February 2018 Starting RADIATION
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Doofuscat - I was a DDD and had a reduction type lumpectomy to I think a size D. (I’ve yet to buy new bras as I’ve been wearing medium sized sports bras). Yes, you do need enough breast to fit down into the hole in the prone position. Maybe a size C is too small, but only the simulation techs would know. You could always ask if it bothers you. I think in some cases facing up is better - but they should know what’s best for your situation. I think all these machines are suppose to spare heart and lungs. It probably depends what areas of the breast they need to beam. If your tumor was close to the chest, then it’s harder to reach that area if in prone position maybe - don’t know enough about it really.
The word radiation makes me think of nuclear war, so it is a scary word. I think it’s very low dosed and that’s why the treatments take several weeks. I’m not looking forward to the sunburned skin. Maybe in the next 50 years they will have much better ways to kill cancer or even cure it. If you don’t need chemo - you are so lucky as that’s like being poisoned, but there’s no other way to kill the cancer unfortunately.
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miranda2060,
I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. Good luck!!
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Thanks, Doofuscat! I'll be thinking of you and all other Feb. ladies. I'm a little downhearted about starting, but am girding myself for the six-week grind. Hopefully the worst part will getting up really early every day.
My bc counselor tried out a hypnosis technique on me. She showed me a study that showed that women who had hypnosis (more of a self-hypnosis technique you do on yourself after initial hypnosis session) significantly reduced fatigue from radiation (I mean radiotherapy). That sounds promising, hope it works for me.
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So at two weeks today! Man am I tired! As a caveat, I am getting radiation to the center of my chest for mets to the lung lymph nodes so my symptoms are probably different than others (my esophagus is burning etc. But I think the thing we all have in common is fatigue. Is anyone else do radiation other than directly to breast?
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My RO explained that the lungs are much more resistant to the radiation than the heart. Think it had to do with the heart being more dense and the lungs having way more surface area. I was recovering from the flu when he was telling me, so I may have something mixed up in there.
Tomorrow marks my halfway mark! Yeah- 10 down, 10 to go.
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Txgatata - You have gone through the gamut. I'm so sorry you have to suffer with the esophagus burn. I hope it doesn't get any worse. If you don't mind me asking, back in 2014, do you remember what your doctor said your recurrence rate was after your chemo and radiation?
I'll be interested in what creams work best for everyone. I heard that aquaphor is greasy. I don't like greasy creams or lotions. I might try to find a aloe type cream, or anything that soothes the skin. I'm so tired from chemo - I hope radiation isn't going to be as bad. I've got to get my energy back
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1/3 of the way through my 29/4. This morning I noticed the first signs of sunburn, mostly in the crease under my breast and a little spreading up. It feels- pretty much exactly like a light sunburn. Not too bad but I'm not looking forward to seeing it progress for the next 22 sessions. Hopefully it doesn't get worse.
Fatigue is just starting to set in some. For the last 2 days I've started feeling drowsy about an hour after treatment. It feels like good old fashioned I Need A Nap fatigue and not like I Might Die Any Minute chemo fatigue. I'm happy about this. Chemo was absolutely brutal to me and I hope I never ever ever have to feel that bad again.
No breath holding for my left nukings. The doc says my heart is nicely out of the way. My heart must be way back as I lay on my back for treatment and my breast rolls straight into my armpit. My team does an xray before every treatment to make sure the placement is perfect though so you know, I'm just not going to worry about it. I've done enough worrying. They know what they're doing.
Exciting news. I have fuzzy hair all over my thin spots and baby eyebrows! I did cold capping and saved a good bit of hair but it got really very thin on the top and sides. It's so strange seeing myself with eyebrows again.
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Blair2....I have to be on my back, unfortunately. They said because I can hold my breath for so long, that my treatments will be short. Glad I played the trumpet way back in high school! It gave me a good set of lungs! LOL!
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I thought today was my first radiation, but it was a simulation; the real deal starts Monday.
Got some good news from the MO: my oncotype scores on the two tumors was low enough that she's not recommending chemo. That is a big relief, and makes the 30 radiation treatments that much easier to cope with.
Hope everyone else's treatments go smoothly.
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Jadeshiva - you must feel good that a third of your treatments are done. Let us know what cream seems to help that sunburn issue. It’s also exciting that your hair is beginning to grow back. I took taxotere and I don’t like hearing there are law suits against it in cases where the persons hair didn’t grow back. I have a feeling mine will be really thin, as it was thinning so much prior to treatment.
Littlebee - that’s great you can lay on back with the breath holding process. The trumpet playing had to be good exercise for expanding the lungs. I never gave it a thought before. I know I would be horrible trying to hold my breath.
Miranda - I’m wondering if I’ll have a second simulation. They left four pieces of black marked Xed tape to my back. I hope they don’t fall off as my radiation doesn’t start until the 26th. Let us know how that hypnosis method works. Also, you are so lucky you didn’t need chemo! I still have a bad back coming up 6 weeks after my last chemo! This was not a typical side effect, and I am somewhat worried it damaged it some how. No one seems that concerned and it makes me distrust the medical society in that they avoid seeking into it. I never had a back problem before chemo
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Blair2, I hope you get some relief, and some answers, about your back pain. Right after my diagnosis, I had such horrible lower back pain, I was convinced the cancer had spread. It did go away.
I also have tape and tattoos. Today was just about positioning and taking images.
I think the hypnosis did help put me into a relaxed stat
This is an article from this site about the study: http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/20140221...
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I just have to chime in...I finish my rads on February 22. 3 more days of boosts then I’m treating myself to a piece of cherry pie on George Washington’s Birthday, I cannot tell a lie. On January 3, when I started I never thought the end would come. Now it’s almost here!
To all you wonderful warriors just starting... you can do this!
May you feel joy
May you feel love
May you feel at peace.
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Blair2- I used otc Aveeno for 3 weeks, I liked it better than the samples I was given by my RO. I had one breakdown on my clavicle in early February. I was given a prescription,thick white ointment, that I can’t remember the name of or find, to use on the area that broke down. Then I started using aquaphor once I got home for the night. It is thick and greasy, almost like Vaseline but thicker! It does stain your clothes...so I have 3 shirts a wear at home in between washings and one tank top that has been filling in as a bra. I’ll just keep washing and using the same item of clothing at home. That way I won’t ruin too many comfy pieces of clothing!
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Thanks Miranda - I’ll have to see if they have a counseling/hypnosis program here. If anything it sounds like it would be a way to cope with everything. I’m just hoping it won’t tire me out too much. Like chemo, it must effect people in different ways. BTW, I had my back X-rayed two weeks ago, but they didn’t see anything wrong with my spine. I think it’s mostly muscle pain, or inflammation. I’ve tried ice packs, heat, and the drugs seem to just mask the pain. It’s really getting so old as I have had this problem since Dec. 8th. However, I’ll live.
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blair2, the first time I was diagnosed it was like 3% because I had a mastectomy. But because it was skin-sparing they didn’t get everything and as the standard of care was mastectomy and no radiation, it came back in 2014. Then my oncotype was 21 and my recurrence risk with chemo and radiation was about 19%. Crazy right? Every three years. Now they think I had mets from the beginning but they didn’t but check lymph nodes back then for DCIS. Good news is, they do now
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Hi Littlebee and all. I finished radiation December 2016 and just popped over from the December RADS group to offer you some encouragement. I only had 15 treatments thank goodness, and had just minor itching. But even my sisters who had six weeks or more found it easier than they had feared. Most of us used calendula cream, began using it daily even before radiation treatments started, then used Aquaphor at night when the redness kicked in.
Everyone gets different advice it seems, but here's the Johns Hopkins instruction sheet in case it is helpful. Good luck and best wishes.
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Georgia1....thank you for the info! My nurses told me to use Aquaphor, but did tell met hat it was very greasy. I have my first treatment tomorrow morning, and will have a total of 20 (16 regular with 4 boosts).
I noticed you started Tamoxifen...how are you handling that? I will start once my radiation therapy is complete.
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Hi LittleBee. I am doing fine on Tamoxifen, which is what my MO recommended since I have osteoporosis. I'm 59 and post-menopausal, so perhaps that's part of the reason why my side effects are so mild...had my hot flashes years ago! I wish you all the best finishing up RADS.
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I had my mapping done 2/14, tomorrow I go i for my simulation. Suppose to start my first treatment on Wednesday. I will be getting 26 treatment and 7 boosts to my left breast. I am feeling anxious and have no clue why. Everyone keeps saying radiation is a breeze if you didn’t have chemo first
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Tkane, every darn step in this process is anxiety-provoking so your feelings are totally normal. I found the first session was the hardest, then I got into a routine and developed a good relationship with my techs. Do you usually feel better if you are prepared? I'd suggest wearing a loose top, since you'll need to undress from the waist up; and packing a protein bar or drink to help keep your protein levels up; a book or magazine for the waiting room; and some makeup remover pads to take your deodorant off beforehand. Best of luck and I know you'll be fine.
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Txgatata - it sounds like they mis-diagnosed you wrong, or missed something that made it come back from a DCIS situation. I hate how cancer can be so sneaky. Your 2014 diagnosis is very similar to mine. Same drugs too, except I missed my last treatment due to side effects, age, and heart condition. My recurrence rate was 18% without chemo, now it’s probably down to 13%. No body knows for sure, but I was told I will probably die of heart disease before cancer. Well, we’ll see. I hope you will be able to beat your metastatic lung condition and not suffer too much pain!
Georgia1 - thanks for the info. I bought a jar of Aquaphor- and it is greasy just like Vaseline, but maybe not as thick. I also got some aloe gel in case my skin gets on fire.
Girls - I’m with you all in havingsome anxiety (as if that ever goes away). I’m not looking forward to next week - it’s going to be hard to do this on a daily basis. That’s enough to make us all tired! I have to travel to the north side of town - not a hop or skip either.
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I've had two treatments (of 30), very uneventful. Afterward I've experienced something I would not call fatigue, but rather a sort of odd, mildly "drugged" feeling, not entirely unpleasant. I am lucky in that I live very near to the hospital, so the commute is short. I can't say I like anything about it -- marching through treatment makes you feel like your life is out of your control, and it is -- but I can bear it till it's done.
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Is anyone else getting the higher dose, accelerated treatments (a.k.a. hypo-fractionated/Canadian schedule)? Yesterday was my 3rd whole breast treatment out of 16, then I'll have 5 boosts. I'm using the Calendula lotion they recommended faithfully, and don't have any redness, but my breast is already inflamed and tender and my nipple is sore to the touch. I wasn't expecting this until at least a week from now. Has anybody else experienced this so quickly?
**Just saw a nurse after my 4th treatment, and he (and the techs) said inflammation isn't from radiation. Seems pretty coincidental to me, all my surgical swelling was gone.
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Hello fellow gals,
Tomorrow is day 1 of my rad treatments: 5 weeks + 3 days. I do have a couple of questions. Have any of you done chemo, then lumpectomy, then radiation? I hope "they're" wrong (it's worse if you have chemo then rads, rather than just rads). My last chemo was in mid-November but I continue to receive herceptin infusions once every three weeks.
Have any of you found out if there's anything that might help before I go in tomorrow? Something to avoid? They did tell me the basics (stop taking antioxidant supplements, no deodorant, creams, gels, etc).
I'm asking here because I already asked them and they said, "Just bring yourself" (at least they tried to not make it sound rude or impatient).
This place is like a home to me, in a way. I usually get better answers here than elsewhere. Thank you.
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Hey Ladies, I'm 6 rads down with 14 to go and so far so good. No skin irritation yet but I am TIRED!!! I had about a month in-between my last chemo and starting radiation and I never really felt like I got my energy completely back before starting radiation. I mentioned it to my RO today and she said, "Exercise!" LOL! So, I've got to get back to walking. :-)
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I wonder why some of us need so few rads with similar diagnosis. I have to have 35 total. 25 external, and 10 Accuboost treatments. I think I will be glowing in the dark when I get through!
Tkane10 - you’re close at 33. Are your 7 boosts considered as Accuboost like me? I’m still trying to figure out all this
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Blair-it’s a puzzle to me, too. All I know is that I’m doing the Canadian method? But, before the mapping I was told they might do the other method which would be 6 weeks. How are you feelibg
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Sweetp6217.....I had lumpectomy, then chemo, now rads. I am not sure why they say its worse if you have chemo then rads? I think (so far) rads are a walk in the park compared to chemo. I am in and out in less than 15 minutes for each treatment. And pretty much "just bring yourself" is correct. I am having 16 + 4 boosts, so a total of 4 weeks. Hoping it goes by fast! Good luck to you!
Blair....I've also wondered why everyone's treatment is all so different even with similar diagnosis. I am sure there are specific reasons, but not sure what they are.
LizabethM....I agree with you on the fatigue! I have a hard time staying awake at work....it was never this bad with chemo! I try and walk 30 minutes during lunch and that seems to help for a while, but by the end of the day I am whooped! Glad when this will be over!
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LizabethM Sorry bout your fatigue. That is what I'm talking about. I'm still suffering from some chemo brain and fatigue to some degree even though I'm only on herceptin every 3 weeks. For me, fatigue = lapses in memory for the less practiced tasks at work. Thank God my supers are patient in brief re-training moments that I need. What I don't need is more fatigue. Having said that I just stupidly consumed some danish.
Two hours til this train starts...
P.S. One of my supes thinks irritability is a distinct possibility with radiation. Any of you heard of that? (My thought, see above: fatigue).
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Lizabeth - I don’t even know what the Canadian method is or the difference. Maybe this site has something about it. (?) I’m still suffering back pain 6 weeks post chemo and it just isn’t going away. It doesn’t stab me in pain like it had, but it’s still there enough that I have to take an Advil or some NSAID to calm it down. It’s so old and frustrating to put up with. It also adds to my fatigue. Other than that I still have a pesky cough.
Just don’t want the flu!
Littlebee - I had the same order of treatments. I think radsare harder because we are already tired from chemo. So fatigue gets double whammied.
Sweetp - I’m so impressed with people who can work and go through chemotherapy at the same time. I would not be able to do it. My treatment was mild and shortened - and it still made me so sick. Having my back messed up from it would have really made it hard to work all day.
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