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Chilly here in the Philly suburbs......yesterday no water....car door would not open.frozen shut.......I’m tired of winter already and it hasn’t even barely begun.......
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Morning gals... I think it was Ducky that lost weight? But actually I have too, I think.... This past month has been awful.....
My Husband has had such a rough time, having his last 2 teeth pulled, and then the PAIN just got to be too much! Took him to ER Christmas afternoon... CT scan, then so much blood drawn.... Finally confirmed a very bad infection under his lower jaw, causing that terrible swelling... A pocket or something... Ludwig's Angina... which can be VERY serious...
They wanted to keep him, fill him full of antibiotics, but he refused to stay... He just wanted to go home... I was so scared... So we stayed until midnight, getting 2 IV's of antibiotics, and went home... I had never driven my "new" car at night, much less 10 degrees out, and I could barely SEE with the fog in the car! Finally figured out the defrosters, and I just thanked God we got home!
So since Dec. 4th, NOW his mouth and infection are finally better.... Still on antibiotics for a few more days. We DID go back to Dentist for another x-ray.... infection was better, and no idea how it all started, other than the 2 teeth that were taken out ... Guess these things just happen... And you know how it is, when your Husband is so "down" with something... The pain pills really depressed him, and you don't know how to help!
But finally, yesterday, seemed like we are out of the woods!!! He has lost a lot of weight, and I even feel lighter... ALL that WORRY, and all you can do is TRY and help... Things worked out.... but I had a LOT of help from above....
My Brother called last night.... His Son Buddy passed away.... And last week at Christmas, his SIL Ben lost his fight with alcoholism and died. Such young people... trying to live their lives any old way they choose, and making everyone else miserable along the way... It still hurts their families... but no way can the tears heal those broken hearts....
And MAN, I just am plain tired of this cold weather! Even my compost barrels have frozen!
We have been feeding our Chicken neighbors cat, and giving the Chickens our scraps.... Then this Rebecca of Sunny-brook farms called yesterday, and said their friend dropped off their dog... (A little Chihuahua) in their yard, because they were going up skiing! It was 12 degrees out!!! So "Rebecca" and family were coming home last night.... She asked us to go over and put Lilli in the house... Now I love this little dog.... But we COULDN'T go over after dark.... So we went over about 4:30, turned their heat up, put food and water down for Lilli.... She was STARVED!!! Not to mention thirsty!!!! And we put her in the wire kennel!
Now I was MAD!! I didn't want to do that!!! I mean her house is a MESS...! Wood floors with old throw rugs, so who CARES if she pees somewhere maybe!!! They should have made better arrangements for their dog before they left!!!
They were in Texas for this past week! WITH their 2 little girls and new baby boy!!!
They got home after midnight... we could see their lights on... So the fish on their drain-board got fed... BY ME!... AND their dog, not to mention their cat for a week, AND their Chickens! Yes, we got about a dozen eggs, but STILL... I just feel so bad for the animals!!! I took Lilli over a little left-over hamburger and pork... and she gobbled all that up before her dry food....
They usually say "Thanks" the next time we see them.... and maybe they'll shovel our walks when we get more snow.... oh well........................... What can you say? Just that this "neighborly" stuff wears thin sometimes....
Pretty nice here right now.... already 21.... That's better than it HAS been.... And anything above 40 is great, lately! At least we can get out, and maybe walk around a couple stores buying stuff we don't need... Hah!
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Souls, like animals and plants, need air. Do our lives have enough empty space in them to nourish our spirit? Living in cities, plugged into networks of jobs, friends, and projects, we sometimes neglect our standing-and-staring needs. Blessed idleness!Blessed inattention! When we slip back into the groove, we're refreshed by our passive interlude. Let's remember the recipe and find some time to stand aside and stare. -unattributed
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Oh how great to see you Chevy. I'm so glad that it seems your DH has turned the corner and hopefully will just get better and better. Likely ( I'm sure he has from not being able to eat well ) you two really have lost weight. I hope you are able to get out for awhile today --- and just as the quote says -- enjoy some idleness as you turn off the world for a bit -- turn off your worries for a bit, and even for a bit totally forget your pesky neighbors with so little regard for others.
It has been just butt-ugly awful here though I have to admit having the sun out -- or almost out makes you feel a bit better. The sun has a strong tendency to cheer me and help me accept things that otherwise have the power of lots of annoyance to me. So bring on the sun. So far, though the Water Co., advised by email alert to let out faucets drip which we chose not to do -- we don't seem to have much problem here. So far we are doing fine there. It will warm up to 18 today -- but go back down again. Maybe after the week-end it will get nicer here though I'm never too sure these last few yrs.
Otherwise all is well. The dogs are in my little office room with me and one of them is snoring. They go outside but sure don't stay long out there. Ditto for the indoor-outdoor small gr. of cats we have. No one wants to be out there long. Can't say I blame them. I don't stay out long either.
I hope you are all going to have some sun and that even if it is good and cold where you are it will cheer you up .
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Chevy, Glad your DH is getting better. That must have been really scary. And bless your heart for taking care of the animals. Leaving a Chihuahua out in 12 degree weather would get the owner a big ticket here. And possibly they wouldn't get the dog back.
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It is nasty down in “Sunny” So Fl today. Rain off and on all day, windy and cold, at least for us. Temp is going lower instead of rising all day. It is really not nice. It is nothing compared to those of you up north, but when your temp is mostly in the 80’s or higher, 55 is cold.
I know you northerners have it a lot worse than I do. My brother is supposed to come home tomorrow, but he is not sure the roads will be cleared. I thought he meant local roads but he said it is the main highway he’s worried about. So Carolina and Georgia are not prepared for any significant accmulation. I remember the day I had the mastectomy, my oldest daughter, my youngest son (and his then Girlfriend, now wife) came to the hospital with me.My other son was going to drive over when school let out that afternoon, normally a 3-31/2 hr drive. It took him the regular 3 hrs to get to the to the hospital exit and another 4 hrs to go from the highway to the hospital. The question of who was going to stay with me overnight became moot, because no one was leaving. I like to call it the 2 inch blizzard. Atlanta panicked and everyone headed home at the same time, on the same roads, driving in snow, most of them for the first time.
I think today is a totally different. When my brother and I were talking, I asked what he thought about my sister, who lives very close to Bonnets, and he said that it very well might be the worst storm she has ever been through- and she’s lived in NY her whole life. I heard on the news that there is a possibility of flurries in Tamps by Fri. The last time we has had flurries was in 1978. The school my two oldest attended rangthe fire drill bell- it was the easiest way they could think of to get all the students outside to see the snow.
Please all stay safe and warm.
Anne
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Annie, at the moment the forcast for our area is only 1-3 inches, though we may get a wind storm after and white out conditions. Of course if the storm moves closer to shore again this can change!
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PS- Chevy - good to hear from you and so sorry your husband had to go thru all that - and you, because husbands are not usually easy patients. These infections are really scary. I have a friend who just had a kidney transplant. The surgery went well, but the kidney was infected, and she’s now dealing with meningitis. She is on dialysis, and her son said they are draining excess liquid from her brain on a regular basis.
Anne
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Oh I'm sorry Anne! Yes, Anything can go bad, even when it is not expected. They first thought DH had Sepsis, or cellulitis... then something else, but my Orlando Daughter's neighbor who works in ER knew right away what he had, when I sent the picture! I had never heard of such a thing! Don't know WHY the ER Doc here in Denver didn't know what it was! Just knew it was a bad infection.........
No, Husbands are not easy to deal with.... but this time I just felt so BAD.... and helpless, seeing him go through so much pain! And all the pain pills, and antibiotics were really doing a number on him! He thought he was losing his mind.... just started crying one morning..... I just held him..... Funny, how things bring you so much closer to each other....
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Chevy, what an ordeal for you and your dh. Poor guy! Glad he's recovering. Your neighbors should NOT be pet owners. Hope they treat their children better than they do their animals.
I got out and did shopping at Sam's Club and at Winn-Dixie today. It was sunny and chilly.
We have been enjoying our fireplace during all this cold weather. Our gas bill will probably be a shocker. The furnace is natural gas. So are the cook stove and hot water heater.
Stay warm, everyone!
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All that we are is the result of what we have thought; it is founded upon our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If one speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows that person, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. If one speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows that person, like a shadow that never leaves. -Gautama Buddha
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Sun is up ( making me feel inspired ) and hope it gets out a lot stronger. Lots to do today, but it will be easy if I do it in sunshine. Warmer yesterday than the prediction which was 18 degrees. It got up to 25. Still cold, but a lot less bite in it. Just above zero overnight. Hoping I have a really productive day and I think I will. Been going through my closet and taking out things that have hung there for years unworn. Time for it to go. I hope I can be as fruitful as I've been so far. Actually, the first culling goes pretty easy -- it is the second and third times which cause all the hesitation.
Once the cold snap breaks a bit we will have to have our furnace guy out. Dh did some work under the house and says it is sorta warm under there ( maybe the reason we are having such good luck with out pipes this yr./cold snap) so we need to make sure all the things that should be sealed up are. Hmm, almost everything needs some sort of refinement I guess.
I hope you are all going to have a really fine day. Thinking of you Anne, Chevy and those we haven't heard a lot from lately, like Puffin and Joan.
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Sitting here in my warm house watching it snow. We aren't supposed to get the high total, that is further east! Plows just came thru. Hoping when the wind picks up that the power stays on, as it is still in the teens here! Hoping to start putting away some of the Christmas decorations since we will be staying home. Hate to put them up, but then hate to see them go, love the tree lights. One year, when we still cut our real trees, I left it up for quite a while as it was growing shoots, not drying out. Ended up with 4-6 inch shoots. Have some pictures somewhere. Oh well finally did what I never thought Id do and got a fake tree, now a table top. Call it my Snow Baby tree! Got lazy and didnt do my villages this year! Hope everyone stays dry and warm today!
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Sunny but still cold, in the 20's, according to the tv weather report. We're advised to keep the trickle of water going. Not looking forward to the drive to the gym wearing my exercise shorts! Looks like the weather will be warming up by the weekend.
Jackie, you're tickling my conscience. I need to do closet clean-up and get rid of that "good" stuff that just sits there year after year. Might be a good job for tomorrow.
Happy Thursday.
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Carole, Made a trip to SAL's with shoes and purses yesterday, this year I parted with a lot of things that will never fit again! Still need to get rid of a lot more. DH gave me some new luggage with spinner wheels for Christmas, cleaned out my other set, which is still in good shape. May see if the resale shop will take that.
Took some of the Christmas decorations down. I'll do that little by little, as I did the decorating.Still snowing here, probably have 2-3 inches, so far. DH says the snow blower isn't working, even if it's light , don't want to shovel if it gets very deep! He usually plows the drive with his old tractor/loader and I shovel.When The snow ends it is supposed to get quite windy. We shall see.
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I saw an ad on Facebook yesterday for a remote controlled snowplow. It's about the size of a small riding lawnmower and the video showed it moving some impressive amounts of snow. If you could sit inside and tell it to shovel the walks and drive, it would be worth whatever they cost. DS is in to remote controlled stuff and lives where there's snow. Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up with one.
We took down the tree and lights yesterday. I love the lights, especially at night. We should look into some of the mini strings and just use them on the mantel all winter.
Carole, It is possible to wear clothes over your exercise shorts. That's what I would do in those temperatures. Even a pair of sweat pants over the shorts would help a lot.
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Definitely older than dirt--scored 18. Only one I don't remember contemporaneously is the movie newsreels, though I've seen footage of them on TV. I've heard of Green Stamps, but our grocery stores gave out Plaid Stamps instead. But here are some other things I remember:
Cartoons before movies (even for adults), double features, Matrons with flashlights patrolling the aisles of theaters on Sat. afternoons, "shushing" talkers, ejecting litterbugs, and warning the older kids who "necked" during the movie. Being able to walk in on a movie at any point and staying through the next show until "this is where we came in" and leaving. The Good Humor (and his rival, Bungalow Bar) Man, who wore white uniforms and drove little trucks with mechanical bells (rather than a recorded repeating tune); to sell you your treats, they had to get out of the truck and open the freezer door in the back of the truck. Being limited to only "dixie cup" single-serving ice cream cups with wax-paper-wrapped little wooden spoons, until we were old enough to demonstrate we could eat ice cream bars and other utensil-free treats without dripping them on to our clothes.
Walnetto penny-vending machines on NYC subway platforms; dime-size subway tokens; wax lips; candy buttons on strips of paper; little ice cream cones with marshmallow as the "ice cream;" the fruit-and-vegetable peddler with a horse-drawn cart; charlotte russe vendors in summer and hot knish/pretzel/chestnut carts outside the schoolyards the rest of the year; coal deliveries to my apt. house; corner combination candy stores/soda fountains/newsstands (especially the stand-up-only ones outside the elevated subway entrance stairways--in NYC, all rapid-transit trains were called "subways" even if they were elevated, but in Chicago all rapid transit trains are "the L" even if elevated or at grade level).
Rough-wooden-plank-floored A&P stores, with an entire aisle dedicated to their own coffee beans and giant-sized DIY grinders. Malteds & milkshakes served in a glass, the excess served in the shaker in which the machine mixed them, with a large plain cookie called a "wine cracker" on the side; nickel candy bars, ten-and-twelve-cent fountain sodas (and 12-and-15-cent chocolate egg creams); 15-cent ice cream novelties or single-scoop cones; dime Popsicles; school supplies, pink rubber "Spaldeen" balls, yo-yos (and replacement strings), wooden tops and Fli-Back paddles sold at the candy store; corner toy stores (all named "(insert owner's name)'s Toyland"); Betsy-Wetsy and Patty Playpal dolls; late-night TV test patterns; freestanding cabinet tube radios. Having to watch "film strips" in class. Not just mimeos, but spirit duplicators (aka "Rexographs"). They printed out in blue wax on paper textured much like early fax machine paper (both loaded on rolls), and I can still smell the fluid. 78 rpm and monophonic records. "Toni" home perm kits. Metal curlers that fastened with elastics.
Before the advent of supermarkets: shopping at the baker, the deli, "appetizing store" (a separate deli for smoked fishes, cheeses & candies), butcher, fishmonger and greengrocer for perishables; grocery stores sold only canned & boxed foods--maybe he had a small freezer too. "Dairy" stores that sold milk and eggs in cartons (if the bakery didn't carry them)--they, luncheonette candy stores/soda fountains, ice cream parlors and bakeries were the only food stores allowed to be open on Sundays. (Milkmen didn't deliver in mostly-tenement neighborhoods). "Blue laws" mandating that all stores other than those mentioned above be closed on Sundays--and police cars parked outside Fortunoff's discount stores on Sundays, collecting their hourly "protection" money so the stores could remain open illegally.
Single-door fridges with teeny little freezer compartments barely big enough to hold a quart of ice cream and a single ice tray. Fishmongers with live-fish tanks. Live-poultry butchers--you picked out your chicken or turkey, and came back a couple hours later to pick it up: killed, plucked (but you always had to go over it at home to get the stubble), and wrapped.
"Raleigh" coupons (enclosed in several brands of cigarettes--my mom saved enough to buy the USS Missouri). Fake doctors in TV commercials urging "Reach for a Lucky instead of a sweet." Black-&-white TV sets in tall wooden cabinets wheeled into classrooms. TV repairmen who made house calls, carrying metal boxes full of vacuum tubes; doctors who made house calls and seemingly treated every cold or case of "the grippe" with a penicillin shot; clamp-on over-shoe roller skates (and graduating from beginners' to ball-bearing wheels); dentists who gave out pencils or assorted tchotchkes as a reward for enduring a visit; lever-operated voting machines; a demo tabletop lever-op. voting machine in the school gym the day before elections, for kids to use;
We've been having a heat wave: three days in a row with highs in the low teens (albeit one of those highs coming after midnight). We keep the cold tap trickling in the basement laundry sink whenever it gets down to single digits, and a warm water trickle from the master bath faucet whenever it gets below 5F. Yes, we do pay for our water (it's metered now), but it's still a helluva lot cheaper than dealing with a burst frozen pipe--even if insurance covers it. Last year we had a leaking toilet tank bolt which soaked the kitchen ceiling below. Though insurance picked up most of the repair cost, we paid a $2K deductible; it was a colossal PITA to live with during the project--took nearly a week for the remediation and the better part of 3 days for the restoration. Not going through that again if I can help it!
Chevy, so sorry about DH's dental infection--sounds really scary, especially for those of us at risk of ONJ from our bone treatments. Also about losing your nephew so young.
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ChiSandy, your story about the matrons at the movie theatres brought back a memory: when the Beatles' movie "Help" came out, a couple of friends and I actually sat through 3 showings. We just hunkered down in our seats to make ourselves invisible so they wouldn't kick us out.
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I remember visiting my great grandmother and having the ice man bring the huge ice square that kept the frig cold. If we were lucky, he would chip off a sliver for us to eat.
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Have any of you had chemo after knee replacements? Any problems
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Hi all,
I’m new here, and I’m following two other threads but I thought I’d ask all of you if anyone has had CMF chemo. I’m 65 and diagnosed in September 2017. I’m interested in knowing what experiences people have gone thru on this therapy. I will get 8 total treatments and I will have my 3 rd treatment 1/9/17. I was doing every three weeks but if my blood work looks good on Monday I’ll start every other week beginning the 9 th. Following chemo I’ll receive 16 radiation treatments. My oncotype score was 26. My oncologist said she was surprised my score was so high and she felt like my health status was very stable and the CMF therapy should be tolerated well. So far I have done well with the exception of constipation and reflux. And of course the shock of the whole thing and fears we all have about dreading each treatment and worry over the success of the whole thing. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. I am in upstate New York and we are in a deep freeze. Hope you all are warm and safe. Kate
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There is a magnet in your heart
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That magnet is unselfishness,
thinking of others first;
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Hi, Kate. I don't have any feedback for you since I was lucky (I think!) not to have chemo thanks to a low oncotype number. Good luck to you and feel free to join our thread.
We didn't run a trickle of water last night and it's supposed to get into the 50's today. DH may play golf. I'm about to go to the gym and later will follow my usual Saturday schedule and go to the nursing home and wheel my mother to bingo.
She has been on hospice since March but the company is discharging her from hospice. She has not been declining but instead has improved. I think the hospice nurse, Janet, gets a lot of credit. She has been supervising my mother's meds and taking her off meds with the approval of the hospice doctor. My mother is pleased except for losing her hospice CNA who gave her a bed bath three times a week. Now my mother will have to go to the shower and be transferred by a lift to the shower chair. She had her 95th birthday in December and is clear-minded for her age. She can no longer transfer without the lift.
I am watching my diet closely and using the WW app. WW just changed its program as it does fairly often, for marketing reasons, I figure. The daily points for foods consumed is lower but there are more "free" foods. The psychology is nudging customers toward healthier food. I use a lot of WW recipes, which are usually quite good. Last night I made a WW German potato salad that was about as good as the old BH&G recipe I've used for years in holiday cooking. I'm trying to keep the menus varied for dh's sake as well as my own. He is eating whatever I prepare for myself for dinner. Other meals he's on his own.
I refer to WW as AA!
Happy Saturday to all.
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Beautiful sun out this a.m. It is zero outside so we need that sun. Makes me feel like if I don't put a lot of mental attention on it that I'm a bit warmer. It will go higher during the day, but not all that much I don't think.
Carole, so good to hear of your mom's progress. It is VERY true that some medications for older folk can have quite an effect on memory, ability and even temperament. Glad her hospice nurse was able to get her on either better meds, or in some cases less. I do recall my last patient getting meaner than a snake for awhile and it was due to one of her meds. It is a difficult balancing act for the older citizens as older bodies process meds differently and when you are 'old' enough sometimes I think it might be harder to tell if reactions are normal aging processes or actual 'reactions'.
Good for you too on the WW. The Nutrition Class I've taken ( and just re-done for any new info that may have come out ) is one where the instructor is more into much more healthful eating rather than focusing on wt. loss. For most, I think the theory is that people have a set weight for their body and it will adjust pretty much given mainly the right foods. As well, of course, it depends somewhat on age. The older you are, the harder it can be to actually lose weight -- and even our coach Linda lost 10 more lbs. than is her 'normal'. She let that wt. come back because she said she just never felt comfortable or at her best.
That may be good news for a lot of people -- was for me. I also have known many overwt. people who were very healthy because they were very active despite the wt. That does not mean I wish to be too overwt. which I am right now after holidays, etc. but just to say that maybe trying hard to reach a certain point on the scale may set you up for frustrations you don't need to have.
Hope you all have a really good day and that despite any temps. you have some sun if they are cold ones.
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That's so good Carole! My SIL's Mom, was kicked out of Hospice after almost a year! She just kept getting better!!! But they put her in a nursing home, for some reason, and didn't get as good of care....
It's just hard to know, really, how to help them sometimes.... And it's better for them, if we don't try and take care of them ourselves, ..... It all depends on what is going wrong with them....
And yes Jackie.... some medications can really do a number on us! Between the antibiotics and pain pills my Husband was taking for that bad infection, his temperament changed so much! He will still get those "sinking" feelings once in awhile.... We are going back for a check-up and blood-work from our PC Thursday morning... I just hope he gets a clean bill of health, and nothing else was affected by that infection!
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Just so ya'll know.......
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Life rushes us along and few people are strong enough to stop on their own. Most often, something unforeseen stops us and it is only then we have the time to take a seat at life's kitchen table. To know our own story and tell it. To listen to other people's stories. To remember that the real world is made up of just such stories. Until we stop ourselves or, more often, have been stopped, we hope to put certain of life's events "behind us" and get on with our living. After we stop we see that certain of life's issues will be with us for as long as we live. We will pass through them again and again, each time with a new story, each time with a greater understanding, until they become indistinguishable from our blessings and our wisdom. It's the way life teaches us how to live.
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Cloudy today but a bit warmer ( 23 degrees ) than the mornings have been starting out. I have lots to do inside, but will go later to feed the feral cats. Got huge amts. of things done the other day ( and well into the night ) so we really are fairly good here -- but it is never the end. There are always those refinements to put into the mix -- like changing shelf paper etc. We have no snow on the ground and not sure we will get any. The cold snap ( could it break soon, that would be nice ) is plenty to handle for now.
Hope you are all staying safe, warm, and not too busy. If cold where you are, I hope you have sun to make it seem warmer.
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It was -3 when I got up, made it up to 11 now! Supposed to be 50 by Friday! Crazy, after 2 weeks of freezing. Think I'll put away the last of the Christmas decorations, hate to take the tree down. One of the good things about a fake tree!
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