
It feels like an itchy, burning sting under my breast and along the side. Also, I have a tan the shape of Nevada on my chest.
Day 11/20 done!
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Congratulations, KathyM7! I can hardly wait until I can say I'm done too.
You said: "My boosts were just from one direction directed at the scar/tumour bed from almost straight above. I guess it depends where it is. I was worried about it aiming at the heart and asked about it: they said the boost rays (at least in my case) are electrons and don't travel very far below the surface."
That is exactly what my RO told me. My boosts are at the 10-12 o'clock position but they are not as deep as the whole breast treatments because they use photon rays for the whole breast but electron rays for the boosts.
I'll be done soon. Only two left!
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Petey--I am worse today too. I wouldn't say I'm all that big-busted but when I sit the bottom of my breast does fall over my ribs and create a bit of friction there. It's so red, and bumpy, and itchy! And I have a rather burn-like feeling when I don't have any cream on it. Every couple of hours last night I woke up due to the itching. I do not have any blisters or broken skin, which is a plus.
I have been using fluocinonide, a prescription steroid cream, plus Midaderm afterwards.
Also I do not wear a bra at all, which I can do since I'm retired and since it's been cold here. I'll be happy to get back to wearing a bra; that's what keeps my breast off my ribs. The RO told me the other day that I should do my best not to wear one until my skin has healed, though.
Today after my treatment the RO came in to look me over and recommended that I add one application of an OTC 1% hydrocortisone cream and an antihistamine to my daily regimen. Told him that I already take Zyrtec for my allergies; so I can't add another. He said to expect the rashes to get a little worse before they get better (I have rashes in several places; the worst is under the breast). But: In two weeks, he said, I should be doing much better. Sigh. Two weeks of not sleeping well? Take a nap, he said, because he knows I'm retired. Bottom line--he must not think it's as big a deal as I do.
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Petey and Marigold - seems we are all getting hit about the same time. So far I don't have any terrible spots but redness and itchiness definitely increasing daily. Petey - have you tried any pure cornstarch to try to keep the area dry? I do sprinkle some around underneath my breast and it seems to help some. I also sometimes sprinkle it on a soft cotton cloth and just keep it underneath my breast when I am home and sitting around. I don't think much (other than time) will really heal so all we can do is try to keep the discomfort under control. The prescription strength hydrocortisone has also been pretty good to calm the itch but really trying to reduce any moisture to keep the rashes at bay.
Anyone else notice odd patterns in billing for treatments? I would expect them all to be the same amount except for the one day I have extra pictures and see the RO. So far I see 3 different amounts but the dates don't line up with where I would expect additional charges. I'll ask of course but just curious if others are seeing stable or changing amounts. Like we don't have enough to deal with now I need to talk about money - yuck!
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metoo2018, yes, funny you should mention it about the amounts.
I checked out my online account with my insurance and I see amounts that swing in $600 directions. Imaging? Meeting with the RO or PA? Not sure. The dates of service are all weird too. I called the insurance to see what was up and they said not to worry because the hospital has 30 days to make adjustments and finalize.
Yea, the last thing we need to worry about is the financial part, but oh boy, I'm not looking forward to this bill!
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BOOSTS: I am starting boosts tomorrow and have asked to see where the clips the SO left, and for them show my exactly where the .02mm dirty anterior margin was. They showed me the planned area for the boosts today and it looks like my whole breast! ??? Anyone have any experience here?
AFTER RADIATION: How is everyone handling what comes next? According to my SO, I'd go to RO, them a Medical Oncologist - but no one seems to be at the wheel here. I guess I thought they'd send me to someone specific, but the RO just gave me a blank look when I asked what was next and said the SO would have probably set that up. Yet today in my patient portal I get a message from "scheduling central" (which is a nightmare) with a string of emails that includes a referral request from the RO, for an unnamed MO. Hitting on my nerves a little.
BILLING - For my sanity I've decided to not look at anything online from my insurance company unless I get an EOB (from them) with a corresponding bill (from Emory). I maxed out of pocket expenses in January, so if I get a bill someone would have gone out of network without my knowledge, which would be awful. I already have to file a dispute/appeal with BCBS for telling me (and their own BCBS nurse, who did the investigating for me) the Genetics lab was in network, and then sending a letter stating they were out of network. When I called the nurse back to ask WTH, she agreed her own customer service rep told her it was in network, but I'd have to file a dispute. So I get to talk with these people on the phone, which hits on my nerves a LOT.
Just about everything involved with breast cancer is a stressor - they come in wave after wave. I've often thought there was such a gap in the great care we receive in person, while the people who don't have to face us are less accountable for their actions and are the cause of a lot of anguish. It seems cruel, but how to fill that gap, I don't know....
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Thanks for your complete information. I spoke with the RO today about boosts and he said, okay, I'll just pull it up for you. Oh, wait, system down. No can do. Great. He did say that clips were left by the surgeon marking the spot (that's what I thought, thanks to the information I learned on these boards, but a few days ago, the radiation therapists were like "what clips?" when I asked them. Really?). I reminded him about the dirty anterior margin - he nodded yes - and the original area in the 10 oclock position. Again, nod. Okay, I'll ask again next Thursday once boosts are underway.
RE the MO and Tamoxifen. Same. No direction, no MO appointment, no clue. I do have 4 months of Tamoxifen waiting for me so I guess I just get started on that? The surgeon directed me to wait until radiation was over before I begin treatment but she made no mention of an MO. I think I'll just start taking it after I'm done with rads....
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Hi All,
I had no clue what came next through this whole process, there was no central doctor coordinating. I actually had to request to be assigned to an MO. In answer to what's next for me, I've got the Tamoxifen prescription and I'm waiting until the end of June to start it after my vacation. Will have follow up on that lump in my armpit, and follow up with the RO for a skin check.
Tomorrow will be 2 weeks since the ending of all breast radiation and my skin is still turning pink. It isn't broken down even under the breast so I'm continuing to put on Miaderm 3-4 times per day. The red bumps around the aerola are almost flat and gone. The Boost area is still pinkish but not any more pink that the rest of my skin. Still have acne break outs on my chest. Hope this info is helpful to someone, and the pinkish skin quits soon.
Yes, bills are too much to worry about when still going through treatment. Although I met my out of pocket expenses for the year, I'm still looking at the EOB's. The bill seems strange as there's dates listed where I only had Radiation or meeting with the RO and all the charges are different amounts. Maybe they bill weekly for Radiation? I won't owe any money though.
kaywrite and Paco, yeah, it's important to have the RO show you were the boosts are aimed. Keep pursuing until you get an answer.
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Finished rads today--rang the bell and got a certificate of completion! Skin still intact so I'm one of the lucky ones. DO said to continue skin care for two weeks and then use whatever lotion I prefer if skin is dry after that. He also emphasized using sunscreen on the radiated skin. Am to have a diagnostic mammogram with US if needed in three months and see him again. Will be meeting with BS to discuss anti hormonal. AI not indicated due to osteopenia and concerned re tamoxifen due to macular degeneration so may be involving yet another doctor (my ophthalmologist) in the decision. Uncertainty continues . . .
Metoo, re billing, the amounts I've seen so far from my insurance reports have been consistent. Probably well worth your time to ask (and hope you get an answer you can understand!) My treatments are at a freestanding oncology center, don't know if that makes any difference in the billing process.
Wishing everyone a great weekend. Those two day breaks are wonderful.
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Congratulations Beaverntx! It's a great feeling to be finished.
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Congratulations Beaverntx - can't wait to follow you across this finish line.
Paco and Kaywrite - seems like my experience was a bit better. My surgeons office made my appointments for the MO and RO. The RO did not want to start radiation until I had seen the RO - even with a low oncotype score. So I saw both within 2 days of each other. I did start my Femera right away. It seems ok to have done that - minimal side effects so far but I guess I never know what is causing what. I wish I had thought to wait but it never occurred to me!
I hope you get the answers you need - none of us need any additional stress and to me knowing what to expect was the only saving grace. The waiting and not being able to plan was awful.
It is almost the weekend and sounds like all need a bit of a break.
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Hi Kaywrite,- I had my markings and 1st boost Tues day and the marks are also covering a larger area than I expected. I thought it would be just by the incision,' but realized the incision is just the entrance to the tumor and I know the surgeon did wide margins to make sure they were clean to avoid a second surgery. I made a post earlier this week about the process so won't go over it again, but the techs explained they were hitting the bed from both sides so I'd rather they target more than less.
At my post op surgery visit, the surgeon set me up with both the MO and RO and I saw them the next week. The center has electronic records so all my notes are available to all providers. As to billing, I have medicare and a supplement ( thank heavens) and so far since January, the $ paid by the supplement is more than my yearly premium. At least that's one thing i don't have to worry about.
Congrats bevearntx on finishing! I have only 2 to go.
Veered, the updates on your progress regarding skin reactions are helpful to me because i have some of the same issues. I also have little acne like bumps but breakdown and lots of redness. So it sounds like time will heal this.
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Thank you flowergal, Veeder, metoo, everybody, for the updates and comments on your experience with boosts, margins, and billing. It all helps.
Paco, I'll just scream for you: ackkkkkarghhhhbleghhhhhughhh. If my RO and therapists say what clips tomorrow they'll get my best resting-b%*tch-face. I've already told them that pointing is not sufficient.
Flowergal, that makes me feel better. I'll look for your original post.
Beaver, congratulations!!!
Best wishes all you ladies xoxo
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I'm done with rads but not celebrating.
I have a recurrence in my nodes. Until I have a PET Scan in two weeks, I won't know if I'm still Stage 3 or Stage 4 with mets. If it's local, then the nodes will be removed. My body needs to be healed some from rads if that happens. Also, since I have new positive nodes during rads, it probably isn't working. If cancer's found elsewhere, I'll begin palliative care. I'm not ready to die, but I don't want to do anything and everything to get more time. Quality, not quantity, matters most to me.
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FelineMum,
I'm so sorry to hear this bad news. Just when you finished RADS and thought you could relax some from over a year of treatment. UGH. How can they tell you have a recurrence in your nodes? Can ultrasound identify this? I'm due for an ultrasound in 3 weeks to determine what this armpit lump is I have. I hope your cancer hasn't spread elsewhere. Keep in touch with all of us.
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FelineMum
Echoing Veeder--so sorry that you are facing even more challenges just when you are at the point where you thought you could have a breather. Please keep in touch and know that we are rooting for you. Totally understand quality vs quantity.
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I had 16 of 28 today and after catching up here I see I am not the only one who is starting to have skin reactions. On Monday when I saw the nurse and RO I was told I had folliculitis but other than mild itching felt fine. Yesterday I starting feeling sore and pinking up, today the soreness has increased. I had a BMX due to wide spread DCIS plus the tumor and was told no radiation as my lymph nodes appeared fine. Unfortunately the pathology came back as node positive. So I don't have to get boosts, but I have so much area that needs radiation they can't do the higher doses for fewer days
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I decided to go braless today, was a bit self conscious about it but my saline filled bags don't sag as much as my cancer boobs
. Is anyone else exhausted? I am working from 6:45 am to 3:15 PM then radiation, between travel and treatment I get home at around 5pm, sometimes later. I make supper and ready to crash. Of course I have already started the tamoxifen so that contributes to the exhaustion.
I may be able to help with the billing, I used to work for an insurance company and radiation billing is strange, so the fact that it does not equal out should not be alarming, I know when I was reviewing these claims they would have to stretch over a certain amount if days so one bill may be for 3 days and another for 4 days, of course add the nurse and or doctors visits and x-rays etc. The SIM had a body but making is a separate cost and they are not allowed to bill the mailing on the same day as the SIM so you doll get that one bill for a day you were never there. I know for the month of March the insurance approved over $14,000, thank goodness I have hit my pit of pocket. I am still battling with my oncotype bill as they have it as our if network and the are no in network options. Without the test I would have needed chemo which would have cost them tons more.
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FelineMum - so very sorry to hear about yet more stress after such a difficult year. It would be nice to think there would be a grace period of no new issues for at least some period of time for all of us. My Mom had a distant recurrence and is on amazing chemo and hormone drugs (all pills - no IV) that have kept her metastatic cancer at bay for over 3 years. no hair loss, no real SE except some memory issues and occasionally nausea. She is 81, golfs several times a week and all of her liver tumors have shrunk to almost nothing. I sometimes wonder why they don't use some of those easy drugs earlier when I hear about some of the very difficult chemo treatments people are going through at earlier stages.
We are fortunate that there is constant treatment advancements and new medicines all the time. I thought I would lose my Mom within 18mos t0 3 years after hearing her diagnosis. But, she is doing great and I certainly hope whatever you are dealing with is easily managed and you can get on with living your life.
Hugs to all of you brave ladies as we head into a much needed weekend. Rest and put yourselves first this weekend!
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