Thinking of MomAllTheTime and Dani
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Momall, what a nightmare. Deep down Dani must know that you and the other people who love her will not go away. We all worry about causing each other pain, but sometimes donโt see how too much protecting can limit intimacy. We need our relationships with each other more than we need to avoid difficult things. But it can be so hard to share. We all do the best we can. Everything I say to you right now sounds trite as I read it, because you are in the fire and I am not, but my love, respect, and good wishes are sincere.
Lulubee, please keep filling up those grandkids with their grandmotherโs love. They will be richer for it because you will be with them in spirit forever.
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Momall. I have not been on BCO for days. I am just so sorry for what Dani is going through and you too! You both are soooo amazing. Youโre truly the lioness protecting her cub. I understand that she feels if she takes a step back it will be easier for all of you. But in her heart she knows youโre 100% there for her in every way possiblle and will always be. Sometimes we try to protect the ones we love by withholding info but that really doesnโt work. We all need the love and support of those we love and you certainly love fiercely. I do hope the dr finds a way for her to get some relief. Sending you all lots of warm healing hugs
Bab
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Curi-ous exactly she needs the strength to put herself through it. Yes, those waves are fierce. How are you coming along?
Lulubee you guys really get it. Now I believe that the bond you create or any of the ladies here with the people they love, or care, the ones you could just hang out with, is never enough for the people that wanna hold momentos and love, I think you enrich the other lives. If I give someone a ride in the neighborhood they are so thankful and I feel so selfish because really I was making myself feel good that I did something good, you get it? It's always a thing with me and Dani, is it better to have loved and lost or never known love. What do you guys think? Yep, I always say the first and she always says the second. If she would not have been born Mom would not have to go through this. As you feel she really hates that we have to have "this" in our lives, and of course we understand this, but "it" is here, we are there through the thick and thin. As Shetland said give and give all you want, let them know you and live with you, they will always take that with them.
But the way I see it, if it's in sickness or other losses you don't have that someone, at least you could remember the good times, the smiles and sometimes the sad moments. But you lived life. So this is purely my opinion, but it's so great to be close to those you love. My Mom was one of those unique Human beings that loved every single person, extremely warm, and when she got sick only towards the end of her life at 95, I spent almost all my time with her, even Dani and it's such a tremendous peace for us (her daughters) that we were there when she needed us and shared such intimate times. And I tell Dani, when your little one is not feeling well she practically sleeps on top of you, and you let her it doesn't matter what night she is having.
Don't worry D keeps the UPS guys busy. If she can't go out, shopping on the internet is the next best thing. It doesn't have to be something special, but she got new glasses and she just shared a picture with us. Of course the makeup went on first. But then she herself says oh I"m so skinny and narrow, but we just commented we like the glasses and so it goes.
Shetland I know where your heart is, it's not trite. But yeah, I dance the waltz with her, she goes this way that's the way we go, she moves the other way we move with her. She is the driver.
Babs, didn't want to get you involved in this while the prince is here. I just give her the space when I feel she really needs it.
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Thinking of you both today mom, and wish I could offer more than virtual hugs. I so agree with Deanna about the Phoenix rising. We have seen more than a few good examples here.
I too totally get the "pushing away" of friends and family. I sometimes feel I am nowhere near my old self and hate the looks of shock or pity on peoples faces. Plus some of my family have become just too solicitous when they were nowhere to be seen before. Even my DH and lovely kids are just so helpful, compassionate and understanding, but I am so used to being the nurturer it is hard to relinquish that role. She loves and needs you so much, she is probably like me and has displaced guilty feelings. What I am putting them through as if it our fault......
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Hi Mom. I also think it is far better to have loved and lost. Would prefer to love and keep loving for sure and that is what I see for you and Dani.
>Z<
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Hi Mom and Dani~just stopping in to let you know you're in my thoughts and energies daily. I know you have to take one day at a time and so does she. I hope you both realize how special you are. As you go through this difficult patch, we are behind you with bandaids and gauze. To patch you both up as much as we can mentally. With unwavering love and support. Sending big hugs always! Much love ~M~
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Mom - just letting you know you and Dani are in my thoughts.ย You are two very strong ladies.ย Like mother like daughter. ย
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It is hard to be Dani, trapped in a body with a disease thatโs taking over. She would choose a wonderful life with you and her children. She pushes you away, wanting to help you prepare for a life without her. Itโs not easy walking her path. Whoโs path is harder? Hers or the people she leaves behind.
No one chooses this, lover her, hold and help her like you have!
Gentle hugs to you...
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Yes artist def guilty feelings. We talk about 100000000 times a day, and whatsapp BUT we don't talk about THIS not a moment more than necessary. You know her hubby is a good father but no matter what they will turn to her first, so yes she feels the same way she always the nurturer and she's not giving this up.
Zar oh I know how ferocious you are with yours, for sure love.
Micmei you made me laugh, I was picturing you running around with the bandaids. Thanks.
Cathy I know , thx. you got your coverage already?
Bstein, I'd say it crosses her mind, but im telling you for the real close people, that have lives intertwined with a person that is going through hardship pushing away is not gonna make it bette, it adds anguish.
Doc called last night, he came up with Methotrexate, and folic acid to minimize SE's. She will have to go in for infusion, i'm not sure yet what the schedule is, and she will ask him about the pill form. I wonder why he did not recommend that right away. I sure hope it actually makes a dent. I emailed him a summary of rads tx, he looked it over but after discussing with radiologist they said it's too dangerous for rads again particularly to the T2 area which is much needed. She has compressions in T2 and in C6 so that's crazy, he said she could get paralyzed. I sent back saying I'm not telling her, she is gonna have a fit when she finds out, she was really counting on it, i'm letting him be the bad wolf.
I just read David Rieff: Swimming in a sea of death (Susan Sontag's son), quite a read.
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Oh Mom, this struggle is so hard for both sides - the one being taken care of and the one who is the caretaker. I so feel for both of you!
I do believe in miracles - my oncologist says I am a walking miracle myself. Too long of a detailed story here, but I was so close to death in March 2015 with belly mets that had previously closed off my stomach to not allow eating or drinking. I had been on a feeding tube for 7 months before I had surgery 3/2/2015. A surgery that has saved my life, for now. My Mom was my caretaker for over a year so my DH could work. Most difficult time in my life and hers, for sure.
Your strong mother-daughter bond is so clear and I โค๏ธ hearing about your love and compassion for her, knowing that she wishes and wants to do things on her own that she once did with ease. Thanks for keeping us updated. I feel that I โknow" you and Dani and I certainly feel your struggles and pain, and so wish for better days ahead.
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Mom and Dani~Keep asking every question you have, sometimes I feel they have too many patients and really, we need to rely on-them being the Doctor and we are placing precious cargo in their hands. I am hoping this onc will gather the entire team and put it all on be table and come up with something. There has to be something to help her. Every time we start believing something, someone pulls the rug right out from under us. That is why we are forced to take one Day at a time , and everyday we are thinking of you And Dani, for the when turn around time comes when we can all throw up our hands in relief,that she is getting a much needed and deserved break from suffering and pain. Children are always the priority, I could be dragging myself over to the fridge for water, โHey Mom need help?" โUh no, pay no attention to me dragging my body on the floor for A Drink I am fine, just keeping watching that good old television" So I slither over to the fridge and grab my water. By then I'll need two, because I just won the gold medal for effort. But I smile anyway dripping in sweat.... ready to pass out from exhaustion. But I don't want them to see me as not able to do things. I understand how she must feel. That angel. Both of you, precious!!!I am sending hugs and love. ~M~
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Micmel - I drag myself to the fridge and then get mad at them for no realizing how sick I am. It's awesome. Can this just stop?
That is my hope for Dani and all of us. Why not?
>Z<
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Oh Southern you did go through so much, good for you and thanks for sharing good stuff. Micmei exactly, that's the part i love, mom you ok? , k see ya later, gonna go get some ice cream.
I am concerned, first she tells me that the liver feels hard, what does that mean? Her alkaline phosphate in 500 wasn't so high ever, her Creatinine is 0.35 her CEA in the hundreds ( wasn't so high in ages), what are the chances this methotrexate will do anything? She's only going on Thursday.
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MomATT- I was just reading up on methotrexate in advanced cases, it works well, more than 50% respond- the time to progression was only 3-4 months (well, OK, half go longer and some go a long time), and apparently not so bad SEs, so it seems like this might be a useful recommendation to buy Dani some time, get her on something that really beats the cancer back. But we need more and better drugs, faster...
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Mom and Dani - just here watching your path. Thinking of you and your family.
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thanks Curi-ous for telling me. i am upset, her liver is hard, she cannot slouch or bend it hurts. We'll see tom. And the blood #s are also worrying me, her platelets are very low and HGB. We'll see tom. She has been off chemo for 2 weeks.
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Hugs Mom. The hard liver sounds really scary.
>Z<
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Thinking about you both. One day at a time. One day at a time. I am sending thoughts of strength and hoping for relief and answers soon! ~M~
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Thinking of you and Dani today. Praying the MTX brings some way overdue relief. Best. MJH
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Same here. Thinking of you guys. Hope you have a peaceful cancer free day at some point soon.
>Z<
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It's so sweet for you all to keep us in mind. It didn't turn up so well. Dani has high fever. WBC 1.2 and e/t that has to be high is low and e/t that has to be low is high. NO treatment. She was very disappointed. You know when you are looking forward in getting chemo yep, that's how things are now, but it was not to be for her. Doc wanted to send her to get transfusion HGB 7.0 PTS 80 RDW low HCT all of it is messed up, but with the fever they opted better for her to go home and rest. She got Neupogen. And now we wait. All other concerns are in the oven, because now her counts have to get better, and her fever has to come down. He gave her an antibiotic. she didn't even have any tx for 2 weeks, so he retested her twice because they could not even believe it himself. Just another day.
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Sending prayers for Dani and your family. Hoping the antibiotics take effect quickly so she can restart treatment. We all want good news for you and Dani and more time to share love
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Momall, I am back on the mend and just catching up on the thread. Praying for both you and Dani. I am sending you a PM to tell you how I was able to manage some of the worse pain I have ever experienced. It is definitely a round the clock effort.
Hugs,
Robin
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Z~I have been thinking about what you said about them not knowing how sick you are. I totally agree with you. My kids are the same way, I just don't understand why, maybe I was too good to them and I made it too easy for them. I would just like for them to say hey Mom. I'll take care of this or that. It makes you feel like they don't really care sometimes. I also think it's them floating the river of denial. I hear it's nice there.
Thinking of you Mom and Dani every single day! Hugs and strength... and on we go. Much love ~M~
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Momall. Hoping those antibiotics work and fast so Dani can get her treatments. I know how hard this must be for all of you. Sending big hugs
Bab
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Nighttime prayers for Dani, Mom and the whole clan. Specific prayers for pain relief.
Also, always praying for all of the BCO ladies and men.
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Louis
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Louis-you are a dear man. Hope things are going OK for you and your family. Best, MJH
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Hey Mom. Sitting in my hotel room, watching the Tokyo Marathon from my window, thinking of you and Dani. I hope the weekend has been quiet and full of family time.
>Z<
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Mom, I'm keeping up with what is happening in Dani's world right through your posts. I hope this antibiotics get her fever down and she can get treatment and maybe some blood to help that hemoglobin count. Prayers coming hard and fast for you two.
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Louis - you are lovely man checking in on the boards.ย Hope you and your family are doing well. ย
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