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  • Meshell5324
    Meshell5324 Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2017

    Hi Behappy, the shopping/packing/recovery at the top of this topic has some great ideas that include drains and hair care. I used a hand held shower and seat (ours has a built in one but other people have used a shower chair or stool) until given the ok to just shower. Then I used a new shoelace to make a necklace for my remaining drain (stylish) and put it over my head. I also had direct to implant and was warned against checking the water temp. Make sure it’s not to hot. You really won’t feel the temp on your chest and you could burn your skin and wreak the implants. Good luck and speedy recovery.

    Kahnartist- I had one drain removed Thursday (day 6) the nurse talked and distracted me while cutting the stitches then told me to count to three. Slight pinch and it was out. I get the second one out Monday. I hope yours come out just as easily!


  • SoniaL
    SoniaL Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2017

    Hi everyone...hope you are all resting and recovering well. My BMX with tissues expanders was October 20th so I'm about 10 days out. I'm uncomfortable but no longer in bad pain and so much of my upper body feels tight and numb.

    Did anyone have trouble with their drain insertion site? Mine really started bugging me today and tonight I realized that the gauze on my left side had a small bit of yellow discharge and some of the skin around the tube is yellowish. Fortunately my follow-up is tomorrow so I can have it looked at, but I'm worried about infection there. I'm already taking Keflex antibiotic so hoping this is nothing too bad. Also hoping they will remove at least the two right-side drains tomorrow.

    Thanks everyone for sharing here, it is helpful to hear others' experiences...sending best wishes.

  • Pink24
    Pink24 Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2017

    hi all, I realise my surgery wasn’t as big but any tips re pain relief? I don’t know if I’m posting on the right thread etc either. Breast looks/feels swollen, also strange burning feeling and arm hurts too. Cant seem to shake off sickness and dizziness off either. I can’t ice as it’s too tender to place anything on it. I had all my ducts removed and 4 papillomas from my right breast two days ago. Awaiting results re b9 or dcis.

  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited November 2017

    Anj24,

    When was your surgery? Did you have a lumpectomy and SNB? That's what I had done on October 18th. My SNB incision swelled up quite a bit with fluid. The hospital told me my body would absorb it eventually, but it was so painful. They gave me a prescription for Naproxen, that just made me feel weird in the head. My BS drained some fluid off on Monday and I must say it was almost instant relief. Maybe this is what you need to have done too?

    The sickness/dizziness could be you coming off the anaesthesia if your surgery was recent?? I would call my BS just to be on the safe side. Do you have a fever? Could be infection....

    Hopefully all is ok.

    Cheryl

  • SDK8
    SDK8 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2017

    Thank you Meshell5324!, :) Thank you! I just received my pathology report last week. They found another tumor in the same breast that was not seen on Mammogram. It was in situ. They also found one sentinel node was positive. Good news is - its all out with the Double Mastectomy! I am so happy that I opted for that surgery especially being BRCA2+. My surgeon sent me for a PET Scan this week... I received the results yesterday and there were no signs of cancer!!! I am over the moon! I still have to do my 6-8 months of Chemo. I meet with Oncologist next week to discuss. I am 2 full weeks post op, and I am very sore in armpits still. Drains are around 50cc/day. Post masectomy camisoles are uncomfortable, using Nighttime Kotex pads along bottom - They work great!

    Does anyone know if they still would suggest that I get Radiation? I would rather I didn't because I will have a waiting period of 6 months after Radiation before my Plastic Surgeon will insert my reconstruction implants.

  • SDK8
    SDK8 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2017

    @soniaL, I was told by my surgeon that there might be leakage from the drains at the incision. The left one leaks a little, the nurse showed me how to place doubled up gauze under tube and a layer of gauze over the site. It keeps my drains out a bit from my body and seems to alleviate the leakage. Hope your appointment went well, sending good vibrations :)

  • SoniaL
    SoniaL Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2017

    SDK8, thank you! When the plastic surgeon saw my drains last week, he said a little oozing is normal and I did not have an infection. I've been taping the tubes to my body to help with pain, but I like your nurse's idea about the gauze underneath to help with the leakage...I'll try that when I re-cover in the morning. I did get two of the four drains out at my appointment last week, so I was doing a happy dance! I hope to get at least one more out next week. Hope you are doing well.

  • SoniaL
    SoniaL Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2017

    Oh, and SDK8...was going to mention, I also had just one sentinel node that was positive and my oncologist does recommend radiation for that (even though everything was removed with my mastectomy). So, I would think they would suggest radiation for you as well. I haven't met with the radiation oncologist yet. Hoping for maybe a smaller number of treatments since just one affected node? Not looking forward to it, but want to do everything possible to prevent recurrence.

  • ToniTaglia
    ToniTaglia Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2017

    Hi swg they did same to me. My doctor keep my skin and nipple and put silicone implant in moment.. (they did this because I'm very young) they study the margin and it was 2mm for intraductal and 1 cm for ductal so it was a good decision. But I was very scared because they could take it off

  • Jnnmn7
    Jnnmn7 Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2017

    how's everyone doing? I'll be 5 weeks post op on Thursday. Still working on getting my right arm back to normal. Still have tightness but a lot of the time I don't notice it. Fills are another issue, they are uncomfortable. I go for radiation mapping on the 21st. Nervous about this leg of the journey.

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    I‘ll be 4 weeks post op this Thursday. My cancer side is still sore and slightly swollen. The nipple doesn’t look high enough as I’m more “pointy” on this side, so I hope it flattens out some. Not getting much response from my PS, he just says I was beat up pretty bad on that side due to the tumor behind the nipple. I was lucky in that it was saved, but barely. No telling what radiation will do to it. I hope everything heals by January, (which would be the 12 week healing period), but it looks so very raw yet. I feel deformed. I should hear my Oncotype score this week - the waiting is driving me crazy. When the phone rings, my heart skips a beat!

  • neeliecor
    neeliecor Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2017

    Hello everyone. I have posted only a couple times. Forgive me for not being familiar or comfortable with using all the abbreviations. I hope to learn more as I read the forums.

    I'm struggling to integrate this cancer thing into my life. I'm 3 ½ weeks post-op. I had my left breast removed, and have decided to postpone reconstruction until I'm done with chemo and possibly radiation. I read that so many women are choosing to have the reconstruction done, or at least started at the same time as their mastectomies. I'll be 70 in a few weeks, and am wondering if age impacts one's decision to do the reconstruction immediately? My surgeon advocated for me to postpone and I was fine with that. Who knows...maybe I'll choose not to even do it when the time comes.

    I got my one and only drain out yesterday and feel so much better than I have been since surgery. I still have a fair amount of swelling, tightness and discomfort in and around my incision. I know healing will take some time. I sometimes just get so depressed and start feeling helpless. It passes, but I wonder how things will go when I start chemo and lose my hair.

    I'm not sure what my message is today. I guess I just felt like "checking in" and spilling a few thoughts.

    Wishing everyone lots of healing, mending, and positive things!

    Eileen in AZ

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    Well, Eileen, I will most likely be going through chemo too. My Oncotype score came back today at 27. I did not expect it to be that high with all the low clinical risks on my pathology reports. Not sure now if I'll have the MammaPrint test done with it this high. I have a heart disease on top of this that really makes me feel uneasy. Had a bypass 3 years ago that wasn't expected too. Imagine what chemo drugs might do to me. I will know more this Thursday after I talk to my oncologist, but I just can't believe it. I think breast cancer has gotten worse over the years. Nothing we eat, breathe or do prevents it. Because of my heart disease, I have been eating much better - now this? No one in my family ever had BC or any other cancer for that matter. It's so frustrating. I'm not overweight, no high blood pressure, never smoked, breast fed my baby, never drank much alcohol, and always thought I ate well - but not perfectly. Was always active too. (my heart disease is mostly hereditary as it runs in the family). I'm 68, but had a lumpectomy with a breast reduction. Still sore, and still healing. My cancer side has a long ways to heal. I don't think my body can put up with the chemo treatments. If I refuse chemo, then with my luck, it will reoccur. They should just stick to the MammaPrint test instead of this intermediate stage the Oncotype DX test - makes one wonder what to do.

    Has anyone reacted to the anesthesia after surgery? I was fine for first two days, then for five days on, had a horrible time waking up in the mornings with grogginess and this feeling I had to force myself to breathe. Can't explain the unstable feeling I had, but it wasn't pleasant. It wasn't anxiety, but just a weak, groggy feeling that made me feel I couldn't breathe very well. Yet, didn't labor my breathing. So, was just wondering.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2017

    hello everyone!

    I hope you are all feeling better each day. My bmx was 10/19. I saw my ps today and had my last two drains removed. I don’t know what heaven is like, but I imagine it feels like life without drains.

    I then went to meet the oncologist. She is not recommending chemo or radiation since my cancer was so small. I am so so grateful and am going to chat more with her about tamoxifen. I am on some meds that do not mix with it so I need to address that first. I sort of love her and am reminded how important it is for me that I connect with my docs. MY ps and bs are amazing but all of this was so sudden I didn’t really connect.

    Anyway, she also referred me to physical therapy. My left arm (nodes removed) is super tight and sore and has a sort of rubber band thing happening. Itbis weird and annoying.

    I also drove today. First time since the surg. It was not impossible but not pleasant either. I may take a little more time off from it.

    I hope you are all healing and feeling better. This place has been a huge support for me and I thank you all

  • neeliecor
    neeliecor Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2017

    Blair2 - I had some post-surgery issues as well. I had a hard time with my digestive system, and experienced a fair amount of queasiness and an unsettled feeling. My intestinal track is sitll kind of a mess...hoping that will clear up soon. I still have no news on when I will start chemo. I was initially told I'd be doing A/C x 4, followed by Taxol for 12 weeks and then hormonal therapy for 10 years.. I was then told I should discuss possible radiation therapy which would be done once the chemo is finished. This all has me so confused and uncertain. I have yet to have an indepth discussion with the oncologist.

    I'm not familiar with Oncotype or MammaPrint...will look those up. I hope you are feeling better.

    I am wishing you well Blair2 as you continue with your treatments.

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    Thanks Neeliecor - I will know more tomorrow when I see oncologist as far as type of treatment for chemo. Maybe with my heart disease they will dismiss it, but probably not, and I’m not sure if I’ll go with it because I feel unstable. It will depend on my reoccurrence percentage with just radiation and hormone therapy alone. I think I’m too old for such a harsh treatment. If the percentage is low, I may refuse it because I most likely won’t be around 15 years from now. Chemo would probably cause other health problems for me before reoccurrence would.

  • SDK8
    SDK8 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2017

    I finally got my drains out on Nov. 10 (3 weeks with them in) My Plastic Surgeon has me tape gauze over the holes with a little alcohol wipe. I change the wipe out morning and night. It is drying up the holes nicely. I am 3.5 weeks post double mastectomy. Still taking antibiotics. My incisions are a little itchy, but looking good. My plastic surgeon said he will inflate me fully for radiation. I met with my chemo oncologist, and she is putting me on "AC followed by Paclitaxel or Taxall" The AC will be for 4 cycles x every 2 weeks and the taxol will be every week for 12 weeks. So, the end of March 2018, when my Chemo is over. She said I will lose my hair between the 2nd and 3rd session, just in time for Christmas. I already have my wig. I tried it out Saturday night when my husband took me to see Adam Sandler. We laughed so hard, and it felt good to get out. And my wig looked just like my own hair - but better. I bought it off Ace Wigs. Their prices are good. It is a monofilament with mesh front. So realistic. Its not real human hair though. I really like the Raquel Welch Wigs. I am going to get some biotene mouth spray as the chemo is suppose to make my mouth dry, and a friend told me it works great.

    neeliecor, I hope you are feeling better and are keeping your spirits up. I think you will know when the time comes whether reconstruction is right for you or not. My Surgeon told me that the prosthetic breasts can be heavy and hot, and Las Vegas is so hot, just like Arizona. They have a lady here who makes "Knitted Knockers" Ha ha! They are just like a baseball, but knitted, soft and light. She says they are perfect for this hot summer weather. Here is the official site she got the idea from. https://www.knittedknockers.org

    @Blair2, I am sorry that you are feeling unstable. Give it time, and the answers for your treatment will come to you. I am scared to do Chemotherapy as well. I spoke to a couple friends who had it and they are guiding me through it. I also looked up alternative medicine. Have you looked at any alternatives?

    "Then your light shall breakforth like the morning, your healing shall spring forth speedily, and your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard." Isaiah 58:8

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    What a sweet thing to say SDK8 - thank you. I’ve been chit chatting at other topics and see I haven’t updated here. I do need chemo after all - 4 rounds of taxotere & cytoxan every 3 weeks for 12 weeks total. Ugh. Quite nervous about it with my heart disease and old age.

    So sorry you had to suffer with those drains. I had a breast reduction lumpectomy. Wasn’t really my initial choice, but it’s ok. Drains came out by 4th day. That was long enough! Now I have a small seroma that won’t go away, but see ps this Thursday.

    I’m going to look at wigs tomorrow. Thanks for the site info

  • SDK8
    SDK8 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2017

    I found out today that I get a port installed under my skin, just under my left collar bone. They say it will protect my veins from all the chemo. I have a tube of numbing cream I am suppose to use an hour before... wonder how well that will work? Hmmmm... Anyone else getting a port installed?

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    I should be soon, but won’t know until Friday. Scheduled for next Tuesday - tentatively.

  • SoniaL
    SoniaL Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2017

    Hi everyone...it's been a big week for me, got the last drain out and my first fill yesterday and had my first PT session today. My left arm, where 20 lymph nodes were removed, is so tight so I'm hoping the PT is going to make a big difference. I'll meet my radiation oncologist tomorrow.

    Kahnartist...I agree, life without drains is heaven! My surgery was the day after yours, so I had the last drain for 3 1/2 weeks.

    SDK8...I had chemo before surgery, the same regimen that you will have. I was so nervous about the port, but it's been fine. The placement surgery was quick and easy and I did not have any significant pain afterwards. My chemo clinic used a numbing spray on the port site before they accessed it. I used it once, but thought it burned and so from then on, I chose to just have them access with no numbing. It was totally fine - barely hurt. Having the port in your body is weird, but it does protect your veins.

    Hope everyone is doing well.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2017

    hi SoniaL

    I am so glad to hear about your drain removal? How did your fill go? Did it hurt? I see my PS next week for a check. I am very swollen now that drains are out. I hope it is normal and I can get my first fill at that time. I also am in PT for my tight arm cording. It kills but I like that they are in touch with my PS and give me stretches that he is ok with. I hope everyone’s doing well

  • neeliecor
    neeliecor Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2017

    "neeliecor...I hope you are feeling better and are keeping your spirits up. I think you will know when the time comes whether reconstruction is right for you or not. My Surgeon told me that the prosthetic breasts can be heavy and hot, and Las Vegas is so hot, just like Arizona. They have a lady here who makes "Knitted Knockers" Ha ha! They are just like a baseball, but knitted, soft and light. She says they are perfect for this hot summer weather. Here is the official site she got the idea from..."

    SDK8 - thank you for your nice message! I'm doing okay, but am REALLY stressed about starting chemo this coming Monday. It's what I've been waiting to have happen so I can get busy knocking out this nasty disease, yet I'm so stressed about the side effects. I don't mind the idea of the infusions. I just hate the thought of having my body assaulted by these chemicals. But I will tough it out and do it. I am on the same chemo regimen as you: A/C given 4 times, once every 2 weeks, then followed by 12 weeks of Taxol. I will also be taking hornone therapy for a minimum of 5 years, maybe 10. At my age (70) I probably won't have to worry about that part.

    As for Knitted Knockers, I already have a couple ready to try out once my incision area is healed enough to have something pressed on it. I love the idea of the Knitted Knockers and made a donation to the cause.

    Also I had a port placed in my upper right chest area at the same time of the mastectomy (left). I had my first experience with it being used Monday when I went to the oncology clinic to have blood drawn. The numbing spray worked find and I didn't feel a thing when the nurse poked my skin. She told me the port was done beautifully, so I will let my surgeon know that when I see her next time. I'm sure your port will make a big difference in how you handle the infusions.

    Best wishes to you as continue through your treatments!

  • SoniaL
    SoniaL Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2017

    Hi Kahnartist, the fill did not hurt at all. She inserted the needle into the expander's port but i didn't feel it at all since I'm numb all across my chest (the one time I was glad to be numb, haha). She then slowly inserted 90cc of fluid on each side. I could feel my skin tightening but it wasn't painful. Since the fill, I've had some off and on pain in my sternum and at first I almost felt too tight to breathe, but that did not last long. I go back Friday for the next fill so we will see how I feel after that. Hope you get your fill next week! Each step is a step towards complete healing and getting life back to "normal". :)

  • adrachim
    adrachim Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2017

    I am a little over 4 weeks post op BMX and bilateral latissimus dorsi flaps.  I feel great.  I am shocked how quickly our bodies heal and bounce back.  Currently doing all my stretching exercise and I have full mobility!!!    I have seen oncologist and we are waiting for the results of my oncotype.  She said that based on my path I am in a grey area for needing chemo, so the oncotype should answer that question. If I need chemo I will also get radiation.   I go back at the end of this month for those results.  If score is low then I will start my anti-hormones and we are discussing a possible hysterectomy.


    I had the aero expanders that I fill at home with a remote.  They are really cool and I can not feel a thing.  I am so glad I do not have to drive an hour to see PS to have this done. 


    Hope all you ladies are doing well.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2017

    adrachim,

    I am so glad you are doing well! Your fills sound cool. You are sort of a robot! I go for mine Monday. I hope your tests come out well and you continue to heal

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    I had my ps check up yesterday, and it was exactly 5 weeks ago that I had surgery. My pointy boob side is still slightly swollen. All he said was that it was pretty beat up (from tumor removal) and so I have this feeling that it's going to be forever miss matched. He said the same thing at my last visit. You would think it would have been flatter from tissue removal, so I don't understand why it bows outward above nipple area at a point. No telling what radiation will do to it. At least it's not noticeable under clothes. It's also harder and sensitive there, but he said that was normal.

    On to the oncologist this morning- in prep for next weeks first chemo - ugh!

    Neeliecor - we are practically same age - will want to know how well you are doing with your chemo. You are probably healthier than me as I have had a dbl. bypass 3 years ago. I want to be brave like you

  • tbrunson923-survivor
    tbrunson923-survivor Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2017

    billateral mastectomy October 18th Nipple sparing mastectomy With expanders placement and Aladdeem placement.

    October 30-

  • Blair2
    Blair2 Member Posts: 495
    edited November 2017

    I did not update here. My chemo now starts Nov. 30. Was suppose to be tomorrow, but my appointment (that I mentioned in last post) was cancelled due to my doctor having an emergency. So I wait a while more.

    Neeliecor- any updates? How are you doing or feeling since the start of your chemo treatment?

    Tbrunson923 - welcome. Hope you are healing well.



  • neeliecor
    neeliecor Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2017

    Hello Blair2. I started my chemo today. It went okay, and I felt pretty good for a few hours. But now I'm dealing with nausea (already threw up once), and I have to wait another couple hours to take my next dose of Ondansetron. I called the pharmacy (clinic is closed) and asked if I could take OTC anti nausea meds along with the Rx. She said I could, but to be careful with combining stuff like Bonine with Rx Prochlorperazine. I'm pretty miserable tonight...hope tomorrow will be better. Have to go back to the clinic for a Nuelasta shot...ugh.

    Too bad about your delay. Wishing you well!

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