Another scared new member of IDC
Hi all,
I'm brand new to this site. I'm 51 and I got diagnosed with DCIS/IDC a few weeks ago and am scheduled for a lumpectomy on January 10 with sentinel node biopsy and port placement. I went in for a routine yearly mammogram and got called back for a biopsy of a cluster of microcalcifications (about 1 cm) in my left breast. The mammogram does not show a lump, just the cluster microcalcs but yet I have IDC. The biopsy report shows it ER+ (weakly) PR- and HER++ with a high nuclear grade for the DCIS. The surgeon said the MO will recommend Chemo and Herceptin along with radiation. I am still waiting BRCAresults which may mean that I eventually need bilateral mastectomies, but that would push the surgery date back even if I have the results before the lumpectomy. I don't want to wait any longer to get started with treatment. It was already delayed a bit longer due to the holidays. Does it make sense to get the lumpectomy and do a mastectomy if needed after chemo?
This is such a shock. Three weeks ago I wouldn't have even understood what I just described. I’m so scared for the future.
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Welcome, Rockcity. I am very sorry about your diagnosis. A breast cancer diagnosis is always stunning, a very bad shock. We all know the fears that come with it. We understand about wanting it treated asap.
For a long time, the cancer will be much like an unwanted companion, always present (in your mind, and as if in your personal space), too close for comfort. In time you will be able to turn your thoughts more to the rest of your life, and the cancer character will retreat some to occupy your mind less.
Yes, that makes sense, to have your lumpectomy, then your Chemotherapy.
Please read and consider as to your port placement and the possibility of more surgery while your port is still installed__
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topics/858660?page=1#post_5051760
We are here for you.
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Hi icietla,
Thanks for your kind words. The BC is dominating almost all of my thoughts right now and is leaving me exhausted yet super stressed. I’m missing out on “life” right now which is ashame since I have not yet started treatment and feel fine. I checked the thread you referred me to and couldn’t find info on port placement with regards to surgery after a port is installed. Maybe it’s because it’s almost 1:00 and I’m bleary eyed
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You are welcome. Try to get some good rest now. I will be back to your thread here later.
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Sorry to see you here, so stressed, Rockcity. Consider securing a prescription for anxiolytics from your primary care doctor, to tide you over through this horrible period.
I personally would prefer to just wait and do the mastectomies in one sitting if my genetics were bad rather than two surgeries, it does not grow that fast and women often feel a sense of exigency when not needed medically. How long a wait for bilateral are we talking about? Are you in Canada?
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A lot of times they do the lumpectomy first so they can get started with chemo faster. If you were to have complications from the mastectomy it could delay the start of chemo. I did chemo first and felt lucky that I could actually feel my tumor shrinking and knew my chemo was working. Two months later did my bilateral mastectomies. One month after that did radiation after I was healed.
Sorry you have to join us here. Hugs as you make your plans for your treatments
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Rockcity, I am going to welcome you to a group where no one expected to be in. We are here to encourage you and offer you information as much as we possibly can. Having been recently diagnosed myself, this cancer is now my new best friend I love to dislike. I can't say help because it is going to help me grow, mature, enrich my life and strengthen me in ways I never imagined!!! I'm looking forward to a new outlook on life and growing deeper in my faith.
As for treatments, Everyone medical oncologist and breast surgeon will offer different plans depending on your cancers behavior. I personally want a bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction. They have found another mass in my right breast that has yet to be diagnosed and it has just appeared out of the blue. Wasn't present on my annual exam last May.
Keep us posted and good luck!!! I was diagnosed 12/11 and still don't have a treatment plan. Hopefully I'll know more Thursday, 1/11/18
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Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I’m hoping that the waiting is the hardest part mentally at least. The initial biopsy showed it to be fairly agressive so I am eager to get it out. When the final pathology and BRCA results are in I guess I will have a lot clearer treatment path to follow.
Savedbygrace1972- it’s definitely not a group I ever imagined being part of. Let me know how your appointment goes. Hugs and prayers
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Take a deep breath and once you get your surgery you will feel so relieved. I just had my lumpectomy and sentinel node at 4 others done last Friday. My pain has been a 0 I feel super great the pain was more like I had been socked in the boob.
I hope to get my pathology report in the next two days. We have to take this one step at a time and I can tell you waiting for the pathology reports is the worst part for me so far.
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Hi, it's a sucky club but we'll muddle through together.
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Hey there, Rockcity...Just wanted to give you a virtual hug.
Like you, my surgery options were also pending BRCA. My mom had BC, too (survivor!) and we have the same MO. I'm so happy mine came back negative because I really wasn't looking forward to a double mastectomy and ovary removal, too. Geesh. I've just had my second round of chemo and could tell that my lump has shrunk since the first treatment. For that, I'm grateful to have been able to feel it. If your treatment plan indicates lumpectomy, there certainly is no reason to not do it and proceed later as needed. In my case, it was chemo first regardless due to the HER2+++ -
Mjb1018- My doctor recommended a lumpectomy before my HER2 results came back positive. She still wants to do the lumpectomy first regardless. Then it’s chemo time. It sounds like we will have similar chemo drugs. It must be a morale booster to actually feel like the lump getting smaller with the chemo. Let me know how you are doing as you continue with your treatment So glad you are BRCA- that must be a relief in the midst of this madness
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Rockcity, I did it exactly the same way. I had two genetic tests. The first one came back negative for all the BRCAs and more common gene mutations, so we went ahead with lumpectomy. Then the second, bigger panel results came in and turns out I have TWO gene mutations which cause BC. By that time I had already had re-excision for margins and had my dastardly tumor change from ER+ PR+ to ER+ PR-, a more aggressive cancer. Weeks were clicking by and my MO was eager to get chemo started. She told me at my first meeting with her that my breasts had to go. So I finished up my chemo in Dec 2015 and had BMX in Feb 2016.
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Hi Rockcity. What follows here are the posts to which I referred in my post above.
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Sep 19, 2017 10:04PM Icietla wrote:
I understand you are to have Chemo -- or a trial of a couple of rounds of it -- before your Surgery. I think (?) you will be advised (or warned) not to have blood pressure readings done from your arm on the side of your body in which your Chemo port is installed. [Check on that.]
Is it contemplated that the Chemo port will be left in place for some extended period beyond the discontinuation of your Chemo treatments? [Check on that.]
If you have Surgery before all your (planned or expected) Chemo has been done, would your Chemo port be left in place, or would it be removed for the Surgery and later replaced?
Some of your lymph nodes will be taken from the side of the diseased breast in connection with your Surgery. The loss of your lymph nodes there will put you at increased lifelong risk for Lymphedema in and around that nearest arm. After that Surgery, it is advisable never to have that arm (or extremity) used for blood pressure cuffs, blood draws, nor injections.
So I am wondering if your Chemo port installation should and could be done in the same side as will have some lymph nodes removed (the diseased side)? Or would that interfere with your Surgery? [Check on that.]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sep 19, 2017 10:56PM Icietla wrote:
Here is an article with links to information about reducing your lymphedema risk__
http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/lymphedema/reduce_risk
It takes several weeks for these free lymphedema risk alert bands to arrive by mail __
http://lymphedema.com/alertband.htm -
mustlovepoo- my lumpectomy is next Wednesday. By the time I meet with my oncologist a week later I should have all of my genetic test results. I know I need to be prepared for a bilateral mastectomy down the road after chemo probably depending on those tests and final pathology. You had your mastectomies two months after you finished chemo. Did you feel that you had your health and energy return by the time you had surgery? Are you planning reconstruction
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Good evening icietla. I am having the lumpectomy on the left side next week with sentinel node biopsy and the surgeon is installing a port near the right collarbone at the same time to get me set up for chemo to follow. Because I am HER+ I will be needing chemo for a few months and herceptin infusions for a whole year. I asked the surgeons office if the port would be in the way if I end up needing bilateral mastectomies after chemo and she felt that surgery could be done with the port intact. I’m such a planner. This is so hard to navigate when plans can change every time a new test result comes in. I appreciate any words of wisdom and guidance you have.
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Oh my. Where to begin...I did pretty well all through chemo. I got septic after the first dose and ended up in the hospital for about 5-6 days (which I barely remember--I was so sick.) I had fevers 2 other times and ended up in the ER, but for the most part I did okay. I had my BMX about 6 weeks after chemo ended and my energy was great. I went into it full bore, no plans for reconstruction. I am woman, hear me roar!
Well, it all fell apart for me in the 7 days post-op. My PS did a one-step sorta recon that failed in numerous ways. I had massive necrosis on the right and a huge 6cm seroma on the right. It looked like a German Shepard had taken a bite out of my chest. I guess it's good that I didn't have traditional recon because I would have lost it all. Anyway, it was just a mess and I became terribly depressed. My DH recognized that something was really wrong and got me off to a doctor who diagnosed me with PTSD. She put me on Lexapro, which helped tremendously. But healing was slow. Very slow. I had to wear a wound vac for 7 weeks, followed by special dressings for another 9 weeks. The seroma had to be packed with medicated string for 15 weeks. I wasn't allowed to sleep on my side for months. I was bald.I couldn't sleep. It was a very difficult time for me.
One thing that truly shocked me was how much I would miss my breasts. I really thought I would be okay flat, but I'm not. I was unable to wear any breast forms or bras for about 8 months due to the healing issues and it really messed with my mind. When I finally was able to wear the forms I was totally surprised at how much better I felt about myself. I knew right then that reconstruction would have to be in my future. In fact, I had planned to do it last Feb, but my mother got really sick and I ended up taking care of her instead. So, for now the recon is on hold and I'm wearing my fake boobs (which look and feel amazingly natural--if you didn't know, you'd never guess!)
So that's my long sordid tale. I do NOT regret having BMX. As my MO said, my breasts were going to continue to cause trouble for the rest of my life. Better for them to go.
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mustlovepoo - wow. You went through so much just to get to where you are now. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad you are feeling much better about yourself. If you end up doing the recon, I pray it goes super smoothly for you
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Rockcity and all, everyone of us who undergoes treatment for breast cancer is at risk for lymphedema, and the risk extends throughout the remainder of our (long! cancer-free!) lives. That's the bad news. The good news is there are steps we can take to reduce our risk, but it's up to each of us to decide what we're willing to live with.
Ask any member of your care team to write you a referral to a well-qualified lymphedema therapist. S/he will be able to take baseline arm measurements for future reference, give you personalized risk reduction tips, teach you a simple (and pleasant!) self-massage for moving lymph fluid and, if advised, fit you for a compression sleeve and glove or gauntlet (fingerless glove) that you can wear when exercising, doing heavy work or traveling.
Blood pressure, IVs and injections on your at-risk arm have been noted to trigger lymphedema swelling, though our medical professionals are often unaware of the extent of that risk. You decide how you want to handle that risk moving forward. The odds are in your favor for avoiding lymphedema altogether, since less than half of us do, no matter how many arm sticks and blood pressures they allow, but it's our call what we want to risk. Using a wrist blood pressure cuff rather than an arm one seems to be less of a problem, or blood pressure can be done on your leg (though readings will be higher there). IVs and injections can be done in other spots (I have bilateral lymphedema in my arms and trunk and use foot or neck for IVs and hip or thigh for injections).
More lymphedema risk-reduction tips here:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_l...
Lymphedema is a nasty side effect, sure, but it's important to keep your focus on beating the breast cancer beast, whatever that takes. The Lymphedema discussion group here at BreastCancer.org is a great place to ask any questions you might have, as there's a great bunch of gals there ready to help and support.
I'm sharing your hopes for smooth sailing through all your treatments, and no "swell" surprises ever!
Gentle hugs,
Binney -
Binney4- thank yo7 so much for your advice and tips on lymphedema. I know it is something I will soon have to navigate through. As if there isn’t enough to worry about. I appreciate any help
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