February 2018 Starting RADIATION
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Blair2 - how is your bavk
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VL22 - I still have some pain in it. I mostly notice it if I twist, reach, or at night changing positions. It’s been off and on, but compared to a few weeks ago, I think it’s slowly improving. There was a time after each treatment that I was literally frozen in my movement with stabbing pain. I would have to sit up by pushing with my arms in slow motion just to sit up on the side of my bed when getting up. If I moved too fast it would stab at me. For three weeks if I stood for over an hour - I would be in pain and Had to ice it several times a day. This is not a typical side effect of chemo, but for me it was. Each treatment seemed to make it worse. I had it X-rayed, was put on muscle relaxers and pain pills. They only dulled the pain. NSAIDs are not good for my heart taking days at a time. It’s been a pain, but hopefully in time it will go away. I’m forcing myself to move, but I can’t bend over very well - like picking up things, or bend down too many times.Also it hurt when I coughed - having a cough these last two weeks - but that’s about gone - thank goodness!
Always something - hope everyone rides out our rads smoothly.
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Hi everyone..I am getting rads also. Today was my 8th one. Total of 33 so I have many more to go. Skin is very pink and I use ceraVe moisturizing creme and a gel that contains Aloe Vera. I lay on the table face down and breast hangs down a hole. Treatment is fast, about 20seconds on right side of breast then machine circles over top and beams from the left about 17seconds. So far so good. I do notice that I am more tired. Today I fell asleep in my chair for about 3 hours this afternoon. Feel like I wasted the day. Hope we all get through this as painless as possible.
Best wishes to you all
Diane
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Hi Diane - Welcome to the Community! Sorry you had to join us here but glad that you posted. We hope that you will find support and information to help you along the way. If you have any questions for us please do get in touch.
Best wishes,
The Mods
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Hi Diane - we have somewhat similar DX. This morning was my first rad. It took the techs 15 minutes to position me just so. I guess I’m just slightly slanted. I think the beams took about 5 minutes as it was under me clicking and buzzing. Like you, I’m faced down dangling in a hole! My gown was stuck under me oddly as they were positioning me - I said - let’s just take this off - So they were probably glad I wasn’t too modest. We laughed - they see you nude anyways, although of course your waste down clothes are on. I would only feel odd if a male tech was adjusting, but there isn’t any reason to be uncomfortable. They also drew a huge black “V” under my left side with a black marker - goes great with the “X” tapes on my back
So, one thing I did learn today is that the Accuboost is mixed within the external method. I guess tonight I’ll start using some cream on my skin. If the irritation starts - I’ll try the aloe vera gel.
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Hi Blair2,
Glad you made it through your first Rad, mine coming up soon after simulation. Did you mean your back was marked with X in ink, why? And the big V where exactly did they mark you? Just wondering.
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I also started radiation this week. My surgery was January 10th.
Looking for suggestions and experiences.
Lisa
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Hi all - I finished today! 31 total. My experience was very good in that I had no skin issues. I only used basic lotion the entire time. I had such a hard time during and for weeks after chemo that I feel I deserved for something to go smoothly!
I will say the one thing that really surprised me was the fatigue. It hits me about two hours after I wake in the morning. At night I have trouble falling asleep. If I take a nap I wake up and feel like doing nothing. I’m told this can last after rads also.
Good luck tp all of you - it is all truly exhausting but there is an end!!
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VL22-congrats on finishing! That is awesome!
I also started rads this week and got home from my second one. 2 down, 19 more to go!
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Hi Veeder - Hi Lisa,
Yes, after my simulation (which was week before last), they left these clear one inch tapes marked with “X”es on them - stuck to my back. It’s just for positioning as they were on my lower back. (Although doesn’t make sense to me why they were so low). Today, they put this “V” mark on my side near the boob, under my arm. Not sure why - I guess just a guide of some sort. I do know they position you within these different numbers they used for the simulation. I’m thinking these numbers are the beam numbers they use to shoot the beams, or body position numbers - just don’t know. Too bad there’s no tech going through this to help us figure this stuff out. (Not that any tech needs to have breast cancer - I didn’t say that right, but what I mean is some one here to explain the details.)
Tomorrow I see my radiation oncologist, and I plan to ask her if I could see a mapping of what they’re doing. (There may not be such a thing). I would really like to know how and where these beams are going through my body. I think we have the right to know what’s going on - I can be a pain to these busy people, but I want to know how this all works, and where these beams are shooting through me. (Especially how close to my heart and lungs). I want to know why some people have only 20 treatments as opposed to 35 with similar diagnosis. If I find out - I’ll let you all know what I learn.
Soon we will probably all start venting about our fatigue and sunburns. I’m wondering if our bras are going to be a pain to wear! Diane has a start in this headache - so sounds like treatment 8 is the pink stage.
LizabethM - how are you coming along with rads? Where are you withtreatments?
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Hello all,
Well, no radiation yesterday. It was more mapping and setting up under the actual rads machine. The communication between the dr. and the techs is a bit lacking. I'm not too happy about that. I will also need to ask my dr. why I'm now scheduled for some boosts when she advised us there would be no boosts for me. She originally stated because it was an oncoplasty (lumpectomy with breast reconstruction / reduction) that they were treating the entire breast. They don't know where to "boost" the original location since it's been removed and moved around so to speak.
My rads actually will start today at 5:45pm then regularly at 12:30pm every day. After being in the machine yesterday while they did more mapping, I am still nervous for later today. Really more for the side effects etc. And wow! The "box" that they drew on me that is within the radiation area is HUGE! It's about 3-4 inches from my collar bone, between my breast bone, under breast (a great deal) then around my underarm almost to my back. When I asked the techs they said "breast tissue extends farther than one realizes." It just seems like a very large area. I will see the rads dr. today and plan on asking all this.
Doofuscat- My area they outlined is very large as well. I've had several people ask me last night and today did I know I have black marker on my chest/neck. I had on a V-neck shirt.
Will check in again later tonight once 1st rads is done. I have a total of 28 (they originally told me).
Hope everyone is doing well
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Thanks Blair2,
Thanks for explaining about the markings. It helps to know what was done since I'm having this done on Thursday. I totally agree about seeing the mappings. I actually want to see the mappings before I agree to radiation even though I intend to do it and already signed the consents. I wonder if more treatments depend on the size of the tumor or the grade of the cancer. I'll be looking forward to hearing what you find out.
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Hi Blair2,
Thanks for your post on the mapping etc. I too have clear stickers with the "x" and "v". I plan to ask my techs and rads dr. today about how the beams are going through. I know they do this all day long and appts. are booked so close together. But they have to understand we have questions that need to be answered to ease our minds. I need to know to ease the fear and anxiety. As far as how long of treatments some are receiving than others,, I wish I knew. I can only assume some may get less radiation time because they underwent chemo as well. I don't know if my Dx shows below but mine was DCIS in situ however it did break through by 1mm (0.1 cm) and is a grade 1 or 2. I finally had one oncologist explain to me the DCIS in situ was stage 0 grade 2 BUT my invasive by 1 mm is a stage 1 grade 1. I did not know they staged and graded both. But because mine broke thru by the 1mm I'm classified as a stage IA. I'm ER+/PR+ but they don't know about my HER2 as there wasn't enough tissue for testing and I did not have enough tissue of the 1 mm for IBC testing (the invasive oncotype test). I only need radiation therapy.
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Dectorem - that is interesting about the partial break through on your DCIS DX. It’s good they are slapping it down by giving you some radiation. Will you also need hormone therapy too? My simulation was week before last and I almost peeled the tape off thinking they forgot to remove them. They didn’t tell me to leave them alone.
VL22 - gosh looks like you’re almost done! I bet that’s a good feeling. Any good advice for us beginners?
Sammi - you’re starting in this party - we will have to compare notes! Several started this week it seems
Just like with my chemo sisters - I’ll get everybody mixed up. I’m really as lost as everyone else here on this, but it’s nice to have a group to share our fears, side effects and questions.
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I had my first treatment today. It was so fast. I hope they stay on schedule and it all continues to go quickly. I'm pretty worried about my skin but not much I can do about it other than apply the lotion as recommended. Will keep you posted how it goes! My team was very nice and they were playing good music in the treatment room. He head tech said she made a mix and had put a lot of thought into the songs on the mix. I thought that was nice.
Rebekah
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Rebekah - we are quite a beginner group here! This is great you are also starting, and I’m glad it went well for you. We should all report how our skin reacts and what creams might work best. You made me remember that they were playing music in my room too this morning - some oldies that I swear they must have tailored to my age. The techs were much younger than me to want to listen to what I call “hippie dippie” music. (I was thinking that they must have thought - “here comes an old lady that was young in the 60s and 70s - put tape “B” in the music machine!”). Who knows, but I liked it as I love the oldies.
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Blair2, when I had my simulation, they asked me what kind of music I wanted (they have Pandora), and I asked for ambient music (I later thought maybe that was too depressing). During my regular treatments, I don't get a choice, but sometimes it's Motown oldies, which I really like. One of the techs calls it her "happy music." The treatment lasts such a short time, I'm not really concerned. It's not always easy to stay completely still. I've gotten good at ignoring random itches, such as on my nose or ear.
Skin is a little pink. I have been using calendula cream, which feels nice. My implant feels especially heavy, especially at night, and I am a little tired, but able to be as active as usual.
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Treatment 3 today and I am tired already. Don’t like this feeling. I am only getting 15 zaps with no boosts. Not sure why so few. Not complaining but will ask on Thursday when I meet with my RO. I am glad others are asking to have their RO show them how the beams enter their bodies etc.
I want to see a radiograph showing my heart and ask how much exposure it is receiving. They should be able to give you an idea of how many Gray of radiation your heart is receiving. The lower the number the better.
Not sure what to do if I don’t like what I hear when I talk to my RO. You can’t really demand a new procedure etc. and insurance will certainly not cover a new simulation etc.
This whole experience makes me feel very helpless. Still pissed I couldn’t get prone positioning.
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Welcome IzzyShepherd - let us know how treatment goes for you:-)
Today was my last day too! Yippy! My skinn has held up:-) It is painful though and I have lots movement in my arm again so I will need to go back to PT. But hopefully it wont get worse over the next week or so. My energy level is certainly down. First couple of weeks I was managing pretty good but now I am finding it hard to all the regular chores and maintain my exercise program. Basically if I can do anything I am happy with myself this last week or so.
I think some of the reason why some get more treatments or not may depend on whether you've had a complete mastectomy, axillary removal, lumpectomy, and reconstruction. I have a complete mastectomy and had 16 treatments but they were high dose as I did not want to spread the treatments out over a longer period of time. My aunt had a lumpectomy and I think had 33 treatments. I think if there is more tissue removed there is less likelyhood of local reoccurrance and also less tissue to zap. But those are just my guesses.
I got my date for my mammogram for my right breast - it is on Monday. Least this time I know what to expect:-)
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Hi Blair2
Treatment #9 today. I have a male and female therapist. I felt somewhat embarrassed at first as the girls are swinging side to side as I am crawling up on the table lol. After James realized I could manage getting on the table I notice he hangs back till I get in position. He always is the one to put the cushion under my ankles. Then they get on each side and adjust my position. I give up thinking about what I must look like with my DD's flapping and my ars in the air. You just got to laugh. I met a nice woman today getting rads. She has had about 26 so far and she said her skin is not doing well. She said it had blistered and cracked and they gave her nonstick pads to place on it and she has 5 more treatments to go. Maybe I will see her tomorrow. RO told me that skin issues usually show up around the last third of treatments. Bigger breasts tend to have soreness under the breast due to skin on skin rubbing. Keep a square of a soft cloth underneath.
Today I just laid there with my eyes closed and tried to zone out.
Back at it tomorrow. Hang in there girls
Diane
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Congrats VL22 and RoamingStar. So glad you are both done. Look forward to spring and a fresh start free of so many doctor appointments.
Best wishes
Diane
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Tonight I completed my 1st of 29 radiation treatments. It wasn't so bad. I listened to the music, watched the changing lights above in the ceiling and tried to relax and then closed my eyes. Once I finally seemed to relax it was over. I hope as each day continues it will be easier to do.
I did speak with the RO right after the treatment. She wanted to see my skin and explain the mapping and large box drawn on my chest. She showed my husband and I where the beams are going and the radiation is treating. She is conservative but also thorough. It eased my mind a bit. As for the boost on my schedule she said was incorrect. It's actually no treatment that 25th day but more scans. Then on the 26-29th day it's a smaller area being treated.
Blair2: Yes, I will be taking hormone therapy after rads. That will be my next info to read up on.
My 2nd opinion medical oncologist has recommended extensive genetic testing. My insurance is going to pay for it. They are interested to find out how many females in our family from mother, grandmother, aunts, great aunts, cousins all having a form of breast cancer ranging in ages from 32-70 years old. And many of us are Brca negative. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it.
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congrats VL22 for wrapping up rads. Congrats to everyone else who finished up as well. I’m just in the thick of it. #8 tomorrow Wednesday. So far a little burning. High fatigue. But I’m pushing through it. Going to work everyday and then going to bed early atnight. Been walking as much as I can, I am still achy from chemo though so some days are easier than others. Wish my hair would grow faster but at least it’s growing. That’s all for now. Best wishes to everyone!
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Good morning everyone. Another day another zap! I wish everyone a great day. And I have to say how impressed I am with those of you who are working or have young kids while going through all this. Stay strong
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Ladies, I forgot to mention I found several very comfortable bras at Target. Warner's has a few 100% cotton non-underwire bras that are really soft and there were several nursing bras without pad pockets that close in the front and are very soft too not sure how they provide support for lactating breasts but they will work great for Radiation boobs).
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Good morning, ladies!
I just had my 7th (out of 20) treatment this morning. No skin issues as of yet (thank goodness). I put Aveno on after treatment and Aquafor at bedtime. The fatigue is a killer! I can barely make it through my work day and I literally am in bed by 8. I am walking about 30 minutes a day, but it's really not helping the fatigue. My joints have started to ache something fierce! I am 5 weeks post chemo so I dont know if that has something to do with it or if the RADS are the culprit. I get out of bed each morning and can barely walk...my hips hurt, my heels hurt, my hands are stiff.....I feel like I am 80! I also have a lot of swelling in my fingers lately....so much so that I think I am going to have to have my wedding ring resized. Anybody else experiencing any of this????
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Miranda - Today it was the “Who” for music entertainment. Wow how it made me feel like I was back in college. My treatment went faster today as they didn’t spend so much time positioning me. The machine took one x-ray and two beams were shot. (I asked if three beams were done and the tech said 1 x-ray and two beams).
Doofuscat - I asked the RO after my treatment about the number of treatments, and as Roaming explained, it depends on each person’s situation such as whether they had a mastectomy, oncoplasty with their lumpectomy, also whether they had chemo treatment as it’s harder on the body to have intense dose as opposed to lighter doses with a longer treatment after chemo. There isn’t a drawn out map of beams that they can give you, but I questioned the face down method. I asked - if the heart leans forward in the chest, wouldn’t it be closer to the rad beams? She said the breast hangs much lower than the heart does behind the rib cage. Since in my case, my tumor had been just behind the nipple, the beams would be far away from my heart. When a persons tumor was further back in the breast- then it might not be the best technique to use. So many variables play out in these rad techniques.
Roaming - Cogratulations - you’re done! I hope your energy and the pain you have suffered goes away fast now that you’re through.
Diane - lol - yes, crawling up on that narrow table is a bit much - especially in front of a male tech. I’m so slow getting up on it due to my back. Thanks for the soft cloth suggestion.
Dector- it’s great your first treatment went well. Interesting about the BRACA testing. My bs wasn’t concerned, although I had a grandmother die of ovarian cancer. She said it would take two known family members who had BC, but how do I know as many people died of other causes generations ago. Another reason I did not like my bs.
Eightoutof8 - Sounds like you’re hanging in there. My hair had shown no growth yet, but I think it will be another month unless taxotere ruined me.
Littlebee - Sorry you’re so tired. Hang in there.I hope fatigue doesn’t bring me down much. Got too much to do. Still have pain in my back from chemo - week 7 post.
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Hi
I will start 4 weeks whole breast radiation in early march. My Radiation oncologist mainly left it up to me to decide whether to take it ( stage1b,micrometasasis inSLN) but when i asked him if he would recommend it if it were his mom, he said YES so I will trust his judgement!. I think my anxiety is much less since I know the complete plan now! Will take estrogen blocking med after. My sister had radiation last year for throat Ca and used Calendula so I will ask the nurse about this. They recommend only pure aloe vera or Aquaphor. Glad I found this site!
Good luck to us all!
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Hello, Ladies! I am having my second treatment today in Memphis. I am following with great interest all your experiences. I wish you all well, and I will post more when I get a bit of time. SO glad I found this group!
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