Calcium supplements concern
Hi All,
This topic might have been covered but I can't find it. I've been on calcium supplements for about 5 years (not for breast but for thyroid).
I've become aware of research that shows cardiac problems even at the relatively low dose of 500mg per day. Does anyone know what the latest medical thinking on taking calcium supplements is?
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I had one lobe of my thyroid removed abt 28 years ago. I remember being told that my parathyroid on that side would be removed also and that post-op my calcium levels would be checked to make sure that my parathyroid on the other side was functioning, if not, then, in addition to levothyroxin, I would be taking calcium for the rest of my life. In my case, my calcium levels checked out and I have only been on the levothyroxin. When you have a total thyroidectomy both parathyroids come out too, because, even though they are completely different glands, they are located like right on the thyroids. Here are two articles that speak to how parathyroids are monitored after thyroidectomy, and the function of the parathyroids. I don't think you fall into the same category as people taking calcium as a supplement for their bone health. https://medicine.uiowa.edu/iowaprotocols/calcium-management-thyroidectomy-patients-hypocalcemia and http://www.parathyroid.com/parathyroid-function.htm I am not a medical professional, just interested in these little glands that I didn't even know existed until I had one removed. You should ask your doctor about in your particular case whether your prescription for calcium presents a danger to your heart.
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They don't necessarily come out, but in many cases they are damaged unintentionally. In my case the parathyroids were not damaged but my calcium was still low hence I'm on supplements. There seems to be mixed evidence on whether supplements are damaging or not.
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Yes, there is a limit to how much total calcium you should get each day (check w/ your doc, but for pre-meno women, I believe the total target, including food, it 1200 mg. For post-meno, I believe it's 1300-1400 mg.) So if your diet is already high in calcium 500 mg may be too much. Also, taking a lot at once can be a problem. I've heard you should only take 500 mg at once or it can get stored in your veins or heart tissue. Maybe that's where you heard the 500 mg number. In practical terms, this means if you eat a meal high in calcium, you may want to take your supplement at another time of day.
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Very helpful. Many thanks.
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1. Calcium is not given “for thyroid" per se, without more, but for hypoparathyroidism (associated with damage during thyroidectomy or autoimmune) or for osteoporosis/penia or prevention thereof, and in a few other scenarios.
Nicola, do you have hypoparathyrodisim, either from surgery or autoimmune? These are rare. In that case you need adequate calcium from diet or supplements, along with calcitriol (active 1,25 vitamin D) to maintain a low normal blood calcium (too much and there may be kidney stone risk in hypopara).
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As for the controversy about cardiovascular risk with calcium in the usual scenarios, e.g., OP, affecting millions of people, the latest party line from bone experts like ASBMR and NOF, is there is no convincing evidence of risk, more the opposite, within limits of intake (and close to what Peggy said), though dietary calcium is preferable if possible. Calcium intake remains a mainstay of osteoporosis management as a building block for bone, balancing risk and benefit.
3. Here is a powerpoint for the hardcore. To cut to the chase, go to the last few slides showing conclusions. Of course, more research is always needed.
Best,
CP
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Calcium MUST be supplemented by MAGNESIUM. Magnesium "directs" where calcium goes and being low on it can make calcium deposits in arteries and breast etc. and not where it is supposed to be...bones. The big push for calcium forgot to mention this. Because Asians have low calcium consumption and do not suffer from thinning of bones, is perhaps because they eat a lot of foods with magnesium in it, which then directs the calcium into bones. Calcium is an electrolyte as well, and too much of it can harm the heart. Calcium Channel Blockers is a med used for lowering heart rate and blood pressure. magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker but the electrolytes must be in balance for them to work properly. ReMag is probably a good bet but you can get cheaper versions. Also, Vit D binds magnesium up so you don't want to be taking loads of that.If you have kidney problems, then magnesium supplements must pass through your doctor's advice.
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No study I know of shows benefit from calcium for bones or thyroid; possibly (and now debated) negative for arteries.
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Thanks very much everyone - good advice. And CP thanks for the presentation. I will look over that tomorrow.
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Bluepearl --
https://www.bones.nih.gov/health-info/bone/osteoporosis/background/asian-women-guide
https://www.everydayhealth.com/osteoporosis/osteoporosis-across-cultures.aspx
http://womensguide.org/osteoporosis/asian-american.html
https://www.nof.org/preventing-fractures/general-facts/what-women-need-to-know/#asianamerican
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This seems to be a classic situation where the advice has changed over time. I'm in the UK and the advice I'm being given by one of our cancer hospitals is that calcium in the dose 500mg as a supplement is fine - more is not. I should mention that I've had a thyroidectomy so my need for calcium might be a little more than for most people.
NicolaSue
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