Thinking of MomAllTheTime and Dani

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  • Southernsurvivor
    Southernsurvivor Member Posts: 632
    edited February 2018

    Yes, Z, Dani and MomATT are never far from my mind or heart. Praying Dani is feeling stronger each day!

    ❤️ Southern

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    Dani is going through a rough patch. The bleeding is still present, sometimes more than other times. Today's tx was almost held back because all her #s are wacko. So far her platelets didn't rebound back much, I didn't see the BT yet, prob tomorrow, but e/t is low. She's been pretty much not doing any activities to due lack of energy and pain. A lot of pain in the bones. She could not even drive her DD to the doc because her arms are so weak she did not think she could handle the wheel.

    So re: pain meds. I'll get to the bones thread also, but she cannot take the Anti inflammatory because there is concern for thinning the blood and she can't afford that with that condition. Tylenol doesn't do a thing for her. And the other stuff with codeine or stronger, she doesn't want to take, first because she says she has to be aware and make sure she goes to the bathroom in the middle of the night to make sure the little clots come out, and during the day she wants to be able to be available when the kids come home and do stuff in the house. I don't know. I don't know what to say, she has constant pain, they will finally do a MRI of the shoulder and the spine to see what's pressing where. I know for a fact that RO didn't do all she said she was gonna do. But in the meantime, she is pretty much just plopping down on the couch.

    He took off the new added tx to the cocktail, no more Leukeran till they see the BT getting better. He wants to see if that made her have less energy. I think so. I called him in the AM and told him how weak she is. I can't imagine how bad she is feeling.


    Dani is really angry that she had to cut off part of the tx. We'll see what the BT shows.

    You guys are my rock thank you so much for being there.

  • Iwrite
    Iwrite Member Posts: 870
    edited February 2018

    MomAtt- Thinking of you and Dani and sending prayers for pain relief and for treatment effectiveness!

    (((Hugs))

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited February 2018

    Praying for you guys every day. It's wack a mole with too many moles.

    >Z<

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    Lwrite so nice to hear from you. Thanks

    Zar you said it.

    She should be getting scan at the beginning of the week and take it from there. The numbers ughhh. She is in bed alllllll day. She shifts here the pain goes to one place then she shifts again it moves again. The kids think she has some kind of virus, they have a lot of experience with it so they commiserate with her, they judge and critique together all the shows...that's the new pastime.

    I'll post when I know something. I did not wanna ask on Robin's thread, but she also has a lot of bone pain i would love to know what she is on, if it's being managed.

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited February 2018

    Connie's sister's moniker on inspire is Kristalelizaveta. If you follow that link there is contact info that might be current. I have no doubt she knows and can answer your questions. Robin is silent and probably feeling much like Dani... in need of rest and quiet and family time. I am glad Dani is getting what she needs as far as rest goes. Hope the diagnostics next week show things are getting under control.

    >Z<

  • MJHJAN1014
    MJHJAN1014 Member Posts: 708
    edited February 2018

    Mom-I am still here in yours and Danis' corner. I think of you two lots and am always in admiration of your strength and perseverance.

    Best, MJH

  • KDs-Husband
    KDs-Husband Member Posts: 107
    edited February 2018

    Lying in bed praying for Dani, Mom, the family and Dani’s treatment team.

    Continued prayers for all the BCO ladies and their caregivers.

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    Louis

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    So i do have updates, but not soo good. She was doing the MRI's and she had 6 mins left and the radiologist said forget it forget it, you are in too much pain. She was pushing herself, (imagine she tells me later she was picturing me telling her just finish so we get these images, poor soul), he got her out real fast and changed to a CT which is not the best ode for the Brain/Orbits but it was a bit more tolerable and quicker. She also had a CT of the upper extremities.

    The report is many pages. Extensive bone mets.All thoracic/ ribs don't ask. Mets at the calvarium NOT in the brain or so they see, but everywhere else. in the forehead next to the eyes all those bones...She has large nodes in the axila, and a lesion popping out from her ribs. And here is the punch line, bilateral pleural effusion. Hmm what now? He's not dealing with it for now. She was gonna have scheduled a PET/CT also but it's totally out of reach till she gets this pain under control. She couldn't possibly lay there for so long.

    So doc says today on the phone, this tx is not working. We were in a conference call, D said right away i knew it, what else is new. He said he's got more stuff, not to worry, he has to ponder. He is doing his homework i know. In the meantime she is in gr8 pain. He is reviewing the Rads that were done before and will confer with radiologist. Her bloods are still low, so his big concern is the bone marrow.

    Today the kids have some kind of PTA and they are being let out earlier from school to go home with the Moms. Well not this Mom. She did not go. She said she could not afford to cause an accident with her arms not being strong. It takes her about 10 mins to button down a jacket. Now she told the kids she did something to her shoulder and she needs to take it easy. They don't know what to do for her first. So my other DD took off today from work, and is gonna do some projects with them to distract them.

    I am kinda numb, i know for a fact he didn't even tell us all that he saw in those reports, he did not know that i had a copy and i did not tell him. He seems to wanna believe and make her feel that there are options, so totally against my character, I'm just gonna ride along. We'll see what new concoction he has. Abra Cadabra.

    KD's Husband thank you for your prayers,

    MJH i do pray for strength and clarity to KNOW what to do.

    Zar thanks for the link, will look into it.

    Take care everyone



  • Micmel
    Micmel Member Posts: 9,450
    edited February 2018

    Louis, omg so wonderful to see you here. I have often prayed for you and your family. I am hoping you have some peace and strength when you needed it. Sending warm thoughts to you! ~M~

    Keeping Dani and Mom close in thoughts always as well! Always

  • AnimalCrackers
    AnimalCrackers Member Posts: 701
    edited February 2018

    Oh MomAll - Dani is so incredible.  She has suffered through so much it's just not fair.  You are an amazing mom too!  I wish I had the answers.  No one should have to suffer so.  Sending love and support and ((HUGS)) to you both.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2018

    Mom - I have no words today. Hugs, just hugs. And more hugs.

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    Thank you ladies, I know you understand. Bluebird I thought of you right away when i saw about the pleural effusion. i just hope he doesn't mess up by not acting on it. It may be making her feel the pain in her back? I wonder. She has so much pain on her back, but the ribs are messed up too, so it could be it's traveling from the front to the back, and then the whole thoracic, and she has compressions on T2, C6 so...

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited February 2018

    Mom - I love your doctor. I would trust him as well. Beyond that total crapitoa. 10 minutes to button a coat is not going to work for a powerhouse like Dani.

    >Z<

  • Iwrite
    Iwrite Member Posts: 870
    edited February 2018

    Good grief- can someone Puh-leez help her with the pain!!! I so much wish we could all send her some psychic mojo to ease suffering plus give the doctors new and brilliant ideas for her. Mom- This is heartbreaking. Would love to give you an in person hug right now...

  • MJHJAN1014
    MJHJAN1014 Member Posts: 708
    edited February 2018

    Mom-it must be beyond heartbreaking to see Dani in such pain. I hate that she suffers so. Visioning her in a soft healing light and sending love and hugs. MJH

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited February 2018

    Thinking of Dani and hoping for an angel treatment and a stop to the madness

  • kaayborg
    kaayborg Member Posts: 613
    edited February 2018

    Mom, checking in and sending love, hugs, and prayers. A place of pain...no words quite capture all that it does to you physically, mentally, emotionally. I do hope Dani finds comfort and answers soon.

  • GracieM2007
    GracieM2007 Member Posts: 1,564
    edited February 2018

    Momall, have been reading, but wanted to chime in and say you and Dani remain in my prayers! Hoping for some healing for her and lessened pain

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited February 2018

    Mom - sending hugs and peace and whatever it takes to make it through the weekend.

    >Z<

  • leftfootforward
    leftfootforward Member Posts: 1,726
    edited February 2018

    Mom- as always you and Danibare in my thoughts. I truly hope they find a way to ease her pain. Lots of lov

  • Lynnwood1960
    Lynnwood1960 Member Posts: 1,284
    edited February 2018

    Always thinking of you and Dani Mom. The strength the two of you have is incredible

  • Southernsurvivor
    Southernsurvivor Member Posts: 632
    edited February 2018

    Mom and Dani - thinking of y’all this morning and I continue to be “wowed” by your fierce strength that both of you possess. You are loved by us all and we want so much for Dani to take a turn for the better right now. Thanks for keeping us updated in your struggle - we care.

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    Yes you all do care. Beyond words can express, thanks everyone, i read your sweet meaningful best wishes.

    Dani figured out it takes at least 2 hrs for the pain meds to even make a dent, so she kinda figured a schedule. She lost weight, and she is eating, that's not good. She is involved in the every day life, she's pretty much homebound by choice, just sitting by the fire and taking it easy, but she doesn't want to be seen, she says she looks greenish and she thinks she looks horrible. Well she looks extremely thin, but she is embarrassed even in seeing us - it's crazy but it's the truth. So we are not really "seeing her" it's always on her terms. The problem is that we understand. She did send me a selfie of what she figured out she could do with the wig. It's the first time she did not fix it, but sent it out to the salon, she literally cannot make much use of her arms.

    She is trying to push us away a bit, my DD's and I see that, but they still whatsapp all day long. My SIL told me she told him, she was seeing if she withdraws from me, i'll give up. And she told him it just doesn't happen. She can't understand. He told her, what did you think, these ppl that love you so are just gonna go away? Well we get it, so it's not gonna happen. She thinks that if we don't see her or talk to her, she could make things easier for us, we'll get used to not being around her. Well we think more of her if we don't see or hear from her, i told her that. This is now, she changes her mind all the time, so... Who feels like that? It's hard on the very close people, but we always go by what she wants.

    Doc still didn't come up with a plan, and re: radiation, they are hesitating because they already radiated those areas, so now what?? They are thinking about it.

    A new thing happened, she has a red blotch under her eye, on top of the cheek bone, WTH?? it looks like someone punched her. But what's going on? We don't know as of yet. Did anyone hear of this before? What could be the relation to what's going on with her?

    Love and tonz of hugs





  • Micmel
    Micmel Member Posts: 9,450
    edited February 2018

    sometimes there are just no words. I feel so broken hearted for you and your family going through this. She feels like a burden in her mind. She’s trying to prepare you for what she thinks will be better for you. Such precious love. Obviously you’re not going any where and this too shall hopefully pass. I am sending every ounce of strength I have to you and Dani and your family. You all so much deserve the answers and a good turn around. Always in my thoughts. Holding your hand. Much love ~M~. Sounds like platelets are very low If she’s bruised so easily with no explanation. Is she receiving iron supplements as well? They better get on the ball. Like NOW!

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited February 2018

    Mom - I can relate to Dany, although I may get there a different way. My Dad had been living with us and I sent him packing a few months after diagnosis. My brother wants to visit but I don't want them to come and so I put it off and put it off. I have an easier time relating to the people on this thread than my family right now. I have an issue with being weak in the presence of my family. I don't think it's the same as Dani because my family has a history of punching me when I am down. But still a strong woman is not going to want to be seen as weak and it's not possible to hide what is going on with her from you. You are a kind of mirror and she doesn't want to see what is in the mirror. If I get to the point where I can't hide the fact I am sick, crawling under a rock is my plan.

    Strength to you as you deal with her bundle of emotions. I doubt she really knows how she feels or why she does what she does at some level. I know this will be terribly hard and confusing for me.

    >Z<

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited February 2018

    MomATT and Dani, there is so much love here for you both. Praying your wise onc will lead you all through this very stressful time. Sounds like he is being extremely thoughtful in each step. I know Dani isn't on BCO, but I hope you can convey to her how many times we've seen mbc sisters rise like a Phoenix from extremely difficult situations. There have been so many examples shared here that I personally hold onto, and I hope you and Dani are too. Deanna

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2018

    You guys bring tear to my eyes. Zar it's exactly what you mentioned. I knew you ladies would understand. She just called the moment she got off the phone with doc, she is getting Diflucan for sores again, and she is in touch with the girls about bags and shoes and nonsense, but no talking about the way she feels. The mirror analogy i totally agree, as much as i try to be cool, it's a game we both play, she knows me well and she knows it's me trying to be strong for her. I never felt a victim being a woman, and i think my hubby and i instilled that in the girls, he likes and only knows through us strong women, my son married a strong woman, by strong i don't mean we don't cry, oh we cry if a squirrel is ran over, but strong i mean we always go to plan B plan C, you just do it. Something like you Z and all the wonderful true friends here.

    And yes, as a strong woman this is the worst case scenario. Well, she is under a rock now. And i believe she will soar, she will groom her feathers and off she goes, maybe a bit scathed but just like a phoenix off she goes. Deanna always really nice to hear from you. You literally were one of the first ones to welcome me, and gave me tonz of advice. Thank you.

    I jumped with my new story, and i did not call you by your individual names to thank you, Micmei thank you for your warm words. Southernsurvivor,Lynwood1960,Leftfootforward , GracieM2007, JFL, MJH, such beautiful words, Kaayborg crossing fingers for the new tx to work, Lwrite as you so poignant put it - good grief.


  • Cure-ious
    Cure-ious Member Posts: 2,626
    edited February 2018

    MomATT, its absolutely heartbreaking to hear how Dani is trying to cope. No good words nor any help to offer. But I think I can understand it, she alone has to face these waves of ever more horrible news, and it requires ever bit of strength and focus to figure out how to process it for yourself, let alone figure out how to try to make it OK for others who love you.

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited February 2018

    I get it, dear Dani, I get it.

    The thing I hate most about this whole wretched business is knowing that I am a source of pain and sorrow for the people I love most dearly, when all I ever wanted to be to them is a fount of happiness and comfort and stability. I would go to crazy lengths to distance them from grief and pain over my sickness.

    I am driven to stay alive for my two small grandchildren, and I invest my best days into forming deep bonds with them-- all the while wringing my hands over whether it might be better for them if I were not so dear to their small hearts. When I hit particularly bad patches with my health or even just go through a wave of scanxiety, I have this sort of desperate primal response where everything in me wants to fade out of their lives now so they won't be so gut-punched by my decline later.

    So yeah, I get it.

    But Mom... you hang in there. She really wants you close by, in her heart of hearts. I have a dear, close cousin who I treasure because she has always spoken clarity and truth into my life like nobody else ever could. A while back she implored me to let go of protecting my family so much from any real awareness of my daily challenges and suffering over BC. Her father died from cancer 13 years ago, and she said the only way she and the others in his immediate family could even begin to be reconciled to his death was because they knew how he had suffered, how hard cancer had been for him. I've had to think about that. I'm still working on it. Maybe Dani needs to know that it's easier for you to see it all than to not see and be left wondering. Surely she knows that if it was one of her children, she would be stuck to them like a fierce, sticky velcro mama. Just like you.

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