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  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    Moth, the one thing you might want to do once surgery date is decided and then after when treatment plan is made, to find threads that are relevant. For instance when I did chemo starting in Sept. 2012, we had a thread Chemotherapy, September 2012 and guess what? That morphed into a Facebook private group, 15 of us met up a year later in Las Vegas with a huge rented house with pool and 30 of us are still friends. I see a few of them when possible. We remain a big support group.

    Wrenn came to at least one of three lower mainland potlucks I hosted annually until last year and now we have moved.

    Other options are local support groups or friends who have also had BC.

    Keep us posted.

    Marian

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    Hi, my lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy surgery is tomorrow; was supposed to be Jan 3 but they called late last week to say they could move me up & I said yes.

    I found the December surgery thread and the lumpectomy lounge.

    I have a couple online friends from other communities who are bc survivors and I've already been in contact with them so that's been nice.

    Went to see Thor last night with my family; Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston joking and smashing things does take one's mind off things :)




  • runor
    runor Member Posts: 1,798
    edited December 2017

    Prayers and good luck, Moth. Speedy healing!

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    Hi Runor! I keep hoping that this thread will liven up again~~it was so helpful for me. BTW, I am doing really well! How are you feeling?


  • runor
    runor Member Posts: 1,798
    edited December 2017

    Hi MarianE:

    After having a scare when a new lump popped up in my good boob, and then hearing that the bad boob still has suspicious badness lurking in it ... I kind of fell apart a bit. There are lingering physical effects from this cancer. When I look back to how life was a year ago, I am shocked at the differences. The side effects from tamoxifen, the boob that is perma-tanned from radiation. The chronic low level pain I have 24/7, due to radiation I think. The worry. The mental black cloud. The cancer that has grabbed onto my head like an octopus and obscures everything. I wanted all that to be over and when I heard that the architectural distortion in my bad boob was still there, well, I didn't handle it well.

    I have since spoken to my radiation oncologist who put everything into perspective. She has requested a 2nd opinion on the continuing architectural distortion to see if we wait and see or go digging around for another biopsy. But I do feel more settled after talking to her.

    2nd opinion should be reported to me in the next few days. Fingers crossed.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    runor, the last thing you needed was uncertainty and glad for the second opinion. So much happens in the first year that it is at times overwhelming but there is some perception that once treatment is complete, things will return to normal or at least settle. I think this is often misguided and my worst times were over a year after treatment ended. I was so afraid and every little thing made me think the worst. I was also depressed maybe because of same. You have been through so much and hope good news comes soon.

    Keep us posted.

    Marian

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    hello west coast chums! I had the lumpectomy on the 12th and everything went well. At one point I was already admitted and then heard the OR got filled up with an emergency and one nurse came to say they weren't sure if I was just delayed or cancelled, and that was a bit unnerving.

    but then another nurse came to whisper - they won't cancel you. They know why you're here, they're going to do you. And they did!

    I was zonked all day yesterday, got dressed in the morning and sat in the living room, sussing out how I felt and hoping to make it to the Hillary book signing but the room was spinning and all I wanted to do was sleep, so my adult kids went alone and dh & I stayed home. I'm feeling much less stoned today. My pain is manageable with just otc meds and I've been outside in the garden for little walks with my dog.

    follow up with surgeon isn't until Jan 9 though so a long'ish wait ahead now.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2017

    Moth I'm glad things are going well for you. Hopefully it continues for you. You do seem to have a handle on things. Do keep checking i. The women here are very helpful.

    Marian I am sorry to hear you have had a recurrence and am not surprised you are handling it all well. Glad to hear you found a home you like in Victoria. I visited there a few times when my daughter was at UVic. It is lovely. Take care.

    Best wishes to all the BCers. xo

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    So, about the BC Cancer Agency services - can I say so far I'm not really impressed?

    The website looked good, I read through all the materials, downloaded intake forms etc. Whoever wrote their web content did a good job of sounding supportive and caring.

    I know my doctor referred me and I was hazy about the order in which things will happen next so I tried calling to talk to someone. And that's where the supportive and caring came more or less to an end. They say you can call just to talk if you're new but when you dial any of the numbers, you get one of those automated Press 1 for ____ recordings and none of them are applicable because they're all for appointment changes etc.

    When I finally got a live voice it was just a frazzled, mumbly-sounding, super fast talking "how can I direct your call" receptionist. When I explained what I wanted, she hemmed and hawed and finally said "I think you want 'Name'; I'll put you through" and she transferred me to someone completely wrong who had no idea what I was calling about and as far as I could tell had nothing to do with this department.

    I finally went through the whole thing again and did manage to speak to someone who is a new intake nurse and while she answered my questions, I didn't actually feel any warm fuzzies from her.

    Is that just what it's like?




  • Sadiesservant
    Sadiesservant Member Posts: 1,995
    edited December 2017

    I remember when I was first diagnosed in 2001, I struggled with the system. I didn't know what to expect and who to speak to. I think part of the problem in BC is the issue of multiple health authorities. Your surgeon, GP etc. all fall under the local HA and your oncologist is under the Provincial Health Services Authority. Unfortunately, they often don't communicate well.

    But honestly, once I was truly 'in the system' I could not have asked for a more caring and supportive team. There were little issues along the way but no system is perfect. And given the number of patients coming through the door, I think they do an amazing job. Ultimately, I developed quite a strong relationship with my physicians, particularly my RO who I saw for many years as part of a clinical trial. I will never forget when I got to the 10 year mark he asked if it would be okay to give me a hug.

    Now, unfortunately I am back in the system again but was so happy to find that I have the same MO. He is, quite frankly, fabulous. He responds incredibly quickly to my requests and takes the time to answer any and all of my questions. I think it's a bit funny, he is learning what makes me tick and zeroes in on little off the cuff remarks I make - he knows I tend to downplay things and is quick to react if he thinks there is an issue.

    At the moment you are in the worst place, in between systems. It will get better. My advice would be to ask lots of questions, particularly to find out who you should call and what the contact numbers are for different circumstances (they will provide you with a cheat sheet).

    I hope things improve and you get the medical team you need to support you.

    Pat

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2017

    I'm not crazy about BCCA but did like the free Mindfulness course. The counsellors running that were good.

    I am continuing to get support from Callanish.org. They are amazing. It is a little far for you to travel (the centre is in Kitsilano) but the people running it are amazing.

    I think it will get easier for you...or maybe we just resign ourselves to shitty situations. :-)

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    Thanks Pat & wrenn. I'm actually kind of ok right now but I was just a bit taken aback because it wasn't what I expected it would be like...

    wrenn, I saw the mindfulness course but not sure I should do it as I've been practicing mindfulness meditation on & off for years. Is it more for beginners or do you think experienced meditators should also take it?

    Callanish does sound amazing but definitely not a commute I want to do. I've bookmarked it in case I want to think about a retreat though.

    I'm just compensating for anxiety by trying to map out and overplan things. Learning to surrender to process has been a lifelong challenge lol; I expect there will be lots of opportunities for practice now. I was in counselling for quite a while before and I already know I'll go back - just not sure where as my old counsellor is herself on medical leave. We have extended health so that makes things a bit easier & I'm tempted to arrange something myself in addition to whatever the agency also offers through their center.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    Moth, not sure which center you will be at. Thinking you said Coquitlam so not sure if you go to Surrey or what? I was in Vancouver. The course Wrenn refers to is MBSR which stands for Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction and not sure any centers but Vancouver offer it. I too had done other practices but this one was right for so many of us I can't tell you. Attrition almost zero and some of us still go back for short evening refreshers. The woman who started at BCCA Vancouver just retired after 18 or so years of facilitating. Another social worker who is on mat leave should be taking it over. Jon Kabbatt-Zinn began it back in 1979 and nothing to do with cancer. One summer when I was depressed, my BCCA psychiatrist (yes, they are also there) suggested I do a one to one Mindfulness Cognitive course with a senior resident and that too was helpful.


    Earlier on I asked to see a counsellor and that did not work out personality wise thus the other referral later on. Also InspireHealth in Vancouver is now free for cancer patients. They used to charge about $500 but got a grant and fundraiser. I found it here too and just started utilizing it.

    I never talked to anyone at the agency before seeing my oncologist so that was probably about 2.5 months after diagnosis and 4 or 5 weeks after lumpectomy. My experiences once then are excellent. I am now at the agency in Victoria and again, I feel well taken care of.

    It is so early on for you that it is tough to wait and see. I have always felt the "waiting game" is the worst.

    At the top of my dx etc. on this site~~at the bottom of my posts, there is a link to my blog which I started with the help of my daughter in the fall of my diagnosis. Not sure it is at all useful but it does describe those early days when it was so overwhelming. I have just started posting again.

    Marian

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    I'm referred to the Fraser Valley one in Surrey. I'm glad because it's a pretty easy commute for me but from their website tbeir program seems leaner than what's in Vancouver. Could just be a population density issue I guess.....

    Ok thx ladies for the info & links & support.

    At this point I'm just going to practice waiting :) (& ignoring the annoying relatives & the stupid things they say.... )

  • runor
    runor Member Posts: 1,798
    edited December 2017

    Moth, there is a forum for the stupid things people say. It can be truly mind boggling at times. Check it out to discover that your family and friends are not alone in the crazy things that come out of their mouths.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited December 2017

    hey guys - my gp called to say she got my pathology report and wanted to let me know right away the margins were good & the sentinel node biopsy was negative. Love my gp because otherwise I'd have been waiting till Jan to see the surgeon to get these results but she just picks up the phone & calls.

    Still waiting on the oncotype score and rad + chemo v. rad alone recommendations.

    I'm wondering if any of you used medicinal marijuana during treatment and how that was received by your oncology teams? If we go to chemo, I'd definitely want to explore that as I'm Miss Barfy. I make myself car sick in my own car, while driving... I really want every anti nausea thing possible.

  • Sadiesservant
    Sadiesservant Member Posts: 1,995
    edited December 2017

    Ha! I haven't used Mary Jane but generally don't have too much trouble with nausea typically. They will likely give you Zofran which is their standard anti-nausea med depending on the treatment they give you. But be forewarned... it causes MAJOR constipation. I ended up with thrombosed hemorrhoids from that drug. I had six cycles of CEF and by the second cycle I learned to have an arsenal ready pre and post treatment. Laculose (not sure if this is the correct spelling but it's a god awful sickly sweet liquid that helps keep things moving) a couple of days before chemo and a couple of days after. Lots of apricots, prunes... you get the picture... and still I had to strain. White knuckle experiences let me tell you!

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    Moth, going back to where your treatment center is and the MBSR course~~it is not recommended for anyone in active treatment so it is something you might consider for later on if you would be willing to come into the Vancouver center.

    So happy you got the path report before Christmas~~having a good GP is wonderful.

    As for medical marijuana, back 5 years ago there were not so many pot shops around so I went through the referral from my MO for the Compassion Society. I wanted edibles as I had lost a fair bit of weight along with everything else. I had no problem with the referral process. Of course now it is much more accessible. This time I really am going to use it as medicinal marijuana as an adjunct to my pain meds used for nerve pain and damage. CBD's are what I am after and have found a very professional shop plus the Victoria Compassion Society. Yesterday my pain doctor at BCCA brought up CBD's. Of course it is illegal and as always the fact that as yet there are no qualitative and quantitative studies to speak of comes up. But~~my doctor is for it from what they do know. I have a 4:1 tincture to try as it seems that some THC is recommended specifically for my issues.

    I did not have the same S/E as Sadie and we all have such different reactions. Breast cancer has taught me much and the fact that each one of us is so individual stands out as one of the most important things to consider and remember as you go down this path. I did have a lot of diarrhea which is not always normal.

    Keep us posted after the NY and enjoy as best you can these holidays. The sun is out here on the island and two of our 3 kids are here for a few days.

    Merry Christmas to everyone!

    Love Marian

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2017

    Moth, Great news and great that you have a GP who knew how meaningful this would be to get the news early. It is hard to find a good GP these days. I have a nurse practitioner at the cancer agency (they are available to those without a GP).

    Marian you are such an education for me in so many ways. You are full of knowledge about so many topics and you have no idea how lucky I feel to have access to your energy for learning. Your attitude is amazing.

    I hope you and all of the women here have a peaceful holiday. My daughter is in Victoria enjoying the sunny days for Christmas and luckily we are having sunshine in Vancouver as well.

    Take care everyone. xo

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2017

    AMH51, welcome and I think there are several women out your way. Where are you receiving your chemo? I saw your dd comment and am wondering if you mean every two weeks with neupogen to keep your WBC's up? I managed to get through AC dose dense but was hospitalized just before taxol as my WBC's tanked as did my hemoglobin and I got 2 units of platelets which did the trick and no problems with Taxol really.

    Looking at your pathology it seems your that you are Stage IIIA but probably more due to the size of your tumour rather than nodes as was my case. Did you have a lumpectomy and axillary dissection or did your breast surgeon take 15 nodes because she saw something?

    There have been more posts of late which is nice to see.

    Marian

  • Ossa
    Ossa Member Posts: 919
    edited January 2018

    hi all been a long time. Welcome to the newbies. Sorry you have to be here but glad you found this site. These ladies kept me sane when I was going through treatment. Hope you are all doing well Marian your place looks amazing I bet you are enjoying that view every day. Wishing you all a healthy new year.


    I am finally having my re-reconstruction. New surgeon new procedure. I am having a lattimus flap Feb 22. Then going to Mexico with my son and his family in April. Hubby is not coming along this time as he will be starting a big project an can’t get away. The two of us are going to Norway in July for a few weeks. As we will be celebrating our 40th anniversary and my brothers 70th birthday Look forward to going

  • Fembot
    Fembot Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2018

    Hi everyone,

    This is my 1st post. I've just been DX w/ DCIS in 1 breast, just short of my 47th birthday. I'm thankful for this site and your contributions to it. So much fear and anxiety.

    I've met with my general surgeon. Meeting with plastic surgeon in a few days to talk reconstruction. I've decided on nipple-sparing BMX with immediate implant reconstruction. Hopefully that's possible.

    Thanks for being there, and I wish you all the very best.


  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited January 2018

    Hi Fembot. Welcome to the suckiest of clubs but at least we have each other.

    I'm still in a holding pattern. BS follow up on Jan 9. Finally got the referral to the cancer center for Jan 24 so I guess that will be the day I find out / decide re chemo.

  • adin
    adin Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    Hello, please has anyone experienced moving while dealing with treatments? Can you recommend me where to start and how to smoothly transfer all my appointments while we are relocating from BC to AB, Edmonton? Is there any institution to help to answer medical coverage questions. Thank you ever so much

  • Fembot
    Fembot Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2018

    Hello adin,

    I'm sorry you have to move during a stressful time. Vancouver Health Authority (VHA) has some useful links and phone numbers at this page breastreconstruction.vch.ca/information

    Also in many hospitals and cancer centers, a social worker may be available to help you help with non-medical challenges such as navigating the health care system and accessing support resources (financial assistance, home care, etc.)

    This page may be helpful too: support.cbcf.org/get-support/national-regional-resources




  • adin
    adin Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    Thank you Fembot so much.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited January 2018

    So good to see everyone helping each other on our BC/BC thread! As Ossa and Wrenn and others know, it has always been helpful for us. I hosted 3 brunches in Vancouver but missed last year due to our move to Victoria. If I can "borrow" a house from friends in Vancouver this spring I will host another~~they were so good for all of us to make contacts.

    Marian

    At the bottom of my posts, there is a link for my blog. Not promoting it at all but I find writing from the very start has been good~~I look back and see how far I have come. I almost used progressed but sometimes normal words can be poor choices

  • Fembot
    Fembot Member Posts: 86
    edited January 2018

    Hi Marianelizabeth,

    You've been through the wringer. Have you completed your treatments, or must you continue for longer?

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited January 2018

    I am a forever on treatments but no worries~~I am loving and living life

  • Vilma65
    Vilma65 Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2018

    Hi all, I just have been diagnosed with bone mets, my doctor wanted to put me on Ibrance but my extended doesn't cover it, we are going to appeal it. Does anyone had experience with it? will appreciate any input also in regards to alternative medication

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