Biopsies the week after Thanksgiving anyone?

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  • BreastIntentions
    BreastIntentions Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2017

    DangyT: Hi, copied fom my initial post:

    I have had a swollen lymph node (right subclavicular) for about three months. When it hadn't dissapeared after the first two months I went to the breast clinic and they referred me for a mammogram. The mammogram was clear except for the subclaviclar swollen lymph. The sonar however showed a second lymph under the arm, both measuring about 1.7cm x 0.9 cm. A third smaller lesion measuring 0.5 x 0.4cm was identified in the right upper outer quadrant.

    Anyway off to drop my son and then to the hospital for results....

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    pharmgirl, I am sorry you got worse results than you had hoped. But I am glad that your family is rallying around you and you have been able toshare information with them. We are here for you too, just cause you got a dx doesn’t mean you have to drop from this thread. Our hearts are with you I promise.

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    jdragr....any news yet?

    Bonne, I was thinking about you today and hope that your surgery went well!

    Breast intentions, let us know your results once you get them today and good ouck!

  • Pharmgirl69
    Pharmgirl69 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2017

    NS I hope all went well for you yesterday.

    Moo...welcome! We will be here in the waiting room for you as you wait and hoping for a B9 result.

    Bowser..you have such a great attitude! You and your wife make a great team. You're right the drain of test after test and appointment after appointment and the waiting for answers. I do feel better now that I have an official diagnosis and somewhat of a plan while we wait for the hormone stuff. I feel like so far the waiting for results really, honestly is the hardest part. My surgeon didn't biopsy for IBC yesterday. She is very cut and dry and when asked if it was IBC she said Yes, it is. So apparently she didn't have to biopsy. The good part is that I didn't have to wait for those results on top of this other waiting. We are here for you

    Dag....sorry you are having to wait again. What does your research say about Pagets? Is that a completely different course of treatment?

    jdrg....any news? I know you were waiting for yesterday

    Breastintentions.....good luck today as you get results....we are all thinking about you

    Sorry if I missed anyone. Thinking about you all and hoping for b9 results for those still waiting

  • NSwrites
    NSwrites Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2017

    pharmgirl69 - I am so sorry your dx isn't what you hoped for. I'm glad you have family support around you - I would imagine that's the most helpful thing in a time of uncertainty like this. We are here for you.

    I'm expecting results early next week from my exams (they were ordered stat), but am still stumped that they opted not to do any biopsy. I know they measured at least a dozen places on the ultrasound - perhaps they were all visibly simple cysts? I keep going back and forth in my head between "they found nothing and will have to do additional tests to locate the reason for my dark discharge" and "they saw obviously what the problem is and didn't need to biopsy to dx."

    One thing I did wonder... they couldn't find my old apocrine cysts from 3 years ago. Could they have ruptured? Could my dark discharge be old blood from that rupture? I cling to hope that something mild like this is the case! But am prepared that even if there's no clear problem on mammo, I may still need other tests like the duct test with the wire or whatever... *shudder* oh well, whatever must be done.

    I'm going to try to stop wracking my brain on this for now. Fingers crossed for b9 results for everyone else waiting!

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    morning everyone. For those who were waiting for results yesterday, check in when you can (even if just to complain if you’re still stuck waiting).

    NSwrites, since it is a Friday and you are understandably confused about what did (and didn’t) happen yesterday at your appointment, is there anyone at your dr’s office that you can call to ask questions? We all know that worrying and wondering over a weekend is so hard! Don’t be afraid to be proactive and pick up the phone and find someone to talk with you.

    I’ve got my office holiday party tonight, and I have to give the family welcome and year end recap speech....so hopefully pulling that together will be a good distraction for me today.

    For everyone else going into the weekend waiting on results (like me this time), stay strong and I’m sending us all good juju for b9 answers. if anyone has any good distraction plans for the weekend, share share

  • bowser
    bowser Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2017

    Dang it PharmGirl, that's exactly what you didn't want. But if there's no lymph node involvement that would be really encouraging right? If you have no lymph involvement that puts you as a very early diagnosis I would think. I'm sad for what you found, but relieved there's no node involvement. Are you in an area where you have a nurse navigator to help guide you through the process?

    My wife has lymph involvement and the surgeon thinks it's probably IBC, and speculates that we'll treat it like it's IBC, so I guess no need to test for it? We are at least stage 2, and I fear it'll get worse after the upcoming PET scan. I'm hoping her IBC symptoms improve with treatment. It KILLS me to see her uncomfortable like she is.

    A survivor friend told me that once we meet with the Oncologist with all of the tests in it gets easier. We learn staging, and all the details tuesday morning and I think we leave that meeting with a full plan in place. I do think it'll be easier in a way after that, even if we hear news we don't want to hear.

    We're still waiting for the HER-2, I'm told that might come today. I feel like I have lab-fatigue. My Wife is a teacher, so she can't have her phone with her in class, so every call comes to me for appointments and results. Now every time they call I just cringe because EVERY STINKING result we've gotten is the opposite of what we wanted and hoped for! I want it to stop, I want good news for freaking change. I bet you and many others here feel the same way.

    This is hard. I'm so sorry for everyone here for going through it.

    I started journaling. I typed three single spaced pages for day one alone. An author friend read it and told me to post it somewhere, I wish more spouses were here. That would be helpful. I told my wife we will read that journal exactly one year from now, and we'll realized how blessed we are.

    But I feel like I'm failing her because I'm on the edge of tears continually. She's all strong (not in denial, just better than me). I wish is WAS me. I think I could handle that better. I try to focus on the celebration we'll have someday, when we've beaten it. We've looked at funny T-shirts, and laugh about possible "upgrades" with reconstruction. But I'm letting fear get to me, and I know better.

    I saw a lady at lunch today with a bald head. I wanted to talk to her and encourage her, but I knew I'd just start bawling if I did. The fact that she's THERE, out eating lunch while getting treatment gives me hope! That will be us too I hope.

    I do think it gets better for both of us once we get our plan and start moving forward. Hang in there everyone. I've been assured by multiple survivors (some from 30 years ago when it was REALLY rough) that it DOES get better.

  • moo-moo23
    moo-moo23 Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2017

    Thank you for welcoming me. I am finished with the biopsy and results should get in early next week. Thankfully my husband and I have a busy weekend planned so that’ll hopefully take my mind off of it. The only thing the dr mentioned when doing the us biopsy is that the mass is hyper. I am thinking that’s a good sign as I’ve read that most bcs are hypo. Have any of you heard of bc being hyper though? I’m thinking of you all and hoping you all have a great weekend

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    Hi Bowser. Glad you're sticking with us here, as I've mentioned before i think your perspective is really valuable for us. But i do hear what you're saying about wishing to talk with other spouses too. Why don't you start your own thread for "calling all spouses / partners" and see if you can get a group going? Please don't leave us! But you can never have too much support and maybe a second thread would be valuable to you and a bunch of other partners who are worried about their loved one.

    Hang in there!

  • jdragr
    jdragr Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2017

    Hi guys! Sorry I didn't check in last night. By the time I finally heard from my doctor's office I was exhausted and numb. The nurse called and said biopsy was b9 but dr wants to follow up on the 12th. I'm very excited about the b9 but not sure what we have to follow up on. Can anyone tell me?

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    hooray jdragr! B9 is so great to hear. I’m not sure what the follow up is about, but I can’t imagine that they would give you some definitive information like a b9 result on the phone if the answer was really something else. Let us know what happens next week...but for now, try to enjoy going into the weekend with some relief from getting your results. We’re really happy for you

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    hi moo moo, sorry I missed you before. Glad you’re past your biopsy and I hope that your weekend is busy with things to keep you distracted. I haven’t heard those terms of hypo or hyper....but I am sure that someone on these threads has, so ask around. Let us know what happens next week

  • BreastIntentions
    BreastIntentions Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2017

    Morning all,

    Jdragr: congratulations on your B9 results!

    Pharmgirl69 sorry you didn't get the results you were hoping for.

    Browser: sorry about your wifes results and thank you for sharing your perspective. Reading your posts has really given some insight into how my partner (Dave) may have been feeling as he to has been quite overwhelmed by this whole experience.

    Those still waiting hang in there.

    I am happy to report that I got B9 results yesterday which was a great birthday present for my partner. I am still a little confused seems like what they suspected to be a subclavian lymph is actually a fibroadenoma or a benign phyloides tumor. They will only know which when they remove it. The swollen lymph under my arm they don't seem to be concerned about, I still don't known what the smaller mass in the actual breast is which worries me. I did try to get answers but the doctor then got side tracked booking my surgery and we never did clear that up, hopefully it's just more of the same. I have surgery booked for the 14th of February still Scarry but very happy its B9.

    Thank you everybody for the support and good wishes. Will keep you updated on any further developments.

    Wishing the best for those still waiting!

  • Pharmgirl69
    Pharmgirl69 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2017

    Breastintentions, so glad to hear your b9 results!

    Bowser....you're insight is so important to us as we are all watching our partners and spouses go through the same thing you are. Trying to be strong and supportive while falling apart inside. My husband is the same. When we told our youngest daughter he had to walk out of the room. He has "moments" just like I do but he is trying not to have them in front of me. He has reached out to his BFF who lives 600 miles from us. They have been best friends for 20 years but talk infrequently. She has helped him since she is kind of "distant" but loves us both. I think its important for him to be able to have his support system as well, that might be a little different than mine. The odd thing is, I dont really want him to be strong for me. I want him to break down with me, I dont want him to always have to be the strong one. If that makes sense?

    Anyway, I'm spending the weekend baking christmas cookies and homemade bread and apple butter. Business as usual so i dont obsess. Sending warm thoughts, prayers, good vibes and most of all big ((((((hugs))))) to everyone in the waiting room.

  • Pharmgirl69
    Pharmgirl69 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2017

    checking in....how's everyone doing waiting? Staying away from Dr. Google? Spending time with family? Just thinking about you all

  • Missmariss
    Missmariss Member Posts: 8
    edited December 2017

    Hi, new here I read mostly , I am so sorry for you all's dx's. I just had my 6th breast biopsy on my left breast this past Tuesday December 5th I am still waiting on the results . I have ADH every 6 month appt ends up with a biopsy..I had a surgical biopsy and a lumpectomy last year and was put on Tamoxifen as a preventative, I feel like I a walking time bomb. I had the genetic testing done and both were negative. So as a result of that my breast is scarred mishapened and painful all the time.

  • NSwrites
    NSwrites Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2017

    Hi everyone - no answers here yet. Trying to avoid debating what kind of decisions I may have to make, since I have no idea if I really need to make any decisions at all yet! Also planning on what I might say if the Dr tells me she will not look further into my symptoms... sigh. It's madness, this waiting.

  • beachsidesunset
    beachsidesunset Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2017

    Hi everyone, just checking in for the weekend! I'm getting a little more nervous for Tuesday but my nurse navigator says that I can pop that Xanax as soon as my paperwork is signed. They said that since it has been since a "rocky road," I will be treated like a VIP patient, so that made me smile a little, I hope that it will be a little easier when I get there. I am ready to have this done and over with and get the results, hopefully they're back before Christmas!!!

    I hope everyone is doing as well as possible, getting through these days as well as possible, it seems like we're all waiting for something, whether it's like a couple of us that have biopsies coming up or waiting on results, or on surgeries, or even on starting treatments, we're all kind of waiting, I hope in the process we can find some peace, even for a few minutes. Much love to you all, hope you are having a great weekend!

  • Pharmgirl69
    Pharmgirl69 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2017

    Welcome to the waiting room MIss....this is the best waiting room you will find :). 6 biopsy! ughhhh you spend a lot of time in the waiting room. I'm so sorry. Prayers for B9 results.

    NS...try to enjoy the weekend. You are going to drive yourself crazy trying to make decisions with no information. i know that is easier said than done and you probably have to do SOMETHING while you wait. If your doc wont look into your symptoms, get a second opinion.

    Beachside.....sending all warm thoughts for Tuesday.. please make sure you check in and let us know how you made out.

    Happy weekend folks....the weekends seem to be the toughest. Maybe cause we know there are no doctors open on the weekends so we aren't anticipating any news. Maybe cause we have more time to think. At any rate, have a happy sunday

  • Sahicks
    Sahicks Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2017

    my lung ct can back great enlarged lymph nodes now normal there was a new very small 2 mm module but doc said it was probably there before and not seen he feels I don't need to do any more surveillance on lungs so that has relieved me so much still just waiting to do my biopsy on the 14 th this has been incredible long hard wait

    I am so happy for the b9 results and sorry for the positive results I am behind on posting and on a small phone hard to address everyone by name but read and follow the journeys every night and am with everyone of you in heart and thoughts and praye

  • DagnyT
    DagnyT Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2017

    hi everyone. Sorry to be absent this weekend. I’m having a much harder time this second go round with the waiting for results. I’m just feeling very scared and sad. I need to get these last results tomorrow so that I can get things on some sort of plan.

    For some of the ladies who are from outside the US, I know you have shared that there can be a lot of delay between various testing appointments and / or results and follow ups due to national health systems. I’m really feeling for you.....this extra waiting is taking its toll on me, and I am realizing how grateful I should be that it is still much shorter than many of you have to deal with.

    I’ll check back in again tomorrow and let you all know if my results come back.

    Stay strong.

  • bowser
    bowser Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2017

    DagnyT: I'm sorry you're having to wait so long. Give yourself permission to have a hard time waiting, but hopefully you can feel better about it soon.

    I know we will feel better once we've met with our oncologist tomorrow (PET Scan today) and then finally have a plan moving forward.

    I've let fear have too much space in my head lately, I hope we can all some success in that area.

    I like to believe that in years to come you and I and Pharmgirl and others here will all be looking back on what was a truly difficult time in our lives and that we'll do so with a peace in our hearts. I know it's possible, and I'm looking forward to it.

    I heard so many stories yesterday from survivors both current and from long ago. Some of them looked so bleak and dark, and yet they're doing great!

    Hang in there, you're in our thoughts and prayers, and most of us have LOTS of time in waiting rooms for thoughts and prayers. :)

  • NSwrites
    NSwrites Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2017

    Hi DagnyT - I am having a really hard time as well. I think because I know my symptoms indicate there is some problem, I'm struggling more than last time when my symptoms were "could be a problem or could be nothing." I've called the doctor and been promised a callback today. I have work to do but am on the verge of tears...

    bowser - every time I see your posts I am overwhelmed with gratitude that your wife has such a champion on her side.

  • NSwrites
    NSwrites Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2017

    The nurse called me back.

    My Mammo and u/s showed a birad score of 2 which is lower than the score I had 3 years ago! So the nurse was not enthusiastic about additional testing.

    However, because my dark nipple discharge is one duct, one breast, and spontaneous as well as expressable, I feel "letting it go" is absolutely not an option and that I need to advocate for additional testing. What do you all think? I don't know what this could be - it doesn't fit the description of non-worrying causes of breast discharge.

  • Missmariss
    Missmariss Member Posts: 8
    edited December 2017

    Hi all I am still waiting for my results, I had to go to urgent care yesterday because the dermabond they put on the cut that happened during my biopsy last week and the steri strips came off. I have a hole and I couldn't stop the bleeding, So they re steri strip and bandaged it up for me. I just hope my results come in soon so I can sleep again, It would be nice..

  • BreastIntentions
    BreastIntentions Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2017

    NSwrites; I agree don't stop till you happy that you have all the information possible. The whole experience is long and painful but peace of mind is worth it. I am still trying to figure out if I need another biopsy for the second mass that showed on my ultra sound.

    I hope everyone else is doing OK. Those still waiting four results, positive vibes coming you way.

  • moo-moo23
    moo-moo23 Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2017

    NSwrites... Peace of mind is priceless. That’s why I am so glad I asked if a biopsy would be a good idea and they agreed. We are our own best advocates and it’s not good for our health when we are anxious and unsure. So ask for whatever testing will give you that peace of mind.

    I am still waiting for my biopsy results. But I feel better knowing I did what felt right for me.

    I am wishing for everyone to receive good news this week!!! Thinking of you all on this feed :)

  • bowser
    bowser Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2017

    Today was D-Day for us, or at least it was supposed to be. We're at least stage 3, but the PET scan shows a spot on the liver that we need to biopsy. Either way we start chemo next week, but I'll be hanging out in the waiting room for yet a while longer.

    I THINK it's positive that her HER-2 is positive because it gives us more treatment options. However, we're told that HER-2 is more aggressive and we need a brain MRI to make sure it's not in the brain. So we have TWO tests and we need them to BOTH come out OK, or we go to stage four and move from what she called "curable" to "incurable" That's really hard to hear.

    It's treatable though, but the thought of her having to be on chemo forever is a bad one. We'll know in about 2 weeks, time to push back on the fear again....

    Someday I will be as strong as she is.

  • Pharmgirl69
    Pharmgirl69 Member Posts: 42
    edited December 2017

    Hey Bowser.....thanks for update. I'm sure you both are stressed out but at least it sounds like a plan is coming together. Remind me again, was your wife ER/PR - and HER2+? IBC? I'm getting confused I think. Is she having a port put in? Did they discuss exactly what the chemo treatment would be or are they waiting for the brain scan to come back? So many questions as I'm sure you do too. Chemo forever?

    Prayers for b9 on both of the tests you are now waiting for and prayers for smooth chemo. We will be here in the waiting room when you are ready. I go to Onc tomorrow and genetic counselor and will see what my next steps are.

  • bowser
    bowser Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2017

    Yes, she's ER/PR - and HER2+. IBC not suspected, but this appears ever bit as aggressive as IBC, if not more so.

    Basically if the spot on the liver is part of the cancer, the oncologist said the most likely option was chemo forever. If it's not, then we have a chance of actually being cancer free someday. They can mange it even if it's spread to the liver, but she'll be bound to chemo forever. We're also scanning the brain as a precaution just to be sure it's not there also.

    We will begin chemo even while waiting for the biopsy. It's some kind of herceptin mixed with Perjeta to start, then we move on to other mixes it seems. But it all depends on what happens with the liver. So while we were hoping to put an end to the speculation, we're waiting again. She said that if the liver is positive, we back off on the strength of chemo since we'll be basically be doing it forever.

    As bad as that might be, it's better than being untreatable so we'll look at the bright side. They also indicated that they've had good success with mitigating nausea symptoms with chemo.

    PharmGirl please let us know how your appointment goes tomorrow. Praying for good news for you!

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