Grief After Recovery

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  • kayakskibikehike
    kayakskibikehike Member Posts: 2
    edited March 2018

    I hiked up a small mountain a week and a half ago, just three weeks after my double mastectomy. It felt good to do something that makes me feel like me. After I paused on top to enjoy the view and eat an apple, I started down, and it hit me that this part of the hike I was on mirrored the part of my healing process I'm in. I reached the goal. Climbing up was like chemo and surgery... single point focus, clinging to the earth... but this moment is exactly like hiking back down to the safety of my car, one foot on mud and the other on ice, the sense that both feet could slide out from under me at any moment and I would fall into the great abyss of sky which should hold nothing but possibilities now that I'm officially cancer free. It feels precarious at best. No one writes books about great descents. No one seems to talk about them either. I know this has to be normal. I mean, let's count the things I lost: 1. My sense of invincibility; 2. My gorgeous, long, red hair that used to make me feel like Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus" painting and will take four years to grow back, if it even grows back red again; 3. My boobs; 4. What remained of my youth or at least my pre-menopausal era of my life. I'm 48. I hadn't planned on going through menopause for another seven years. 5. The sense that I have any control over my life at all, because eating organic, using natural beauty and cleaning products, all the things you're supposed to do to avoid breast cancer bought me a metric ton of jack squat. 6. My femininity; 7. My sense of being beautiful and desirable. If dating was hard with boobs and hair, ugh! Fortunately, I'm grateful not to have to be tolerant of another person or to feel sexual pressures and expectations even if they are ones I impose on myself in a relationship. At some point in the future, I'll crave companionship and I hope intimacy, but even if I meet a wonderful man, what will that be like? An erogenous zone has been removed and now I have this body that tells this really traumatic story. These are big losses, and it strikes me as normal to grieve them. It feels just like grief... The first few weeks waking up and realizing right away that the parameters of my reality have changed and are not changing back... And now this time where if I'm pain-free and distracted teaching middle school or having an exceptionally great visit with someone, I forget sometimes for maybe even a half-hour at a time that all of this has happened. Then I remember and the horror of it all washes over me again. Yesterday, as I drove home from work, I found myself screaming in my mind, "OH MY GOD! MY BOOBS HAVE BEEN CUT OFF! OH MY GOD!", which I sometimes want to scream in staff meetings or in the lunchroom at work or at a family gathering. I managed to stop it and replace that thought with, "I am breathing. I am healing. I am breathing. I am healing." This is a moment for unwavering mental discipline, I know. When I put oil on my incisions, I say, "I love my body. I love my body. Heal, heal, heal," a few times. And yeah, waking up in the morning all cold and damp from hot flashing all night reminds me that hormonal balance is likely a piece of this emotional state. But, man, I feel traumatized-- completely traumatized. No one warned me that when it was all over, I wouldn't just revel in this jubilant victory, but that it would be more like a country that won a war, but still had its cities bombed... looking at the rubble and wondering how to clear it, how to rebuild. In the last couple of days, I found two strands of my old hair, and both times my eyes welled up and spilled over. I miss everything I lost. I just miss it so much and I want it back. I suppose it's reasonable to expect to grieve for as long as I do when I lose someone close to me, but I'm hoping I bounce back faster than that. I know I have reason to feel so much gratitude for having my life saved, and I do. It just feels like parts of my life were wrecked in order to save it. I'm weary. A couple days ago, as I walked through the parking lot to the grocery store, I just thought, "I don't feel like being a bald woman in the grocery store anymore." It's been less than two months since my last chemo. It's been four weeks and two days since my mastectomy. Since I'm BRCA 2 positive, I still have one more surgery to go, probably sometime in early May, a full hysterectomy. I know my definition of success at this point should simply be, "Did I continue to walk through it today? Yes? Than that is success," but I want so much more out of life than just surviving. It's coming. I know it's coming. I will accept my changed body. I will grow my hair back and feel more feminine and more beautiful. I will heal and regain my strength and my ability to do the things I love like kayak, bicycle, and ski. I have a six-day canoe trip with my soul sisters through Canyonlands National Park in July. I know life will be more fun again and my vitality will increase. The intensity of grief passes. But oh, this moment. This prolonged, seemingly ever-lasting moment. Sometimes I find myself thinking that if I could just immerse myself in the Hoh Rainforest, I would be okay... just bathing in the green light and the energy of life, cradled in the softest mosses, held in the arms of giant cedar grandmothers... I'll make that happen, too. Nature and beauty has always pulled me back from the edge before, and I'm thinking it will again. What works for you, people? What soothes your soul through this intense time of sifting through the wreckage? What thoughts? What practices? What places? And if you've been cancer free for a few years, well, how long did it take for you to feel solidly sane with just the occasional blue day? Because man, I thought this was pretty close to the finish line and it turns out that it's nothing of the sort.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited March 2018

    K - Very well written and expressed. I feel for you and the acute sense of loss and grief you feel. I've been there. And still am sometimes.

    Emotionally, I think the worst times for me were soon after the BMX when I was almost inconsolable and feared I had made a huge mistake in the choice (even though I had thought long and hard about it). And then around the anniversary of my diagnosis when I really felt the weight of all I had been through over the past year.

    I believe it is a grieving process for sure. Only - in some ways, it's much harder to move on. There are constant reminders of what has been lost accompanied by the very real possibility that it's not over and done with. It's an unwelcome vulnerability.

    I started seeing a counselor to help me sort out some of these feelings, validate the loss and fear. I quit taking Tamoxifen because I felt the SE's were contributing to my mental and emotional state. I joined an exercise class for BC women. And I try to remind myself frequently that I am not alone. Many women have been through this before me. This site is still very important to me.

    I don't have a special place or a specific mantra. I do try to focus on the positive while allowing myself to acknowledge the crap as well. I'm working on finding more happiness through gratitude. It's getting better ...


  • Jojobird
    Jojobird Member Posts: 203
    edited March 2018

    kayaksbikehike, you are singing my song, climbing my mountain. It's been nearly two years out for me, and I still sometimes look at my chest (single mastectomy) and feel like, "What happened?" The shock of all of this takes a long time to process, and I'm not sure it ever really goes away. It's life altering. I mean: you/we have looked death in the eye. We've crossed a threshold, and most people don't get it, can't get the trauma of the diagnosis, the surgeries, the treatment, and, more long-lasting, the struggles of survivorship. I hear you, voice to voice over the hills.

    Things that have helped me include letting myself grieve. Let the sadness come and go. I go to therapy and have been part of a support group for cancer survivors. I run 3 times a week and read a lot. I hike, go outdoors. Also, oddly, the process of gardening is something I find very fulfilling. There's something about planting a seed and watching it slowly grow that is very healing. I make plans to meet friends for dinner or the (occasional) mojito. I also ask for help, and state my own limitations.

    Most important is self-compassion. There's no roadmap for your feelings right now: the only way out is through. Keep hiking, both metaphorically and literally, and reaching out as you have. Those are the healing parts of you that, even now, are growing roots. May they continue.

    Jojobird

  • AngelaTideman
    AngelaTideman Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2018

    "No one writes books about great descents."

    Holy shit, this is SO spot on. And as a writer, I now feel like I have to go out and do just this. It's like you've thrown down the gauntlet. :)

    I'm almost two years out from my diagnosis and I'm struggling so much. Up, down, up, down -- someone get me off the rollercoaster. It started as a deep existential angst/crisis-y thing that morphed into cripple depression that got better with medicine. But now I can feel the wolves circling again. I just can't seem to take any joy in my day to day life and I feel as though I'm simply waiting for the breast cancer (or some other new cancer) to return and kill me off. Plus, I really hate this foob they made me.

    Hmmm... I have no point to these ramblings. Just commiserating. And venting.

  • kayakskibikehike
    kayakskibikehike Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2018

    Thank you, all three of you, for your responses. Your understanding is balm. I was doing better each day and then had a setback four days ago. The day started off well. I had caught my bare-chested reflection in a friend's mirror and it surprised me because I guess I didn't expect to see it there, but this time instead of screaming in my head that someone had cut off my boobs, I laughed at myself for being surprised. When I went for a presurgical consultation for my preventative full hysterectomy, the new doctor read me my medical history and I just started sobbing. I had to give a blood draw like I used to before chemo. During an interview with an anesthesiologist's nurse, I had to sit in the same kind of chair I sat in when I got chemo and answer the same questions for the zillionth time. The whole appointment took hours longer than I thought it would and it left me with the feeling that my life was being consumed with this new development in my life. Yesterday, I had to get an ultrasound on my southern lady parts and was doing all right until the ultrasound switched to the colors and it reminded me of that moment in my breast cancer diagnosis and I started crying. Then, the sonogram tech found a mass in my uterus and for awhile there, I thought I might have uterine cancer. It turned out to be three fibroids. But that is the level of paranoia and that is how easily triggered I am back into trauma. The oncological OBGYN said that the vaginal walls of women on aromatase inhibitors are much thinner than regular postmenopausal women and that really freaked me out. I'm on Tamoxifen now but my oncologist intends to switch me to Aromasin when I've healed from this next surgery. I lie awake thinking about whether or not hormone therapy is the way I want to live. I started thinking about having a tissue paper vagina, achy joints, and broken bones, and I'm afraid to take this medicine, but I'm also afraid not to take it. I think about this time in my life when I had a hostile and delusional neighbor who threatened me and I felt the need to carry a handgun when I went running for a few months, but then a day came when I just didn't want to live like that anymore-- when I just didn't want to be fear-driven and carry that gun. Sometimes these hormone blockers feel like that to me... like I just want to not take them and try to forget that I ever had cancer... like I just want to let my body and mind find some kind of homeostasis. But taking all the action I can to prevent breast cancer from returning is what should give me that peace of mind. Sometimes I get so frustrated with the math of it all-- trying to figure out an equation that will prove I won't be one who gets cancer again. This is an interesting moment where there are decisions to be made about how best to go forward. Am I willing to sacrifice longevity for quality? Am I willing to sacrifice quality for longevity? In the meantime, I did find some peace talking with a Vedic astrologer that breaks down a lifetime into different periods and subperiods where certain things are supposed to happen. I'm in a double whammy time of chaos and things of a toxic nature and so I can tell myself a story where I won't ever be here again because I won't ever be in a double Rahu time in my life again. I figure healing myths are told in every culture, and it doesn't matter whether they are true as much as it matters whether they are healing. I know the intensity of this all will simmer down. It has to. Grief does. A couple months ago, I put a plan in motion to start a rowing crew of breast cancer survivors here in Wenatchee, WA, and got the rowing club and the Wellness Place on board to work with me. I have to heal from this next surgery before I can get that going. I wish it had already been in place for me to find peace on the water, exercise, and camaraderie with other survivors without necessarily retelling our cancer stories... just letting a lot of that common past be unspoken as we go forward together. Right now, I find myself not looking forward to it as much as I was... I suppose because I'm not feeling strong enough to lift anyone else up at the moment... but I'm hopeful that I will come back around by mid-June. My dad measured my hair. It's 4/10" long now. Sometimes when I think I'm not doing so well, I look at my very short hair and see it as a time line, like well, I am only 4/10 of an inch away from the experience of cancer-- not very far yet at all... so cutting myself all kinds of slack is what's needed right now. Did I walk through it today? Yes? Then today was a success. My next surgery is April 20. I thought when it was over, this experience would be over, but now I'm realizing that this experience doesn't seem to end. Or maybe for some it does. Maybe it has to or we go crazy. I mean, the truth is that every single one of us is going to die but most people don't spend their days thinking about it, so somehow we've got to redirect our attention before we ruin our beautiful second-chance lives. Anyway, thank you, sister spirits, for your understanding.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited April 2018

    K - I often equate this whole BC experience as a loss of innocence. It's not like I thought I was invincible or anything. It's just that I wasn't always second guessing every ache or symptom as possibly cancer. It's a sad place to be sometimes. Often.

    I go through the same internal struggle with treatment options. I've done chemo (required) and BMX (possibly overkill but allowed me to skip rads). I had a great response. And yet I'm still expected to take some type of endocrine therapy also. I really don't want to. I seem to have crazy, over the top reactions to meds. Is it necessary? Am I ruining myself? What if I don't and it comes back? How will I live with that? I don't want to do this again.

    There are always the cases of those who did everything and it didn't matter in the end. And the surprising stories of those who didn't and managed to escape. There are no good options and it stinks.

    I'm still trying to figure this stuff out and I had hoped to be moving on by now.


  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited April 2018

    kayakskibike, that was so nice to read. Thank you! Very coherent and so true

  • jdstr
    jdstr Member Posts: 4
    edited April 2018

    It's been a year since my dx, lumpectomy 4/21/17, radiation 5/2017. I was strong throughout the events as they unfolded a year ago, at least on the outside I was strong. On the inside I was in shock and remained that way for some time afterwards. I went through the motions of getting this taken care of so I could move on. I started taking tamoxifen in May, 2017 and started feeling the effects after about 3 months on it. I figured it was ok because it meant that I'd be around longer. The stiffness in my body, the aching joints, the fatigue finally all got the best of me and I decided that I'd rather have quality of life over the slight chance that this poison(Tamoxifen) that I was taking daily would lower my chance of recurrence. I stopped taking it just over a month ago and immediately started feeling better. I finally felt like it was time to put this C thing behind me and move on. Well, for my birthday, my mom sent me a "find a cure bracelet" and a ribbon necklace. The pieces are beautiful but receiving them meant that now I actually have to own my diagnosis and all that has and will follow. It was hard to handle the pieces. It is hard to look at the various pink things in my house that my friends gave me last year in show of support. I knew that this year anniversary was going to come and I'd be reflecting on this whole ordeal, but I was hoping I wouldn't FEEL it... and just as I was working through that, I did something at work a couple nights ago and started feeling soreness in my breast at the surgery sight, which is also the radiation (SAVI) cavity. Over that next couple of hours the area was swollen and quite a bit more sore. It's full of either blood or water or lymph, I don't know, but what I DO know is that this C thing is definitely not going away quietly. I feel numb again, except for when I feel devastated that I have no control over this and I can hardly hold back the tears. When I'm alone the tears flow. When I'm around others I NEED distraction from this. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the verge of imploding. Above, someone said they feel at times that they can't breathe, I share that feeling at times. It's 2:20am and I should have gone to bed over 2 hours ago but I was crying and couldn't risk waking my husband up since he works tomorrow. Logically thinking, there is so much more reason to be full of joy than to be full of despair, but I can't seem to shake it. 

  • kandyhunt
    kandyhunt Member Posts: 87
    edited May 2018

    I am only about a month into this maybe two. I refuse to look at the dates on the calendar. I think it is in some way of making it not real. i am scheduled for a BMX on May 30th. I have stage 2a IDC left side. I do not want radiation and so made the choice of cutting both off so they were even. I feel everything is surreal. Tomorrow we finalize my adoption of a 16 year old boy who moved with my husband and I a year and half ago when the people who were raising him died due to lack of complying with doctor's orders. It all seem so unfair to him to now have a new mom that is going to be sick so I refuse to think about it. But it is all I can think about. AS someone said on another post. CANCER SUCKS!!

  • eo2378
    eo2378 Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2018

    Kandyhunt sorry you're going through these difficult and challenging times. I had childhood cancer at 13, osteosarcoma. Fortunately, I survived. I lost my left arm and a year and a half of life, as I knew it, in the process. At 39, I was diagnosed with DCIS. Originally, I was given two options. Lumpectomy with radiation or a mastectomy. I did not want radiation or chemo ever again in my life (it was horrible as a child). However, I didn't want to willingly remove another part of me, only to avoid radiation,but I was sick with agreeing to something I never wanted to do again. After an MRI, another area of calcification was found. After a biopsy, it was also diagnosed as DCIS. My BS was now saying MX was my ONLY option. I felt a sense of relief... I wasn't choosing a MX to avoid additional treatments, it was now medically required to provide the safest outcome. I agree, cancer sucks and life can be very unfair. It's tough to lose a piece of your body that makes you who you are, trust me I know. I can tell you this much, in time, you realize and accept, it was never the breast (or the limb in my case) that defined you and made you who you are today. There's definitely an adjustment and acceptance period. It takes time to embrace the new you. The only advice I can give you, that has been successful for me, find the silver lining. Look for the good in this bad situation. After you've found it, hold on to it and allow it to help you get passed the bad. I'm a single parent of an amazing little 10 year old girl, she's my silver lining. She gives me every reason to believe better days are ahead. Wishing you the best along your path. Xoxo.





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