Diagnosed DCIS 37 years old

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edited December 2017 in Just Diagnosed
Diagnosed DCIS 37 years old

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  • jmo1020
    jmo1020 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2017

    Hi,

    I was hoping to get some advice from this forum. I am 37 years old and recently diagnosed with DCIS in my left breast. The past two months have been a living nightmare. To date, I have had 7 biopsies (sterotactic, needle aspiration, and ultrasound guided). I had a lumpectomy on 10/31/17. Everyone I talk to says "be postive" "stay strong," but I can't describe how much this diagnosis has compromised my life. After meeting with the oncologist, they are recommending radiation. I am being told I have a high risk of it occurring again. My breast are extremely dense. They found two groups of calcifications to start with. My lumpectomy got post poned on 10/17 when they found another group. I had to have another biopsy. This all started because I was going to get a breast augmentation and needed a baseline mammo for that. Met with plastic surgeon Friday. He says I def can't do it because my chances of it returning are very high and because of the density of my breasts. If you were to look at my mammo there is a long list of different things going on in my left and right breast. I'm scared and the thought of radiation scares me even more. My surgeon at one point wasn't sure if I would need a mastectomy. He explained if I did, it would be nipple/skin sparring. Since the biopsy cam back benign for the third group, they went forward with the lumpectomy. But now I'm not sure If I even want to keep my breast. To hear that they are not healthy and so dense things can be 100% seen on an image. Is it crazy to consider a bilateral mastetcomy and then have reconstruction? Would insurance even cover it? Any input would help. Please, I can't take this anymore!

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited November 2017

    At least, at this time, your cancer is not invasive. That said, because you are at high risk of recurrence I would, if I were you, have a double mastectomy with reconstruction. Depending on where those calcifications were found, may not even spare the nipple but plastic surgery does a wonderful job. You are young and have years ahead of you. Radiation isn't a terrible ordeal either. I had a double mastectomy because, as you see, I ended up with cancer in the other breast and I said OFF to both of them. In Canada, it is all covered but I don't know what is and isn't with US medical system. Good lucky and try to focus right now that you have NO invasive cancer and if you are comfortable with a mastectomy with reconstruction, then go for it. I would. But that's me. (PS) I wanted a double mastectomy first time around but they said no....only 5% chance...well, that 5% chance was 100% for me and had I had it off, I wouldn't have had to deal with a grade 3 tumour. ((((HUGS))))

  • jmo1020
    jmo1020 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2017

    Thank you for your advice! It seems so easy for everyone not dealing with or never to give their feedback. But to hear it from someone who lived it means so much. I did some research today with my insurance and in order to have it done you would have to be under 45 and diagnosed if your electing to do it. I meet with my breast surgeon 11/20. I am going to try to get in sooner. This waiting is too much. I will keep you posted. If I go forward with it, I might sure I’ll have more questions

  • Georgia1
    Georgia1 Member Posts: 1,321
    edited November 2017

    So sorry you are going through this. Just to give you another perspective: I would ask a lot more questions before going to a double masectomy. For dense breasts, I'd start by asking for an MRI to see what's really going on. You could have a long list of things that sound scary but are really normal, non-cancerous issues once you start researching them. The Susan Komen site and lots of others have pages called "understanding your pathology report" or "understanding your mammography report" that can help you understand what your issues are. Except for the DCIS (which as bluepearl points out is at least non-invasive) everything could be fine. And radiation also sounds a lot scarier than it is - it's painless and you will be all done in 3 to 7 weeks.

    That said, everyone makes their own decision based on their own preferences, including peace of mind and cosmetic issues. A double masectomy + reconstruction, if recommended by your doctor, should be covered by insurance.

    Hang in there.

  • Sourisou
    Sourisou Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2017

    Hi jmo,

    I agree with Georgia that you could ask for an MRI, since you seem to have "busy", dense breasts. If you question yourself about lumpectomy/rads versus mastectomy, I really suggest you read this thread in the DCIS forum: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/68/topics... You'll find many pros and cons based on members experiences, and series of questions you can asks yourself to make a better decision.

    That is of course if you can chose between the two surgeries. I had no choice to have mastectomy since I already had rads to the chest in the past. I had skin-sparing (lost the nipple unfortunately) UMX, direct-to implant with alloderm and I'm very pleased so far - almost painless and good cosmetic result. My experience with radiation are the same as Georgia - absolutely painless. I did suffer multiple long-time side effects from it but I don't think they are as usual with breast cancer radiation treatment.

  • secondchancetoo
    secondchancetoo Member Posts: 50
    edited November 2017

    I agree with blue pearl. If it were me I would definitely go with the bilateral mastectomy. I had a similar scenario as she did where I was told I had a very low chance of any type of problem with my remaining breast. Well, cut to four and a half years later.....I was diagnosed with a new primary in my remaining breast that was almost triple negative, and a grade 3 tumor as well!

    You are young, you have many years to deal with the worry of reoccurring with very dense breasts. I would definitely do the bilateral.....wish I had made that choice initially, as my breast surgeon suggested it at the time saying " women do this bilateral....because they don't want to be back here". She was right.

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited November 2017

    I agree with Sourisou, if you are considering BMX, reading through the link that she provided will help you sort out your priorities. Some women believe that BMX means that they have 0% chance recurrence, which is just not true. Your risk is very small, but not 0%. Reading through that thread will help you clarify what is most important to you, and then you can decide with your team how to proceed based on your values, your personal risk profile and your risk tolerance. It is such a personal and difficult decision. Best of luck and big ((hugs))

  • MBPooch
    MBPooch Member Posts: 229
    edited November 2017

    So sorry Jmo! I'm in the same boat as you but some how knew I wanted the double MX immediately. I have DCIS in the left breast as well, right under the nipple that presented as Paget's Disease. I am having a BMX on November 30th. Unfortunately mine will not be nipple sparing but I'm surprisingly ok with it. The silver lining is I'll be able to go without a bra all the time! :) I had an augmentation almost 7 years ago so my plastic surgeon is hopeful he can do a direct implant day of, worse case scenario I'll have tissue expanders for a couple months. I was 45 when I was diagnosed last month but just turned 46 and my insurance is covering the procedure. Trust your instinct on what you think is best for you. I'm a highly anxious person and knew I would be questioning everything if I didn't just do this.

  • jmo1020
    jmo1020 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2017

    Thank you ladies for all your replies! The feedback and different perspectives have helped so much with my aniexty. MBPooch, ty so much! I thought maybe I was thinking crazy, but I’m really not. I am too a very anxious person and have suffered from depression. I don’t think until I have piece of mind will I be able to live a ful filling life. People have said to me you can’t let this take over. Unfortunately it has. I go to bed thinking about it and waking up worried. My surgeon is meeting with me sooner this Wednesday. I will keep you posted. Hang in there as well. Sending hugs and kisses from New Jersey

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited November 2017

    jmo, many women find that bc seems to consume their thoughts immediately after diagnosis and for some time after. It doesn't, however, stay that immediate forever. It does take time, and different amounts for different people; but in time you will learn NOT to think about bc every minute of every day. I do hope that you've read through the link that was provided and all of the comments on that thread, so that you have a better understanding of the associated risks and potential problems that could happen with the additional surgeries. Best of luck!

  • Jens31706
    Jens31706 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2017

    hello.....I am just wondering which surgeon you are seeing....I'm in NJ also. Just had a mammo/ultrasound the other day and it was read as a BI Rads 4. Suspicious lesion in left breast. I was able to get an appointment with Dr McManus.

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited December 2017

    https://bcaction.org/2015/12/11/sabcs-2015-comparing-lumpectomy-vs-mastectomy-survival-complications-and-cost/


    good and easy to understand article summarizing the risk and benefit of mastectomy or lumpectomy. Generally, most studies found women who did lumpectomy faired better.  Might be worth a read and discussion with your doctors.



  • jmo1020
    jmo1020 Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2017

    Hi Jens31706!

    All of my doctors are out of Hackensack Hospital. My breast surgeon is Dr. McCain. You can google his name or put in Cancer Surgery Associates. He is not only smart but compassionate as well. That’s what I love most about him. Where in NJ are you

  • Mommabear0316
    Mommabear0316 Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2017

    just do the bilateral mastectomy! I'm getting mine and my cancer seems to be just the nipple and areola. I say be aggressive! I don't want the risk of it coming back for me!
  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited December 2017

    bevin, thanks for including that link. Respectfully, "most studies found women who did lumpectomy faired better" is overstating what they found. "All three were observational studies that tell us about associations, but not if the association is due to cause and effect, chance, or confounding bias. Whether or not women who have lumpectomy plus radiation live longer than women who have a mastectomy, it is clear that a smaller surgery is not worse for women." (emphasis mine) and the article goes on to say: "There have been six randomized trials comparing breast conserving surgery and mastectomy, which found no survival advantage for either surgery option. In 1990, the NCI consensus panel came to the conclusion that breast-conserving surgery was the optimal treatment based on these trials." The main point, IMO, seems to be that the treatment community is in a quandary as to why BMX is on the rise when there seems to be no data to support it. I do hear many women on these boards, when they are in the "not diagnosed but worried" forum, stating they'll choose BMX if anything at all is found. I do wonder about the contribution factor of pink-washing.

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