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  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    All of the women here will tell you that the wait is the most brutal part... especially in the beginning.

    Please consider talking to your doctors about getting a prescription for anti-anxiety meds if the results are positive, ladies. The first part of all of this is a whirlwind, with all kinds of information, waiting, testing, waiting, etc.

    The women here, and that includes those not keen on taking pills, said anti-anxiety meds were a god-send in helping them stay a certain degree of calm.

  • Axolotl
    Axolotl Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2018

    Hi ColleenS80,

    I'm the same age as you and went through a very similar experience in finding out that the thickness I'd noticed in my breast for more than two years was cancerous. In the last month, I had my biopsy and mastectomy soon after. As soon as I knew the biopsy results, I was like, please cut my breast off as soon as possible, I don't want these cancerous cells in my body!

    I had my first mammogram ever just before the biopsy and it was painful for me.

    It is so awful to wait and frustrating that the information comes in pieces. Now I'm waiting on the results of the OncotypeDX.

    What helped me is holding on to whatever positive information I was hearing or my mind quickly went to dark places. This is so frightening and we don't expect to go through this in our 30s.

    So far your nodes seem clear. That's great! Try not to worry about being at an advanced stage just yet.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    Thank you again ladies. I’m so thankful for the support.

    Axolotl, wow how similar! Did you have positive lymph nodes? I’d much rather deal with more invasive surgeries if it means less chance of reoccurrence. The idea terrifies me. You are in my thoughts and prayers

  • Axolotl
    Axolotl Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2018

    Hi ColleenS80, no, I didn't have any positive nodes which was a huge relief. I didn't know that definitively until after surgery. I'm a bit perplexed by my final pathology report actually - it puts me at stage IIb because the pathologist estimated the IDC to be 5-7cm - which is really big to have no positive nodes. The 5-7cm isn't a solid mass though, but scattered points of IDC. I had a mastectomy because of the extent of the DCIS/IDC, and the alternative would have been chemo upfront to shrink everything, followed by a lumpectomy. I'm hoping to avoid chemo but that will depend on the results of the Oncotype for me.

    My understanding is that lumpectomy followed by radiation is just as effective as a mastectomy, if the size of the tumor is small enough for a lumpectomy. The rate of recurrence is the same with both.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    Thanksfor the info. So glad your nodes were clear!

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    Colleen, thinking of you today as you go in for your biopsy....Will be in the "virtual waiting room" here to hear how things went.

    HUGS!!!!

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    Thank you so much marie. I need it. They ended up biopsying my lymph node because today they said it DID look suspicious. He said if it’s going to be a tumor they like to see them looking self-contained-mine has tentacles like it was reaching out. And now a suspicious lymph node after all.

  • Snickersmom
    Snickersmom Member Posts: 926
    edited January 2018

    Colleen and Raisin - it's always the waiting that's the absolute worst. Easy to tell you to try to concentrate on other things but we all know how difficult that is. Just don't listen to Drs. Bing and Google. Everyone is different and they are very generic. The only thing that got me through those first few weeks was good old Xanax. I took that for about two months and even though I was scared $$#@less, it did take the edge off the anxiety and the panic attacks. So if you need something, don't hesitate to ask for it. After my surgery, they switched me to Zoloft because it's less habit-forming than Xanax. I said at 70, who cares? Whatever it takes is fine with me.

    Hang in there, both of you, and breathe. We are here for you. Sending lots of warm hugs and prayers

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    Ah, DAMN Colleen. Last thing you needed to hear while undergoing biopsy are things like that. Well keep busy if you can and take Snickersmom's advice. Stay off Google and Bing. And yes, talk to your PCP about some anti-anxiety meds..

    While I was waiting for my results, I cleaned cupboards and closets and the nooks and cranny's of my condo

    Any questions you have at the moment that we can answer or guide you to?

  • jillybean63
    jillybean63 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2018

    Mine was just under 1cm. Dense breast tissue as well. I asked my radiologist during the biposy in 10/2016 "How scary is it...?" He responded "Pretty darn scary." Then, I drove home in tears from what was supposed to be a routine yearly mammogram. I get what you are feeling. It's just soooooo shocking. The waiting is the very worst! Once you get those results, and I do hope your news is benign, the biology of the tumor will indicate what type of treatment is prescribed. I was and still am so surprised that there are so many different types of BC. Mine is triple positive. You can see from my stats what my treatment was, even for a small stage 1 cancer. I had a lumpectomy, and then THREW EVERYTHING at it. Everyone is different. Every cancer is different.

    You will get plenty of good advice here. I lurked for the entire time of my treatment and am just now starting to post. Hang in there, girl. Lots of support here.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    Thanks ladies. I'm in a shock all over again just like I was last Friday. I cried through the whole biopsy and felt like such an idiot—I thought I'd be strong but the lymph node crap just threw me. Still praying even if the tumor is malignant that the lymph node is benign. He said he just wanted to make sure and didn't seem as sure about that as he did about the tumor....so still trying to stay hopeful.

    Jilly-what made the decision for u to have chemo? I'm just wondering what types of treatment might've presented to me.

    Oh, he also said I may get my results late tomorrow-otherwise Monday or Tuesday. He sounded like he was going to try to rush itthrough, which actually made me feel worse because it made me feel like he thought it was bad and need to find out quickly.

  • waytooanxiousmommy
    waytooanxiousmommy Member Posts: 144
    edited January 2018

    I was where you are now two months ago and my heart goes out to you. Its crazy making when you are not getting the right info. What helped me was getting second opinions because I found a hospital where they moved fast and disclosed everything to me and I felt taken care of. My anxiety has gone down so much now that I feel that I am being taken care of by people who know what they are doing even though I have a grade 3 tumor and its triple negative.

    I hope you don't have cancer and even if you do with the small size and no lymph nodes you should be very much treatable.

    Hugs

  • gigibee
    gigibee Member Posts: 192
    edited January 2018

    ColleenS80, hoping for good results for you. I had a 1.5cm tumor detected my mammogram, it was not palpable to me or the breast surgeon I ended up going to, trust me the waiting is the hardest part, I had to wait a month for my surgery because I wanted this Dr to do it, once you have all your results, node involvement, staging and a better idea of your plan you will be in a better place. Also things can change from biopsy to surgery in the way of pathology. I was Her2+ via biopsy testing method and ended up being negative when the tumor was re-tested after surgery. so you will have some more answers soon and still some more waiting esp if you get 2nd opinions, which I would highly recc. My surgeon said Breast cancer is an emotional emergency but not a medical emergency and that quote got me through some very long weeks.

  • Axolotl
    Axolotl Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2018

    I'm so sorry to hear about your nodes!

    I also had unexpected changes along the way. My biopsy pathology report said that the IDC was 2mm. My final report after mastectomy said 5-7cm - a huge difference! Additionally, my biopsy pathology said Grade 1 and my final pathology said Grade 3. My heart fell out of my chest when I saw the final report. (Meanwhile, my BS was saying the report looked good and she thought it would be worse!)

    During my biopsy the doctor kept saying, "You'll be OK," until I asked, "What does that mean?" He didn't have an answer.

    I keep telling myself: breast cancer is not a death sentence. Many women have faced worse than me and are longterm survivors. I am still alive. I will do what I can to fight this, whether that means chemo, changing my lifestyle, or seeking out help to deal with my anxiety.

    Wishing you the best!!!

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    ok, seriously wtf...I just noticed I am breaking out in a rash...all over my back and belly, and some down my arms. Could this have anything to do with the biopsy?? Ughhhhhh!!

  • jo6359
    jo6359 Member Posts: 2,279
    edited January 2018

    Hang in there. It is a very scary time while you are waiting for news. My 1.2 cm tumor was found through US. Biopsy positive for cancer. Two weeks later, I had a breast MRI and found another 1.2 cm tumor in the same breast. I was very thankful for the MRI because that cancer didnt show on my original US. After the MRI I had to have another ultrasound and biopsy. It was difficult to locate on the US but they were determined. I also had a PET/CT scan which showed only the 2 cancers abd no spread. Now I'm waiting for a mastectomy and node dissection. At this point I'm more worried about the node dissection and those results then I am about the bilateral mastectomy. Waiting is very scary. This forum is great for support and to obtain information.


  • jo6359
    jo6359 Member Posts: 2,279
    edited January 2018

    I used Xanax for a week after my DX. It really did help. Your rash could be an allergic reaction or good old fashioned stress reaction. You have been through hell. I was diagnosed Dec. 8. Even though its only been a month, Im calmer and am so grateful for this forum.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    axolotl I love that phrase, will have to tuck it away.

    I have a good friend that’s a PA and he thinks my rash may be a reaction to the Tylenol he caps they told me to take yesterday. I never take Tylenol. So, gonna take some Benadryl and hopefully it’ll go away. If not I’ll check with the doctor.

    That’s about three times now I’ve heard of someone getting an MRI and finding more cancer. I’m definitely going to ask for one. Even if I have to pay out of pocket it’s worth the peace of mind.

    Can’t keep thanking you enough ladies. You’re my lifeline right now! Praying for the (unlikely) chance of results today

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    Colleen, it is pretty common for an MRI or even a C-Scan to be done if there is thoughts of node involvement to be done prior to treatment.

    How is the rash now. Is the Benadryl working? Something to note to your dr's going forward about the rash.

    Hoping you get results today, too. But, like you, won't be surprised if you won't.

    Do you have a good support system around you?

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited January 2018

    Hoping you have results soon. Your surgeon may be the one to order MRI. If you choose lumpectomy, they will do MRI first. If you choose bilateral mastectomy, they may not do MRI. Partly, it depends on pathology. Lots of things to consider. Hoping when the radiologist calls, you can get on the path to what's next

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Histological grade one of three. My doctor wanted to tell me this as soon as she found out but that’s all she knows so far. The other testing like hormones and genes have not come back yet. She thinks the surgeon will recommend a mastectomy because of my age. The radiologist that did the biopsy yesterday did not get any lymph nodes. So we still don’t know if it’s in my lymph nodes. I should have some appointments beginning next week. I feel strangely relieved. Now I know what it is, so I feel like I am ready to kick its ass

  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2018

    Grade 1......yes, that is good news.

    Kicks some serious ass, sista. You got this. ;-)

  • chronicpain
    chronicpain Member Posts: 385
    edited January 2018

    Colleen, Grade 1, if confirmed at surgical path, is a very good cancer to have, I was told and read about, if you are going to have BC at all! All things considered, this is good news, though of course no CA at all would be better.

    Hopefully the node will be negative but even if positive, if grade 1, prognosis should still be very good. You may ask if they going to do a chest xray and bone scan and liver enzymes too, to make sure there is no spread, and the MRI to look at the other breast and this one too, even if you plan a mastectomy.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited January 2018

    Yes, I was very glad to hear grade one and am hoping it remains so after surgery!

    I suppose I will now go on to post further questions in the “diagnosed” forum. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your help and support here. I do hope to hear from you again in the other forumthe next time I post!!


  • jo6359
    jo6359 Member Posts: 2,279
    edited January 2018

    it must be such a relief to know and begin a plan of action. If one must have cancer then grade 1 is good news. Looking forward to reading stories of your journey in the diagnosed section

  • Icietla
    Icietla Member Posts: 1,265
    edited January 2018

    >>The rate of recurrence is the same with both.<<

    For the universe of all early stage breast cancers -- of whatever types, and whatever ages the patients, overall survival (survival -- with or without apparent breast cancer -- to certain time interval/s) is about the same.

    Here is something else about the universe of breast cancer patients in those big-number statistics.

    https://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/GettingOlder.html

    Local recurrence risk is lower with mastectomy.

    "There is a somewhat higher risk of developing a local recurrence of the cancer after lumpectomy than after mastectomy. However, local recurrence can be treated successfully with mastectomy." Source: http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/surgery/mast_vs_lump

    This might matter to you.

    http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/best-surgery-for-early-stage-may-depend-on-age

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    Sep 1, 2017 01:20PM - edited Sep 1, 2017 01:31PM by Icietla

    Another ILC-er here. By my calculations, the little-to-no-statistical-difference-in-outcomes so often used to argue against our mastectomy and CPM choices is roughly 93% weighted by IDC and DCIS cases. Somebody tell me if I am wrong about that, huh?

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    "Bilateral involvement is reported to be 20–29% in lobular carcinoma [10, 12, 16, 41, 42]. In our dataset the incidence of contralateral breast cancer in women with ILC was nearly double that in women with IDC." Source: https://breast-cancer-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/bcr767

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